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' . . ! ' : v : : - : :- r . ' ' ; " ! i ' V I I Mi C . CSv C wfk . fill 1' iSSr i A i : i TRI -WEEKLY AND WEEKLY IJY THE ERA PUBLISHING COMPANY. I llntva uf !Slll;e:r-illioil 1 Thi-Weekly One vear, in advance, $3 00 ; G months, in advance, 1! 00 S 3 months, in advencc, 1 00 j 1 month, in advance, Z0 ! Weekly One vear. in advance, l "0 Six months, in advance. At the request of Mr. Erwin, we an- j iiouikt that his connection with this pajer, as oneof its Editors, censes to- , day. J Amnksty. The Neic York Timet, , the leading Republican paper of the j l-:uiire State, and a strong supporter j of President Grant's administration, j -!ys that Congress cannot do better; than to immediately embody in a law the suggestions of the President regard ing amnesty. J A New Weekly pair,' to be called 77tc Ttibttceo Plant, is to be started at Durham, X. C, on the 3rd of January, j devoted to the interests jf the growers'! and manufacturer's of tobacco. Sub- ! seription price $1.50 r ; annum. Ad- j Urcss C. Ii. (Jreen, Editor and Pro-j prictor. . i i j Opo.m: thin" all must be convinced j by this time. Fraud and corruption lire not confined to the Republican i.artv alone, even in North Carolina. Many prominent democrats, besides j the Public Printer, have been impli cated, and more will bo 'when the re- j port of the Fraud Committee, consist- ing of Mossrs. Shipp, liatchclor and Martin, is published. The cause is to be found in the demoralization of the titiwi: mr.ro tb:in nnylhinir else. The Republican party of the nation can j rifely challenge a tompari-on with its j rival or any party that ever had con trol of the government for so long a pe- , riod, in the honesty and integrity of ; it- administration. " " ! 31k. Lkiiman's SiKi:(Tr. Don't fail to mid the remarks of Senator Lehman, of Craven, on the public debt. Tliey will N' found on our fourth page. Mr. Ia hman is one of the ajdet and let men in the Legislature, j Jle is also a line lawyer, and Ihs views of the sub ject lie is discu--ingare entitled togreat weight. To our mind, his iosit ions are correct, and his joints well taken. We think hi- views will prevail. We have no fears that the present Legislature will levy a tax to pay the interest on the public debt, or any portion of it. Read also the remarks of Senator King, on the bill proposing amend ments to the Constitution. Tin; Skxtixki. of Tuesday is still ringing the charge of Republican per secution of (Jen. Leach. It says that -nearly every member of the party sus tains Vol. Henderson. Assuming that Henderson's object was the exposure of a prominent Ku Klirx leader, sup pose they do, don't they do right ? That Henderson bilieved that Leach had leen a memler of the Ku Klux Klan there ran be no doubt whatever, and he was right in willing to scv him exposed, if he was. We know the fact that there are those who still believe that Loach was a member, and that he joined to secure the nomination to Congress. Having given Leach a fair hearing in these columns we turn his defense over to TieS iifini f. What about the public, printing? ! Tin: EniToi: or The Skxtimil falls back uon his character for integrity as a defen.-e against the charges that are made against him. Why has he not thought of this before? ! It would have saved him the trouble of a trip to Columbia it may save him several hereafter. And we hope that, since he has discovend that character is a.Ue-ft-nse against assaults, .affecting men's integrity, he will see the necessity of ceasing such assaults Uipon others, who have always sustained a character high alx)ve any he can lay claim rto. For every body knows that, without the shadow of proof, he lias assailed the motives and integrity j of gentlemen whose boots he is unworthy to black. Their characters have protected them against the shafts of his calumny. Will he And his own character an equal protection? Can lie make the people Ulieve that he is pure alove the reach of testimony that woidd crush other men. i i Tun err. lac have henrd the cry of LittlelU Id's corruption,1 until they be gan to suppose that it came from a un-e above reproach. They haveU-en told that Tin: Kka was published in an office erected 'from his plunder. Rut he who told them so has never told them that The Sentinel was pur chase by money obtained from the on ly man in the State whose reputation fir curruption .surpassed" that of Little field. He has failed to tell them that Swepson subsequently loaned the edi tor of that paier $.,00U, for which he asked and took no security. And he will fail to tell them now that the edi tor of that paper has received several thousand dollars from the State Treas ury, the fruits of as foul a fraud as Lit tletieldwas ever guilty of. He will fail to denounce that fraud. Having denounced all the frauds of Littlcfield and company, we now denounce the present fraud by which the editor of The Sentinel, or his agents, drew from the Treasury several thousand dollars of the people's money, to which he had no more right than Swepson and Lit tlcfield had to their ill-gotten gains. It may be said that the State will be saved'harmlcss in the end, but this ia no defense. I le tiever would have refund ed, or accounted for it, if not compelled. , i '' , i .. ".-! ; ! J . " Vol 1. , ; RALEIGH, N. C, THURSDAY, DECEMBER 21, 1871. j No. 29. , -witMlHIII HIW HI HI WJ ' U-iMnirrlHIl M t lIF I II 11 I ll' I " 3 ' i ,1J . it J THE PRINTING FRAUD. Evidence taken before the Fra u d Com m ission (Messrs Shipp, Martin and Batch el or) on the subject of the Pa blia Prin ting. IIo.v. Josiaii Ti'kxkr, appeared be fore the Commission, and subn itted the following statement, which was sworn to and subscribed before the Commission : Q. What do you know about the' State printing? A. I have no' poeti cal knowledge of the business of print ing. When the State Printing was to be put out, I requested my Associate Editor, Mr. J. II. Moore, to bid for the same for The Sentinel, in his name,' He did so, and gave bond to execute the same. I relied upon Mr. Moore's Judg ment aliout the contract. Mr. Moore severed his connection with The )Senti net soon after the contract was entered into. Mr. JbhiW. Marconi, the fore man in The SoHinel office, measured the work, which was approved by the printers appointed by the Auditor of the State, as I understood. 1 did not know until recently how the work was measured, nor did I know the differ ence between in and em euad. (The liookkeeper of The Sentinel, Mr. Theo. X. Ramsay, has received about $10, :..1)1. 1 am not cognizant of any fraud or cheat in the matter, nor do I believe there has been any. Josiaii Turxeu, Jit. Sworn to and subscribed before the Commission. J. (J. Maiitix, Commissioner. Mk. Joiix XunoLs was examined, ami testified : Q. What is your occupation? iA. I am a printer one of the firm of Xichols fc Ciorman, Rook and Job Printers, in the city of Raleigh. Q. Do you kuow anything of the con tract for the public printing for the year lsTc'Tl? A. Nothing at all. Q. Are you acquainted with the rules of counting printed work, and what is the difference between the various modes of computation, to-wit,; by the letter in, the em quad, and the cap. 31? A. I am acquainted with what 1 have always understood to be the mode of measuring printing matter, viz : by the em quad., that is, a square of the type in which the matter is printed, i The difference between the lower case m, the cap. M, and the em quad., will vary according to the types all types not being made by the same standard. In the tvpe usuallv used in our office for the Public Printing, 1 think the differ ence is about one-filth as between the lower case m and the em quad.," when the letter in is counted one way only. If counted both ways, I think the dif ference would be from one-fourth, to one-third. I have examined a page of the laws, in the presence of the Com mission, and find the width of the page, to be .'U ems by the lower case letter m, and 2-11 em quad, and the length to be G2 ems bv the letter m and ol ems by the em q'uad., making the number of ems in each page, if counted both ways bv the letter m to.be 1,92; if counted by the em'quad. to be 1,300 ems that is for the large print, not including the side notes. The regular price paid to printer here is Ty) cents per thousand ems, counted by the em quad. ! Q. Were vou a bidder for the Public Printing at 'the iast session of the Leg islature? A. My recollection is that a committee was appointed to contract for the Public Printing, and no bid was invited from us. We would have bid for the work, had an opportunity! been offered. , ! . Q. Do you know what was parti to the Public Printer, previous to the year 1S70? A. I have understood it to be one dollar per thousand ems. 1 Joiix Nichols. Sworn to and subscribed before the Commission. j Mn. J. II. Muokk, appeared before the Commission, and submitted the following statement in writing, which was duly-sworn to and subscribed le fore t he Com mission : When the Committee on Printing was appointed by the General Assem bly, Session lSTO-'Tl, I was acting as Secretary, Associate Editor and i Busi ness Manager of TIe Sentinel office, and Mr. Turner, the Proprietor, requested me to see the Committee, make appli cation for the Public Printing, and, if successful, to arrange the matter with the Committee in my own name. I met the Committee two or three times, and finally contracted with them for the printing at eighty-seven and a half cents per thousand for composition and the same per token for press work, and the binding at exactly the prices charg ed by DeCartret & Armstrong, except in one class that of the paper binding which was put a few cents higher by the hundred. ; Two clavs after this contract was agreed on between the Committee and myself in behalf of The Sentinel, Mr. Maunev came to mv residence and told me that he had been talking with sev eral members of the Legislature and others on the subject of the printing, and he was of the opinion or that others were .of the opinion that the prices were too high; and that they could not sustain themselves before the tax-pavers of the State if they paid the prices agreed on, especially as j other parties were saving it could be done cheaper. I told Mr. Mauney that I had put the prices as low as the work could be done for, to do justice to thej office and to the journeymen printers of tho citv and that Ijdid not feel willing to undertake to do the work atprices that would neither remunerate the printers . nor the contractor. I agreed, however, to meet the Committee the next day and talk the matter over again. ' On the next day, I met several mem bers of the Committee in the clerk's office of the Senate chamber, when some of them not all urged a reduction irj the prices that had previously been agreed on. Finally,! proposed; to do the press work for seventy-five cents per token, and the composition at seventy-five cents per thousand ems: One of the Committee asked me what I meant by the "thousand ems," j and I told him I meant the space that would be occupied by one thousand letter M's. The Committee acceded to the terms, the contract and obligation were drawn up and. signed by the Committee at last by the Chairman of each branch of it and by myself in behalf of The Sen tinel office. I will here state, that I had not one cent of interest in the transaction that I have never measured nor seen meas ured a page of the matter have never presented an account or received a cent of money on account of the Public Printing and never expect to. I sim Yly jfeted for TJie Sentinel office in the matter, ami tried to act justly to the office and to the State in the matter. s- . I will father state, that measuring printed matter by the letter M instead of the emquadrate is nothing new in printing offices. I believe that at one time it was the only method. I have, in conducting a printing office, as often measured by the letter M an by the emquadrate. There is some advantage in measuring by the M in some fonts of type in others very little if any. It was because of this advantage that I proposed to measure by the M, when the Committee insisted on a reduction of the pfrice agreed on at first. In meas uring matter in type there is no difference-, between that measured by the letter M and the em- quadrate if they are both measured from the nick to the back, aiid that, as 1 understand it, is the proper mode of measuring the depth of a page of printed matter, and not by the number of ems as they run to maxe up a line. I have never known matter in type measured both ways by jme , measurement, when there was a difference between the width and depth of the letter or the quad. The depth must be the same in both the letter and the quad, in order to justify. I believe the only difference in measuring a page of matter by the letter M and the em quadrate would be in the length of the tlines and not from the top to the bot tom of the page, if properly measured. I James II . Moo re. , Mk. J. W. Maiicom appeared, was sworn and testified : Q. Are you a practical printer, and in what office are you employed? A. I am, and am employed in Tlie Sentinel office. I have been in the printing business since the year 18.53. ' Q. Were you engaged in making up the accounts of the Public Pr.nter for 1870-'71, and what mode of measure ment was adopted ? A. lam foreman of the office, and measured under instructions to meas ure by the letter m. I was informed that that wns to be the standard of measurement under the contract, and was so informed the same day I under stood the contract was signed. Mr. Moore so informed me. He stated at the same tin)e that this was the under standing between him and the Com mittee on Public Printing. - Q: What is the usual mode of meas urement? A. I do not know positive ly, as this is the first time I have been engaged in measuring. The Typo graphical Society requires payment to be made by the em quad, at oO cents per thousand ems. I have been inform ed that some Public Printers, in par ticular W. W. Holden, were paid by the letter m. - Q. If you can, explain the difference in the modes of counting by the em quad., the letter m and the capital M. A. The. number of each letter required to make up a line of the printed mat ter is the standard. Then the number of letters in the line multiplied by the number of lines in a page give the number of the letters in the page, law measure. It requires 31 letters m for a lino of law measurei of em quads, for the same, and 28 capital M's. 25i -Would be counted as 2G. Jxo. W. Maiicom. Sworn and subscribed before the ICommssion. : Mr. JosErii A. Harris swore that he ''.copied ; the contract. While en gaged in doing so, Mr. Moore informed me that he had made a spec ial agreement with the Committee on Printing on the part of the Legislature to count by the letter m. I know nothing more about the special contract, except. what was stated to mq by Mr. Moore." MnJ S. Mj Parkisii was called sworn and testified: Q. Are you a practical printer, and have you been called upon to examine the accounts of the Public Printer for this last year? If so, state by" whom, and give the Committee such informa tion as you may have in reference to the same. A. I am.a practical printer, I was called upon by Mr. Roberts, who was then a clerk in the Auditor's of fice, to assist him in the examination of these accounts, and did so in con junction with him up to the time of his leaving the city. Mr. Gilbert has since been joined with me in the examina tion by request of Dr. Menninger, Sec retary of State. I began to examine the accounts in connection with Mr. Roberts, beginning February, 1871, and continued up to sometime in Septem ber, i when Mr. Roberts left, and we certified to the correctness, of the ac counts during that period. We made the calculation of the accounts, as they were presented to us, making the cal culations and examining the matter charged for, as stated to me by Mr. Roberts, according to his statement of the number of ems contained in a page. After Mr.; Roberts left, an account was handed me containing some, minion. To ascertain the number of ems in a page, it was necessary for me to go down to Tlit Sentinel office, when the foreman proceeded to show me the number of ems by setting up a line of lefwer cased ems. This being a new feature to me in the measure of matter. I enquired of him if the other bills had been made out in the same way by the letter m. He told me they had, and that he was ordered to make them out that way by Mr. Moore. I proceeded no furtlier with the examination of the bill in hand, and wrote a letter to the Auditor, informing him of the sup posed error. ' The letter was returned to mo with a request that I should send it to the Secretary of State, as he was the prop er person, which I did, and he request ed me to get some disinterested prac tical printer to assist me in the exam ination. Two or three days after I met with Mr. Gilbert, a practical printer, who kindly consented, and has assisted me ever since. We went to The Senti nel office and examined the type and ascertained the number of ems there were in a page by the letter m and the em quad, measure both. Mr. Turner suggested that we inform Mr. Moore of our business, and request him to be present. AVe then proceeded to the of fice of the Auditor, where we exam ined the contract. I then wrote Mr. Moore :a letter asking him if he desired to be present at the examination of the account, requesting; if so, to indicate the same, and we could meet at the Auditor's office any afternoon he might appoint. Mr. Moore was absent from the city at the time. When he return ed, he i met me on the street, and in formed me that he had received my note, and that it was his understanding with the "Committee, with whom the contract was made, that he was to charge by the thousand letter m's. I then called on Mr. i Gilbert, when he and myself called at, the Auditor's of fice, got the bills and examined the same and certified to it by the em quad, measure. Since then, such bills for printing as have been handed us have been certified ! in the same way. The difference between the em quad, and the letter m mode of computation, is, that the em quad, is a square equal in size to the body of the type, and while the m is the size of the letter it self, and consequently taking up less space, and making a difference of some thing between one-third and one fourth. The m h:i printing is the em quad., and is the measurement under which printers are usually paid. The measurement I made in The Sentinel office, was of the matter of the Supreme Court reports, then; being published, and I measured by em quad., making 13T0 to the page counted both ways. I have examined a page, law meas ure, in the presence of the Commission, and find that there are 2G em quad, in line, and 31 lower case letter m, meas uring the page perpendicularly, I find 51 em quad., making 132G to the page, and by the lower case m 31 across the page and G2 perpendicular, making 1922 to the page. I Upon being recalled and hearing the evidence of Mr. Nichols. I concur with him in his statements with the difference,1 that I allow 26 em quad, to the line while he makes it 2oK (Signed) S. M. Parrish. Sworn to and subscribed before the Commission. Mr- Ramsay swore that the whole amount received up to this time for printing has been about $10,338.71, ex clusive of about $-3,000 paid John Arm strong for binding. ; E VIDE JVC E taken before the .Legislative Conim it tee to investigate the j natter of the Public Printing. C. AV. Bkoadfoot; i being duly sworn, says : Q. State what was; the contract made with the Public Printer, if you know it, and what mode of computation was agreed upon with the Printer, with whom the contract was jnacle, and all you may know about? A. When ap pointed unon the Committee I knew nothing of the different modes of com putation, and acted unon tlie sugges- tion at Messrs. :ie ioIs v& Gorman in reply to an enquiry addressed them by mvself. which is herewith filed. The Committee made a (contract with Mr. Moore, and afterwards it was modified at the suggestion of Mr. Mauney. I think the contract Was silont as to the mode of counting, but my understand ing was, that the made most favorable to the State was to be adopted. I know that one mode wasj suggested by Mr. Moore, and not entertained by the Committee. The contract was made alone with Mr. Mocjre. Do not think anv one else appeared before the Com mittee; but Mr. Tutner said that Mr. Moore represented him, and that he, Turner, knew nothing about the mat ter or how to compute. I knew noth ing about printing, and insisted that everything should be fciirly done in good' faith. The first contract, accord ing to my recollection, was , not reduc ed to writing, and only differed from the second in the rates of charging. (Signed,) C. W. Bkoadfoot. Hen ryT. JoRD.!bcingduly sworn, says: ! o. State whether !vou were a mem ber of! the Committee to contract for the Public Printing; I if so, with whom was the contract made; what mode of counting was adopted ; and the price to be paid for the jwork ? A. I was one of the Committee. The contract was made alone with Jas. H. Moore ; Mr. Turner said he knew nothing of practical printing, and loft everything to Mr. Moore. Mr. Moore, in reply to a question, said that in America, the letter in was taken as the unit of meas urement, but; it was different in Eng land. "' Mr. Moore mentioned two kinds of measurement, bejok measurement and some other, I do Snot recollect what lie called it. He said that every Public Printer except Mr. tPell counted by book measurement, cjnd that he would measure every line ajnd ! piece of a line by the lineal measurement. We bound him to charge only by the lineal meas urement of his work ; this part was not reduced to writing, I think. Tlie Com mittee, after having. made a contract, afterwards, at the suggestion of Mr. Mauney, had Mr. Mtore before them and altered the contract, by reducing the prices. I don't Recollect whether the conversation about the different modes of computing) was held at the time the first contract was made, or when the second was. The contract was, that the measurement was to be vv ho, lptf or m. and not the word em. If there is a difference; bet wren the two, it was not mane Know u. (Signed.) Hery T.Jordan. E. Cro well being duly sworn and pxamined. savs: That I was a member of the Commit tee, and made the contract witn iur. Moore alone. My understanding was, that there was two modes of counting, and that the one most favorable to the State was to be adoptdd. I think this cqnverition was understood when both contracts were made, j I had no knowl edge of the different modes of counting. I remember that Mr. (Moore offered to take the contract at our lowest fixures if we would let him count tho most ex pensive way, but do not know what wasj the way. This proposition was re fused. I do not know; whether the two ways were by book or em measure or not- My final understanding was that he took the contraot at the lowest price, and Mr. Moore said it would be hard bargain. !E. Crowe ll,. R. P. Waring being duly sworn, says: I jwas one of tlie Committee, and made the contract with Mr. Moore, as the representative of the Sentinel office. The Committee made an agreement, which was not reduced to writing first, and then afterwards, modified it. My recollection wes, that it was modified at the suggestion of Mr. Mauney. Mr. Moore stated that the letter m was the American mode of counting, because it was an average letter, and that n was the English mode, being a small letter, and that the difference in the two modes' was about double, n costing most. I think the mode of countingg was men tioned at both conferences. Mr. Moore stated that if book measure was adopt ed, he could afford to take the contract at much lower figures. I did not hear, or do npt remember, anything about measuring by rule or lineal measure ment ; whether the different measure ment by book or not was mentioned. I said I would sign no contract which purported to be at one price, and count by a measure entirely different; that I wanted the contract to express exactly what it was. So far as the measure ment by m, or em quad, if mentioned, I do not recollect anything about it, but I insisted upon what was called a lair and square count, upon the manner usual in the printing office. That the same mode of counting was to bo adopt ed in his count against the State as that by which he paid his hands. This was my understanding. Don't know wheth er Mr. Moore, or the other members of the Committee, so understood it ; prac tically I know nothing of the different modes of counting, but I am certain that the understanding was that the mode most favorable to the State was to be adopted, and Mr. Moore, when the contract was made, said: "It is a hard bargain, and I doubt if it will pay expenses ! ' ' There was no difference i n the mode of counting when the con tract was made the second time, but onlp a reduction in price. The written contract is the exact one made by the Committee, and was not to be modified afterwards, to my knowledge or con sent. , R. P. Waring. V. Mauney being duly sworn, says: That I was Chairman of the Joint Committee on Printing, I notified Mr. Turner that we were ready to contract for the public printing, and if he wish ed to take it, he must come up and ap ply. Mr. Turner stated he knew noth ing about practical printing, but would send his local, Mr. Moore to make a contract and that it was for the benefit of The Sentinel office. Mr. Moore met the1 Committee and offered to take the contract at the following price: 00 cts. thousand ems or m's (for plain work,) 1.80 figure and rule work, 75 cts.i press work. I stated that the bid was too high. Mr. I Rroadfoot then read the letter from Nichols and Gor man, which letter was read and is here with exhibited. I still insisted that the rates of the letter were too high: Mr. Moore stated, there were two kinds 'of counting; that he could afford to take it, if allowed to count as The Standard had, for a less rate. I don't recollect how this mode was. I think he explained the different modes, but I paid no attention to it, being inform ed that no one but a practical printer could understand it. Mr. Moore said that he did not wish to count that way, that the mode used by The Standard had been used only a short time in the State, a motion was then made to adopt the prices in Nichols and Gor man's letter and was consented to by Moore and a majority of the Committee by i vote, agreed to it. This was the first contract; it was not reduced to writing; I did not consent to this and so notified the Committee at the time. There was another meeting of the Committee, Mr. Moore being present. Mr. Moore said at that meeting when I Expressed dissatisfaction with the terms of the former contract, that he could do it for much less rates if allow ed to count as The Standard office did, and then said he would be very will ing to take the contract at 75cts per thousand ems or m's if allowed to count in that way but I think he said he did not wish to count in that way. It was suggested. bv someone, I don't remem ber whom, that the Committee permit the1 count to be in that way. Mr. War ing dissented at once, and said he would not sign the contract ; this appeared to be the general sentiment. I then pro posed the terms of the written contract as i signed and Mr. Moore accepted them, but said it was a mighty hard bargain. I have no recollection of going to see Mr. Moore about the con tract at his house ; I did go to see him on another matter after the contract was made, when the matter was men tioned, but I think nothing was said about varying the terms of the con tract. I don't recollect to have heard anything about the quad, em, but I know the count was to be the same in both contracts and different from what we, the Committee understood to have ben the rule in The Standard office when it had the Public Printing, the change was only in: the price. The count was to be the one most favorable to I the State, I understood that the written contract was exactly as the Committee made it with Mr. Moore, and has not been m od i tied to m y k no wl edge or consent. j (Signed,) V. Mauney, IL Adams, Auditor, having been duly sworn, says: j I did not appoint any one to examine the accounts of the Public Printer, I know no law authorizing me to do so. Mr. Roberts wa a Clerk in my office, but was not appointed to examine the Public Printer's account by me. Mr. Roberts had been living in the city for n W!ir. nrohablv two. he (Roberts) was guilty of forgery upon the Public Treas ury, anu nas leu . ine rsiaie. m? accounts audited in my office, were certified to by two practical printers before audited, to the best of my recol lection. : . (Signed,) II. Adams. James II. Moore tieing duly sworn, when on motion, his statement was read over to him as taken by the Com mittee to investigate frauds, and the same was adopted as a part of his ex amination. In addition to that, he states that lie proposed to the Committee not to count any matter but what was absolutely necessary to set up a necessary form for printing the matter, and not to count the other blank pages. Q. Was it your understanding when you made the contract with the Com mittee for the Public Printing that you were to count by the letter m, and not by the em quad ? A. It was ; ami I, in consequence thereof, instructed the foreman of the office, Mr. Marconi, to count in that way. Q. Without any understanding at all, what computation would you use when these words were used to express the contract: "For all plain work, seventy-five cents per thousand ems?" A. I would understand it the common way now used by printers, viz : Km quadrate. Q. 'Was the difference In the meas urement .by. the letter m and the em quadrate explained to and understood by the Committee at the time of mak ing the contract? A. I thought it tas understowl for the reason because 1 was asked by one of the Committee what I meant by the measurement of the letter m, and I explained it at that time. : . Q. Did you at either of the confer ences explain book "measurement as heretofore used by other Public Print ers, and make or have any understand ing about a change in that mode, if so, what change did you agree to make? A'. I did; and agreed to count only for what was necessary to set-up the print ed matter or form, and not to count I what was unnecessary insetting up the iorm. Q. Did you furnish the Committee with a memorandum of the contract, and if so, did it state the letter m, or ems? A. I don't recollect whether I furnished a memorandum as last agreed on or not. J 1 Q. Did you furnish Judge Merrimon with one? A. I reckon I did, as he drew up the contract. Q. In that did you use the letter m or ems? A. I don't remember, and it is immaterial which I used, for I as of ten use one as the other, and mean the same thing. This is my habit. There was no understanding that the count should be different from the written contract. I understand the written contract to mean just what our verbal understanding, as explained, did. Q. Was there any understanding be tweeni yourself and Mr. Turner as to the language of the contract and the mode of computing the matter? A. There was not. 1 don't think Mr. Tur ner knew any more about the modes of computing printed matter than any one entirely ignorant of printing or printing offices, and when the Commit tee proposed to reduce the price from what was first agreed upon, I was in structed by Mr, Turner to take the printihg any how, even if he got noth ing. - Q. Do you know the mode of com putation used by Littlefield when Prin ter to the State; and' thexither Public Printers? A. I do not know what computation was used by Littlefield, but The Standard, where I was famil iar, always counted by the .letter m ; so did Mr. Poll, until some question was raised, and he then counted by the em quadrate. I think the. price has been since the war one dollar higher per thousand. This contract made by me is the lowest one ever made to my knowledge. ; ! (Signed,) , James H.;Moork. Josiaii Turner having been duly sworn, and had read over to hiiii his evidence taken by the Fraud Commit tee, says that same, with the correction made, is correct.; Q. Did you, or any one in your office, to your knowledge, or by your request, or "at your suggestion, have Roberts, the Auditor's Clerk, appointed as one of the practical printers to pass upon the accounts of the Public Printer. A. 1 did not. (Signed) Josiaii Turner, Jr., Theodore N. Ramsay being duly sworn, and having his evidence read over to him, and hav ing corrections made in the same, 'says that the same, as corrected, is true. Q. Who were the practical printers who examined the aecounis presented by you to the Auditor's office, and by whorn were they appointed ? A. Mr. S. M. Parrish and" IL II. Roberts. Mr. Roberts was the Principal Clerk. in the Auditor's office, and did ail tlie woric in the office in the absence of Mr. Ad ams. I don't know by whom they were anpointed. (Signed) ; Tiieo. N. Ramsay, John C. Gorman being duly sworn, says: i : ' . j Q. What computation would you use upon the examination ol tne contract here handed you? A. By the em quad. Q. Did your office do for the Public Printer, any of the work, and what com nutation 'used? A. It did. We counted by the em quad., but I don't know whetner we received tlie money directly from the Sentinel office, or from the Treasury, but we allowed the Pub lic Printer 15 per cent, for the reports. Q. Have, you ever superintended the State Printing, and if so for whom, and how did you charge? A. I did for W. E. Pell, and for a little while for my self, and charged by the em quad., and I know of no other mode having been counted. . Q. Do you know the mode used by the Public Printer in imo ? A. I know from bills in the Auditor's office, he charged by the em quad. I Q. Do you know the mode used by the present Public Printer? A. By bills in the Auditor's office lie charges by the letter m. Q. What is the standard of measure ment used by printers in this city? A. The em quad, by all except the Senti nel, The em quad, is the general stan dard used by printers throughout, the United States. , Q. What connection have you had, if any, with the present contract of the Public Printing. A. None, except this during the last session of the Leg islature, while the matter of awarding the contract wa3 before the Legislature. I was written to as a 'proprietor and asked what I judged to be a lair price i e of -tVdvcrtisinfi; x j One square, ono time, - - $1 00' i " " two times, - - - 1 60 ! " " three times, - - - 2 00 ' 4 . . J J .1 . .1.1 --v siiiixc is me wiuin oi a column, and It inches deep. j S3- Contrac t AtlvertLseinenU taken at proportionately low rates. Professional Cnrils not exceeding 1 squaro will be published one year for ?12. to be given the Public Printer. ' My -answer is embodied in the noto before me. I happened in the House on tho morning Miy Waring made his report to the House, and heard him state that by his contract with the State Printer, , blank pages and parts of blank pages . were hot to be paid for. Fearing, my. note was not understood I interrogated Mr. Broad fyot, one of the Committee on the subject, who assured me that I was understood, and that Mr. Waring's report was properly "understood by me. I told him it was unfair to the Printer, and with that condition I would not take the contract for $2 per 1.000. ' On . leaving the Capitol! I met Mr. Moore, the contractor, who) in answer to my caution that he would loose money as per statement of Mr. Waring, he re marked that Mr. Waring's- statement K xifol de rbl. I had no other connec- ' tion with the matter The written contract shown mq is not such a one as Mr. Waringj stated to the House. (. Have vou cver contracted with the State for" the State Printing, and if so, -how did you cliarge for the same. A. Yes, for a short while, with a Leg islative Committee,, ' and. charged by the em quad., at To cts. per 1.000. Lit tlefield received 1.00 dollar per 1.000. I always charged for blank pages and parts of blank pages; . . Q. Do the bills of the present printer show the measurement, and if so, could the printers appointed to examine tho accounts presented to the Auditor, have detected an improper measurement at any time? A. If competent they could, I could. ! Q. Do you know anything about the persons who were apiointed to exam- ine the accounts of the Public Printer. : Mr. Roberts and Mr. Parrish, if so, state their) character, capacity, Ac? A. Roberts, I know nothing of, except he is charged with forgery, and is a fagitive. -Mr. Parrish is an honorable man, but I know nothing ofhisknowl- j edge of printing. '',! j Q.' Were the terms you suggested as fair and just to the Public Printer in your letter to Mr. Broadfoot, higher or ' lower than those agreed upon in tho ; written contract shown you? A. For the composition the terms as suggested by me were higher, and lower for press j work. The press work generally is about two fifths, and composition about three filths' I (Signed, .John C, Gorman. j Parrish, being. duly That the evidence read Mr. S. M. sworn, says: over to him and sworn to as taken be fore the Committee on Frauds is true. I Q. Could you have discovered the mistake of the Public Printer, In his mode of computation by the bills he presented to be audited and if so, why ; was the discovery not made sooner? A. Yes, I could have discovered the mistake, but I relied upon tho. state--' ment of 3Ir. Roberts as to the amount (if matter ahd made no examintion hf the measurement of the matter. f Q. By whom were you appoints ? A. I regard myself as appointed by the Secretary of the State, having been ap pointed by him heretofore lor mat pur- pose and had not been notineu to sio but I was requested by 'Mr.' Roberts ucijf liim in llifmsp. i b. When1 vou examined theaceouij Of Littlefield and Jos. Holden, wH liieasuremcnt did you use?? A. I i.iea nrivl by f h em ouad. 1 (). Have vou measured and examin ed and approved the several accoun of the Public Printer since Sept., h the cm quad, measurement.' bnve. iointlv. with Mr. Gilbert. I - - - - 7 . I7' . -. , - (Signed,) s. aM.'I'aiikish. N. B. BnouciiTON being duly sworn and examined, says : Q. Are you a practical printer, and have vou been employed in any of the leading offices of this city ? A. I am a' practical printer, and have worked in all the leading offices of this city. (I. What would be the difference iji tlie price of a page in the Journals of the Legislature, 1st, n't 70 cents nor thousand per letter m, and at one dol lar per thousand by the em quad? A. lido not know; I have always compu ted by the em quad. ' iQ. Has the general rule been in all the offices in which you have worked to fonnmtc in that way ? i A. i es, sn r . . - . (Signed,) i. iHtorinTo.., 4- John W. Maroim being duly s worn and examined, says: ' 1 ' I . j j I That tlio evidence sworn to 1 and signed by ine, before tho I Commission j on Fraud-, is true. I ! J Q. Were you instructed or directed at any time, 'by Mr. Turner, to count in. any particular way, and were you re quired to-report to him the amount of matter printed for the State,.and if not did he superintend the printing, and know by his own .knowledge or by re lort of any of his employees, the amount of matter? A., I was .never in structed bv Mr. Turner in any way.' Jl did not report to him. The whole matter was left to myself and the book keeper, Mr. Ramsay. Q. Are you informed whether the Public Printer charges for blank pages ' and parts of blank pages, wjiich are in the Jaws of last session. A. All neces sary blank pages are charged ; but only charged when the form was set up. lo. Arc you. foreman ol the Looic Department in .The Sntinel office. I m:ii. t. Q. Werp journeymen employed ny the piece or the thousand m's. A. 1.1 is the same thing. 1 IQ. By what mode of measurement were they! paid. A. By the em quad: but I have received payment by the Iqtter m in this city. The Union re quires printers. to be paid now by the ern quad, i . jQ. Could tne mode oi computation u.fcd have counts by time. A. tvne. Ac. been discovered from the aci practical printers at any Not without examining the (Signed) John W. Marcom. Won't teli.. We said that there were certain things The Sentinel would not tell its readers. We knew it would not. It has copied our article ant omitted tliat portion of it. Its readers wpuld much rather have seen the whole of our article than the asterisl- gj which Tiel Sentinel substituted for poi tibnsofit. But they will never see ic in that paper. ( i
The Era (Raleigh, N.C.)
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