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SI 50 a veai in advance.
ADVOCATE.
L L A.
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Fro to tU Dal! j A'lvocate.
liEPOBT OF PROCEEDINGS
GENERAL CONFERENCE
Saturday, may 29.
. The Conference met at Si o'clock -
the preliminary exercises by li r Thou
btnngfieM Bishop Pierce in the chair
ie lournal of vnttr(uv a
nd aoDrovad.
Dishon Earl v waa ll...l tr, iV, ,a..;..
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ANNLAL
CO.N'i'KIt-
L M
Lee, from tha Comruaite on .
Iti
nerancy. subrnitt-d thi-r n-ndrt CKr.
lU) on the errors and defects in the'ehism."
Joornalu of the Annual Conferences J B McFerrin Both words are
giving specifications, and recommend-' there.
ing that the Secretary of this General The report was adopted.
0feJTence ..be .instructed to have this AGEts THE PLBLI.L'IVG hocse.
mince wIT--11?1
Coherence of 1854? i8tr0cting tho ' m'7I MI "H'V II f
Bw'-,0 ,i a .'i-. ... lAgcnts of the Publishing House for
on.i lmiuai tonierences witn :
reference
to this matter, printed ajld :
:ated to the proper officers of
communicatee
each Annual Conference
The report was considered and adop
ted. SECCHITIES OF THE PUBLISHING HOUSE.
J B McFerrin from the Committee
on Books and Periodicals, returned;
the:
r report (No 3) with reference to
. , . t 1 i- 1 - it :
the gecuntics of the Publishing House, ;
matter of the securities of the Publish
ing House be referred to the Book
Agent and Book Committee, etc. ;
jwhich was considered and adopted.
JTHE CARROLL AND SMIZKR BEQUESTS.
ru'H McFerrin from the same com
mittee, submitted their report (No 15)
on the subject of the communication of
William Barnhill, of Lagrange, Ky.,
recommending that the Book Agent be
requested to receive and appropriate
the bequests of Michael Smizer and
James P Carroll, deceased.
Which wa3 also adopted.
DUTIES OF BOOK AGENT AND BOOK ED
) ITOR.
J B McFerrin, from the same com
mittee, submitted their report, (No 16)
embracing an additional item for their
report No 4, with respect to the duties
aVbly in the Discipline these words,
"No book of our Catalogue shall be
published without the joint concurrence
f k, "R-rL- "RrlitAr and thf Book
Agent ; and in case of difference and
disagreement between them,th matter
shalT be referred to the Book Commit
tee." He said this makes a slight altera
tion in an item already adopted. Some
seemed dissatisfied with, the manner in
which it bad been reported.
The report was adopted.
VAN HOUTON DONATION.
J B McFerrin from the same com-
"mittee submitted their report (No 17)
I on the paper presented by R Abbey j
ami Levi Pearce with regard to tne
Van Houton donation, recommending
that these trustees be continued in j 0.0 more tnan one ot ours, ana ne re
charge of said fund to be paid to tbe'.ceives from S3000 to S1000 annually.
Missionary Treasurer and Book Agent. The number of their membership
The report was odopted. ere is not one-fourth as large as ours,
TiTnuv DftTTTV and they pay only 250. Sir, we ac-
COMPENDIUM OF THE HISTORY, POLITl, J f J ,J, ' . ..
w icept it as no burden, but as a privilege.
DOCTRINES, AND ordinances OF the j It ia a burden, just as the wings of a
CHURCH.
J B McFerrin from the same Com
mittee, having reconsidered the sub
ject of the resolution of C D Oliver
and G W Carter, to thorn referred
the getting up of a Church Catechism
now submitted a report, (No 18,)
recommending that the Book Editor be
requested to prepare, or cause to be
prepared, a Catechism or Compendium
of the History, Polity, Doctrines, and
-cJinances of the Methodist Episcopal
Cchurch, South, which shall be submit
,tf.,1 to the Bishops for approval, and,
nnnroved. printed at the conve-
nee of the Book Agent.
me
J Hamilton 10 wnat prucmar; - a reasona-
class of readers is this work to be ad-We estimate raust be in the neighbor
dressed ? ,111 hood of two millions of dollars. The
J B Mct errinvve conciuueu w ,
vur.nrt in thlS
indefinite manner, and
i., v the character of the work entire
ly to the Book Editor and the Bishops.
Bishop Paine It is not mandatory,
only discretionary, .
J E Edwards objected to this m-jcTr..ss-
Catechisms were 1 ddress-
A tn children. He understood that this j
work was to emo. .. , fasting, prayer, and thanksgiving to
our Sabbath-school interests. It a3jAim; ghty God, for the abundant out
absurd to get up a Catechism for older j of hig g 5rit on these and
, tTa 5,1 not obiect to the work. ; f 5 . r c k- V,. .
persuu-3. 1 a "P f
It wonld fall into good hands. -but
ie desired the Uonterence
clearly what the work was to be. j neco.Dmending the Bible as a
J B McFerrin The resolution of j text.book.
Bros Oliver and Carter specified the j 5,h Recommending the introduction
ind of work they desired ; and the re- j of gacred mugic ag far ag p0S3-ible.
Vort was based on that resolution. Tha(. we receive the charter of
J E Edwards--Does the resolution!, Centraj University of the General
centemptai.e . j
S hr.nl work ?
J B McFerrin It contemplates a
Catechism for youth just brought into
the Church, and for babbath Schools.
3 E Edwards Then why call it a
Catechism?
J B McFerrin
-The child is not
WThen it shall be born,' it
w'u be time enougu r
1. J . I. y vQm onrl h r-
tize it.
G W Langhorne did not see the point
I of the objection. We needed a took
-embodying portions of tie history and
; the doctrines of the Charch. On these
points those of mature years need in
doctrinating as well as the children.
Many adult members of the Church"
Lave very imperfect ideas of our doc
trines and usages. lie once heard a
Presiding Elder affirm that he saw very
little d.nererce between tbe doctrme3
the Methodist Episcopal Church and
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lehor- wou.'l cnaorsc he was wiian''
to receive.
M J Ji lack well I would like to uh-
inir flifi .--,rl iw.m,.t,.,i;," 4irv.
J B McFerrin from the
same corn-
ablhtJ aJ fideiay with which they
manaSed th affiilr3 the C'
SUPPORT 0E THE BISHOPS.
W A Smith, from the Committee '
on Episcopacy, to whom was referred
the duty of estimating the amount that
ehall be paid by each Annual Confer-
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Florida
Georgia
Louisiana
Mississippi
Missouri
St Louis
Kentucky
Louisville
Western Va
Virginia
N Carolina
Holston
S Carolina
Texa3
East Texas
Wachita
Tennessee
Memphis
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675
250
400
225
200
225
225
100
650
300
150
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225
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with our beloved Superintendents, in
view of the manner in which this sub
ject had been sometimes discussed. He
expressed surprise at the small hgure
reported for Louisiana only 250 fall
ing to her share. He was really sorry
that any part of thi3 fund had been tax
ed upon the Missionary Society, and
wished that the salaries of the Bishops
had been raised, and that one or two
more had been elected to help them in
thir work. Louisiana (said he) accepts
her portion as a privilege; and if you
want more, you may double it ; andif
you want it in advance, you may draw
now. Sir, I am astonished at the rel
ative cost of the Episcopacy. Why,sir,
we have in iuouisiana a handtul or
Episcopalians, whose Bishop does not
bird or the sails of a ship may be re
garded in that sense helping us to go
along.
B M Drake demanded the previous
question, which was sustained,and then
ihe report was adopted.
EDUCATIONAL INTERESTS OF THE
CHURCH.
B M Drake, from the Committee or
Education, submitted a report, in wri
ting, setting forth in detail the several
schools, academies and colleges under
the patronage of the M E Church,
South the number of the pupils, ex
tent of libraries, etc ; showing that the
t close3 with recommending the
passage 01 resolutions
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to the following
effect :
1st. Expressive of the devout grati
tude of the delegates to the General
Conference for the general prosperity
of our literary institutions
2d, Setting apart the second Friday
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ill uuiuuei, ui ei.t.L jrc-ii, ij a uttj 111
icveiy uepmnueui. ui 111c uuunu nuiii
j gJ ReCommend ing an increase of
. .lista: these institutions.
; (jonterence ot the M. iu unurcn, aoutn.
but defer final action thereon until the
hext General Conference.
7th. That while we approve the great
object of the erection of a Central
University, we recommend that
be appointed a board of Commissioners
to prepare a charter and plan of ope
rations, procure information as to the
best location, means of endowment,
etc ; and report to the General Confer-
: ence meeting ia 18C2 their actioa in Charch, South. They tke all the -the
premises, ftncial responsibility of fcoilding up
On motion of J E Evans, it was or-" the Medical Department. TLey have
dered that these resolution be coosM- j already $50,000 to $100,000 to begin
ered and acted upon as independent! upon. Are voa going to reject that?
propositions, and the first five were
: adopted without debate. j If we live at the centre, u a no arga-
W J Sasnett opposed the sixth res- j rcent against our right of, competition
; lotion. He was opposed to the recep-j for this institution. The breAren came
tion of this charter, because if we ac-) here and made the offer, aad "re ac
cept it, even with the qualifications ; cepted it. They asked U3 to do noth
expre?sed, we would be committed to it j iag but procure toe charter. That we
and to Nashville for its locality. He ) have done ; and now, brethren, if we
was in favor of a Central Uiiiverehy, ! d not bring up something worthy of
; but opposed to d-.varSng the i lea by ! your notice four years come, just
adopting this resolution. drop us, arid go anywhere you please,
ALP Green stated his connection ; and we will go with you.
witu the procurement of this cnarter,
which he represented as of the ino-;t fa
vorable
character unlimited. There J
I was but one other charter as liberal as
this. If the Conference ef'ia
charter, they would do themselve3 and j
the Church an immense damage. j
j J Hamilton desired to take it out of j
;the category of competition with our j
; other institutions. A diploma should j
be required in order to the admission ;
of students. i
Bishop Paine said a word a3 Trustee
; of'the Greensboro" University. An ef-1
fort to establish a real University had j
i been initiated within the limit3 01 the j till this hour, sir, that my tame was in
. Alabama Conference before this mat-J this charter I nver heard of it.
ter wa3 agitated here. They had gone j When the resolution just rejected came
ion there and raised a subscription ofiup before the Conference in the report
; nearly three hundred thousand dollars of the committee, I felt myself like a
at the last accounts there were two
hundred and sixty-tight thousand dol- '
lars. ana an emcient -A?ent in tne neia.
ahese subscriptions were heavy and j
paying interest. Une man subscribed
$20,000. Another, who himself and
his family had subscribed S35,000,had
said to us, " My part is in the bank
now, and I would rather you would
draw for it than to pay interest." We
intend to build. Arrangements are
made for a University complete, with
the exception of a Medical Department.
We intend to teach Christianity a3
Methodists. We intend to teach bib
lical literature and religion. Is it riodit
in the Conference to prejudge thi3
matter ? We expect to come up here
four years from thi3 time and present
you, in this institution, a noble speci
men of the liberaly of the Southern
Church quite beyond the contingency
of failure a permanent thing so far as
insert the word 44 decline" for the word
" defer ;" and to insert at the ei.d of
the resolution these words: "It i3
therefore understood that the action of
this body shall not be regarded as giv
ing thi3 institution the preference over
any other which may present equal or
superior claims to the next General
Conference."
D S Doggett was opposed to the
resolution and amendment.
C F Deems moved to strike out the
resolution, for the reasons assigned by
Dr Doggett, and added the considera
tion submitted by Bishoo Paine. Ala-
bama wa3 preparing to offer something ;
tfinmKlp fw a af-.nri-. wl.ilft Tfin nesspft '
only offered a charter. He did not
like the manner in which the thing had
come up. Jt reminded mm 01 tne 01a
saying familiar to childhood : j
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"Won't you walk into my parlor ?
Said the spider to the fly."
He objected, also, because it was a ;
proposition to set up aa independent j
r t 1 ri 1 1 .1 1 i
iUedicai ocnooi, independent 01 me:
Church
J B McFerrin, in connection with
other brethren, was appointed a com
mittee to procure this charter. Ihe
idea of this Central University did not
originate in Nashville.
G Jones It originated in Georgia,
North Carolina, Mississippi, and Loui
siana. .
J B McFerrin The idea of location
did not originate here. 1 believe Bro
Gillespie claims its paternity in an ar
ticle not long since published in the
Texas Advocate the idea of a great
Central University to be located at
Nashville. Another brother here says
it was originated by a Kentuckian, in
1855. All I know about it is, that a
meeting of brethren, called together in
Nashville, appointed a committee, and,
authorized them to appTy for a charter, j
The idea was, that we had the Book
Concern here, that this was a healthy
point, and therefore it was offered to
us ; and we would have been the most
ungallant men in the world not to have
accepted it. Bro. Sasnett, and other
brethren from the sand-hills andpiney
wood3 came up here, and, seeing tho
blue grass and fat cattle, thought this
tbe very place to send their boys to
school. They wanted their boys to
grow up to be men weighing two hun
dred pounds, or more, and, Nashville
being the very place for that, they of
fered us the location ; and we went on
and procured the charter one of the
most liberal charters in the world, up
on which they may engraft any thing
they want.
Now, our brethren and friends here
got up the idea 01 a medical depart
ment. Did you ever know a Universi
ty without a Medical School ? I un
derstand a University to be an institu
tion connecting Law, Medicine, and
Theology with General Science. This
is a kind of sub-chartef, as I under
stand it, and all these gentlemen ask
is to be under the great Central Uni-
yersity of the Methodist Episcopal
We are not Toting ag-iinst Greensboro,
J E Evansdoabted wherher we mijiht
not injure parties by accepting thia
charter. He moved the previous Qoes-
Hton, which was sus1nd l-v the House.
The Crair T?e first ucitiou h cn
striking out the sixh resolution.
The resolution was stricken out.
W A Smith remarke4 generally that
we were not ready to enter upon such
a work, and would not be for the next
four rears.
BishoD Soule I hold in mv hand
the charter, and it i3 the first time I
ever saw it. I see my nime in this
charter, with others. I never knew
mariner at sea, out of sigat of land,
and without the necessary instruments
to determine ins latitude anu longitude
precisely in that situation. I did
not know, sir, what wa3 meant by re
ceiving tms charter. I did not know
what was meant by ?r.ing this
Board of Trustees, and consequently
felt myself perfectly at sea. I did not
know how to act, nor hardly how to
talk. But the Conference has settled
the matter by striking out the resolu
tion. Still I am not yet e'ear in my
apprehensions with respect to what the
Conference mean3 to do precisely.
There i3 now before us a resolution
providing for the appointment of a com
mittee of this Conference U have this
whole subject of a Great Ceatral Uni
versity under investigation, and report
the result of their inquiries and exam
inations to the next session of the Gen
eral Conference. Am I correct, sir ?
sicmers isto be appointed.1
BUhop Soule Well, sir, I certainly
have no objection to that. I feel no
disposition whatever to make any fur
ther observations.
A II Mitchell Are these commis
sioners to procure a charter ?
B M Drake To prepare a charter.
G Jones This subject has been un
der consideration before the committee
for nearly four weeks. We have la
bored much and long upon it." Some
of the best minds in the Conference
have been at work in that committee.
They have matured this thing as well
as they could, and the report comes
before u3 as a sort of compromise. We
did not intend to endorse -these corpor
ations, nor commit tbe Conference to
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uie uuiveisity nu, xum iuc icsuiuuuu
laid on the table was designed to be
I noncommittal. Ihe resolution now De
fore us proposes to survey the whole
I ground, and to take action iust where
we want action, as indicated by every
speaker on this floor.
. . . ,
j Hamilton did not expect the action
of the Conference would go to the ex
tent it has. If the Alabama Institu
tion were not accepted, he and his col
leagues would have no heart-burnings
about it.
A S Riggs demanded the previous
question ; under the force of which the
seventh resolution was rejected.
On motion by J E Evans, the report
was now adopted a3 a whole.
G W D Harris asked and obtained
leave of absence for W McMahon, who
had received afflictive intelligence from
his family.
C K Marshall presented the follow
ing resolution, which was, after several
ineffectual efforts to amend, adopted :
Resolved, That we earnestly exhort
all our people to sustain and patronize
our own institutions of learning, and to
consider the painful consequences that
have befallen some who have most un
wisely allowed their children to be
placed in Roman Catholic and kindred
schools.
J J Hutchinson complained that his
speech of yesterday was not reported
in the Daily Advocate.
O R Blue said he had been slander
ed by the reporter, and set down for a
fool.
The reporter replied : The statement
i3 not correct, and I protest against
such misrepresentations of a man who
has no right to speak here.
The question on the boundary line
between the North Carolina and Vir
ginia Conferences now came up ; and
L M Lee and R T Heflin spoke at
length on the subject.
The hour for adjournment having
come, notices were given out, and the
Chair pronounced the benediction.
AFTERNOON SESSION.
Conference met at three o'clock,
pursuant to adjournment Bishop KaT
, . -,,
anaugn in tne unair.
W P Ratcliffe opened the session
with prayer.
1 The bitsiness before the Conferenoe
sat the hoar of adjournment wa.5 rt-rxij- ;
5 ed.
After some mi..elIaneou5 discussion,
;'ani a speech of fifteen minaies by G j
W Carter,
Oa action of T
.question was now pat.- t
ihe substitute was reject!, and the
j original report was ad op
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TEXAS AND KIO GRANDE MISSION
FERENCE.
con-
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follow- I
Bishop Paine submitted the
& . . . ;
Resolved, That if within the next.
lour years the lexas .on.erer.ce should
rt nam it- Kn- 4-4 , . -4 .-- -
new Confe
vtiu iv wt;:i( 1 'J Ui f : -c airj ui 11 ii .tr
st to divide and organize sa;
;rence within their bounds, J
siding Bishop shall concur,
and the Pres
. ,
it best to remove the eastern boundary
eastward to the Guadaloup river.
Bishop Paine I have no doubt but
the Guadaloupe would be better for
the, present; but if you postpone it a
year or two, it might do very well a3
it is.
The motion to reconsider was agreed
to.
II N McTyeire I move now that
the line be brought east to the Guada
loupe river, running from its mouth up
to where the road from San Antonio to
Fredericksburg crosses said river; then
as already described and fixed.
Bishop Paine How far up the river
doe3 that road cross ?
J W Whipple One hundred and
ten miles. I want to amend the mo
tion, so as to include Fredericksburg
in the Rio Gra.ide Mission Conference.
The amendment was accepted, and
so the motion was adopted, and the
boundary changed accordingly.
GEORGIA AND HOLSTON CONFERENCES.
L Pierce, from the Committee on
Boundaries, submitted a report, chang
ing the line between the Georgia and
Holston Conferences, so as . to include
in the Holston Conference, etc.
E H Sevier proposed to substitute
the report by these words : " That the
line between the Georgia and Holston
Conferences be defined as follows : be
ginning at the Tennessee river and the
Alabama State line ; thence south with
said Alabama line to the eastern base
of tbe Lookout Mountain ; thence north
with the base of said mountain to the
Tennessee and Georgia State line ;
thence with the Georgia State line to
where it meets the line running between
the South Carolina and Holston Con
ferences." The substitute was accepted, and so
the report was adopted.
MISSOURI CONFERENCE.
W G Caples (the rules being suspen
ded for the purpose) moved to take out
of the description of the boundary of
the Missouri Conference page 200 of
the Discipline these words : " And
also the city of Quincy, 111."
The motion wa3 agreed to, and the
words were stricken out.
THE CHURCH EVANGELIST : A WEEKLY
TRACT.
On motion by C K Marshall, the
Conference now took up the considera
tion of the report of the special com
mittee for the establishment of the
weekly newspaper susested by his
memorial submitted at an early day of
the session.
the session
The report recommends the establish
ment of a weekly newspaper for gen
eral and gratuitous circulation, to be
" of the highest order known to Chris
tian literature," and prescribes a plan
for getting up the same, embracing se
ven items, heretofore described.
C K Marshall spoke fifteen minutes
on the object3 of the paper, and the
methods by which it i3 proposed to be
put into circulation.
The several propositions were then
adopted, upon separate consideration.
On motion by C K Marshall, it was
ordered, that " The Church Evange- I
ist : a weekly Tract," be the naiae
and style of said weekly newspaper.
j Xi Ji.van3 submitted tne ionowmg:
Resolved, That the Book Commit
tee be authorized to employ an Ageni
of said paper, if they deem it expedient.
Several members proposed to amend,
by appointing 0 Jx Marshall to that
Agency.
H H Montgomery submitted a reso
lution to that effect.
J E Evans withdrew his resolution.
The hour of adjournment having
now arrived
On the motion of E H Myers, this
subject was laid on the table for the
present.
15 M .Drake made an inettectual mo
tion for a reee3 till eight o'clock. !
F E Pitts moved to go now into the
election of the Book Committee.
And then, after some desultory con
versation witli reference to unfinished
business of the General Conference,
such a3 the place of holding the next
such as the place of holding the nex
General Conference, and a change of
tney may aoeo. - . ding to the Kentucky .Conference "Lib-
Aftpr somo conversation, Urtv " etc
rJEVT m0Vfd SUbStlT ! ' ' RATIO W P.EPRE-SiLNTATION. I
resolution ey a motion to reconsider the , j
vote fixing the line between the Texas' On motion of A L P Green, the Con-i
and Rio Grande Mission Conferences. ; ference took up the consideration of;
J W Whipple It was desirable to the report, No 4, from the Committee ;
remove the line a little farther east. jon Revivals, namely, that proposing a:
J Boring had no question about the 1 change of the Discipline, pages 3'i and j
wisdom of the erection of the Rio ! 37, with reepect to the ratio of repre- '
Grande Mission Conference, but tho't ' sentation in the General Conference, so
Gen
?I c n-
ral Co&ferenc.
The Ccnfereaee a djoarted ti
dav morale;:, e o c.ock.
Benediction by BUhop Sia'e.
.Monday, May, 31.
The Ccnfereccs icet at &i oV.cek
tve onecicr exercises bv the Rev Dr
' Joter.h Bovle B
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is a op
Karana-gh
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the chiir.
The journal of Saturday was read j
&&d authenticated. I
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action of the Conference I
chair,
fi.
(had seTera, :Kt3 jn the D;5ci. !
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i;ce wnh re5pect to Conference bound-j
arife3 to make the Discipline conform!
t0 previoug actioB of tte bojy aiij .'
T , , - -
that there hall be one member return
ed for every twenty-one members of
the Annual Conferences, and changing
"two" to "three," so as to read, "no :
Conference shall be restricted to less '
thiui three representatives."
On motion of II A C Walker, the J
latter proposition was laid cn the ta- J
ble.
G W Langhorne moved to fndefin-;
itely postpone the remainder of the re- i
port; which was not entertained. j
P P Smith advocated the change. j
L M Lee opposed, for the reason we j
have nc lay representation in the ;
Church at all. The safety of the in-,
terests of the whole Church, in his ;
'judgment, would be far better secured
and subserved in a large representa- j
tion.
Bishop Soule With all due respect
to the statemont of Dr Lee, I beg leave
to say that I have ever supposed that
the whole Methodist Episcopal Church
ministers and laity are represented
in this General Conference. Such has
been my conviction from the beginning.
L M Lifee In the sense to which
the Bishop refers, I suppose I should
tTt W--V-C. .-Tit-l-. 11 -.,--
view of Dr Lee, and to meet the ex-
pen3e complained of by Bro Smith, I j
propose to amend the Discipline in an
other place, so as to prescribe that the
General Conference shall meet only
once in eight years.
The Chair That cannot be enter
tained. A L P Green had noticed among the
Annual Conference delegations, that a j
number of the old and moderate men
are returned a3 the very last in the lists; j
and if the ratio had been as low a3 one j
to twenty one, he feared the old, mod
erate, safe men would have been left
at home. He would prefer a me "ium
, . . i . i .i !
between this proposition and the pros- '
ent ratio. He moved to amend the
resolution by striking out 21 and inser
ting 17.
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The motion wa3 agreed to on a divi3- j
ion affirmative Go, negative oo. j
The resolution reported, a3 thu3 1
amended, was now adopted. j
ADMISSION OF CHURCH MEMBERS. j
On motion of A II Mitchell, that j
part of the same report which proposes ;
to modify or do away with the princi-!
pie of probation was laid on the table
for the present.
J Stacy desired to offer a substitute
for that part of the report.
The Chair It cannot come in now.
i. way ofthe substitute for the balance
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of the Report No 4 of the Committee
on Kevisals :
Whereas, many changes of the Dis
cipline have been proposed ; therefore,
Resolved, that no further change of
our present Discipline be made by tr.J3
General Conference, except such as
shall be necessary to make the same
conform to the changes already made.
On motion by C F Deems, the sub
stitute waslaid on the table.
CLASS MEETINGS.
On motion by C F Deems, that part
of the same report changing the section j
relating to class-meetings was laid on ;
i
the table. j
LOVE-FEASTS. !
The Chair now directed the reading j
and consideration of that part of this
report from the Committee on levi-
sals, proposing a change ot tne -U.scip-
line, by inserting matter to follow sec
2, chapter m.
D B Nicholson Does the report
propose to restrict reception to love
feast to those who are in full fellow
ship '?
T O Summers No.
G W Langhorne would strike out
the word3, "candidates may be receiv
ed," because the discretion of recep- j
tion of members was altogether with ;
the preachers. But he did not press
ihe motion.
R T Heflin It strikes me that a
proposition similar to that ha3 already
been laid on the table.
The Chair No, Eir ; it wa3 not the
d
J -x kV
same
tie ratio of rftreient-ation in th
J-zve-feai: r-tr:c..:a to or.e hc-sr aid
iii4.
Levi I 'eirce an! E Wi!? rth
er saw thrA rtric'.::n violatr J.
J B;.y.e I ra very p!a 1 to ntt
with er.e rr.an in mv life who Km r.evtr
eea that ru!e violated. I hive often
felt that I wmjM b do.ag injary to the
C3Ue cfGl bv clos'.a the raeetir.
j the enl cf cr.e'hoar nd a fcilf ; ni I
I trust now that ihis dUcretion will bo
left to th-se managing tbe meeting.
D S Deceit I d.fer verv niateri-
Pro Bov.e. I have observed
the of ratios
if thia hour and
half
rule, and I am decidedlv of the opinion
that it is f:ur. Jed in tbe matures, wis
dom. I think there ia a deep Mgacit
in it. I think the love feast will ac
complish all its legitimate objects, if
conducted properly, in an hour and a
half.- Such is the result of ray own
observation ; and I should deprcct
any change of the rule. There is ioico
discretion, hich the rule itself allows.
A L 1' Green I concur with Dr
Dog get
The rule is especially adp-
ted to meetings
m the country, where
men, women and ch;I iron come to wor
ship. The love-feast begins at f
o'clock, siy, in the winter. It ia rtrj
comfortable to the ir.i.do ; bat peraoaa
outside m iv b? suffering v.ith cold. I
want th'. ra to be compei'el t ) open the
doors.
C K Marshall The difficulty u in
the long, tedious opening of the lore
feast. A love-feast is a love-feaat,
brethren that is exordium enough.
E Wadsworth It has been ray cus
tom in holding love-fcaat, to hold tho
love-feast proper one hour and a half.
If there happen to be an outpouring of
the Spirit of God, and it i desirable to
continue, I close the livc-feast, and,
open a prayer meeting.
S P Richardson Mr President, I do
not want to stay here longer than to
day. I move that tho qu,3.ion bo no-.v
put.
This motion being seconded by a
majority of tho House, the taction to
strike out was rejected.
And then this part of the report wa3
adopted, It is in the following words :
Question 1. How shall the love-fea-St
be held ''.
Antwer After singing and prayer,,
the minister may make a short address,
setting forth the nature and design of
tl r.-.t.-tL. w.rt , 14-pw rm . m mum mm
water in token of brotherly love, and
collection shall be taken up for the poor
of the church whenevei it ia deemed
necessary ; candidates for church-fal-lowship
may then be received into the
church ; after which the members bhall
give brief details of their religious ;t
perience ; and the laeeting shall clos&
with singing and prayer.
Question 2. Who shall attend tho
love-feasts t
Answer All the members of th
church, and other serious persons who
may be admitted by the preacher ia
charge.
QwKtion 3. How often shall tho
love-fea3t3 be held ?
Amwer At every quarterly meet
ing, and at such other timt3 as th
preacher i;i charge may consider expe
dient ; and they bhall not be continaed
looser than an hour and a half.
INSTRUCTION OF CHILDREN.
The Chair now directed tho reading
and consideration of that part of tho
same report proposing a change in sec.
iii, chap 3, page 99 of the Discipline,
striking out combrov.3 language, and
the same wa3 adopted in the following
terin3 :
5. Let the minister diligently in
struct and exhort all parents to dedi
cate their children to the Lord in bap
tism as early a3 convenient ; and in lua
pastoral visitations let him pay epeciaJ
attention to the children; epcak to them
personally and kindly on experimental
and practical godliness, according t
their capacity; pray earnestly for theta;
cause them to be faitkfully instructed!
in the nature, design, privilegei, an4
obligations of their baptism ; and as
soon a3 they comprehend tbe respomi
bilities involved in a public profeBiion
of faith in Christ, and give evidtnc of
a sincere and earnest determination to
discharge the same, see that they be
duly
recognized
as
members o
f tL
Church, agreeably to the provisions of
the Discipline, chapter iii, section i.
Let the second paragraph of section
ir, page 103, be ttricken out.
PUBLIC WORSHIP.
The Chair now directed the- reading
of that part of the same report propo
c.r.?r hiin!7e3 in sec vi. chap 3. pazes
y an. &f tbe uisc,p;-ne ; Qi the
game was considered and adopted in
the following worda :
Q nation 1. Omit "among u?,on th
Lord's day."
Omit answer C to question 1 : "Let
the society be met," etc.
DRESS.
The Chair now directed the reading
and consideration of that part of ih-s
same report proposing to change the
Discipline by striking out sec Tiii, chap
3, of Dress.
J Stacy proposed a iubstitute for
thi3 part of said report, embracing &
proposition to the effect that preaehera
in charge shall earnestly and frequent
ly direct attention to the General
See 1th aqt).