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Wef have loag since concluded that
there is no creature in our world that is
not of som use to man, either directly
or indirectly W c confess that our theo
fJewvceiTCH soivfc; .severe shocks when
rr-n.,i,v:. had -11. o inTEry-'6a singing
i I cur 'taw, a:: dipping iheir pestif-"u-..5
l-tlo bill into or' reins. Bat,
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hare been developed iu coiitciviov tteai
and even beautiful nets for our. beds, so
that wo can lie quietly upon our hair mat
tresses and hear those little pests per
forming their nightly serenades. ' We
night, and congratulate ourselves on the
highly ornamental appearance of our de
fensive arrangements, and we feci proud
that the ingenuity of man. can defy the
blood-thirsty nature of a musquito. -
Bats too thoso princes of impudent
knavery have tried to gnaw . through,
our.theory, just as they have gnawed
through our barrel of flour; but wo set
our wits to work, and devised a tin-covered
barrel, which protected t our flour,
"and at the sametime defended our theo
ry." Besides, what a vast amount of in
genious thinking much, of highly artis
tic and ideal has been done on the fruit
ful and suggestive theme of rat-traps.
There is an extremely active little crea
ture, whose name seems to be (for some
reason unknown to us) unmentionable in
polite circles, and whose habits of life are
such as to apjpartoconflict with our theo;
ryj but then this conflict is only apparent;
for we have seen persons who never exhib
ited any sort of industry or activity, ex
cept when they were engaged in catching
(or frying to catch) the agile creature
ary way in I Samuel xxiv: 14, vw
. Another creature of almost the same
size, with the last mentioned, and whose
name is equally contraband in ... refined
society, has given our theory some heavy
blows. But when we think of the thriv
ing trade which is carried on in horn and
ise tusagrLa naoiis or
in. -aforesaid ; and " especially
when we remember that the inopportune
presence of one of them, upon a lady's
bonnet, at J church, jgave "occasion to
Burns' fine impromptu, addressed to the
Aglyi creepin' blastit wonner." We
cannot help thinking that we have re
ceived more benefit, than injury, from
the existence of the animalculae, which
tiOUS. t ALi AUU.Ua V ill I llhlO. I
Our object in this paper is to defend a
certain class of people against whom a
vast deal of odium iheologicum is contin
ually poured forth from press and pulpit,
and whoso varied and valuable good
traits have been singularly ignored. We
uave neara uiem uenouncea time ana
again, and have seldom heard one word
spoken' in their defence, except by' tho
humble writer of this paper; The much
abused and long-suffering class, "whose
defence we have undertaken, consists of
the tlccpers in church If the reader will
have a little patience, we feel confident
of being able to present various advan
tages which accrue: from sleeping in
church.
In the first place t A man who goes ;to
sleep, will most probably not. interrupt
the preacher and congregation by get
ting up deliberately, in the midst of the
services, and walking out. "We have
often been annoyed by such ill-bred con
duct j but we never knew a single . in
stance of it on the part of one who was
asleep.
In the second place : A man never de
files the floor, or the carpet, of a church
with tobacco juice while he is asleep,
Spitting, at best, is not one of the fine
arts j and almost any thing is desirable
which, insures a man against so disgust-
inff an act as making a vile puddle of
tobacco juice on the floor of a church.
Thirdly i A sleeper never disturbs the
worshin bv whispering to the people
about him. - He commonly keeps still, and
this is a great point gained.
, Fourthly : A sleeper does not turn his
head to stare at the folks who come in
lateJ " The starers at church are great
nuisances. We never, knew anybody to
stare about him while asleep.
Fifthly: A sleeper is pretty certain not
to interrupt the preacher and congrega
tion, and may be alarm . the neighbor
hood, by crying out, shouting, clapping
the-hand3, and making strange, wild
: noises. We have known some very hon
est wide-aicake people do this; but we
never saw anybody do it while asleep.
Sixthly : Sleepers are not apt to make
ill-natured remarks about the sermon.
They are apt to be lenient critics. AI
most any preacher who does not disturb
their nap, is a " good, sound,
preacher."-
sale
"E"t all these good qualities are neg'
cut:," jrys t-3 elector. True, but they
are none the less valuable on, that ; ac-;
count. ' Besides, wo have yet to. present
tho positive side, and .wo feel that; it is
very importanL , Indeed, the chief use of
sleepers In cb.Txrch,'consists in their value
as termonometcrs. Wo are not sure that,
this woitl is ia the dictionary, but wo are .
by no means sure that It ought not to be.
Dictionaries are very bungling con triv
ancesafter.all, and Garriclc once said of
a-tnan.Uvat. ji.fUe fpllow was a .fool j , U;
w- ioiciag Ti'Uia diefU&atyjQT th mean
ing of a " word." 7 Wo can easilydefind"
and defend our .word, however, without
a dictionary. Analogy shall guide i us.
A thermometer measures heat A barom
eter measures the weight of the , atmos
phere. t A termonometcr) then, . would
measure a sermon. .
Now, we have some capital scrmonom-
eters in our church. Indeed, it would be
difficult to devise a better ? test of the
value of a sermon, as delivered' in our
church, than is furnished to our hand by
some of our sleepers. By the way, can
a church be safely trusted to stand with
out 8leepert t iThe carpenters say not.
At all events, we have sleepers j fn our
church, and they are useful. -; We; look
anxiously at Brother CPs. face before we
get half through the introduction of
the sermon. If Brother ia wide
awake, we feel much encouraged. If he
and Brother W. both stay awake during
the whole sermon, and show not the least
sign of sleepiness, (a very rare case in
deed,) we feel that we have done remark
ably wellor us. It Brother G. stands it
through the introduction, and holds out
pretty well during most of the sermon,
only nodding a little towards the middle,
we feel considerably encouraged, and say
to ourselves, "Sot so bad this time. -If
Brother G. and Brother W., both, get to
sleep before the exposition of the text is
entered upon, and wake up only when
we are on the closing, exhortation, we
feel considerably J discouraged. But
When both fix their heads upon their
hands, and their elbows upon the scrolls
of their pews, before we get well into the
introduction, ;andsink jnto theirregnlar
sleeping posture, and become utterly lost
to all around them, until we are about
concluding the final exhortation, and
then rouse up, rub their eyes, stretch
them very wide open, and assume the ap
pearance of men who were never asleep
in their lives, then we feel that we have
made a dead failure, and conclude that
we. must study a great deal more for next
Sunday. In short, our scrmonometcrs
are at zero.
2Sow, from hJng and regular practice,
we have learned to graduate these instru
ments with an accuracy which is abund
antly sufficient for all practical purposes.
Our two aermonemeters generally vary
from 100 degrees to zero j but we feel
pretty certain that we have seen them fall
some degrees below zero, when we have
felt that we should have done better had
we not preached at aH.' , ' -
After this attempt of ours, to defend
an ill-used, long-suffering f and valuable
class of our church-going population, we
trust that we shall -not : be obliged to
change our opinion as to' their effective
ness in their peculiar sphere.' It may be
admitted,' however," that we have one
sleeper in our church who is of not the
slightest value as a SCTmonometer, be
cause lie always goes to sleep ' before the
sermon begins. ' " '
But it is now Saturday : and we feel
that we are not so well prepared for the
pulpit as we might bej and as we have
no disposition to see our sermonomcters
run down to zero to-morrow morning,' we
must close this articlo with one of the
profound sayings of the son of Siraet
(Ecclesiasticus xlii : 24,) " All things are
double one against the other, ana toa
hath made nothing mperect.,'- -:-: i u. --t
Povertv in iteelf; is not a crime, but it
is often the cause of crime, and ; some
times its result, . "r
' . For the Beoorder.
, v WHAT'S THE MATTEBI
;" The progressive fonn'in the Active
voice has its corresponding progressive
form in the Passive voice." OlarVs Er
glUh Grammar.
Very well; let's try it : Corn is selling
Co iJiiinff has been selling- had been
selUng may . be selling would have
been selling, &e. Jsow lor ine massive
form t Corn is being sold was being sold.
win this do f .-' But well go farther.
r v,a hrina sold had been being
sold m&j be being sold--would have
htina sold. All wrong I wrong i
Is the rule wrong, then 1 What's the
matter t- "
ML Olive, IT. C, Oct. ICtA, 1873.
We should retain tho remembrance of
faults wo tavoenco fsriven.
PISTIXGUISUEDt BAPTIST MIXfSTEE s ?
WHO WERE BORN IN KOBin CAKOUNA SI
HVT UTED ANb'LABbSED IN .0T1IEU j
STATES. . , ,
' ,EliV W T. BSAJfTLY, P.'I.
After my last article on "Pr. " Brautly
was written, I encountered" two' letters,
one from Dr. Basil Manly, the othifrom
Eichard Fuller, addressed t6Dr.Wm."B'.
Sprague, author of "Annals of;.Ameri-
CanBapt'TulpiVhrcljk'tfiftoOf untisit I
al Interest, and I know will be read with
profit by the friends of 'tho'IlECoSDEr
Next week'I will give the" letter of ' Dr.
Fuller. '' ' ; " T.'H. P. ;
r From tho Ccr B Manly, I) DM
if msxDxsx or xaa 'cwrrasBmr o aubama. .
' TTiOTZBsrrr ct Aulbama, March Cth, 1843.
Bev. and Dear Sir: At length, amid
tho press of business, I snatch the brief
intervals of comparative leisure, for giv
ing some reminiscences of tho late Dr.
Brantly. I do it informally, , supposing
this to be more in accordance with what
you wish and expect from me.; ;
My first distinc knowledge of Dr.
Brantly was in my nearly boyhood, and
when he had justlcompleted . his College
course. It was in the meeting-house of
the old Fork Church, la Chatham Conn
ty,2J. C. He was then of very youthful
appearance, and attracted my attention
partly by this fact, and partly by his ex
ceedingly fine person and voice. Though
little qualified to judge, yet from the ef
fect of his discourse on myself and others,
rem embered long " afterward," I should
judge that he had not then laid aside the
starchness of the College, nor acquired
that ease pungency, and ' force, which
afterward distinguished him. ; For sev
eral years I saw him not f a gain ; until,
visiting his parents, with the first Mrs.
Brantly and their elder children, he came
to his native . county. .Then he shone
conspicuous; and made an impression on
multitudes of those who had known him
from his childhood, which will never be
forgotten. From that time my admira
tion of him grew, as my opportunities of
knowing him were extended ; and now,
after the lapse of many years, and some
acquaintance with men and things, I re
gard him as a character of singular ex
cellence, in so many points of light, that,
to give evon a sketch of him is a task of
no ordinary difficulty. ' Nature, - educa
tioo,and grace, had thrown togeUier, in
his composition, such liberal and varied
contributions, and my immediate inter
course with him was so brief, that it be
comes me to speak only of those traits
which were brought personally to my
VieW. :j ...
V Under an aspect and mien . unusually
commanding, he cherished a spirit 'of
kind condescension. When the poor and
wretched came in his way, he ever had a
heart to pity, and a hand to relieve. To
young men of modest merit he was, sin
gularly attached. Such seemed to have
a special attraction for him : his eye often
detected them in a crowd ; and he would
follow them, and seek them out ; nor did
he ever seem so interested or so happy as
when directing and assisting such to as
pire after usefulness and honor. ' Yet it
was equally remarkably that, if he dis
covered any Bymptom of shallow conceit
and self-sufficiency in any young person
about him it excited his especial dislike ;
and he pursued it with such "invincible
disgust, that he invariably either broke
it down or banished it from his presence.
He seemed to test his young friends early
in his intercourse with them, for this
quality ; and until repeated proofs of a
self-renouncing, v submissive, "ingenuous
spirit had been given him; hi3 criticisms
and reproofs had something awful and
almost crushing about them. . Superficial
or casual observers might have regarded
him severe and unrelenting.' He was so
to impudence, assumption,, and conceit
ed folly j but a gentle, inquisitive and
docile spirit disarmed him completely.
xowara nis Dreinren more aavaneea in
years; whatever were their' distinctions.
uo one could be more tree from censori-
ousness, jealousy, and envy; or, how
ever scanty i&eir endowments, none was
more free from airs of superiority or re
serve.? What was truly excellent in the
efforts of another, though it might seem
to overshadow liimsclf, he acknowledged
and admired witn c entire ; simpncity.
Walking with him from his - dwelling in
Philadelphia to his own. church,- to hear
Div Wn of Albany, who had then begun
to , attain celebrity, the ; fame of the
preacher was the subiect of remark be
tween us, as neither had heard hini.
Alter tne discourse, when wo had lett the
retiring crowd, he seized my arm with a
sudden and forcible grasp, and said, "I
will tell you, M it is no fable. The ap-,
pneauon ox me remarc was well under-,
stood. -
TSo one accustomed to be with him in
private, could have doubted the sinceri-?
iy anu vigor oi nis piety, xiis prayers,
both in the family and in pubho, were
ever remarkable for their simple fervour
and appropriateness, w They were always
plain, yet not commonplace : comprehen
sive, yet brief: apparently unstudied.
yet ; leading every i devout worshipper
through the circle of his own wants, in
entreaties so distinct, yet ; varied, as - if
each single case had been alone , under
his eye. Although his life was a con
stant scene c-f bustle and toil, this never
seemed to disincline or unfit him for' de-?
votion. The prayer-meetings - of hid
church he uniformily attended with alac-;
nty and delight ; and although he always
went oppressed with the recent wear and
vexation of the school room, with scarce-;
ly an interval to snatch a hasty repastj
certainly none lor retiromenc, yet, to
tho surprise of all, ho ever seemed to
come a3 if fresh from tho closet, and
from communion with his Savior, as
though his devotion had been mellowed
azd enriched amid hours epent by the
still waters of prayerful ,seclus(on. . Be
side 'the . Scriptures,- ho made ' freqnent
use of 'such works1 ; as Bishop - Hall's
Contemplations, i end Adam's Private j
(Thoughts.! t.-pCtlie latter .work ho once
made this remoxk' to mo Spmo inav?
doubt the propriety of a good man's dis-l
closing so much secret impurity remain-1
iug iu himself. But that writer, exposes i
to mo my own heart his experience is
fiiiuoj anilwhilold- not hate impurity;
anyone IcbSj becauso a good man' has '
groaned undet it, I confess that this fact
helps mo to take a aittie nrmer- iiold of
the hope that impure andfile as I; am,
I an not quite fcajken.ctSGod.'' , ,
What 1 shait cay of tne nualitics-of
his intellect must:. be especially meagre, ;
for the simple reason, that I a mind like '
his,, strikingly devated and even maj es-;
tiCj yet well balanced t presents so many I
potuis ior contempiauon, nuu cacn. so ex-1
tended, as to require rather a ' separate
treatise tor each than a hasty glance at
tho whole. That which struck me most,
however, was the readiness with which
ho could turn tho whole vigor of his
thoughts on any subject at -will, togethor
with his power of comprehension and
analysis. -Being often in his study when
he was preparing for tho pulpit, he has
seemed to me to make a sermon, com
plete, in a time not much longer than it
has required to write this paragraphs I
have then gone with him to church, and
heard him preach thoso sermons, the skel
etons of which I took klowu, and have
preserved to this tune ; and, on every re
view of them; they surprise me by thfc
justness of their distributions, and the
rich veins or well elaborated thought to
which they lead. .Jlmagery and illustra
tion he had very flptly at command. His
g&at master, in such matters, among un
p1?ed;men was Jeremy Taylor: whose
liistl fie considered equal to Homers.
FoEtho same purpose also he thoroughly
studied Milton, and the graver poets.
But, whatever was the haste of his com
position of a sermon, or tho suddenness
with which an illustration or argument
was suggested, his audience could not be
aware of it by any. seeming ' want of
familiarity or comprehension. On one
occasion, when preparing a sermon for
the afternoon, the bell struck, denoting
the hour ot service.. "Ah," said he,
liling, as he rose from his paper on
which he had hastily dashed off a dozen
lines in large misshapen letters, my
sermon is liko a half formed, insect- on
tho banks of the 2ile, part out, part in.?
I walked with him to the house of wor
ship, and never heard him more fully in
command of his subject, or of the minds
and feelings of his audience. The secret
of this was, ho elaborated ideas, not par
ticular sermons, d ragmencs. oi - ume
were all he had for study. These ho im
proved with singular industry and per
severance. His mind was over on the
stretch. Whatever were his theme at
the moment, he instantly brought his
wholo powers to bear on it, and dispatch
ed it soon. Thus it was not unusual for
him to be substantially prepared with "a
sermon before he had his text. His style
was very carefully modelled after the
classic authors; perhaps, for some years,
it had a little too Close resemblance to
the rotund and sonorous Latin.
He had a clear and accurate judgment.
and an abundant fund of common sense.
Thi3 was seen in the facility with which
ho would adapt himself to every person
or occasion and meet the demands ; of
every case. He could awe or attract, re
pulse or win, with, equal readiness and
self-possession, as he saw most lit. . He
had no freaks nor whims he was stead
ily nnder the influence of principles well
understood, so as to give a consistency
to his character, which lett no one in
doubt where to find him. .. He was .ever
like himself, both in his excitements and
reiaxauoiis, anu always uigmnea anu
, jj 3 f, : j : :j3 1 j
commanding, j The following incident
may illustrate several of the points at
which 1 have glanced. .. While residing
in Augusta, "between 1810 and 1820, he
was one of a Committee, sent by the
Georgia Association to another body of
the same kind, to labor, ' to restore com
mon views and feelings between the two
Associations on the subject of Missions,'
and perhaps other points of difference.''
On this errand, after explaining himself
with great patience and Mndness; to his
brethren, the Association took the mor
tifying and repulsive ground of refusing
to .receive Mm, and the other messengers
of the Georgia Association He submit- ;
ted to this discourtesy inf a quiet humor.
The public i feeling of tho congregation,!
however, required that he should preach
on the Sabbath. In presence of the
body that had rejected him, on the day
before ho rose and announced his text,'
J ob xxxvi : z, annex me a ntue, and I
wiu snow xnai j. nave- j et , to speaK ; on
Uoas behalf.?--.' ixom this starting point.
he poured forth the Divine message of
grace to guilty men,in a strain so grand,
subduing and attractive, that, though no
visible manifestation of. Deity was givenJ
and tne Aimignty , answered; not out or
the whirlwind, the stricken multitude
could scarcely have been ; more affected
and overwhelmed, had such really : been
the case. : By an action not uncommon
among the Southern Churches, while he
was yet speaking.4 he came ' down5 from
the platform, - and nearly the whole as
sembly rushed involuntarily to meet him,'
Down they fell upon their knees, many
at once asking . him to pray for them,
while the big tears in 1 profusion coursed
down his mainly face. Such 'was' the
sequel of prayer and love which followed
the rejection ot hi3 mission on the ; day
before, , . .
That period of his ministry in which
heard him oftenest, and knew him best
was tne last year or " nis residence in
Beaufort, S C, and shortly . after . tho
death of his incomparable wife. The
aged, judicious, and spiritual-minded
people who formed a rare cluster of in
telligenco and piety m that church, at
that time, used to speak to mo with great
emotion of the sanctified effect of this
affliction, of tho richness and savor
which it Lad imparted to the, ministry, o
thcnT.jL'aswr., : Uertain it is that,! .hot
then and since, I must regard him as th
most- unilbrmly engaging, instructiv
inspiring preacher that it has ever bee
my. good fortune to hear.1.;If:he did no
often electrify by.sometounding effort,'
ho neyer failed to'meet the' demands of
an occasion and never fell below : him-l
Belf. t'HiS sermons were-:not: all equally!
Interesting, of coursOk; but I dOi Oofe ire-j
mpmDcr that lever heard-, a remark fall1
from him, whiclCl considered common
place, tor foebhyor said merely' to fill out,
the time. The Volume of sermons, pub
lished near thft eloftA of Jhin reRidftnen in'
-Philadelphia, was written amid as heavy!
a press ot aflairs as ho cverw3ountered.i 1
l was in his house during - that : period,;
and he told mo that he had tasked him-j
self to write one sermon a week, of . that'
scries, besides his .other duties. These1
discourses are" certainly not .better than
the average of his ordinary ministrations..'
As a Pastor, he was exemplary - and
truly affectionate toward his people. ; If
asked what was most remarkable of Mm'
in that relation, I should say it was the
confidenco ho inspired." ' As a genera!
thhig, his people gave up their mind and
reelings to him, without suspicion, or re
serve, or uneasiness of any kind. When1
ho approved, it was common for them to
feel satisfied that all was right. : '
5 Wlifle-walking together to tho House
f (flyvrl . 4Ta 'ff-AtiffmnKlfA - MA4-YAwi. Tm ?-
i vuut vug loiawio uiuuiu vi i.
Bichard Fuller, of Baltimore, made , this!
remark to me evincive of her, character-i
istio sagacity: I" How pleasant It is to"
have a Pastor in vhom we can thorough-5
ly confide F She added : " 1 can ' go to
church under any : circumstances. and
carry any friend with me ; and whatever
turns up, I never feel any anxiety or un-!
easiness about whatMr. Brantly is going
to say ordo." ' V "
; i Buchv my dear Sir,- are a few Imperfect;
hints. of what Dr. Brantly was while I
knew him. . My admiration, affection, '
and gratitude' are ever due to his mem-!
ory. 1 ! ; very truly yours, wf: )
B. MAK1.Y.T ;
SUte of tho Church la ff Indsor Coalition
of Colored BaptlstsBemedy-hnnberUnd
University Whero is It f question for Agr'
ricoltorallsts Eucalyptus. ; . ,
1 WiNDSOa; X. O Oct 14,' 1873.
Dear Recorder : We are progressing
pleasantly at old Cashie, although sadly
disappointed that our good bvethrea re
fused to give us the next session of the
Convention. Elder Jeremiah Bunch still
serves us in spiritual things ; at our last
church meeting i ho stated that t he felt
duty1 to say; that he could serve the:
church no" longer.. . Tho church, he said,
,was abundantiy able to have a-pastor to.
go in and out before them every Lordt.
day, and i. the community - required a
jpreacher of ".sdperibf abilities and better i
mental, training,,, We are well pleased;
with Bro. Bunch, his modesty has en-'
deared ' him. still more 'to our hearts ;
members declared their unwillingness to
part from him, . His brief ministry has;
been a success, many valuable, members
hav been brought into the church, and
he leaves tho church In a delierhtful frame.:
IdnlCraiife; were added to
church, four by. baptism, and one by
letter ; j; all in the bloom of life.:' The
church will make an .effort to call a pas-!
tor to serve us all tho time. Elders Craig:
and Hufham were . suggested "as Elder;
Bunch's successor. .Our church edifice,
with its cross .on the ' steeple, (so obnox-i
ions to our good Bro. Egerton) is under
going thorough repair. We have a noble
band of young brethren, who love our
Zion, and are willing to sacrifice their all
to the blessed cause: f At bur1 last' meet-;
ing it was stated, by a committee, -that
$125 were needed and must be forthcom-;
ing.;' We had been pretty severely tested
on a money matter just previously and
there was a dead . pause, uo response to
the - appeal ot the ; committee; 4 membera
thought' they had done all they could.
A young brother arose and. made a fer-
vent appeal to the .cnurcn n oenait ox
the committee, - and some $40 or more
were subscribed or paid. . , The speaker
then addressed the committee and urged
them to go on, assuming the amount of
the deficit himself. Bro. Moderator,
he continued, " I joined the church four
years ago, and at that time I dedicated
myself,' my all to Jesus; when I sulv
scribed to the fundor endowing Wake
Forest College I gave all I could .sparel
I shall deny s myself necessary comforts
to aid this committee, and if that is not
Hufflcient I give myself I now redeem
my baptismal vow, in doing it I never
felt happier, in my life," Powerful sen?,
sation among the young and old church
bothed in tears. , There is hope among
such a people... ? - t . 1 5
. The condition of our colored members
is highly interesting. Something should
be done. Their ministry seem5 disposed
to do all in their power, they enforce dis
cipline, tbut they are illiterate and see
but dimly. Intemperance is their bane,
and whiskey doggeries derive their jgreat-
est revenues .from the poor negro; the
church seems to exert no controlling in
fluence on them. It has been suggested
that a temperance organization of some
kind would "prove of great benefit. - f
Your ncishbcr,the &r.'.r.s ia Edver
Rising" the - V Cumberland University;'
Where Is it located 1 Is itlntended fori
Columbian University f .
Will our good friend Rev. Dr.' Walteri
tell us what principle it is in the seebn
cutting of clover that produces sativatton
in horses. "Mercurials produce it in the
human, speciebuf clover 'does not con-j
tafa that", mineral, nor, wilt mercury prol
aware of. A friend of ours has a finei
pastfuVeof grass,5 but' horses f turned' on!
it to grazo are soon salivated as badlyaa
on second cutting of clover. - Why is itf
or what will prevent the salivation 1
The Eucalyptus tree, a" native of Aui-
tralia, is producing quite a sensation in-
the country ; we are trying to idttoduce
it into Bertie, t It , is a beautiful shade
tree, grows with astonishing, rapidity,1
a powerful absorber of moisture, planted
in swampsj they soon become dry and
arable land. I Its chief value, " however,
consists in its anti-malarial properties.,
Neither Agne and Fever nor Bilious
Fever can exist in its vicinity ; its leaves
are said to possess the antiperiodic qual
ities of quinine If so, the introduction
of the Eucalyptus will bring down the
price of quinine within the reach of the
poor man.' :'" " : r." ?
I Tho Helianthus (common sunflower) is
said to keep off ague and fever if planted
around out dwellings: Those of your
readers who have visited the -National
Observatory, near Washington City, are
aware that is near the low wet grounds
of a marsh, and consequently was at one
time the means of diffusing ague and
fever among those in charge of the Ob
servatory. . Professor Maury while' in
charge of the Observatory, suffered from
the malaria in his own person and Jin that
or others, lie procured seeds 01 the sun
flower, planted them freely; and never,
suffered from fall fevers afterwards.
Seeds of the sunflower yield abundantly
a delightful oil, superior to sweet oil and
is used by the Bussians as a substitato
for butter,
' - Yours in a better hope,
, , s. J.Whekjleb.
' P. S; Some of my neighbors have put
np stacks of crop grass for, hay, a better
article than that we, import from - the
North. Our old friend Dr, Phillips, ot
th$ Southern Farmer, and Professor in
the University of Mississippi, - calls it
Craurass. How is it, Dr. Walters 1
.. 1- . . w
" The following "article7 was published
not long since in the ' BeUgious Herald;
and, as we have been called upon (through
the columns of the Becobdeb) to furnish:
it for republication in this paper, and as
the subject is one of very great import-'
auce, as weu as ono upon wmcu we icei
the need of further light, ;we 4meerfully
.1.. ,i ii. it. : vrrJ- i. J
discuss the subject farther in a series of
articles in the Kecohder, and hope that
the discussion may 'be attended with,
some fruit in the way of desciplinary . re-f'
form. "' ' ' '-' H.
Looseness of Discipline. ( '
iaTHEKE ANY REMEDY 1
Some years ago, at a Baptist State
Convention, or at some similar gathering,!
I remember hearing one speaker (a city
pastor) say, - that he believed that one
fourth of the Baptist communicants in
the State were utterly worthless, or worse
than worthless as church members, and
ought to be excluded.; .Another speaker
followed. He was the pastor of theiarg-f
est ' and, perhaps, .the most influential
eitv church in the State : and he . Quoted
the estimate of the first speaker, and said
very , emphatically, He has put it too
low ; there are thirty-three and a third pet
cent Of ourmembersbip who are utterly
worthless, and who ought to be exclu
ded. The last5 speaker was one of the
mast genial,? kind-hearted, loving and
lovely men that I have ever known, and
one of the very last men in the denomin
ation to indulge in harsh judgments of
his brethren, or to take gloomy views ot
our condition. - That this estimate of the!
man is correct, will be admitted at once
by every Baptist who happens to have
the pleasure of a personal acquaintance
with Thomas H. Pritchard, the bishop of
Now, so far as I am advised, there ii
ho reason to believe that such looseness
of discipline is more extensively preva
lent among our Baptist brotherhood in
North Carolina, than among, the Baptist
churches mother sections of country
and yet what are we doing, or attempt
ing to do. in the way of improvement t
Who ever preaches a sermon on church
discipline , How many artides on it do
we ever, read in our religious papers!
Who has ever known of three churches
in the land nay, who has known of one
church from which wortJuess members.
or even covetous members, could generally
be excluded 1 lam glad to be able to
sav that I know of one church, which re
cently excluded one member for covet
ousncss, and another for "general worth
lessness f and I do - not hesitate to say
that I regard these two exclusions as un
usually promising signs of a i revival--
nay, further, that x ieei every connaence
that a revival spirit is already in exist
ence in any church that can rise up to
SUCU a View Vl IU rtaipuuaiuia ijf iuuiu;
volved in such action. " " . . - I
The ordinary, current view on the sub
ject of church discipline seems to be, that
the exclusion -of a member ought to take
placo only when the member has com
mitted some heinous offence against the
ordinary laws of morality, or against
viit wo 13 plQissa to caa u ciurti cr
der, or gospel order.?- It seems, , too,
to be commonly" believed that, even in
these cases, the offender should give evi
dence of being .incorrigible, before tho
church is justeiiod in resorting to exclu
sion. The idea that worthless members
should be excluded that utter tcortlless'
ness is one of the most heinous f ai f."
fences against , H gospel order seems
scarcely,; to have entered the heads of
even the pastors,' to say nothing of -the
average members of our churches -
I JSome. time ago, the pastor of one of our
city cnurches was visiting one of his flock
at her house. ? She had been a member of
the church for years: yet the pastor had
never seen her face, except when he visit
ed her ;at her own house, or met her on
the street, or at a neighbor's house. As
the ;pastoraslrring 'the house, she
said to him, u Bro. H., I am told that "
they have got me up, or are going to have
me up, before, the church. Can you tell
me what it is fori Idout know whv
they should have me" un: for J" haven't .
done anvthina.n " Well, madam." said .
the pastor, that is precisely the charge
against you ; you haven't done anything
and the church is disposed to maintain
the view which the New Testament cer
tainly teaches, namely, that a church
member must do something.9. The mem
ber continued to be; guiltless of u doing
anything," and was excluded.
jnow, to many persons, this will seem .
severe. Indeed, the action of the church
in this case was condemned by- some
good people in the community ; and yet
it will, perhaps, be difficult to give any
Bound reason tor such condemnation.
" Years ago I knew a Tiip.mTxvr nf 'a citv
church in Virginia, who would 5 not at-'
rend preaching : in. his own?, church ;
would do nothing and ; give nothing for.
the support of the gospel ; , said he did
not want to be in the church ; and in-"
sisted that he ought not to be. i One Sun
day afternoon, the pastor and one of the
deacons were going into the country to
attend a meeting, and they met this man
coming out of the woods with a gun ton -his
shoulder. He had spent the day in
the swamps with his gun.4 He was some
what notorious, I believe, as a frequenter
of grog-shops. It took a year's hard
work, on the part of the pastor, to get -this
man out of the church.'; -
Another member of the same church
flatly refusal to attend any of its services;
became' notorious as an opponent of
the church ; would have nothing to do
with it in any way whatever ; denounced
its members and its action ; said she did
not wish, to Ibe t member, and did not
consider herself one ; and yet the pastor
had probably eighteen months hard work
to get rid of her. . Still another member
of the same church, a woman old enough
to have grandchildren, insisted that she
did not wish to be considered a member ;
said she would attend dancing parties,
which promise she frequently i fulfilled,
dancing with distinguished agility for a
grandmother in Israel ; could not be pre
vailed upon to attend church with any
sort of regularity; and-yet the pastor,
after two years' hard work, found her
still on his roll, and left her name on the
roll, I believe, when he resigned tho pas
torate in 1868. - -
A deacon of another- church, in the
same city,- became dissatisfied with the
church for some cause JI-never learned
what), and one night offered a resolution
at church conference, and threatened the
church that unless this resolution passed
he would at once withdraw all his influ
ence and support from church and r pas
tor. The resolution was carried ! ' Does :
any sensible person believe that this
man retained any respect for the church
after this action, even supposing (a vio
lent supposition) that he had any before t
Now these cases do not stand alone.
Many others could bo given. - For in
stance, one of the best and - most vigor
ous churches that I ever knew, in spite
of the earnest and persistently repeated
remonstrances of the pastor, retained
on its roll the . name of a member who
was tot only utterly worthless, but a no
torious and incorrigible swindler. - Every
member who know: him, knew that he
would lie v and cheat. He had no con
science about the thing. He swindled
his brother members notoriously and in
famously.' He could not be trusted for
twenty-five cents, and his word was ut
terly unworthy of credit. When arraign
ed before the church, he would make
statements 'which were utterly untrue,
and which nobody believed ; and yet it
was only after twelve months' hard and
intensely disagreeable work that the pas
tor could manage to get him excluded.
The same pastor had to labor for some
months to get rid of a member who was a
notorious thief, an unconscionable ' liar,
and, I believe, terribly profane, though a
woman I
The cases here cited are not matters of
mere rumor. ? - The present writer hap
pens to have a personal acquaintance of
long standing with each of the churches
here referred to, and he is familiar with
the facts, as well as acquainted with the
persons that have here come under no
tice. He does not believe that his own
experience and observation in this direc
tion have been exceptional or peculiar ;
but he does believe, that nearly every
observant pastor, who has had ten years'
experience in the p.astorate especially
among city churches of any considerable
membership can relate some such in
stances as are here recorded.
- Now the simple fact that such cases
do, or can, exist at ally is certainly very
significant. There must be utterly a fault
among us, when it can be doubted wheth
er such cases are very few, or very extra
ordinary. To many persons, perhaps,
they wilt appear extravagant : but this
is not the fault of the writer. My design
is to call attention to what I honestly be
lieve to be a serious fault among our peo
ple. It argues nothing to say that the
Methodists are just as loose as wo are,
and the Episcopalians inoro so ; for tee
are not Zlci!odlsis nor rjL,isc:-allc:nSj and
we are not responsible for their - discip
line, while we are far our own -