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WAY TO PEACT3r-A HISTORI CAL PRETEX. ' Tin: ,..enis that, the only things in the f cessation of hostilities between and Japan are some mohey and ia. ..L Japan wants a big- indem i.a some land; Russia wishes to neitherJ And that is the rock which they were about to split on w hen President Roosevelt, act - r this country, England, France ,; rniany, took a hand in the ne ... . Since then there has been ..lt "the powers" would be able n fome sort of agreement be Kussta and Japan, or, at least. , to let their differences be ar ..,. fonsklerations of humanity , ,,, amerce demand that the war ?,. vent that the powers and , , eommisioners cannot reach usion, a subscriber to this pa-a'k-'s a suggestion that may well -i 'ered. He writes: In the Philippines in Order to Make Peace. EdKor: While President is Exerting his great in i.ring about peace between :t Russia, wouldn't it be a a tor him, while their backs ., d. to slip the Philippines off .That is draw up the peace ,,, such a manner as to give the ,,., to; Russia, and then let aw e them to Japan. i.OIES DEMPSEY BULLOCK. -)-.. -UgnesllUII Ul UU1 111CI1U IS I1UL - - tute, but is also in a sense ., ;. j!. It j fills the bill, opens a" v i,r both sides to get out.with and would cause an emotion , " A A.1 A! A. A. m T- , i r-iir trom me Auamic to ine.ra cuc in the United States. Japan -r.vjid have her land, Russia would c r "tt f a tiffht hole, the United .-tuv? would be happy. . Since Japan land so badly she would be !..!' also, and nobody would be hint. And the method by which these H:tiaiKmg and humane results might brought to pass isjv while com-jlk-at-d. by no means so impossible a iabor as it would appear at first blush to be. Hence, the historical iarkknt, occurring during and im-n.-Jiately after the civil war and in volving Russia herself in a highly piatifying web of Yankee diplomacy. A is well known, there was a gen--ra! inclination among the great p.. vers following up the first suc er.s t-s of the j Confederacy to reeog iu;:e the new nation. The sympathies uf the world were with the seceding Stated. How to keep that sympathy from becoming manifest was the rbiem of the statesmen of the Union, .-v.vard solved the problem. To the n.nder of the world, while a state i i war existed to the death, the great iiusiian neet sailed half way" around ihr seas, anchored in New York har bor and her officers were dined and feted by the authorities at Washing ton and other important cities of the United .States in a way that indicated a perfect understanding.. a! conse powers, far- mieiuc other European 1 :il of war among themselves, refrain ed from recognizing the Confederacy a-- a nation. That is all s- history, but behind it, and not written in the records, -is another story of tradition which is well established. After the Union had been restored Russia desired her pay f"r services performed.; Her envoys came to- America to collect the ex penses of the trip of the fleet and the b iius which had been agreed upon. The cabinet recognized the obligation, but there was a difficulty in the method of making payment. How to put into the budget "so many million dollars fur Russia's help in'the war against the Confederacy" was a question that caused a great scratching of diplo matic heads. It was one of thole in stances where both parties desired to trade, but where the details would be luimiliating to both U they became known to the world. Russia would bav at once lost her high pose of a friendly and j protecting nation; the United States would seem to have been bargaining for the victory which it was desired to be. thought had been won withoiL outside interference. In tht middle of the tangle, the difficult kii'Jt was severed by a nuestion which bid nrobablv never been used before bi the "annals of national negotiation -aid Simon Cameron to the Russian envoy?: "Io you give a damn for Alaska? The R ussians i were i startled: "Of ' not," they replied indignantly "-either do we." said Cameron, "but ' - H buy it from you." The Russians figured up their bill, tn. price was agreed to, a stately UeLtiy Was urawn up and Alaska was -Vw, while it is' true that the same lH";is for; the purchase of the 1" . . i ' "iiibbines did not apply with the fJ!ninissioners after the Spanish war, ls ' Elands are ours I at an original J'11" ot twenty millions with expenses "t hundred or so millions a year to "ii to them. Like a man who i l'US at on ainirr. Vmir tmt what we a;,-i 'b expect, don't want, and would "K t" get rid of. What a chance for hon.evelt! The stopping of blood the saving of thousands of lives, "":,ns of treasure and the hurt pride 1,1 1 L'reat nation 1 -f t the President put one-frank arm M Ml? broad shoulder of the Russ, a" "ir on the dapper back of the Jap Unl sa' in that hearty way of his: lt s the matter with you fellows " ""w? Let me fix this thing. Al In.. i i -iKaao; wants is some land in ' ,;' ! his people may overflow an"d "hrr and a thousand million dol 'Nou'. of course the Czar don't ant to give up any land he wants and '' 'lon t wish to get into the position Jl bpeariiW t ,J ? ,r !at looks hard, but it ain't. It's like- "aiiiisr Now, confidentially, we now. " t give a strenuous adjective for the Philippines. Neither does Russia. We can't turn em loose, or sink 'era In the sea, nor let anybody 'take 'em away rom us but we'll sell. Now Japan ust to pay the costs of this little Peace entertainment we will sell you an op tion on the Philippines at a hundred million, Russia can pay you a thous and million down for the right to buy. foreclose the option, with us and then cede the 1 Islands to Japan. Japan would have all she wanted and Russia would not be in any worse plight than getting caught in a land specula tion." "But," might say the Russian en voys "the thousand million?" And Roosevelt would smile a Jiu- Jitsu grin and whisper. , ' tnss! To get rid of the Philip pines is better than peace at any price it's worth all .the money there is!" TIIE J&HA3IBEK OF COMMERCE. Our city is to be congratulated on the "reorganization of the Chamber of Commerce. The laree attendance at the meeting, the fine spirit that pre vailed, the unusuallly large enrollment of members, the constitution and by- aws adopted, the officers elected, and the business transacted, all speak in unmistakable terms of a purpose and a power to create for Raleigh a live, active and potential Chamber of Com merce. . The time had come for re organization, and it was effected with wisdom, an , enthusiasm and a unanimity that left nothing undone which should have, been done and did nothing that should have been omitted.. One of the, most admirable features of the reorganization was the cordiality in its behalf manifested by the few faithful who for so many years have kept the old Chamber from dying and by persistent and faithful work have inaugurated for Raleigh so many en terprises -and improvements. 1 All honor to thorn.' ' With1 Joseph G. Brown as president, and Jos. H. Cutler and Thomas S. Fuller as vice presidents, and B. S. Jerman as treasurer and the splendid body of directors, who will soon select competent secretary, the future of the Chamber and, through it, the fu ture of the city is assured. We have no doubt that the list of members will grow until it includes every' progres sive business man in Raleigh. There are now over 200 members. There should be 300 by the next meeting and 500 by the close of the year. RALEIGH THE DUMPING GROUND. Do we wish Raleigh to be made the dumping ground for all the saloon keepers who have been voted out of four-fifths of the towns and cities of the State? Tbe only hope the "For Saloons" folks have of winning if an election is called is 'by the wholesale use of money, most of which, will be contributed by men who do not live -in ialeigh. They will send it here to be used to seoure an: "open door" ;o , ply their trade and make a larger market for their vres. The big whiskey makers wish customers who will pay big profits and they will chip in and help. - It was bad enough in Raleigh: before the saloons were voted out. It will be ten-fold worse if they are permitted to be re-opened. There is but one course. that wisdom dictates: Keep out the saloons! There are quite a number of people in Raleigh who signed the pe tition to vote "for saloons" tender a misapprehension, and others still who .signed it without reflection. The tem perance forces appeal to all such to take their names off of the petition and not precipitate Raleigh into an election that can benefit nobody but men who wish to sell whiskey. Wall street says 'that "bluffing is a pari of the Peace Conference pro gramme" and should occasion no sur prise. Japan wants all it can get; Russia wishes to give as little as possi ble; the balance of the world demanas peace upon any proper terms that will put an end to bloodshed and its injury to commerce. A Charlotte paper thinks it "funny that Charlotte- merchants nave to order steamed bpead from Raleigh." Sensible" is the word, to apply to Charlotte merchants msteaay oi funnv" The Charlotte merchants - . . . A. 1 want the best ana, inereiore, iney send to Raleigh for , If the Peace Commissioners keep in session much longef, Frank Mebane will get the capitalists from both coun tries to invest all tne money runa- mouth don't get in factories at Spray It will be a good thing for tle Japs xa Riiooians , a well as for North aiiu v u.j Carolina. - Booker Washington says that when "in the South, I conform, like all coj a tn the customs of the Ul uu vt-i South." Of course. No Southern white man invites him to dine and he therefore eats with members of his own race. Today Virginia, will name Us next United States Senator in a Democratic primary.- The Martin and? Montague men both seem confident of success May the best man win. Castro's talk) about fight with the United States suggests that he hat some islands he wishes to sell as the price of peace. The collapse of the Virginla-Carb lina ball league 'but repeats ancient kwnrv na it seems we remember something of the kind in past years. South Carolina boasts a statesman of the name-to-be-remembered varl ety. He's the Hon. Klmsey Huskey of Cherokee county. ' ' There appears to be no mark down of prices of colored goods in the john wanamaker department stores. WILL RUSSIA YIELD? J . The peace conference at the Ports-. mouth navy yard between the plenipc- tentiaries of Japan and Russia Is now at that acute stage which has been ex pected, and the press reports are that there is pessimism on both sides as to the outcome. Russia has virtually accepted with but little change ten of the twelve ar ticles submitted by Japan, but the main question is that of an indemnity of perhaps a billion dollars to Japan, and the cession of the Island of Sak halin to that power, which has al ready occupied it. " The Japanese are showing great re serve in their pour parlers with the Russians and the latter " are much mystified as to the ultimate decision of the men . from the Far East. The brown men of the Island Empire are proving themselves as skilled in diplo macy as they are alert and successful in war. Studying the conditions of the two countries from the American point of view it is not seen how the Japanese ... could ask less than they have done. In every important engagement on land and sea they have defeated the Russians, and if the Czar wishes to end the war his representatives must realize that the Japanese are the conquerors. They have writ this io blood in the fall of Port Arthur, in the battle 5f Mukden and in the rout in the Sea of Japan. They have march ed from success to.. success and their banners have waved in victory during the entire war. There may be minor modification In the terms, but the taciturn Jap has given no intimation of this, and his prowess and determination are such that but a slight change can reason ably be expected. The purpose of the Japanese plenipotentiaries is to make a. lasting peace between Russia and their country, and their demands as contained in the articles submitted to the Russians have been drawn for this purpose. Full well do they realize that the influence of Russia in the East is to their hurt and they will be insistent in demanding that every possible avenue to this be stop ped. If the peace conference fails it will be because Russia fears to accept the terms offered, and if these are not accented it will be because the pow ers that rule in Russia dare not face their people with the report of their acceptance of these terms. For years t has been the policy of Russia to take that from which Japan has driven them. The country seeks a! pprt on the open seas, and when it recedes from its desires of years it will be sole-, y because the logic of war has driven t to this point. It is realized that there is trouble for the ruling dynasty in Russia if the peace terms do not set well on the stomachs, of the war. party and the forces ver in oDDOsi tlon to the government: ' , - i And if peace fails, what then? It is certain that Oyama has long been prepared to strike a ouick and terribl blow to the army facing him, and the expectation is that this will come close upon a failure to agree. His army has had a breathing spell, and s now ready and eager to go forward on a march of victory and conquest. There have been battles in he past, but that war that Sherman has lurid- y told of will go on in the East with the failure of the negotiations. r The Japanese at home have not been optimistic as to peace and they ire prepared to see the negotiations fail, for they do. not trust to Russian blandishments or soft phrases. They ire taking not one thing for granted, but as the negotiations proceed Oyama increases the . efficiency of his magnificent fighting machine facing the forces of Linevitch, and behind him are the thousands who have never nown defeat and who are eajrer to do battle, even though they know that their lives are but pawns in the m 4 ru It will be the death blow that Japan ;vill endeavor to give if the war starts afresh, and if the record of the past is a prophecy of the future then Linevitch will be swept aside as a straw in a whirlwind, and Manchuria will be the possession of the Japanese. On they will go and Vladivostock, now Russia's, will fall as did Port Arthur. Lake Baikal, the valley of the Amur, Kamchatka will all be ob jective points with Linevitch's army i - A A. 3 J iL . A. A. 1 A9 aeieaieu, aim uie miorai snores oi the Pacific, for which Russia longs, will be Japanese. r-i -i t n . a. t oucn is me numumuon wmcn jap- inese prowess in the past marks out 1 im - tor rtussia snouia peace iaii. xne terms now proposed may be hard, but with further Japanese victories they will be made harder.. Russia is in straits now to borrow money to con - 'inue the war, there is discord at home. Money that country can se- :ure with which to make peace. Is it lot the part of her statesmen to ac- ?ept now and face difficulties at home, rather than put oft that evil lay that the future seems to hold suspended by but a slender thread? THE PURPOSE OP THE TRUSTS The problem which the United States has to deal with today is the trusts, not those in detail, but with them In their combined efforts, and in all their ramifications. The nroseeution of some nhase of nnttnn of o einMp twt i n than the attemnt to fill a sieve with rain drops. The drops don't come fast enough and there is not enough of iC ,CvC iu nu.u miu vtiuni come. Control one trust in one detail . m 9 a . m . . w " jl rSAhSaS.." .. to "S Projector,. keep regularly at work.. s The domination of the trusts In the political life of this country has been felt and felt keenly. These huge com. bInatIons DUt UD monfkV tn huv lectIon . ft n aim at control of.-, the very seat of government and It is told as an open secret that In the great law making bodies of this country they have their men, who propose and push and have passed laws whose purpose and In fluence is for the trusts. ' I Monopoly and Its evils come from these trusts, and it is the purpose of the leaders to control in every sphere of human activity. There is but one recourse, and that is in the hands of the people themselves, those who are Tree from trust domination. The career and trend of mind of every man who offers for law making and judicial powers must be studied, and if he is a creature of the trusts. If he is one who can be handled by them, his proper place is in the sphere of pri vate activity. Put none but true and tried men on guard. The purpose of the trusts is sarcastically set forth bv Mr. George W. Moore, of Detroit Mich igan, who writes that the revised constitution of the United States should read as follows: "We the 'Captains of Industry of the United States,' in order to form a more perfect merger, establish trusts, insure combines, provide for our am ple profits, promote our stock expan sions and secure the blessings of mo nopoly to ourselves and our corpora tions, do ordain and establish this con stitution for the United States of America. ARTICLE I. All legislative power herein granted shall be vested in a congress of the United States to be composed of our employes. ARTICLE II. The executive power shall be vested in a President of the United States, to be selected by our boards of di rectors. ARTICLE IV. , All tariffs shall be sufficiently high i to fully protect our monopolies. ARTICLE. V. Railroad rebates shall be paid, but only to trust magnates. ARTICLE VI. . All taxes shall be levied upon the common people, and the amount shall be sufficient to pay ample dividends on our watered stocks. ARTICLE VII. , All officers within each state shall be appointed by our agent therein. ARTICLE VIII. ' No state shall pass any law that we are bound to respect. ARTICLE IX. - 'This constitution shall take imme diate effect and shall never be amend ed.' . The Chatham county Confederate veterans and their friends- meaning everybody who could be in Pittsboro on Wednesday had a splendid re- union on that day. Its success is due Jtp the splendid local chapter of the Daughters of the Confederacy, of ,hich Mrs. H. A. London Is the mov ing spirit, and who as the State presi- eqt. ig endeavoring to have Chapters . every . county m North Carolina, a Purpose that should have ample sup Port- success or tne inamam re union was assured when the women backed it,, as is always the case when . "iey a "J ' Hyde continues to prefer English 'doll and English air for that carbuncle about which he" writes so freely. He prefers the physician's Jancet to the Cotton 'scandal probe and keeps out of the way of the folks who are diag- x - hosing the leak in the Department of Agriculture. It is a pity that the car- buncle hadn't operated years and years ago and kept Hyde out of the Depart- ment altogether. .' The virus is at work. In Goldsboro the liquor element is circulating a pe tition for an election "For Saloons.' Goldsboro has prohibition and the re Prt from there is that the volume of business done is greater under pro- hibition than with the open saloons. Goldsboro voters should not sign the petition. Keep the saloons out with i the least possible trouble and ex- 1 Pense. Ten cents a name was given the toters of the petition' "For v Saloons' and the lists were padded with 340 il legal names. That was $34.00 thrown in the air. What is the price offered to haul up other ineligibles "in person' to have them aid in placing tempta tions in the path of "the young men of Raleigh and the visitors to the Capi tal. Take your name off the petition. , That Chicago man who is sued for tne price Qf a flfty dollar braid.. and ten thousand dollars for the humllia- tion Involved through igniting the false hair of a peroxide blonde by a careiessly thrown match on a street car; douDtless wonders why he did not iearn in his youth to be careful of nre ' ' Strange but true. Atlanta has balk- ed once at being put in the limelight. The folks over there indignantly deny as a "fake" story the report sent out that there were twelve cases of yellow fever in that city. Nobody blames Atlanta for it either, as such a canard is likely to have serious results on the life and prosperity of any city. If the terms of the Japanese are not accepted in Portsmouth, then Oyama and Togo will dictate them in the Far East, and the dove of peace will have its perch near the cannons' mouth, I The best advIce to &lve ,today tor morality, for the best interest of the .individual, and for common sense In Sleigh is Take your name off the "For Saloons'- petition. Apex is to be congratulated that to- d f . g new career th its and may Apex move up from success! , tp, success. TAKE YOUR NAME OFF. .. The settlement of the question as to whether or not Raleigh is to be put to the useless trouble and" large ex pense of an election to decide whether the city desires the corrupting In fluences of many saloons to return Is now in the hands and on the heart of the individual citizen. The report of the Committee of the Board of Aldermen gives the petition ers for saloons, after reducing the number of names on the registration books by 252. a majority of 13 names over the required one-third of the reg .stered vpte. If this, report is re ceived and accepted by the Board of Aldermen without any further changes then an election will be held, che result of which is certain to be the defeat of the effort ta restore the jaloons to power in Raleigh. The matter of the success or failure of the petition is not yet settled, how ever, for the committee has post poned for action by the full Board of Aldermen the matter of allowing names to be withdrawn from the pe tition or- added to it. Without en tering into any other question con- erning the matter this is the crux in .he present conditions, and this puts :he issue' squarely before the men who put their names on the petition think- ng they would be given a right to vote tor prohibition, but who get no such right, those who put their names on just to be obliging," and those who put their names on without full con sideration. To these men the question now omes directly, and it is, "Do you wish co allow your names to remain on the petition, or dd you wish them to come jff?" If y6u will consider the best Interests of Raleigh your answer is not to be doubted, and you will un hesitatingly answer, "Take my name 3ff." There is opportunity for you to Jo so, and to end this matter being thrust needlessly upon the city arid its voters, and each man whose name .s on the petition, if he is anxious to rise to the full performance of his Juty, will accept the opportunity. This can be done by appearing in person before the Board of Aldermen it the regular meeting on tne nrst Friday night in September, which is the first day of the month, and at that time asking to have your name taken from the petition. As the matter now stands nineteen men have the power in their hands to stop an elec tion that will entail useless expense. the loss of much time, and the de bauching influence of money, which will be poured into Raleigh by whiskey interests, which, has visions that this is an opportunity to re-entrench it self in the Capital of the State, and with this as its Port Arthur to reach out and again come into control in other places. ' ' It is a vision that will fade if there pomes anv elebtiori, but' let us end It now. TAli.K YOUIt XAAlt: Ul'"' THE PETITION, is "the way to do it, and your action will be the proof that vou see that it is for the best interests of Raleigh. s Raleigh is being watched over the State and out of the State by the whiskey interests to see if it is going to return to many saloons. It is not going to do so and the movement for saloons here will be defeated by an overwhelming vote. But there is no need for the election and the meeting of attempts to. debauch the electorate. If your name is on the petition take it off and aid to defeat the attemptyto Involve the city in a heated and use less campaign. Take your name off the whiskey petition. The conditions as to peace being made between Russia and Japan are of the pessimistic kind, and the tele grams from Portsmouth have no hopeful tone. It appears that Russia will not agree to pay an indemnity to Jap'an, no matter what word is used to cover the fact that it is an in demnity, and will also not agree to cede Sakhalin. Unless, a sudden change is made by Japan in its de mands it seems that the curtain will soon rise again upon a bloody drama of war in . the East. A correspondent suggests that when President Roosevelt is in Raleigh at the State Fair he appear in the pro cession on horseback. This is no inti mation from him that he considers Roosevelt a straddler. Peculiar Disappearance. J. D. Runyan, of Butlervllle, O., laid the peculiar disappearance of his pain ful symptoms, of indigestion and bill - ousness, to Dr. King's New Life Pills. He says:- "They are a perfect reme dy, for dizziness, sour stomach, head ache, constipation, etc." Guaranteed at all drug stores, price 25c. SHELBY'S GREAT WEEK. Cleveland county has had a week of splendid reunion of Its sons at home and Its sons abroad In the "Home Comers Week," which has Just ended. and whleh proved a grand success from start to finish. x Cleveland hospitality and a Shelby welcome mean more than the mere words, and that the great crowd In at tendance was handsomely entertained Is known before mention of this Is made. There were eloquent speeches from sons at home, from sons abroad and from prominent North Carolinians who would feel proud to be sons of Cleveland county. . The closing day was made memora ble, not alone by the eloquent address by Governor Glenn, whose topic was of the Confederate soldier, but also by the enthusiastic response In con tributions of about $1,800 for the erec tion of a monument to Cleveland county Confederate soldiers, the i don ors subscribing hundreds ofc dollars, while the .audience cheered in ap proval. A noble deed nobly done, fittingly ended the week with honors to the Confederate dead. The patriotic" wo men of Cleveland had already raised some $450 for the Confederate monu ment, this with the contributions of Friday, amounts to nearly $2,300, a total which it is expected to easily Increase to $3,000. That the Confederate monument In Cleveland county, when erected, will come as the result of the "Home Comers Week," Is a triDute to tnat event which win last for years jjpon years, and the monu ment will stand in Shelby as typical of the love felt for the county and for its Confederate heroes by the dis persed, 'and by those who "stayed at home. ' Spirit 61 the Press. - "Lex Scriptffr ,.. Winston Sentinel. We. have been shown a "quasi book, to use the term of its author, entitled "Lex Scrlpta." It Is a brief historical outline of the Statute law upon many Important subjects, re viewing the several stages and changes of that law since the English Parlia ment first legislated upon it. Its au thor is "Samuel F. Mordecal. Esq.." to put it In the very modest manner of the man. who is not an Esquire but Professor of Law at Trinity College, and one of the most eminent "legal scholars in the South, i This little book, "Lex Scripta," is wonderfully well wrought out and as he has kept it right much of a secret. we thought we would tell the public of it.' We need to show more of the work of such men. . Such Sentiment Desirable. Winston Sentinel. The idea of placing a staue of Zebulon B. Vance in Statuary Hall of the national capitol is a good one. It is an encouraging sign that the people of the State are showing a wil lingness to honor the memory of its former distinguished men. Some people may say that there Is too much sentiment in this, but sentiment of such a nature is a very desirable thing. There is something radically wron with a people who have not sentiment enough to honor the memory of men who have wrought well for their na tive State. We hope that the idea of commercialism' will not advance so' far as to cause us to be unmindful of our great men of the past. Splendid Stroke of Journalism. San ford Express. The News and Observer appeared last Sunday as an educational edition. It was a history of the work' and ad vancement of the schools and colleges of the State. One could not read itr without feeling proud of North Car olina and the progress she is making along educational lines. This edition contained articles of nerit from many of the leading educators of the State. It also contained a large number of cuts of school buildings and colleges and pictures of county superintend ents, teachers and professors, among them Superintendent M. A. McLeod and Prof. R. W. Allen, superintendent of the Sanford graded school. It was a splendid stroke of journalism. credit To Southern Journalism. Southern Pines Free Press. Last Sunday's Raleigh News and vnisrrer was a. creuii iu ouu mj l ri Journalism and enterprise. It was an educational edition, showing the pro--gress of education in North Carolina, anH cnntalneH nuniApniia il luct r-a Hn a of men and women who are engaged in education work also a picture of Governdr R. B. Glenn. Every person interested in the work of educational progress should see a copy of Ttie News and Observer of above date. The Man or the Dollar. Madison County Record. Here is the difference between the man who puts the dollar first and the man who puts' character first: The head of the house of Rothschild once said: "Make friends only of such per- j sons as can be of real help to you.' Emerson. the philosopher, once wrote: "There is but one rule to follow in choosing friends; make sure that they are better than yourself In some one particular." 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