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SUNDAY, DECEMBER 11, 1904.
If the information given out be true
the St. Louis Fair was a record break
er it paid expenses..
It is a "settled fact that If Mr. Car- j The boast of the Baptists from time
cegle dies a poor man, Mrs. Chad wick , lrrmernorial has been the largest pos
.xvill not aid or abet in such result, j sible freedom for the individual. Liber-
The
Crumpackerism
U1 ocntlur
4 C
P.att resembles a frozen dish-rag-
hanging on a
rusty nail outside the
lialr Vitfhon Hnnr
English nobility searching for Am- i
trican wives might properly be dis
cussed under the caption: "Mathemat
ics in Matrimony."
' Well, we suppose Mr. Fairbanks will
continue drawing his salary as United
States senator until his name is trans-
ferred to the vice-presidential pay-
roH.
The esteemed , Washington Post is
perturbed over the fact that every
exhibit it saw at St. Louis, was tag
ged: "First Gold Medal." Well, why
not, as it was such a howling finan
cial success?
Klsewhere this morning we print
the full report of the board of educa
tion udonted by the Methodist co
leroi'.ce at Henderson last Monday.
That part dealing with the Greensbo
ro Female College situation is espec
ially interesting.
In response to the announcement
that the people of North' Carolina have
determined to put an end to the sa
loon and still power for evil in the
etate, the Spartanburg Herald asks;
'What are the people of North Car- I
clina going to do?'" Eh? What has
become- of that great moral institu
tion, the dispensary?
' There was much able preaching at
the late Methodist conference at Hen
derson, including the Sunday sermon
by Bishop Candler; but it is the al
most unanimous opinion of those who
were fortunate enough to hear it that
the eermon by Dr. John C. Kilgo, Sun-
day night on "The Love of God" was ,
the most powerful of them all.
The American Cotton Manufactur
er, published at Charlotte, Is one of
the finest and most enterprising jour
nals of Its class printed in the United
States. It is constantly alive and
wide-awake to every phase of the cot
ton and cotton textile situation in
the world, and is edited with discrim
inating judgment and marked ability.
" -j tra .
Mrs. Chadwick's son is said to be
the possessor of $7,500,000 and a deter-
mination not to endorse checks for
members of his family, saj-s the Wash
ington Post, it doesn't seem there
was any use for such a determination
as far as his mother was concerned,
for she appears to have experienced
no difficulty in getting plenty of others
to tndorse for her.
THE BAPTIST CONVENTION
"Easily the best year in Baptist his
tory." This is the song of triumph and
thanksgiving -which echoes from ths
treat Baptist state convention in ses
sion at Elizabeth City. Progress all
alonar the line, says the report, a net
gain of 5.CC0 in church membership, an
increase in contributions until these
voluntary gifts for convention objects
reached the stupendous sum of $111,000
last year.
Peculiarly appropriate it is that this
paean of praise and rejoicing, laden
"With renewed consecration and re
doubled zeal in the service of the Mas
ter, should ascend from this devout
body while in session at Elizabeth City,
near the old Shiloh church, where the
Baptists made their puny beginning in
North Carolina almost 200 years ago.
'Tis a notable coincident that the two
numerically strongest denominations in
the state should hold' their annual gath
erings this year in the presence of their
most ancient respective landmark's.
The North Carolina Methodist Confer
ence enjoyed its love feast in Hender
son, a few miles distant from the his
toric Green Hill house, where this con
ference was first organized a century
and a quarter ago. The militant Bap
tist hosts, now gathered together in
the heart of the old parent Chowan As
sociation, are likewise in the presence
of a sacred memorial, as it were, to
which the children of today can be
pointed' with the admonition "That the
people of the earth might know the
hand of the Lord, that it is might y;
that ye might fear the Lord your God
for ever."
"When Xorth Carolina was but a feeble
colony, her population sparcely scat
tered along the coast territory, Paul
Palmer, a "Welsh Baptist from Dela
ware, ' pushed his way southward
through this wilderness preaching the
word of God. This pioneer missionary,
In 1725, organized the Shiloh Baptist
church, In Camden county, hardly five
miles from the present site of Eliza
beth City, now the flourishing metro
polls of north eastern Carolina. And
from this small start, 179 years ago,
what a glorious record this aggressive
body of Christians have made, not on
ly in development of a noble manhood
and womanhood In the rich Albemarle
section, but in the promotion of all
that is noblest and best in the citizen
ship of their state and nation! In every
fight for individual liberty and higher
living they have borne their full brunt
in the contest.
denslan Baptists cherished this spirit
ln the mountain fastnesses of France-
thp ormnn -RnHQtc 0T.iv,0
!...
j stake for freedom of conscience; their
Brethren in England died the death of
martyrs rather than surrender their
convictions; John Bunyan's mind was !
. . , , ;
-illumined by the same spirit when he ;
gave the world Pilgrim's Progress from
his prison cell; John Milton caught this i
inspiration when he wielded his gifted !
pen m behalf of the principles of this !
lowly sect; PwOger Williams in the new j
j world Interpreted the same spirit when
'hPfoiinflPdBhnrtP wanfl th. !
lum for those persecuted for conscience
sake.
. Freedom has been their watchword
for centuries. In the backwoods of Vir
j ginia, an obscure little Baptist church,
governed absolutely by a majority vote j
of the church membership, furnished
Thomas Jefferson with his plan for a
purely democratic government. At the
dawn of the last centurj-, when the
battle was fiercest between federalism
and democracy for supremacy in this
country, the B3pti?ts were found al-
j most to a man on- the side of the great
; commoner. When Jefiersi-n was reviiad
.as a demagogue by the aristocratic
; cla&s ir. America and denounced as a
."blasphemer of his Saviour" by
the
ultra-Puritans of New England, the
! -North Carolina Baptists were welcom-
'"o wiui joy as me apostle of a
wider individual liberty. The reso- j
. , 1,1. i i i . . .
iuuon adopted a century ago by the
Chowan Baptist Association, in which
th Elizabeth City church and the old
Shiloh .- church are located, and ad
dressed to President Jefferson are
printed in another column and is a val
uable contribution to the history of the
state. In the light of history the de-
nomination may well feel proud of the
comment of Voltaire tu t..
atheist, "The Baptists laid open that
dangerous truth that mankind are all
born equal."
Eleven j'ears ago the Baptists held
their previous convention in Elizabeth
City. In 1892 the state was passing
through a period of great financial de
pression and bitter political warfare.
Wise men, viewing the public distress,
advised caution; not a few recommend
ed retrenchment in collections. But
even in that dark hour a forward step
was'taken. It was decided to build the
Baptist University for Women, mak
ing it an independent school instead of
converting Wake Forest College in
to a coeducational institution. Ths
wisdom of the course adopted
no one now doubts. A mag-
Jnlflcent college for women stands
xma strsimm
in this city, overflowing with students,
working out a noble mission; a monu
ment to brave hearts and steady hands;
a lasting memorial to consecrated men
and women who darsd to . hope and
trust and work. What a difference at
the collections now and ten years ago:
1894.
14,332.62
6,916.92
2,538.88
1904.
30,000.00
18,807.00
8,649.00
400.00
61,400.00
3,605.00
1,828.00
State missions .. ....
Foreign missions.. ..
Home missions .. ..
Orphanage buildings.
Orphanage buildings.
Aid fund
Ministerial relief .. ..
Education
Baptist Women Uni
versity
Wake Forest
Ministerial education
Yates College
Miscellaneous .. ..
559.95
9S0.55
3.153.75
13,000.00
7,000.00
S.G05.00
627.00
600.00
$38,420.12 $111,863.00
And this report does not tell of the
rebuilding of the seminary at Oxford by
Prof. F. P. Hobgood, of the enlarged
work of the Chowan Institute by Prof.
John C. Scarborough at Murfreesboro,
of the handsome alumni building at
Wake Forest for which Prof. J. B. Car
lyle is raising funds, and of the noble
work of the chain of mountain schools
being constantly extended. The value
of church buildings are never taken in
to account by the Baptists, neither is
the fruits of the toil of 126 missionaries
in destitute sections of the state fully
set forth. Indeed the year has been
glorious and The Post congratulates the
Baptists of North Carolina.
Next year this great body will meet
with the baptist Tabernacle of this
city and Rev. Jasper C. Massee will be
the pastor-host. The convention is to
be congratulated on coming to this ag
gressive, zealous church and the people
of the capital city will all join in giv
ing the delegates and visitors a warm
welcome.
WHERE THE SOUTH IS WRONG
The Washington Post sees and en
joys a certain degree of humor in the
situation in regard to an attempt to
reduce southern representation, but
is afraid the attitude of Mr. Williams,
of Mississippi, Mr. Carmack, of Ten
nessee, and others may result in spoil
ing the pretty rumpus the "amusing
enterprise" as the Post facetiously
terms it. The Post thinks the whole
thing would fall flat and expire of in
anition if no one noticed it. We con
cur with that view and are glad to
know that our senators view the
thing calmly and decline to become
excited over it. The Post writes
a spicy vien as follows:
in
Senator Piatt, of New York, seems
to have put the finishing touch upon
an already ridiculous discussion we
I " . v
refer to the proposed reduction of ren-
I resentation in congress under the
' fourteenth amendment. It was ab-
! SUrd
fmoiie-h Ytpfnrti Clc-nornl laifar
j of Ohio, had himself sent to congress
: as the consecrated champion of re-j
Auction. Mr. Williams, of Mississippi,
prechd tne vlrtue and utility ' of or-
ganized reproach wanted southern !
representatives affected by the agita-.l
tion to hold aloof, refuse their salar-s
ies and Parade, in forma pauperis, by
way of maki"e the Republicans j
' ashamed Of thP.mSPlvPS. TVTr: Tnrrpll '
of Pennsylvania. hn nkn tnn
the game, but his proposition isn't as!
funny as Mr. Piatt's, because he hints
at some sovt of Preliminary investi-
gation, where as the New York states-
man takes everything for granted and
trims down southern representation I
with a single motion. j
Meanwhile, Messrs. Crumpacker :
and Gillett, the real pioneers in this
amusing enterprise, are whollv over-
looked, which shows that Rasselas, the ,
Jrmce of Abyssinia, was wiser than
all of us put together when he warn
ed his generation against the vanities.
What perplexes us, however, is the
simplicity of the southern leaders in
lending themselves to this astonish
ing comedy. The spectacle is touch
ing enough. We admire it immensely.
Here are certain Republican gentle
men who think it worth their while
to broach a controversy in which they
have nothing to lose and everything
to gain, but which would fall first and
expire of Inanition if no one noticed
it.
Hero, also more's the pity! are
certain southern gentlemen, who may
or may not see something in it for
themselves, but who cannot by any
chance see anything in it for their
section or their constituents, taking
up the quarrel and pursuing it with
novel zeal. No doubt it is a very pret
ty rumpus as it stands. The mystery,
however, is deepening with every
day. We can not understand the
motive in either case. The four
teenth amnendment is merely a re
spectable cavader. It was super
seded by the fifteenth, as anyone may
see after a careful examination of
the two. And if Messrs. Crumpacker, !
Glllett, Piatt, Morrell, want to tilt at
windmills, why should Messrs. Wil-
liams, Carmack, and so on, try to
spoil a sport so innocent? j
But the south- is especially unfortu- I
nate in this, because the southern i
leaders have so promptly and ingen- j
iously assumed that any attack upon!
unjust suffrage laws must needs refer j
to that particular section. The south
were much better advised if it took ,
the Republicans in the case as min- j
isters of purest ga$'ety. j
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I
One of the most entertaining and
enjoyable features of the Methodist
conference at Henderson was the ad
dress on "conference reminiscences"
Saturday night by Rev. A. D. Betts, D.
D., "Uncle Betts" as everybody loves
to call him. He was full of hi snh.
irt nr,ri h0u,-i i,;,, ,
" iiiniscii in a man
ner that caught and charmed his au-
dience.
fort, sttnday, December u, 1904
ss
Carolina Baptists and
North
President
(From the Raleigh Register of June 4.
1807.)
To the President of the United States.
Sir: Under Divine protection, the
Ministers and Messengers of the several
Baptist churches of the North .Carolina
Chowan Association, held at Salem, on
Nowbiggin creek, in Pasquotank coun
ty, in the district of Edenton, and state
of North Carolina, having met by ap
pointment to offer up the sacrifices of
a broken and contrite heart to the great
Author of their Being, for the un
bounded display of goodness, and ten
der mercies bestowed upon the child
ren of men; and while rendering ador
ation, prayer and thanksgiving, with
deep humility, for the great and un
speakabR gift which brought life and
immortality to light through the gospel,
they feel a profound sense of the boun
ty received by the hands of the Su
preme towards the several churches in
our connection, by the overpowering of
the Spirit upon them; not only in ef
fecting a great increase of member
but in the substantial interest of the
churches being supported and strength
ened by a very great and very uncom
mon measure of Christian love, union
and harmony among the brethren.
While we have great cause for thank
fulness for thesa bounties and mer
cies, we have felt deepest gratitude to
be due the civil and religious Liberties
we enjoy under the government, over
which you, sir, at present preside; for
which liberties our fathers have in
times past, suffered at the stake, have
bled and died.
The sense of contrast between the
present moment and a late period when
the general toleration of a free con
science in the worship of the God of
our Fathers; we have now great reason
to shout with loud acclamations of
joy and praise, that we can live under
our own vine, and under our own fig
tree in peace; and while we pray that
the sons of liberty may be long at the
helm of government, to rule and govern
these United States, we feel the strong
est emotions to bo thankful, that under
your patronage and administration
"There is none shall make us afraid."
Living under a government of our
own choice, where the rights of men
feel an equal and impartial distribu
tion, how much ought we to rejoice at
the envied happiness and freedom of
our fellow citizens throughout thesa
United States, unrivalled and unequal
led by and nation'on this list terrestlal
globe, and in the raid3t of national
wealth, prosperity and peace, added to
extent of empire under the wise policy
of your administration; we feel no dan
ger of your violating your trust, or at-
SUCCESS
i -
'two ships sail over the harbor bar,
wnn tne
flush of the morning
breeze,
And both are bound for a haven, far
j O'er the shimmering summer seas,
j With sails all set, fair wind and tide,
' Thev steer for the ODen main:
But little thev reel
of the billows
! wide, .
i E'er they anchor safe again.
There is one, perchance, e'er the sum-
mer is done,
j That reaches the port afar,
She hears the sound of the welcoming
gun
As she crosses the harbor bar.
The haven she reaches. Success, 'tis
said
Is the end of a perilous trip.
Porlianfa o'on tVia hrev.lt onrl Hat
Who sailed 'in the fortunate shin.
The other bereft of shroud and sail,
At the mercy of wind and tide,
Is swept by the might of the pitiless
gale,
'Neath the billows dark and wide,
Eut 'tis only the one in the harbor
there
That receiveth the meed of praise;
The other sailed when the morn was
fair.
And wras lost in the stormy ways.
And so to men w-ho have won renown
In the weary battle of life,
There cometh at last the victor's
crown.
Not to him who fell in the strife.
For the world recks not of those who
fail.
Nor cares what their trials are,
Only praises the ship that with swell
ing sail
Comes in o'er the harbor bar.
Marshall S. Cornwell.
BATCH OF GOOD HUMOR
He Did you succeed in having your
prize cat insured?
She Why, no; they ranted to
charge me nine times the regular rate!
Detroit Free Press.
Rich Relative I hope, Herald, you
have finished .sowing your wild oats
and have begun to follow some re
munerative employment.
Scrapegrace Nephew I have, uncle.
1 am courtin old Muntoburn's daugh-
lCi--so irmune.
tt
"Dear Fred: As you are aware, I
shall marry Mr. Gotrox this coming
week- WiU you kindly burn all the
littIe notes I have sent you? I shall
do so with yours. Good by. Ethel."
What-he wrote:
"Dear Miss Ethel: Your request
sha11 be complied with. And, by the
wa' your affianced also holds a few
ntes of mine that I wish you would
prevail upon him to let you burn with
the rest. Ever your friend, Fred."
TM Bit-
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POINTED PARAGRAPHS
(ChicagoNews.) '
No, Cordelia, the railway tie Is not
a four-in-haad.
The woman who marries for money
gets all she deserves.
Bashelors miss a lot of happiness
and escape a lot of misery. ,
Fewer women -commit suicide than
men, yet during the rush hours yon
mm
Thomas Jefferson
tempting to endanger th happiness
of the peonle who ave " cnosen you
as their chief and head. And while
our prayers and praises are due to the
Sovereign Ruler of the Universe , who
has made you an instrument in His
hands to give such blessings to such a
people, we pray that God of Battles
.r o-ivfl vmi crrace and glory, ana
that He may withhold no good thing
,
from you. Ana nuty -w.w -
Irum . . tr the
SipSS EentTlf It is His
wU that life devoted to the public
Sod SSJ tte commencement of our
prions revolution to the present day;
Say bo prolonged with blessings to
yourself and common country.
Signed by order ana on
association.
GEORGE OUTLAW, Moderator.
LEMUEL BURKITT, Clerk.
Pasquotank, May 20, 180G.
Washington, June 24, 1806.
Sir: I have duly received your ad
dress, signed by yourself on behalf of
the ministers and messengers of the
several Baptist churches of the North
Carolina Chowan Associatoin, held at
Salem Church, and I proffer my thanks
for the favorable sentiments which it
expresses towards myself personally.
The happiness which our country en
Joys in the pursuits of peace and indus
try ought to endear that course to all
its citizens, and to kindle their hearts
with gratitude to the Being under
whoso providence these blessings are
held. We owe to him especial thanks
for the right w enjoy to worship Him,
every one in his own way, and that we
have been singled out, to prove, by ex
perience, the innocence of freedom in
religious opinions andexercises, the
power of reason to rnamTain Itself
against error, and the comfort of liv
ing under laws, which assure us that,
in these things, "There is none who
shall make us afraid.
I am peculiarly gratified by the con
fidence you express that no attempt
will ever be made by me to violate the
trust reposed in me by my fellow-citi-
zens; or to endanger their happiness.
In this confidence you shall never be
disappointed. My heart never felt a
wish unfriendly to the general good of
my fellow-citizens.
Be so kind as to present my thanks
to the churches of your association,
and to assure them of my prayers for
the continuance of every blessing to
them now and hereafter; and accept
yourself my salutations and assurances
of great respect and consideration.
TH: JEFFERSON.
MR. GEORGE OUTLAW..
can see a lot of them hanging to car
straps.
Monkeys would be ashamed to claim
some men as ancestors.
The harder the job the easier it is
for a lazy man to dodge it.
Poets who write promissory notes
are the ones who are long remembered.
No matter how a girl is her folks
always expect her to marry well.
Some alleged self-made men are not
finished; they were too small for the
job.
A wise wife never reminds her hus
band of the fool things he said when
sourting her.
A woman may believe only half
what she hears, but she always hears
twice as much as a man.
No woman is ever- as happy as a
man thinks she is or as miserable as
she believes herself to be.
One of the State's Best
(Rutherfordton Sun.)
The "Morning Post is seven years old.
It is one of the state's best dailies and
ably edited sheets. The Sun has a
high regard for the editor of that pa
per and his opinion on issues gener
ally. May The Post continue to pros
per is-The Sun's wishes to it.
Made a Place for Itself
(Statesville Landmark.)
The Raleigh Post was seven years
old on the 1st. It is a good newspaper
and has made place for itself in Ral
eigh and the state. The Landmark
extends congratulations on4 its seventh
anniversary and trusts that it may
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