THE ASHEVILLE CITIZEN, MONDAY, JANUARY 5, 1920.
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are trying to devise means to keep Oose Perlry
and Crockett locomotives, built for mountain
cllmblnf, busy every day throughout summer car
rylne passengers to within half mil ef the peak.
Business men who have examined the proposition
say" that It will pay good dividends In money be
sides assuring Western North Carolina of an at
traction which perhaps does more than any other
to advertise this region. Wednesday Is the day net
for a trip of inspection over thrt road and Ashe
vllle expects to be well represented on the excur
low.
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Monday, January 5, 1920.
The Right of Free Speech.
Bayonets, rifles, pistols and knives are not the
Weapons' of peaoeful agitation which seeks to
change or reform government. Such evidence of
intention captured in raids on radical headquarters
' In New York proves that those who ask. the right
ef free speech and assembly for . reds are mis
takenly encouraging a movement whose gofel Is
Bueslanisation of the United States. Only the
'Americanism of the majority of the steel and coal
strikers prevepted those Industrial upheavals from
becoming a general revolution to overthrow the
government, according to data gathered in last
. week's raids conducted by the department of Jus-
:: tlCO. ' ' ''
Senator Franca, of Maryland, a 'patriotic citizen
who is as far as possible from being a revolu
t Ion 1st, speaks for a considerable minority when
he" says that the government is multiplying radi
cal by prosecution. H quotes with approval Jef
ferson's statement: "If there be any among us
who wish to dissolve this union or change its re
publican form, let them stand undisturbed as
' monuments) ' of the safety with which error of
opinion may be tolerated where reason 1 left free
to combat It"
Senator France gives useful warning againat the
tyranny which a democracy may fall Into In fight
ing radicalism. There were last yoar several dem
onstration by citizens against enthusiasts who
were guilty of nothing more than unorthodox)'.
And some men have been arrested who were ad
. vocate only of peaoeful effort at nationalization.
But to compare, as a New York minister did, the
soviet ark bound for Russia with the Mayflower
bearing the Pilgrims is to drop all distinction be
tween liberty and bolshevlsm. The Pilgrims drew
up the first compact of Its kind for. democratic rule
of the majority. The passengers on the Buford
organised the "soviet, anarchistic commune of
America."
Doctrines no matter how wild or foolish must
be 'opposed by the Jeffersonlan and Mlltonlan
antidote of reason and truth. But this plotting
to shoot, burn and bomb the republic to pieces Is
a form of Vevolutlon which was unknown In
America of Jefferson's day. It must be put down
with all the force necessary, and the moat It can
ask from a free government Is prison or deporta
tlon.
Cherokr Ought to Prosper.
There must nnjplg be meetings political, aad
there will be many of them this year. Cut a
meeting called at Murphy thia morning is of more
Importance to the people of Cherokee county than
the name and politics of the next governor of
North Csrolina. Dan T. Gray, of the anlmaf hus
bandry division. North Carolina department of ag
riculture, will talk to Cherokee farmers on how
to produce meat In this country more cheaply
than It can bo done anywhere else In the United
States.
Cherokee is well endowed by nature as a crazing
country. To the trained farmer good pasture
lands mean not only plenty of cattle but hogs; for
the swine fattened largely on forage enables his
owner to overcome the excessive cost of total re
liance on grain feeding.
The valleys of Cherokee, protected from extreme
eold by the ranges of the Nantahala and other
lofty ranges, are not less well adapted to winter
pasture than Haywood county where the Spring-
dale farm experiments have mado winter grazing
ot cattle a demonstrated success. The Cherokee
farmers are showing the Interest In scientific farm
ing that the subject deserves. The county Is rich
in mines and in hardwood. I'nder such condi
tions it la not strange that Andrews has become
a manufacturing town wim targe Dame aeposits
and a fine high Sehool. Town and country appear
to be facing a great future in Cherokee.
Shipping Board Votes Dry.
The decision ot the United States . Shipping
board banning alcohol beverages from its passen
ger ships plying between North and South Ameri
can port is viewed with dismay by some ob
servers who looked forward to development of the
merchant marine. It Is argued by those who
hoped drinks would be available outside the three
mile limit that American ships will be unable to
compete with vessels whose victualing for voy
age includes liberal supplies of wine, beer and
stronger potations. But the prohibitionist sees in
this alleged dilemma another argument for world
wide prohibition and one that will appeal to those
who wish to engage In merchant narine service
to West India and South American countries.
The decision prepares the way for an Interesting
experiment One is reminaea 01 mo .propneeirs
unverified that used to bo made in local option
days that the drying up of certain resort cities
would turn the stream of travel definitely to ur
ban cases. It may well turn out that Americans,
schooled by necessity to endure thirst at home,
will not look with horror on a dry voyage. And
it Is also probable that the shipping board will not
attempt to prevent Americans or foreigners from
carrying a flask for medicinal purposes.
(New York Times)
As congrens would have to authority 10 change
honor awards to naval ofllcers the order of Secre
tary Daniels to reconvene the board of awards "to
reconsider the whole subject" Is the best course to
pursue in a controversy that should he nettled with
in the service, if possible. The board is to meet on
January 6. the day when congress reasrambles. Mr.
Daniels says that "no official approval of any list
has been made."
Such a letter as Admiral 81m wrote to the secre
tary is unusual In the service. Evidently It was
prompted by a sense ot duty and reflected the
opinion of other ofllcers of high rank. Admiral
Mayo, who commanded the Atlantic fleet, and Ad
miral Wilson, who commanded the American
squadron in French waters with headquarters at
Brest, have also complained in letters to Secretary
Daniels that their recommendations had not re
ceived proper consideration, and thl in spite of the
fact that it ia the business of the board alono to
make awards, subject, however, to the secretary's
approval. He can add other awards at his pleasure.
Tradition and discipline In the navy do not counten
ance resistance to tho decisions of arbiters and the
action of superiors. Therefore, when ofllcers resort
to protests and rlak court-martial, as In this case,
conditions must exist which they regard as Intolerable.
The admlralB properly eonflder Secretary Dan
iels the awarder of honors. The board is his medium
of information, and he leans upon it for advice;
but It is his decision that is authoritatve. The
board s not a creation of the statute law. An ap
peal may lie to the President as commander In
chief, but he might not care to overrule the secre
tary. If there Is an impression that Mr. Daniels
alone disapproved of recommendations by Admiral
81ms, It ia wrong. As a matter of fact. Admiral
Knight and his associates did not aaree with Ad
miral Sim as to thirteen out of his nineteen recom
mendations, all of which related to officers on his
start, to other attached to naval headquarters in
London, and. In one Instance, to naval operation at
Washington. But the admiral aid not rest hi case
upon hi personal recommendations; he took issue
with awards to officers "who were defeated in ac
tion, or whoso ships were sunk or seriously damag
ed" by the enemy. This protest seems to reflect
general service opinion. Captain Raymond D L.
Hasbrouck has declined in advance to accept an
award. Captain Harabrourk was In command of
an army transport which was sunk by the enemy,
and he makes It plain that he does not consider
himself entitled to the distinction. It would not
be surprising if other declinations followed, as the
spirit of the service is opposed to unearned honors.
It should be said in Justice to Secretary Daniel
that, while he may have made mistakes of Judg-
ment, which is yet to be shown, and while he may
not have given recommendations sufficient weight
In all cases, he has tried to act on the principle that
only tho reallv meritorious should receive distin
guished service medals and navy crosses. His
measure of merit is sea service, hazardous and com
bative, and ho has what neeum to be almost a pre
judice against recognizing shore duty efficiency.
There is much In the secretary's letter to Senator
Page that must meet with the approval of civilians
proud of the deeds of the navy In the war. Possibly
Secretary Daniels may bn sensible that he has been
himself too liberal, perhaps too good-natured, in
making, a wnrds for which he was solely responsible.
Ho his critics will say. But, nt any rate, he Is not
stubborn In opinion, and his inclination is for fair
play. The order to Admiral Knight to reconvene
the board of awards shows that he does not believe
that either he himself or the board is infallible.
He wants to have the right thing done.
Daily Reminder
"IN THE DAY'S NEWS.'
J. Hampton Moore, who today be
come Mayor of Philadelphia, was
mil! reeentlv the renresentatlve of
the Third Pennsylvania dlwtrlrt (In
congress. In days gone by Mr. Moore
has been nationally prominent in a
variety of capacities. Thus for a time
he was chief of the bureau of manu
facturers of the department of com
merce and labor. For two terms he
was president of the national republi
can league. More recently he has
been president of the Atlantic Deeper
Waterway association, and as such he
ha visited many of the cltle of the
United State in advocacy of the de
sired national legislation. Mr. Moore
has had Journalistic, legal and poli
tical experience. He first appeared in
tho fifty-ninth congress, and was four
times re-electod by the republicans
of hi district.
TODAY'S ANNIVERSARIES.
1796 Samuel Huntington, a Connecti
cut signer of the Declaration of
Independence, died at Norwich,
Conn. Born at Windham, Conn.,
July 3, 1731.
181-4 British ships Bacchante and
Saracen captured the fortress
of Cattaro after a cannonade of
ten days.
1838 Tho Canadian insurgent made
an unsuccessful attack on
Toronto.
1840 The Chlneso emperor Issued an
Interdict against Intercourse
with England forever.
1858 The English and French enter
ed Canton, China, after several
days' bombardment.
1891 Emma Abbott, one of the most
popular American opera singer
of her day. died. Born In Chi
cago, December 9, 1850.
1893 Japan refused an armistice in
the war with China.
1918 Premier Asquith Introduced
compulsory .service bill in the
house of commons.
ONE YEAR AfiO TODAY IN THE
HAH.
VOICE OF PEOPLE.
Six transports reached New Tork
with 7.000 troops.
Death of Count von Hertllng, form
er German imperial chancellor.
TODAVS BIRTHDAYS.
The
Intensive Use of Schools.
city commissioner and Superintendent
An Unknown Quantity.
Discoursing on Russia, Frank Slmonds, who is
temperamentally pessimistic, recalls Napoleon's
prophecy that Europe would be all republican or
all Cossack within a century. Simonds remarks
Weber are taking commendable action in opening
night schools for instruction In carpentry and auto
mechanic. With state and federal aid the cost
to the city will be negligible and the results should
mean much to many a youthful worker who find
tlmelf nearing manhood wlthot technical
knowledge or skill as a bread wlnn
School buildings are plantsso" valuable that
ery effort muat be msjlero operate them at their
cVeeWjLf0r--Hrrirhifout trained minds and cun
ning hands. Through the manual training and do
mestic science departments, through night schools
and community forums, youth as well as men And
women of the city may be given the knowledge
that will Increase their earning power and make
them better citizens.
The schoolhouae ot tho future will be a com
munity center a well as a training ground for1
boy and girl. With recreation and study varied
so as to avoid weariness to the flesh from much
study, the class rooma will be open twelve months
In the year. Those backward in academic work
will be classified for trade instruction. lp the
that Europe today la half bolshevik, which may be evenings mo.er ..... i.n.e, ... i.u.n iu un
regarded as worse thaj all Cossack or all Turk. CUM community question and give body to civic
Slmond draw a discouraging picture of theloP'nlon- Nlsht school, will enroll almost as many
tatua Russian a the' world sets Its face toward I" the d' shlft- Those -who have talents, time
another year. The antl-bolshevlk armies are de-d money for verlty careers will receive the
feJted. Lenlne seems .tronger than at any time jcareiui attention .nai is given mem uxiey. out me
ince he seized power. He 1 freed from the Oer-1 tl00l wl more "" meet the need" r
man power and the allies have washed their better deserve the name of public-
hand of responsibility for
Bimonds recalls the object
Ilisslan salvation. J education.
of world .revolution i
avowed by Lenlne and warns tho world that thia i u would seem that Jess Wlllard has had enough
MR. BrCKNERS LETTER.
The Key to State Development.
To the Editor of The Star:
The Editorial In your issue of the loth Instant has
Just come to my attention and strikes a responsive
:ord in tho hearts of the people of Western North
Carolina.
Good roads Is the key to a successful community
in education, fine buildings, Hgricuiture, churche
and in fact every line of endeavor. "Build Good
Roads and the People Will Come to Your Com
munity" is absolutely true, it has been proven in
Ashevllle, Buncombe county, and Western North
Carolina. It has been proven true in Wtlming
tbn and New Hanover. It ha been proven through
out California and the northwest, where there are
stretches of from 100 to 200 miles of concrete high
way. Only recently more than 11.000 automobiles
were counted passing a given point on a long
stretch of good road In the northwest, with more
than 28 states represented.
During August of this year the railroads handled
150,000 into Ashevllle and at least 60 per cent more
came in automobiles. There is a greater percentage
of Visitors every year coming to Ashevllle In auto
mobiles. In the early period of development of good roads
when macadam, now an obsolete type of road, w
considered the best road construction, a popular
pnrase used by good road enthusiasts was "town
ship and county lines have been eliminated by good
roads.' This has since been surpassed by "stale
lines have now Ions since been eliminated by good
roads." With the improvement in automobile con
struction, there Is hardly a county in the state but
mat ,iu or 40 minutes is all that ts required to
travel into the next county by automobile. Fifteen
years ago the business of America was conducted
by horse-drawn vehicles at from four to eight miles
an nour and now It is 20 to 40 miles an hour, due to
Improved methods of transportation or automobile
and good roads.
With paved ro.ids from Wilmington, the ship
yards and port of which North Carolina is justly
proud, the traffic between those two great cities of
tne state will be greater than th.it of enjoyed by the
Lincoln highway from east to west. The Dixie
highway passes through Buncombe .county for a
distance of 25 miles from the Madison county line
north the Henderson county line south. It is
paved all the way, with the exception of three miles
of heavy sand gravel, and real estate along the
entire stretch has increased 2u0 to 600 per cent and
the people are prosperous, progressive and content.
We congratulate Onslow county In securing the
investment or one ot our Ashevill citizens, K. M.
Weaver, former president of the board of, trade for
three years. He must have recognized wonderful
possibilities down there, hecausp greater possi
bilities, the writer believes, exist hero in "The Land
of the Sky" than anywhere else In all the wide, wide
world.
Rev. Olympla- Brown, reformer and
equal suffrage advocate, born at
Pralrlo Ronde, Mich., 85 year ago to
day. MaJ. Gen. Adelbert Cronkhlte, U. S.
A., who commanded the 18th division
in France, born In New Tork, 69
years ago today.
Isaac Bacharttch. representative in
congress of the Second New Jersey
district, born in Philadelphia, SO years
ago todas'.
William B. Wood, representative in
congress of the Tenth Indiana district
born at Oxford, Ind., 59 yoars ago today.
TODAY'S EVENTS
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French revolution to Europe. 'selling wood from his farm. The courl found that
The French revolution ended after Napoleon had Jess had given away several cords and that he had
diverted the French energy from sclf-dcatructlon offered wood to the Topcka commissioners at their
to- conquest, and after the Corsican was himself '0wn price. Let him saw wood in peace.
conquered. Will the bolshevists tlnd a leader who
can throw them successfully for even a while
against Western Europe, plunging the war weary
peoples into another catastrophe? it has become
a habit to think that Russia's strife is a local fire
Jjiat will sooner or later buirt Itself out before
reaching adjoining property. Bolshevism Is so
monstrous a form of government that it is hard
to believe that its devotees and conscripts would
flght foreign wars for its supremacy. But who
knows anything definite about Russia or what in
iesperatlon the Russians may do?
The United States Shipping board holds that pro
hibition follows the flag. Water, water everywhere
and nothing but water to drink.
will build naved
roads to connect the coast with the mountains. We
feci that Wilmington and Eastern North Carolina
have Just pride in l,-.c great mountain wealth of
'heir own slate. The ' l-inil .f ihe Sky" with nearly
all of the high mountain peaks of Eastern America
and the climax of altitude cast of the Rockies hi
Mt. Mitchell, whose topmost glory may be enjoyed
over the wonderful Mt. Mitchell railroad.
BOTH MISTAKEN.
The United States congress reas
sembles today after Its holiday recess.
Italy today will launch a campaign
(or subscriptions to its victory loan.
Decision In the so-called beer cases
is expected from the Supreme court
of the t'nited States today when it re
convenes after a two weeks' recess.
J. Hampton Moore, late representa
tive in congress, will be formally in
stalled ii office today as mayor of
Philadelphia.
Today has been fixed as the da'e
for beginning the trial of I. W. W.
members accused of murder growing
out of the Armistice day massacre at i
Centralla. Wash.
A special convention of the United
Mine Workers of America meets .at
Columbus today to approve or dis
approve the recent action of the
policies hoard in calling off the coal
strike.
Following his holiday visit In Lin-
coin, Neb., Ceneral Pershing Is sched
uled to resume his tour todsy with'
a visit of inspection to Camp Grant,
Rockfor.l. III. .
The Kansas legislature meets In
special spssion today to consider a
bill to provide for an Industrial court!
and various oilier measures calculated!
to lessen the differences between ca-;
pita! and labor. 1
Pursuant to a call issued by Chair-1
man A. T. Hert the committee on ar-i
ninKoments for the republican na-j
tlonal convention ne.M June is to hold,
its first meeting today In Chicago. j
Victor Berger, recently re-elected in i
Milwaukee to the house of represents-1
lives, despite the refusal of that body
to seat him. is scheduled to speak in
New York city tonight under the
auspices of the New York local of the
socialist party.
Secretary Daniels has ordered the
navy department's board of a,wards to
reconvene today to revise the recent
recommendations as to naval awards,
which have been a source of contro
versy between the secretary and cer
tain high officers in the navy.
TODAY'S t'ALENDR OF SPORTS.
Clemenccau, so far from having been ready for
i hluroform at 60, Is preparing for matrimony at 7S.
By Motor to Mt. Mitchell.
James W. Dillingham, of Dillingham in the Big
Ivy country' of north Buncombe, desires to Inter
est this end of the state in an automobile tine
through Ivy to Mount Mitchell. There is a fstrly
good motor road up Reems Creek valley to Dll
- llnghsra. From there it would be necessary to
build four miles of highway through some of the
finest forest in this section to a point on the Mount
Mitchell railway nine mile from the summit of
the peak. If the railroad should be abandoned,
which should not happen, Mr. Dillingham sees
the opportunity to transform the rail line into a
motor road, making an easy motory drive from
Ashevllle to Mount Mitchell through the Big Ivy
country. - . V-
This project Is wortbV remembering. But at
present the people of thia immediate neighborhood
A WAY TO FAME.
Fame is very easily acquired. All ou hae to
do is to be rn the right place at the right time and
do the right thing in the right way and then ad
ertise it widely. Kansas City Star.
WASTED TIME.
Wicks
fa rmer.
HlcliS-
few Haven Register.)
-Back to town again? I thought you were
You made the same mistake I did.
A Si:X DIFFERENCE.
"1 don't want lo criticise women. know they're
ail right. "
'Well?"
"But you'll neer see a iran buy ;t wire frame
for a hat." Louisville Courier-Journal.
Another useless expenditure of time is telling
me salesman now mueti jess you could have bought
the same article a few years ago. Washington
Star.
A STRANGER TO HIM.
Groom Who 1 that quiet little man in the
corner who .gazes at me so earnestly?
Bride That . Oh I'll Introduce him after
lunch! That's father London Answer.
A COMMON C'O.MPJUAINT.
Thysician Lo jou ever have any trouble with
your stomach?
Patient Yes, doctor, getting it comfortably
full Boston Transcript.
THE I'SIAI, WAY.
Raring.
Winter meeting of Cuba-American
Jockey club, at Havana.
Opening of 1,',-day meeting at Ascot
Park, lx.s Angeles.
Baseball.
Annual meeting of the national
commission, at Cincinnati.
Meeting of Virginia league, at New
port News.
Billiards.
Indiana three-cushion championship
tournament opens at Indianapolis.
Wrestling.
Wiillam Demctral vs. Jim Londas.
at New York.
Boxing.
.Jack Sharkey vs. Hatsey Wallace, 6
rounds, at Philadelphia. i
Matt Brock vs. Frankle Brown, 10
i nn nil., at Cleveland.
Kid Norfolk vs. Gorilla Jones. 13
rounds, at New Orleans.
Kid Regnn vs. Dutch Brandt, S
rounds, St. Louis.
Joe Leonard vs. Phil Logan, 12
rounds, at Westfield. Mass.
When a person favors compulsory military train
ing, it is usually the other fellow's training Buffalo
Courier.
WHERE HE FAILED.
WASHINGTON, Jan. 4 Regula
tion to check the creation of specula
tive land values and land tpvcjla
tion generally, have been placed In
effect by the federal farm loan board
in all farm loan banks, the board's
annual report, made public tonight,
reveals, farm loan banks have been
instructed "to lose without regret"
applications for loan which (to not
protect amply the banks and their
bond buyers.
In furtherance of tho policy to keep
down "unwarranted land values, the
banks have been ordered not to enter
I Into competition with private loaning
Our idea of a happy life would be to live beyondJ agencies where the latter have offered
our Income atyl not have anything happen. Ohio I larger loans than tha board's Vfpraui
State Journal. lers bellevs to be Justifies.
"I hear you were out late with Curlycue. the
famous inventor."
"Yep, I took him home with me too."
"Well?"
"But he couldn't invent an excuse that would
pass muster with my wife." Louisville Courier
Journal. V
PERFECT BLISS.
REGl'LATION TO CHECK
tsPEClXATION IX LAX D
The Time to Save
is now, while money is plentiful and wages
are high. At no time in the history of this
Nation has a finer opportunity been presented
to save money than the present. But extrava
gance must be guarded against. We need to
study our expenditures carefully, and to real
ize the fact that we can't spend our substance
and have it, too. We shall be well on the way
to becoming a thrifty people when we learn
that our savings not our pay checks are pur
profits, and that the process of accumulating
savings is substantially the same as getting
profits out of business.
New Interest Period in Our Savings Department
January 1st to 1 0th ' .
We pay 4 Per Cent Interest. Compounded Quarterly.
WACHOVIA BANK & TRUST CO
Capital and Surplus. $2,000,000.
Member Federal Reserve System.
DON'TRESOLVE
BUT-ACT
BEGIN AT ONCE
TO SAVE
TO BANK
TO HAVE
AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK
THE ONLY NATIONAL BANK IN ASHEVILLE
4 on Savings and Certificates of Deposit
Travelers' Cheques and Foreign Exchange Issued
JANUARY-FEBRUARY-MARCH
Three months in which your pipes
are likely to freeze any night. In
vest in a '
PERFECT OIL HEATER
and not only, save the plumber bill
and the inconvenience of frozen
pipes but enj6y the comfort they
give every morning. They are in
despensible in the bath room.
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