THE ASHEVILLE CITIZEN THE WEATITER: ForeraM for North Carolina: Fair Tuesday utt Wednesday. DA V Your Subscription .rA I TODAY hi 1 K-VOL. XXXIV, NO. 348. ASHEVILLE, N. C, TUESDAY MORXINO, (K'TOHKK S, lifl. TRICE FIVE CENTS So "T ' CS S3 7 I 01 V REPLY TO THE PLEA MOT EXPECTED FOR HUMS DAY OR T WO 6 UNDETERRED BY MOTES OF PEACE, ALLIES SMASH F0EfS LINES ON WESTERN FRONT In Serbia and Albania the Serbs and Italians Are Fast Re claiming Enemy Occupied Territory, While the British in Palestine Press Hard on Heels of the Retreating Turks Americans and French Advance. The Answer CENTRAL POWERS CLAIM "DESIRE FOR JUST PEACE" (president Wilson Is Now Studying the Joint Peace Notes of Germsny and -AvstriaCotonel HouseArmes for Consultation With the Chief Executive A VON HINDENBURG QUITS. LONDON, Oct. 7. Field Marshal von Hindenburg has resigned as chief of the Ger man general staff, after a heated interview with the emperor, in which the field marshal de clared that a retreat on a large scale was im possible to avoid, according to. a Central News dispatch from Amsterdam today. The correspondent based his dispatch on re ports from the frontier. ANOTHER HUN QUITS -j- REJECTION P I1J i I HE AUSTRIAN PROPOSALS URGED Field Marshal von Hindenburg has been chief of staff of the German army since August 30, 1916. In the last six months there have been'various reports of a sensational nature centering about the field marshal. During June there were reports that the field marshal had died, and in July it was said that General von Ludendorff had been made chief of staff. These reports, however, were denied. SOLDIERS III FIELD T PEACE, BOT E PRESIDENT WILSON CONFERRING WITH THE ALLIES BEFORE MAKING REPLY TO PEACE PROPOSALS OF CENTRAL POWERS flYU.SJENATE Senators Claim Armistice Would Defeat All That America Has Fo"ght for MILITARY VICTORY , IS ONLY SOLUTION Absolute Surrender . and Dissolution of Army, De manded in Resolution WASHINGTON. Oot. 7.- Immediate " rejection of the German and Austrian prepooa-l for aw arjaiatje- and peo.ce senate today by leaders rolcing the common sentiment of the number. . ship. There was no dissent from the view that an armistice would defeat all ' thut America and the allies hav been fighting for, and every, speakor during two hours of a spirited session I devoted entirely to discussion of the ' enemy' latest move Joined In de i clarmg that only through military j vic'ory. could the causa of the allies land humanity be won. The sus , gestlon or sncn a step was scornfully BY AM UNDEFEATED HUN Practically Certain That America's Answer Will Convey to German Government ' tZ" ,n8ld,ou" mov the Fact That Nothing Less Than Terms Already Laid Down Can Be Ac ceptedReply May Not Be Known for Two or Three Days Officers and Men Germany Must Surren der Unconditionally "VICTORY FIRST; WASHINGTON, Oct. 7. President Wilson is conferring ;with the premiers of the en tente nations over the form of answer to be made to Ger many's latest peace proposals. Declare :no; be dispatched for a day or two While there may be some question as to the form of the reply, there is no question whatever as to its nature. It ay not use the short and ! forceful term "unconditional THEN PEACE" IS CRY,'s"rrender" which would reflect j the sentiment which has come I from the spokesmen of the na- Same Idea Prevails in All 1 on. but jt is sure to cnve t0 me uerman Kovernmenc ciear- cr (BY THE ASSOCIATED PRESS) Although peace talk is still in the air, there is no peace for the German and Austro-Hungarian rmies in the held. While attempts are being made in "well in formed circles" in Germany and Austria-Hungary to show that the latest peace proposals of the cen tral powers are honest expressions of a desire for a ... mar 1 r ' 19 just peace, Marshal roch s armies are proceed Ranks, of the Allied Armies in France ly the fact that nothing less than the terms already laid down can be accepted, and that those terms cannot be made merely "the basis for negotia tions." As to an armistice, such a 'step would be looked upon as suicidal and not to be thought of. By this time, Prince Maximil ian s note and mat oi tiaron Burian, the Austro-Hungarian foreign minister, in official form undoubtedly are in the . . i . ,i . l r i . D l utter aereat, men, say tnese men iviio ioreign Oluces in LiOnaon, raris ing without pause in their task or clearing tJelgium i hav been fiBiuing the K00d fight for and Rome, forwarded by Presi- tne nneny oi me worm, so mum me w;ior.r, ao Cotorl h,r fho better, hut. they declare, the granting " - vvy of an armistice at this time, unlsa central powers. the enemy Is almolirteJy ainrere, might Dnninooa nf T,TrTiiTirroa extremely doniperous. lul'v'BVB ui "-v'"""pv',J "Victory Mitt." first: then peace. WITH THE BRITISH ARMY IN BRANCH. Oct. 7, 6:35 p. m. (By The Associated rreas.) The soldiers of the allied armies want peace, l'Ut no peace except a completely victorious one. This was the opinion expressed by officers and men alike to The Associa ted Press correspondent today. If Germany is now willing to ddmit her and France of the invaders. And they are con tinuing to meet with great successes. Likewise, in Serbia and Albania, the Serbs and Italians are fast reclaiming enemy occupied territory, while at last reports the British general, Allenby, in Palestine, still was hard after the retreating Turks. ?t Franco-Americans Advance. li! While further good gains have been made by i-ihe British east of Arras, where the operations have ?-4n view the capture of the highly important town of Douai, and other advances have been recorded between Cambrai and St. Quentin, chief interest for the present centers in the fighting in Cham- prove "Victory 1 the manner in which French civil ians, who have returned to their sholl- j The exchanges now going on ThUjViQ n xurfni nnrnnttp 1 ICONTIN'L'KD ON FAGB THliKK.; PEOrtE CRY "PEACE!" . f AMSTERDAM. Oct. 7. (By The Associated Press.) Excited crowd in the strtetn of P.erlin yesteTday ex-iiing tore special. editions of -the tiewspaperts eon- talning; th speech of Prince Maxlmdllari, the mew chancellor, from the hands of the news deal- 4- era. ' 0 Everywhere stouts of "pece 4- item come!" "peace at 4a0t!" war beard. - Obviously the American gov ernment would not proceed to speak for the other belligerents on a matter of such importance without consultation among them, and, it is purposed to avoid the mistake of making a curt and peremptory rejection which could be used by the cen tral powers, before their own people, to bolster the argu ment that they are waging a "defensive" war and that the objects of the co-belligerc..ts aira to "aestroy tnera. ments of what the president has done it is highly probable that he had taken one of these two courses. Either he has asked Premiers Lloyd-George, Clemenceau and Orlando to advise him of their replies, or, more likely still, thi? president already has formu lated a reply and asked the pre miers for their acquiescence. The temper of the debate in the senate today and the gen eral tone of public opinion in the United States as expressed in the newspaper comment are a very fair index of the govern ment's views. The concensus of opinion in the senate debate was Lthat the offer should be reject ed; tne practically unanimous public opinion as reflected in newspapers all over the coun try was that no peace terms snort oi unconditional surren der could be discussed. For Historical Record. I Ha very c,ear that the reply will be not only an answer to Germany and her allies, but a statement for the historical record of the world. It is real ized on every hand tha't a re jection of a peace offer must bo a convincing one and one whicTti will juslify the prolonging of the war to the ends sought.- It is realized that it miifit be con vincing to the people of Gresit Britain, France, Italy and the United States, so that they may be warned against the insidious danger of throwing away the hard won victory so near their grasp, and at tne same time leave no opportunity for the militarist leaders of the central powers to lure their people on to more bloodshed and sacrifice. There is a suggestion that to carry out this purpose more fully, President Wilson, after dispatching the reply, may de cide to address congress and state in detail the reasons which Kpnabis-M Oppose Armutlo. Benstor Hitchcock of Nebraska, chairman of the! senate foreign rela tions committee; Republican Leader Lodge of Massachusetts, ranking minority member of the committee; Senators Poindexter of Washington, McCumber of North Dakota, Plttman of Nevada, Ashunrt and Smith of Arizona. Nelson of Minnesota and Reed of Missouri, were among the speakers, representing both political parties. The discussion, which was male to vaount galleries, closed as a precaution against the Spanish In fluenza epidemic, may be renewed next Thursday when the senate re convenes after a recess. Burrendt'r Ocmanded. After Senator Hitchcock and others ' had declured an armistice Impossible, i Senator McCumber Introduced a reso : lutlon proposing as the first requisite ' to any peace negotiations absolute surrender by Germany, Including dls ; solution Of her army and navy and j pledges for complete indemnifications. 1 The resolution was referred to the i forelKn relations committee. Although (list pointing out that OermHny'K offer contemplates no- (CONTINUED ON PAGE TWO.) OF ALSACE-LORRAINE AS indication that the president plans such a-course, but it is being discussed among many possibilities. House on the Job. Colonel E. M- House, the president's constant adviser, and personal representative on many a confidential errand, ar rived at the white house to night. His coming followed a busy day for the president in which all other business was put aside, recreation was aban doned and except for an hour or two given over to entertain ing Sir Eric Geddes,-first lord of the British admiralty- at' luncheon, Mr. Wilson spent the1 day in his study. It was said! Alii . . t m . , mat ne was writing, rne ot-i ficial communication from Ger-' many was delivered to the I white house this morning by the j charge of the Swiss legation, and the note from Austria was' taken to the state department i and handed to Secretary Lan- sing, by Mr. Ekengren, the min- -Kene ister from Sweden. The presi-j dent already had the unofficial j texts as transmitted by The As-1 sociated Press before him and ! the official copies added little or nothing to his information, j WASHINGTON, Oct 7. In I explaining the necessity for; carefully considered action at I paris, Oct. 7 Rene vivianV this time, Officials point OUt that ! President of the council wherthe war rhf rnnrlirinnH arkinw frnm thp broke out- antl head of. the French me Lonuiuoiis arising irom me ; mission to the iited stjt inr. presentation Of separate and viewed by Information, regarding the formal Communications from ' Pea.ce proposals of the central powgrs. . , , , . 1 said toctav: the tWO great central empires, -Germany has presented proposl.,4 are quite different from those' Mori. to president wiisom, but are thej under which Count Burian'e. raIly proportions for peace?' The unaer wmtn Jouni cunan s , diBCOurHe 0f Chancellor Maximilian adroit proposal to hold Secret appears to be mere-ly the program ot and "non-binding" conferences . 'he majority n ; is not question oi ., j ,. ... discussing the fourteen propositions Was SO summarily dealt With, j by President WtJeon. fr discus-j Now the proposition is for for-i'on of them as a twiate for an arm-to.,' Viviani Doubts the Sincerity of Berlin's Latest Peace Proposals SEES A TRAP tic would not bo In accord with tbt a manner to bind tne principals, j through (he splendid service t out , Whether the enemy accords au iiibi turn uycinu uh,uiviu '" military advaiitaee which w Mm with hostilities suspended initroP,'. s 11 Vue I tonosnv to Alsace-Lorraine la no lona . . . mi e the meantime, inereiore wiei fact fa rwno-nifid that the Deo-ler a Question, for we demand the re- cause the alllea to reject 'thelple of America and of the .iLil P7lZ jnPD 4 1j&CkXIlZ Official WUlOUnCd- proposalt .TkeiG ll HO Official L-iMvivusx w .uir-a rwasasu" cttetndwn."