- I 1 "",r '"" I' '. . ' " ii . i i ' i i ' H ., . . .. . t7..w.-.n.',-.,.-rir SW.T.'ffT-w f lmlM iy 55 - " 11 - I. . I I I r I wmmm hi i i I l l I ' ' ' . hPTN NEW SERIES. GIIEENSBOROUGH, N. C, FRIDAY MORNING, JUNE 8, 1838. VOL. II NO 14. t t MR. WEBSTER'S 8 PERCH, IN ANSWER TO MR. CALHOUN, DELI vcred in the Senate, March 22, 183a ' On Thursday, the 22d of March', Mr. Cah hottn spoke at length iu answer to Mr. Webster's speech of March 12. When he had concluded, Mr. Webster immedi ately rose, and addressed the Senate as follows: Mr. PiiEsiDKXT : I came rather late to the Senate this morning, and happening to meet a friend on the avenue, I was admon ished by him to hasten my steps, as 41 the war was to be carried into Africa," and I was expected to be annihilated. I lost no time in following the advice, sir, since, it would be awkward for one to be anni hilated without knowing any thing about it. Well, sir, -Ihc "War has been brought into Africa. The honorable member has made an expedition into regions as distant from 'the subject of this debate as the orb of Ju piter from that of our earth. Ho has spo ken of the. tan It, f slavery, and of the late war. Of all this I do not complain. On the contrary, if it be his pleasure to aJlude to all, or any of these topics, for any pur pose whatever, I am ready at all times to hear him. Sir, this carrying the war into Africa, which has become so common a phrase a mong us, is, indeed imitating a great ex ample ; but it is an example which is not always followed by success. In the first place, sir, every man, though he be a man of talent and genius, is not a Scipio; and in the next place, as I recollect this part of Roman and Carthaginian history the gentleman may be more accurate but as I recollect, it, when Scipio resolved upon carrying the war into Africa, Hannibal was not at home. Now, sir, I am very little like Hannibal, but I am at home ; and rwhea Scipio Afi icaiius SouJCajoUfiacfisia lirinTl ill., venr intn mv inrritnr'lna I aliflll Dqt leave their defence to Asdrubal, nor Syphax, nor any Inidy else. I meet him on the shore, at his landing, and propose but one contest, x " v.i.icew .via. a i feu ... , lil. iwi aJ a hiiuii ..... . .. -. v iviii '- " Aut cita mors, Hut victoria laita." Mr. President, I had made up ray mind that if the honorable gentleman should confine himself to a reply, in the ordinary way, I would not say another syllabic. But fie lias gone into subjects quite remoti from all connexion with revenue, com mt r?, finance, or sub-treasuries, and in vites to a discussion which, however unin teresting to the public at the present mo ment, is too personal to be declined by me. He savs, sir, that.. I had undertaken tot it P.iRihipr.riir - - - compare mv political character and con duct with his. Tar from it. I attempted no such tiling. I compared the gentle man's political opinions at different times, witli one another, and expressed decided Opposition to those which he now holds. A ...I I ill ..J . . I juki i uiii, eeiiaiiiiy, uuveri u me geut-mi tone and drift of the gentleman's senti ments and expressions, for some years past, in their bearing on the Union, withsuch remarks as I thought they deserved; but I instituted no comparison between him and myself. He may institute one, if he pleas es, and when he pleases. Seeking noth ing of this kind, 1 avoid nothing. Let it be remembered, that the gentleman began the debate, by attempting to exhibit a contrast between the present opinions and conduct of my friends and myself, and our recent opinions and conduct. Here is the first charge of inconsistency ; let the pub lic judge, whether he has made it good. He says, sir, that on several questions I have taken different sides, at different times :. let him show it. If he shows any change of opinion, I shall be called on to give a reason, and to account for it. 1 leave it to the country to say whether, as yet, he has shown any such thing. But, sir, before attempting that, he ha? something else to say. He had prepared, it seems, to draw comparisons himself He had intended to say something, if time had allowed, upon our respective opinions and condu t in regard to the war. If time had allowed i Sir, time docs allow lime must allow. A general remark of that kind ought not to be, cannot be, left to produce its effect, when that effect is ob viously intended to lie unfavorable. Why , did the gentleman allude to my votes, or 'my opinions, respecting' the war, at all,; unless he had something to say? Does he wish to leave an undWim'd impression that .something'' wjis'oiev or something said, by mo, ncttiapablc of defence or jus tification"? something not reconcilcablc with true patriotism ? lie means that, or noth ing. Anii'now, sir, let him bring thd mat ter forth : let htm take the responsibility of . the aec.usprfl! let him state his facts. I am here to aitswdr . I m here, this day, , to answer. ISoW is the time, and now the " hour. I thing wc read, sir, that one of the good spirits would not bring against the arch enemy of mankind a railing accusa- ui:ii ; unu wuai is railing, uui general re proach an imputation, without fact, time or circumstance ? Sir, I call for particu lars. The gentleman, knows mv whole conduct well : indeed, the journals slioiv it .'ill, from the moment I came into Congress Jill the peace. If I have done, then, sir, .-.any thing unpatriotic any thing which, . as far as love to country goes, will not bear comparison with his, or any man's conduct let it now be stated. Give me the fact, the time, the manner. He speaks of the war: that which we cal the late war, though it is now twenty years since it terminated. He would leave an impres sion that I opposed it. How ; 1 was. not in Congress when war was declared, nor in public life, anywhere. I was pursuing ray profession, and keeping company with judges, sheriffs, and jurors, and plaintiffs ami di fendants. If 1 had been in Con gross, and had enjoyed the benefit of hear ing the honorable gentleman's speeches, for all I can sav I might have concurred with him. But I was not in public life. I never had been, for a single hour; and was in no situation, therefore, to oppose or to support the declaration of war. 1 am speaking to the fact, sir; and if the gentleman has any fact, let us know it. Well, sir, I came into Congress during the war. I found it waged, and raging. And what did 1 do hero to oppose it . Look to the journals. Let the honorable gentleman tax his memory. Bring up any thing, if there be any thing to bring up not snowing error of opinion, but showing want ot loyalty or hdcl ity to the country. I did not agree to all that was proposed, nor did the lionorable member. 1 did not approve of every measure, nor did he. The war had been preceded by the re strictive system, and the embargo. As a private individual, I certainly did not think well of these measures. It appeared to me the embargo annoyed us as much as our enemies," while it destroyed the busi ness and cramped the spirits of the peo ple. In this opinion I may have been right or wrong, but the gentleman was himself of the same opinion. He told us, the other day, as a proof of his independence of party, on great questions, that he differed with his friends on the subject of the cm biifjo. He was decidedly and unalterably opposed to it. 'It furnishes, m his judg incur, therefore, no imputation cither ,on my patriotism, or the soundness of my po litical opinions, that I was opposed to it al so. I mean opposed in opinion : for 1 was not ia Congrcsr and dd nolhiiig t do with the act creating the embargo. And as to opposition to measures fox, carrying on the war, after I came into Congress, I . again say, let the gentleman specify let, him lay his finger on any thing, calling for an answer, and he shall liHve an answer. Mr. President, you were yourself in the House during a" considerable' purt of 'tlii time. The honorable gentleman may m.i'r .i witness ot you. Ho mav make a wit ness of any body else. He may be his own witness, Give us but some fact, soma charjreT o,utlmiJ.cublo in itself cither of being proved or disprovod. Prove any thing, state any thing, not consistent with honorable and patriotic conduct, and I am ready to answer it. Sir, I am glad this subject has been alluded to, in a man ner which justifies me in taking public no tice of it ; Secause I am well aware that, for ten years past, infinite pains have been taken to find something', in the range of these topics, which might create prejudice against me in tho country. The journals have all been poured over, and the reports ransacked, and scraps of paragraphs, and half sentences have been , collected, put together in the falsest manner, and then made to flare out, as if there had been some discovery. But all this failed. The next resort was to supposed correspon dence. My letters we're sought for, to learn if in the. confidence of private friend ship I had never said any thing which an enemy could make use of. With this view', the vicinity of my former residence has been searched, as with a lighted candle New Hampshire has been explored, from the mouth of the Merrimack-to the White Hills. In one instance a gentleman had left the State, gone five hundred miles off", and died. His papers were examined- a letter was found, and I have understood it was brought to Washington a conclave was held to consider it, and the result was, that if there was nothing else against Mr. Webster, the natter had better be let a lone. Sir, I hope' to make every hotly of that opinion who brings ngahst me a charge of want of patriotism. Errors of opinion can, be found, doubtless, on many subjects but as conduct flows from the feelings which animate the heart, I know that no act of my life has had it? origiii in the want of ardent love of country. Sir, when I came to Congress, I found the honorable gentleman a leading mem ber of the House of Representatives. Wclisir, in what did we differ? One of the first measures of magnitude, after I came ncrc, was jvir. uuiiass proposition; for a bank. It was a war measure. It was urged as being absolutely necessary to enable Government to carry on the war. Government wanted revenutt such a bank it was hoped would furnish it ; and on that account it was most warmly pressed and urged on Congress. You remember all this, Mr. President. You remember how mucli some per of the war and the salvation of the coun try depended on carrying that measure Yet, the honorable member from South Carolina opposed this bilL. He now lakes to himself a good deal of merit --none too much, but still a good deal of merit, for having defeated it.-' Well, sir, I agreed with him. It was a tnere; paper. ban k-?v-a mere niachiuc for fabrreoiih jiricdecinalile paper. It was a new form for paper mon ey ; and instead of benefitting the country, I thought it would plunge it deeper and deeper in difficulty. I made a speech on the subject : It has often been quoted. There it i ; let whoever pleases, read and examine iu t am not proud of it, for any ability it exhibits; tn the other hand, I am not ashame'd qf it, for the spirit which it manifests. But, sir, I say again, that the gentleman himself took the lead, a gainst this measure this darling measure of the administration. I followed him ; if I was seduced into error, or into unjustifi able opposition, there sits my seducer. What, sir, wcroothci leading sentiments, or leading measures of that day ? On what other subjects did men differ? The gentleman has adverted to one, and that a most important one ; I mean the navy. He says, and says truly, that at tho coni menceuieiit of the war, the navy was un popular. It was unpopular with his friends, who then controlled the politics of the country. But he says he di lie red with his friends ; in this respect, he resisted party influence, and party connexion, and was the friend and advocate of the navy. Sir, I commend him for it. He showed his wisdom. That callant little navy soon fought itself into favor, and showed that no man, who had placed reliance on it, had been disappointed. Well, sir, in all this, I was exactly of the same opinion as the honorable gentle man. Sir, I do not know when my opinion o the importance of a naval force to the Uni ted States had itsongin. I can give nodatc to my sentiments on this subject, because I never entertained different sentiments. I remember, sir, that immediately aftcreo ming into my profession, at a period when the navy was most unpopular, when it was called by all sorts of hard nau:i.s, and desig nated by many coarse epithets, on one of those Qccaiot4, on which vo'iiii; men ad Less their neighbors, 1 ventured- to put forth a boy's hand tit defence bt the navy. I insisted on its importance, its adaption to ourcircumstanccs, and to our national char acter ; and iu indispensable necessity, - if wc intended to maintain and extend our commerce. 1 hesc opinions and sentiments 1 brought into Congress ; and, so far as I re- member, it was the first or aiooug the first, times iu which 1 presumed to speak on the topics of ,the. day, that 1 attempted to urge on the House a greater attention to the naval serviee. There wero di vers modes of prosecuting the war. On these modes, or on the degree of attention and expense which should be bestowed on each, different men held different opinions. I confess I looked with most hope to- the results of naval warfare, therefore 1 invok ed Government to invigorate and strength en that arm of the national defence. I in voked it to seek its enemy upon thcr seas to go where every auspicious indication pointed, and where .the whole heart and soul of the country would go with it. Sir, we were at war with the greatest ma ritime Power on earth. England had gain ed an ascendency on the seas over the whole combined Powers of Europe. She had been at war twenty years. She , had tried her fortunes on the continent, but ge nerally with no success. At one time the whole continent, had been closed against her. A long line of armed exterior, an un broken hostile array frowned upon her from the gulf of Archangel, round the promonto ry of Spain and Portugal, to the foot of (tic boot of Italy. There was not a port Which an English ship could enter. Every where on the land thcgenius of her great enemy h id triumphed. He had defeated armies, crushed coalition, and overturned thrones : but,- like the fabled giant, ho wa's" uncon querable only while he touched the land. On the ocean, he was powerless. That field of fame was his adversary's, and her meteor flag was streaming in ttiumph all over it. To her maritime ascendency, England owed every thing, and we were now at war with her. One of the charming of her po ets had said of her, that ' Her inarch is o'er the mountain wave, " Her home is on the deep," Now, sir, since we were at war with her, I was for intercepting this march : I was for calling upon her, and paying our respects to Iter at home ; I was for giving her to know that we too, had a right of way over the seas, and that our marine officers and our sailors were not entire strangers on the bosom of the deep: I was for doing some thing more with our navy, than to Keep it on our shores, for the protection of our own coasts and own harbors : I was for giving play to its gallant and burning spirit; for allowing it to go forth upon the seas, and to encounter, n an open and an equal field, whatever the, proudest or the bravest of the enemy could bring against it. I knew the character of its officers, and the spirit of its seaman ; and I knew that, in their hands though the flag of the country might go down to the bottom, while they wehf w i tIiTt7 yet that i t could never "be d is-" honored or disgraced. Since she was our enemy and a most powerful enemy I was for touching her, if wo oould in the very apple of her cye7 for reaching the highest leather in her cap; for clutching at tho very brightest jewel in her crown. There seemed to me to be a peculiar-propriety. in all , this'asr the wart was imdertaken for the redress of nariti'iie7' injuries alone. It was a war declared for free trado and sailors' rights. The ocean, therefore, was the proper theatre for deci ding this controversy with our enemy, and on Jhat thcatro my ardent wish was, that our own power should be concentrated to the utmost. So much, sir, for my conduct and opin ions as connected with it. And, as I do not mean to recur to this subject often, nor cver,unle8s indispensably necessary, I re peat the demand for any charge, any ac cusation,, any allegation whatever, that throws me behind the honorable gentleman or behind any man, in honor, in fidelity, in devoted love to that country in which I was born, which has honored me, and which I serve. I, who seldom deal in defiance, now, here, in my place, boldly defy the honorable member to put his insinuation in the form -of a charge, and to support that charge by any proof whatever. The gentleman has adverted to the sub ject of slavery. On this subject, he says I have not proved myself a friend to the South. Why, sir, the only proof is, that I did not vote for his resolutions. ' Sir, this is a very grave matter, it is a subject, very exciting and inflainable. 1 take, of course, all the responsibility be longing to my opinions ; but I desire these opinions to be understood, and fairly sta ted. If l am to be regarded as an enemy to thd South, because I could not support the gentleman's resolutions, be it so. I cannot purchase favor, from any quarter, by the sacrifice of clear and conscientious con victions. The principal resolution declar ed that Congress had plighted its faith not to interfere, either with slavery or the slave trade, in the District of Columbia. Now, sir, this is quite a new idea. I never heard it advanced until this session. I have heard gentleman contend, that no such power was in the constitution ; but the notion, that though the constitution con tafned no prohibition, vet that Congress had plighted its faith, not to exercise such a power, is an entire novelty, so far as 1 know. I must say, sir, it appeared to me little else than an attempt to put a pro hibitioti into the constitution, because thvrc was none there already. For this suppos ed plighting of the public faith, or the faith of Congress, I saw no ground, cither in the history of -the Government, or in any out fact, or in any argument. 1 therefore could hot vote for the proksi tion. Sir, it u now several year, since I took care to make my opinion known, that this Govern ment has, vjitstitutitrtially, nothing to do with slavery, as it exists in the States. That opin ion is entirely unchanged. 1 stand steady by the resolution of the House of Representatives, adopted, after much consideration, at the com mencement of the Government -which was, that Congress has no authority to interfere in the emancipation of slaves, or in the treat ment of them, within arty of the States ; it re maining with the several Nr.-ites alone to pro yule any regulations therein, which humanity and true policv in ay require. This, in my opiii ion, is the constitution, ami the law. I reel bound hv it. I have quoted the resolution often. It expresses the judgment1 of tin n ot' all parts of the country, deliberately funned, in a cool time and it expresses my judgment, and 1 shall ad here to it. Bui this has nothing to do with the ether constitutional question; that is to say, the mere constitutional question, whether Con gress has the power to regulate slavery and the slave trade, in the District of Columbia. On such a question, sir, 'when I am asked what the Constitution is, or whether any power granted by it, has been compromised away ; or, indeed, could he compromised away I inustcx prci1 my honest opinion, and always shall ex press ,t, if I say any thing, notwithstanding it may not meet concurrence either in the South, or the North, or the East, or the West. I can not express, by my vote, what I do not believe. He has chosen to bring that subject into this dcltate, with which it has no concern, but he may make the most of it, if he can produce un favorable. impressions oil t he - South, from ' my neca tivtr to- ht fifth rfaohtttott - As to the rest of tiicun, they wero common-places, generally, or abstractions ; in regard to winch, one may well not feel hunselt eatled on to voto at all. And now, sir, in rejn.nl to the tariff. That is a long chapter, but i am quite ready to go over it with the honorable member. He charges me with inconsistency. That may depend on deciding what inconsistency is, in respect to such subjects, and how it is to be proved. I will state the facts, fof J have them in my mind somewhat more fully than the hon orable member lias-'himself presented thcni. Let us begin at the beginning. In lolo, I vot ed against the tariff' law, which then passed. In lwl, 1 again voted, against tlm tariti law, which was then proosed, and which passed. A majority ot lev hnglauu votes, m lfJ was against the tantr system, the bill received but one vote from Massachusetts ; but it passed. TliQ policy was established ; New England ac quiesced in it, conformed her business and pur suits to it ; embarked her capital, and employed her labor hi manufactures; arid 1 certainly ad mit that, troni that time, 1 have ieit bound to support interests thus called into being, and in to importance, by the settled policjLof the gov ernment 1 have stated this often here, ana of ten elsewhere. The ground is-defensible, and 1 maintain it ' As to the resolutions adopted in Boston, in 1320, and which resolutions he has caused to be read, and which he says he presumes I prepared, I have no recollection of having drawn the res- oiutions, ana uo not believe i uia. nun was at the meeting,., a ndidreicd,lbQ..nAet!ngwJUll; what I said on that occasion has been produced here, and read ii tho Senate years ago. The rtsoIut(ons,-sir, were opposed to the com mpncinir of a hitrh tariff oolicv. I was ODrtosed n " n i f , 1' to it, and-spokcragatnst H the city ot Boston was spposod, to it the Commonwealth pt Mas sachusetts was opposed to it. Remember, sir, that this was in l).1 This opposition contin ued till 1924. The votes aH show this. But i 12 1, the question was decided the Govern- tpeot entered upon the policy : it lnviteu men to embark their property and their means of liv ing in it Individuals have done this to a great extent; and, therefore, I say, so long as the manufactures shall need reasonable and just protection from Government, I shall be dispos ed to give it to tnem. What is there, sir, m all tnis, tor the gentleman to complain of 1 Would he have us to always oppose the policy, adopted by the country, on a great question ! Would he have minorities never submit to the , will of majorities 1 1 remember to have said, sir, at the meeting in faneuil nail, tnat protection appeared to be regarded as incidental to revenue, and that the incident could not be carried tairly above the principal : in other words, that duties ought not to be laid for the mere object of protection. I believe that was substantially correct. I be lieve that if the power of protection be infer red only from the revenue power, the protec tion could only be incidental But, I have said in this place before, and I repeat now, that Mr. Madison's publications, after that period, and his declaration that the convention did intend to grant the power of protection, under the commercial clause, pla ced the subject in a new and clear light I will add, sir, that a paper drawn up by Dr. Franklin, and read by lum to a circle of friends a Philadelphia, on the eve of the assembling of me convention, respecung mo powers wnicn the proposed new Government ought to possess, shows, perfectly plainly, that, in regulating commerce, it was expected Congress would a dopt a course, which should, to some degree, pietect the manufactures of the North. He certainly went into the convention himself un der that conviction. Well, sir, and now what does the gentleman make out against me in relation to the tariff! What laurels docs ho gather in this part of Af rica 1 I opposed the jtolicy of the tariftj untd it had become the settled and established policy of the country. 1 have never questioned the constitutional power of Congres to grant pro tection, except so tar as the remark goes, made in Faneuil ball, which remark respects only the length to which protection might properly be carried, so fur as the power is derived Irom the authority to lay duties ortimports. But the pol icy being established, and a great part of the country having placed vast interests at stake in it, I have, net disturbed it ; on the contrary, I. have insisted that iLought tjot jo be disturbed It there be inconsistency in all this, the gentle man .s at liberty to blazen it forth ; let him see what he can make of it Here, sir, 1 cease to speak of myself ; and respectfully ask pardon of the Senate for having so long detained it, upon any thing sO unimportant aYoyhat relates merely to to my own public conduct and opinions. . Sir, the honorable member is pleased to suppose that our spleen is excited, because he has interfered to snatch from us a victo ry over the Administration. If he means by this any personal disappointment, I shall not think it worth while to make a remark upon it. If he means a disappointment at his quitting us while wc were endeavoring to arrest the present policy of the adminis tration, why then, I admit, sir, that I, for one, felt that disappointment deeply. It is th? policy of the Administration, its prin ciples, and its measures which I oppose. It is not persons, but things ; not men, but measures. 1 do wish most fervently to put an end to this anti commercial policy, and if the overthrow of the policy shall be fol lowed by the political defeat of its authors, why, sir, it is a result which I shall endea vor to meet with equanimity. Sir, as to the honorable member's rescu ing the victory from us, or as to his ability to sustain the Administration in this policy, there may be a drachm of a scruple about that; I trust the citadel will yet be storm ed, and carried, by the force of public op inion, and that no Hector will bo able to defend its walls. But now, sir, I must advert to a declara tion of the honorable member, which, 1 confess did surprise inc. The honorable member says, that, personally, he and my self have been on friendly terms, but that wc always differed on great constitutional questions ! Sir', this is "astounding And yet i " was -partly prepared for it-; for I sat here the other day, and held my brcVdi while the honorable gentleman declared and repealed, that he always belonged to the State-rights party ! And he means, by what he has declared to-day, that he has always given to the Constitution a construc tion more limited, better guarded, less fa vorable to the extension of the powers of this Government, than that which I have given to it. He has always interpreted it according to the strict doctrine of the school of State rights ! Sir, if the honor ablo member ever belonged, until very lately, to the State-rights party, the connex ion was very much like a secret marriage. And never was secret better kept. Not only were the espousals not acknowledged, bqt all suspicion was avoided. There was no known familiarity, or even kindness be tween them. On the contrary, they acted like parties who were not at all fond of each other's company. Sir, is there a mar., in my hearing, among all the gentlemen now surrounding us, ma ny of whom of both Houses, have been here many years, and know the gentleman and myself, perfectly ; is there one, who ever heard, supposed, or dreamed, that the honorablo jnotobcr belonged to the state rights party before the year 1825 ? Ckn any such " conncitwbe proved upo hinv can lie prove u upvu uuuscii, ucwib " timet Sir, I will show you, before I resume my seat, thatit was not Tintil after the gentle man took bts seat-in the chair which you ; now occupy, that any public manifestation, or mtimation, was ever given by him, ofj his having embraced the peculiar doctrines i of the State-rights partjr. - The truth is, sir, the honorablo gentle man had acted a very important and use ful part during the war. But the war ter minated. Toward the close of the ses sion of 1814 '15, wc received the newa of peace. This closed the 13th Congress. In the fall of 1815, the 14th Congress as sembled. It was full of ability, and tho honorable gentleman stood high among its distinguished members. He remained in the House, sir, through the whole of that Congress ; and now, sir, it is easy to bo shown, that during those two years, the honorable gentleman took ft decided lead, in all those great measures, which he has since so often denounced, as unconstitu tional and oppressive the bank, the tariff, and internal improvements. " The war be ing terminated, the gentleman mind turn ed itself toward internal administration and improvement. He surveyed the whole country, contemplated all Us resources, saw what it was capiible of becoming, and bcld a political faith, not so narrow and con tracted as to restrain lum from useful and efficient action. He was, therefore, at once, a full length ahead of all others, in measures, which were national, and which required a broad arid liberal construction of the constitution. This is historic truth. Of his agency in the bank, and other meas-. urcs connected with- the currency, i tiavo already spoken, and ' I do not understand hi in to deny any thing which I have said, n that particular. Indeed, I have said nothing capable of denial. iSow allow me a few- words upon the tariff. The tariff of 1816 was distinctly a South Carolina measure. Look at the votes, and you will see it. It was a tariff, for the bene 111 of South Carolina interests, , and carried through Congress by South Carolina votes, and South Carolina influ ence. Even the minimum, sir, the so-much- reproached, the abominable minimum, that subject of so much angry indignation and - wrathful .rhetoric, is .jm. houuuirxL origin, and has a South Carolina parentage. Sir, tho contest on that occasion was, chiefly, between the cotton-growers at home, and the importers of cotton fabrics from lndta.s : These India fabrics- were made from the cotton of that country. Tho people of this country were using cot ton fabrics, not made of American cstton, and, so far, they were diminishing the de mand 10. such cotton. The importation of India cottons was tht.ii very large, and this bill was designed to put au end to it, and, with the help of the miwwuu, it did put an end to it. The cotton manufactures of the North Were then in their infancy. They had some friends in Congress, but if I recollect, the majority of .Massachusetts members, and of iew England members were against this cotton tariff of 1810. I remember well that the main debate was, between the importers of India cottons, in the North, and the Cotton growers of tho South. The gentleman" cannot deny tho truth of this or any part of it. Boston op posed this tariff, and Salein opposed it, warmly and vigorously. But the honora ble member supported it, and tho law past ed. And now be it always remembered, sir, that that act passed on the professed ground of protection; hut it had in it tho minimum principle, and that the honorabla member and other leading gentlemen from his own State, supported it, voted for it, and curried it through Congress. And now, sir, we come to the doctrino of internal improvement that oilier usur pation, that other oppression, which has come so near to justitying violent abrup tion of ihc Government, and scattering tho fragments of the Union to the four winds. Have the gentleman's State-rights opinions always kept hun aloof from such -unhallowed infringements of the CQiistitutiori ? Ho says he always diflere d with'me on consti tutional questions. How was it in this, most important, particular I Has be here stood on the ramparts, brandishing his glit tering sword against assailants, and hold ing out a banner of defiance ! Sir sir sir it is an indisputable truth, that he is himself the man the ipse that first brought forward, in Congress, a scheme of general iuternal improvement, at the expense, and under the authority of this Government. He, sir, is the very loan, the ipsi minus ipse, who, considerately, and on a settled system, began these unconstitutional meas ures, if they be unconstitutional. And now for the proof. The act incorporating the Bank of tho United States was passed in April, 1810. ' For the. privileges of the charter, the pro prietors of the bank were to pay to Gov ernment a bonus, as it wascalicd, of one million five hundred thousand dollars, iq certain instalments. Uovcrinncut also took seven millions in the stock of tho bank. Earlyjn the next sesssion of Con- gress that is, in LKjcerober, 1816 tho honorable member moved, in the House of Representatives, that a committee be ap- itoiutcd to consider the propriety of setting apart this bonus, and also the dividends on the stock belonging to tbe United States,as a permanent fund .for internal improvement- Ilie committee was appointed, and tho honorable in ember was made its chairman. He thus originated the plan, and took the lead in its execution.- ShbrtlyTifterwards, he reported a bill carrying out the objects for which the committee had been appoint ed. This bill provided that the dividends on the seven millions of bank stock bc longing to Government, and also the whole 'I k N.-8