She f!msUim 5dcocate. f 4 T Kit MS. Couerux Aivinarc is :urullie4 lo milia. ri -.-o-Jper anuuro in mlvauce. six niuuthe Hi : 1 -fi in advance. i'KtOIS TO MIMsTfr.K. ' ... . , . ri ng ministers of tne X. c. Cou- iVi-eiicf ill. i .per will be sent f.ee f charse. T.. all other niiuisteM at Sl.00 per year. In aa .fe'E.XTS. aii the tra.eUog saaicobl preachers lu the bound. tt., North Carolina Conference are our authored si-ul. au.l they are hereby authorl. eil to receipt r all tiiu.lH to be ftjrwardnl to us. iVcint. nVX. il I luil known in tiit- morning 1 !"H weary all the dav Tho words unkind V..ul.i ii in mind. 1 said w he. M , .,1 au a v, had been in re careful darling, Not given you heedless iain. Rut wo vox 'inn- i.'ivn' With 1. tone e may iifvi-r take back at Il in tho lor thou I mav jlllet evening io vim tiio kiss .il' neac Vet it might in I hat never f-.r me The pain at iho no. tit W Ili.ltlV g. I hat in- or And h.-ar.s haw boon ly liai li w i nat '! t ii hi ceas forth in tho morning come hack al night ! is haw boon broken, s spoken. it. BRACK Ar RE1D, Epitors, Pntusiinns, ani Proprietors. Tho Faith once delivered to the Saints. SUBSCRIPTION PRICE. $2.00 Per A.nmh, ,s A.hanck. ttbthcrtjn tlie fntcvct.o tt p& mUsmnovtft Carolina. Vol. XX I I I . Raleigh, ST. 0., Wednesday, Nov. 2()tli, 1878." Number 45. relation 1.1" Christ to the world has ae- can only ho justified hy pardon upon tually brought it into a regenerate condition of repentance and faith. The state, ' A-c. I was not arguing then in child has two ..f ..,r,- si it,. iavor.it regeneration at all, but justifi- j atonement; original condemnation for cation. 1 he following is inv l.'iiii'ii:ne- i the H.ut ,aT....,. ,. ...... 1 i .1... cj . n o ' .--v. "iivmo is iciiiuvi-ii, uuu me Hut Christ legally stands related to ! Adamic race may he said to be in a the world in his federative character state of justification by provision. just as Adam stood; and so far as the! ('). As infants i.nv i.nv..r v.b.t...l latioh of Adam's posterity to iaw is j law, they tnav be said to he in a state concerned, counteracts the result of his j of justification by force of law. irangre.sMon. Is there a word . generation in that ? I would a-k L. again if that is a lair icmci.iit.-iti.iii IS w can no or set 11 Wo hrv. iui 'II: ;ht for the stran care g'T. And smiles !i.i t!i.' soiiietiuie guest, I'-iu o't tor .in- own' Tho 'liner tone, I !; iitgh .-e love 'uiir own' the best. Ah! hps. with oui-o iuijiai ient ' Aii ' i.r.iw with that look of corn ! "fui'if a cruel fate Wore the night too late To urdo the w..rk of the morn. Sri. 0 m m u n i c a t c d . I r the Advocate. IMAM ALVATIX MV KE- VIKWE!.' i'EVi KWEI. Hro. Lee5 lii fir-t. I tor ( 1 1 I'.ocaiisL' it i more and has a siarj,er point. lu .Hue respects I like second article better than illve it not vigorous W hen men u-o intellectual lances that giitt' u shows they are carefully fur i isiie l: ;.n i whoa used with dexterity, it indicates practice. (2. ) Localise in this ho 'oniewhat touches the ut ot controversy and does 10. t leap iiuiuo iiate'y I'rom the in i'ant to tiie adult, ami di-ciiss his condi Tivtt instead of the infant's. Rut while 1 admire his vi..r, animation, and dex- teiLty ta . jieu.ics, 1 seriously object to his uui'airaos-s in the j'lesontation of ;: y argument. I do not care how rigid the scrutiny o: one's analysis and how subtle the .sophistry because the read ers can judge that but I do not ro 1'ise that my own ideas shall be substi iUe I by the agarics .it another who -.oias t-i bo intent upon tinding out riiat I did ..i nritc and what I did s'or mean, rather than what I did. And I object the more seriously be ;uie there arc very few of the readero j t'nis iliscusioti, thtit have jmiseryed liy articics so as to see for themselves v'uat my arguments wore. If a disin terested reader were to take what I rrote and compare it with Rro. L's 'liticism, he could nut guess that Rro. I . intended it as an honest review. I 1 ways accustom myself to systematic tiinkiiiir ro. Ii. seems to think 1 am in an in extricablc dilemma when arguing in fa vnr f actual justification in my "pro per exegesis ol Hum. .1: Is. the world enjoys the actual ;b of the atonement, their relation to Adam being parallel and correlate, they must actually suffer the penalty of Adam. I would ask Rro L. if the penalty tor Adam's sin was u.. actually stilfer- : . n.lil...nl..... ... I . ) "i win a posuive ( ,y my reviewers, and other iio. ana negative sigmncance, or a negative iotilv. It mav mean that the ucrson is - 1 both innocent in the i.ight of law and positively upright, both in spirit and life; or it mav mean simply that the ed bv Christ as a sit! stitute. If how is it possible for all Adam's j os terity to sutler it themselves ? If thev have tosiiifer it themselves, their substi tute amounts to nothing. "lie was made sin for us that we might be made the righteousness of fJod in him." "He was wounded for our transgress ion." So that 1 would relieve Rro. L. hy saying that actual condemnation has been inflicted and actual justification has been granted because of that fact. I hope this will help Rro. L. to explain some of his perplexing antitheses that we find about the middle of the second column. If Rro. L. still contends that the world is guilty because under "ob ligation to suffer," and because de praved, I would reply, ( 1) that if ob ligation to suffer imolies rr,Ut tl...n was Christ guilty, because he was tin ier obligation to suiter, and "was made perfect through suffering." But if Rro. I That if I la w has no claim against him. If the vantages law has no claim against him, he is in the sight of the law-giver in a state of acceptance or justification. It is cer- tainly unreasonable to .say that a person ; must have I'een a sinner in order to be in a state of justification. AVas not Adam in a state of justilication before he sinned ? Was not f'iuisl win. never sinned at all ? To say nothing here of infant regeneration which depends upon something else the in fant is born under this provision of atonement, and is in a state of justifica tion or acceptance with (Jod. Xow, J ask Rro. L. if this is not the proper ex egesis of Jioui. ."i: Is. and that children by provision of atonement are not born in this state of justification, what is the propor exegesis ? At what period in life are all justified ? If in adult age, then universalisni is right. Rro. L. is too well informed to be re minded that justification does not af- tect the character, but the relation of tii person to law. That it is what "(iod does for us through his Son." "). That all children whenever tiiey need it either before or after l.irtii, being embraced in the atonement, ore subject to the regenerating Hgcncj of the Spirit, and as there Is no interposi tion of will to prevent the accomplish ment of the work, it is done whether mi.iMtEN ?" How is he elected? "Through saiictification of the Spirit unto obedience."' 1 do not know that I shall be called upon to explain any more. If any others reply, 1 hope they will rcph to what T have written and not to what they imagine I would write. 1 care fully studied I he whole subject before I wrote a line upon it. I looked at all the difficulties that have been referred beside. And while there are difficulties con nected with my view of the subject Just as there are in all other subjects con iic led with religion, I am sure they ai ii fewer and less than are connected with any other view. It is more con sonant with common sense, with our discipline and with the Riblo. .1. T. 1!amvki.l. (ioldsboro, Oct. SHh, 1S7S. For the Advocate. A LETTER OF IXQFIRV. fp.ience of Adam's transgression. Rals ton speaks of them as being guilty in the sense of being involved in the penal conse quences of the fall ; viz : the temporal and spiritual death visited upon all j Inoro jIni,ortailt than reliability. Most mankmd Rut he ;gllt!s foi the si-.i va- j emphatically is this true of a good boui llon nt all who iti.- in infancy, uiion the ' L THE RELIABLE MAX. Of all the qualities that combine to form a good character, there is not one ground that they are not sinners It must be admitted that his use of the term guilt renders him liable to be charged wim ambiguity. Riot her Yates has shown conclusively that an infant cannot be guilty in the ordinary sense of the word; and that infants are without phatically nes.s man. The word itself embraces both truth and honesty, and the relia ble man must necessarily be truthful and honest. We see so much around us that exhibits the absence of this crown ing quality, that we are tempted, in our bilious moods, to deny its very ex- i lstence. Rut there are, nevertheless, re- u.i, .. o,.,, .naiac.er, ts generally ad- j liable men, men to be depended upon, m.tted .Neither holiness ,,or sin can j to be trusted, in whom y., may repose be predicated ol those who are ignorant j confidence, whose word is as good as ui uio n.utu-.i aim .Uiatiou.s ui moral er . flu.l' ..ii..,.;y.n.. ..41 ...... H' t an!iwer tliat llllt was imputed to n. ti,;. if.,,. t..: ( . ...... i.uR wiii,uivi5 OI.Z1JIIUI. which says they must be "born again" after their birth, I reply that, while I do not say that their regeneration is him and he suffered in our stead, then I wou'd reply, that our obligation to suf fer is not guilt. (.) Inst depravity i., not the penal I effected before birth, yet the Scripture ty of the Adrmie law. If so, Christ, in J does not speak of it in order of lime. had I . . 1 i. ii , auui-i mg me penalty , would have by necessity to be depraved. Tt Rro. L. had examined what wro.e simjily to see what views I did enunciate, he might have been saved the trouble of writing the last half of his article. In hi imaginary dilemma, he but ot source. The word nuolhcn trans lated "again" means rum above. The idea is that as they have a natural birth, so they must have a spiritual from above. If it be objected that children early manifest evil inclina tions and go astray, I answer: lassiiieatioii, and statement, -1 as to be easily understood. And as uy classification, both ot doctrinal rows and proof texts, was just as elear r.t and distinct as I could possibly lake it, it is pet feet ly "amazing that iiie of Rr ). Lee's sense-" should no en siely misapprehend them. Or, if lis oes ajipichen 1 them, it is still more laazing that one of his honesty fchould -D jiervert them. I ma io a clear distinction between mirk-ation and regeneration. And the jroof texts were just as distinct. Rro. Ice confounds the two, and takes the I ; roof text that I used only in proof of uiiversa! justification, and applies it to I ith justification and regeneration, and U;.s not notice a single proof-text that, J quoted in favor of regeneration. I ifoul'l ask Rro. Lee if "in all soberr.ees jud honesty" be regards that a fair rep esentatioji of another's opinion and ar gument. A L't.ge per cent, of his ar icle is the oj po.-.n.g of opinions I do ot ent.titain and did not advance, the lefutation of an argument I did not em ploy, but they were tho creatures of his ov- :i in e.-atioii. If Rro. Lee proposes to imagine such a puerile compef itor.inveat his argument, create his own dilemma, li-tiig the supposed argument upon both hon.s, badger it, and then proclaim his victory over his own figment, I have no objection provided he acknowledges pa ternity. I would simply reply in the language of a sage who was reminded by a friend that a fellow standing by. indulging in opprobious epithets, wa i' iiii.g mm. lie says, "i. ut J . m not i-viled.;' Xear thu beginning of the first col umn, Rro. L. onotes one of my state- .1 , - - 1 , inents correct 'y, aim it is the only in stance in his whole article. The quo tntion is as follows: "There never ha' been a time when infants (children) were not subjects of redeeming grace." This statement did not si) it Rro. L. f'ruust he could not deny it: and about five lines below, be changes it, and quote me as saying "there never was a time when infants were in an unregen erate state," which I have never said. In fact, I stated that "children are sub jects of redeeming grace for two rca soas: (-) R-cause all art: fallen. (2.) Recau e all are embraced ii) the cove nant of grace." That native depravity was the has j., .,f operation of the Spirit In his attempted analysis of my expo sition of Rom. .": Is, he quotes me in (1 TI...1 ......;,i,...r,,... .1 ,. -, . i . i v-y vuu--iuii.iiii mo consult!- neeu not have supposed my adoption of j liunal vidollglies, bv ,bit igllorallce the negative; lor I plainly avowed the j stupidity, provocation, bad teachin; affirmative. All are fallen. Rut h"W and worse examples of parents, it is far ? is the question. j reasonable to expect that the maioritv says, "A state of dciira vity I of children would . ;.st.-n Rro. L is a fallen state. the same column as saying, "Since the A state of regenera tion is a risen stato." 1 ask Rro. L, how far is the child fallen, and what is the proof ? Also how high does regen eration raise him ? Are we raised to the state from which we fell ? to Adamic perfection ? Mr. Wesley says not. He says that even Christian perfection is not Adamic per fection. Then if he does not reach Adamic perfection, he is all through life in a fallen state, though he is re generated and even sanctified. Will Rro. L, say this is absurd ? I hope he will not go back on Mr. Wesley, If this is true of the adult and js not ab surd, how and why is it necessarily absurd in the case of the infant ? Does regeneration in the adult imme diately icstore to the position from whence he has fallen ? Hoes it forever destroy the tendency to sin ? Does it prevent the possibility of sinning ? Docs the regenerate person always ex hibit the fruita of the spirit ? Is every act of his the act of a saint? Unless these questions can be answered in the affirmative, let it hot be said that be cause a child sins, therefore he has never been regenerated. Such a con clusion no more follows in the case of the infant than the adult. If the question is asked, "yhcn does regeneration occur ? I answer in the language of Rro. Lee "Whenever it needs it." As I find nothing more in Bro. I, 's article touching what I wrote to reply to, I shall state a few thoughts in the form of propositions so that thev cannot be misunderstood. I. Christ died for Adam and all per sons whom he represented. The pro vision was made and the promise given before he had a posterity. 2. The penalty for the Adamic of fence was executed or it was not. If it was not, jod's yorj failed; jf it was, it was laid upon one other than Adam. 3. The penalty fqr the Adamic of fence having passed from him to anoth er, he and his posterity were relieved from that penalty for tin; first offence. 4. Because of Christ's righteousness (2.) Adults ax 1 sin. It is not claim ed that children are an exception. So one is so foolish us to say that they may be trained up without sinning at all ; bttt that they may be trained to christian virtue just as easily and ef fectually as an adult. (3.) One of the easiest things to teach children, and 0110 in which they manifest greatest interest if taught right, is religion. You can train any child to love God. His affirmative answer to the question may be somewhat mechanical at first, but he soon feels the truth he express es when he says he loves Jestis, They are interested in nothing more than religious narratives, and their emo tional nature is excited by nothing more than the story of "Jesus and his bve." o. 111c ooiect ot Christianity is to prepare each individual for living not simply for death. Preparation for life is the primary object ; for death Holiness is the end, the secondary not the means. The question then is, "What is neces sary to right living ? I suppose the answer would be That which neces sarily leads to right dying as death in its character is the result of life. All seem to admit that the child who dips must be regenerated. Then J say, if it is necessary for death ib is necessary for life, liife, in its tiiany streams, proceeds from one fountain, If the streams are right, the fountain must be right. What would be thought of the wisdom of parenta who should wait till their children are capable of 11 u derstanding the naturo of all their commands before they began tho pro cess of training ? What would be thought of the man who should wait till the scion had grown to florescence and fruitage before beginning to train it ? Can we suppose that God is less wise and prudent that he should wait till the child is capable of understand ing the nature of his laws before he be gins that spiritual tuition which is ne cessary to a virtuous life ? 7. Baptism depends upon spiritual fitness. What is baptism ? We say it is a sijn and seal. A sign of what ? Corruption? Xo! A sign of the in ward washing of the Holy Ghost. A ; seal of what? condemnation? grtiit? I'o Rrv. W.D. .v.v.Dear Jiroth- I trust you will pardon the liberty I take in thu:, publicly addressing you. 1 do so with unfeigned diffidence. I am a searcher after truth. My opiiuons, 111 relerence to a large number of sub jects, are merely in a formative state. Of many things I am simply "almost per suaded;" of many other things 1 am ex ceedingly doubtful; of verj many things lam as yet, utterly ignorant. In every thing I "sincerely desire to bo better in formed," and to 'know the truth tha1 the truth may make me free' from all erroneous impressions. The discussion in the columns of the Aflvocutf, on the question of Infant Salvation, is one of very great impor tance. This is true, not only because ii concerns us to know the moral status j and spiritual condition of children un der the gospel economy, iu ordei that their education may proceed upon a proper basis; but also because innumera ble parents are anxious to be assured that "it is well" with the little ones who have preceded them to the spirit land. More than one-half of the whole human race, we are told, die in infancy. None can deny that the benefits of the atonement are in some way applied to all iniants dying in infancy. Armini- ans especially, who plant themselves upon the glorious gospel doctrine of a universal atonement, are the proud champions of this truth; and it is no doubt in consequence of their champion ship, that modern Calvinists have been lea to give up the dogma of infant damnation. Rut the question is, how are the benefits of the atonement applied to infants dying beforo chey reach "the ago ot accountability ?" This is the pons aainorum of Arminian theology; and yet all must pass over it satisfac torily who would give assured comfort to the bereaved, or properly enforce the awful fact ot parental and doctoral re sponsibility. In accomplishing this passage, it be comes all to endeavor to base their belief upon conviction rather than upon mere authority. The opinions of learned divines upon this question are not of themselves satisfactory and conclusive. They must ho subjected by every think ing man to the scrutiny of reason and the decision of the insjiired oracles of revelation, before they can be either ac cepted or rejected. And reason impera tively demands that 110 doctrine shall be regarded as an integral part of divine revelation, unless it is found to har monize with all the other great doctrines of the Bible; forr.c truth eancver conflict with another truth. God can not con tradict himself. All seeming contra dictions in holy writ only serve to show that certain passages have been missin tcrprcted. It may be assumed, also, that the Bible teaches, either explicitly or im plicitly, all that it concerns us to know in reference to the plan" of salvation. With regard to man's present duty and final state, God has declared His desire. He cannot look upon sin with the least degree of allowance. To all he says, "Be yo holy, as T am holy." He willeth all men to be saved. Xeither has God any secret decrees. The great decree of election and reprobation has been pub lished from the foundation of tha world. Under the gospel dispensation, its only formula is, "He that believeth shall be saved; he that believeth n,ot shall be danine.d." Brother Thomas seems to have a lopt- cd the theory, of infant regeneration, in otder to escape tho legitimate conse quence of affirming the unconditional salvation of infants which would bo, in his opinion, to acknowledge the validi ty of the claims of Calvinism. Brother law. Rut without Intlinesn no man can. nee iie loru. iniants are not un der Condemnation; for they are not sin ners. They are not prepared for heaven. f-r they are not righteous. Sprung from a fallen race, they are the victims of a spiritual leprosy, which will, even when they become .sufficiently develop ed to become subjects of regenerating grace, incline tl.em to evil, and that continually. Hence they must be bom again. mm can infants, dying in in fancy, be regenerated? According to Rro. Yates, inasmuch as regeneration is ef fected by the spirit operating upon the piocesses of thought, they need father decloj,i)K-nt. u your first article.you in timated lmt faith in the only and uni versal condition ol salvation. Hence all who are saved must be capable of faith. AW, the?, what becomes of the infants who die in infancy? An answer to this inquiry will greatly oblige one who desires to be A Consistent Akmi.nia.v. their bond, and whose promise is perfor mance. If any one of you know such a man, make him your friend. You can only do so, however, hy assimilating his character. The reliable man is a man of good judgment. He does not. jump at con clusions. He is not a frivolous man. He is thoughtful. He turns over a sub ject in his mind and looks at it aii around HOW LONG AND HOW MANY How long do you think it took to write the Bible ? Fifteen hundred years T.i 1 r , rroiu mioses, who wrote Genesis, to John, who wrote Revelation, it was that long, long time. How many people helped to write it ? More than thirty. There were Matthew, Mark, Luke, Paul and Peter. There were Moses, and Ezra, and David, and Samuel, and Daniel. Some were shop herds, some farmers, some fishermen C..i.i . icm-iiKiiveis, some Kings, sonic judges, some princes ; some were learn ed ; some were unlearned ; and vet all agree iu what they write. How could that be ? Because God did all the thinking in the Bible. The thoughts in the Bible are all God's thoughts. These thirty men only did the writ ing. They wrote just what God told them. How many different sections of books arc there in the Bible. Sixty-six, all bound together, comprised in one beautiful whole. It is a blessed volume He is not a particular or a i Prize it above wide world. Receive it as the man of your counsel and the ,uide of your life. Your life can never be a failure if you follow its instruction ; it shall be a lamp to your feet and a light to your path. ..11.1.. ..!...! . I J .. . -1 vv. miicu man. ne sees inroiign a thing. He is apt to he a very reticent man. lie does not have to talk a great deal. He is moderate, not only in habits of body hut also of mind. He is not a passionate man ; if so by naturo, he has art o vei come 11 uy grace, tie is a sincere man, not a plotter or schemer. He docs not promise rashly. What he says may be relied on. He is a trust-worthy man: You feel safe with your property, or the administration of affairs in his bauds. He is a watchful, vigilant man. You feel secure iu his protection, lie is a brave man, for his conclusions are logi- This t reyarl a ths logical ucnspjnonro of Bro. ! Callv deducted from the Slue basis of late & theory I do nol charce him. however, with u) liut.tiuint; ent-U a cunscijiitnce. tortious. RELIGION AT HOME. Religion at home is more precious than at church, or in the world. Every day each family should worship as reg ularly as they cat. Have they time to eat . l,et the sue.' have food Open j the Lible and have God talk to tho family ; pray and praise in Song, and on bended knees ask mercies. A family without worship is a domestic or phanage, and a school of unbelief, sen suality, and sm. Without spiritual life at home, it will be wholly lacking or exceedingly thin abroad. Children will grow up Christless ; physical objects and carnal life will absorb attention and engiossal'l'ectioii. With pure sincere, ten der religion at home, children will begin to be Christians so soon as they learn of the Saviour's love and never know re bellion. Why should the offspring of saints be for one moment exposed to condem nation ? Why should they not know the Saviour so soon as they know sin ? Generally they will if Christ is honored ai tne iamu altar, Hut ho is not honored. Thousands upon thousands of Church-members live like infidels at home. The Rible is unread, praises never sung, prayer never heard. Can they not lead ? Why not let God speak to them out of his word ? Can they not pray? The Lord's Prayer can at least be repeated in concert. Is there no time to take counsel of God ? It is waste of time and waste, of life to ignore God. We can have no real home without him. It requires a Heavenly Father as well as earthly parents to make a sweet, healthful, absolute home. 7Jajitist Union. truth, and ho does not fear to maintain them. He is a good man, for no one can be thoroughly honest and truthful without being good. Is such a quality attainable ? Most assuredly so. It is not born, it is made. Character may be formed, of course then its oomponcnt parts may bo modeled to that formation. Exchange. DEAN STANLEY OX GOOD DEEDS. WALK IX THE LIGHT. It was wise as well as tender advice that the Quaker lady gave to one who went lo her in an hour of perplexity : 'What you have seen in tho light never doubt ii: the darkness." And turniim over the pages of Dr. Marlineau's "Hours of Thought,'' we come upon the same suggestive and most helpful sen timent : "In every earnest life there aro weary fiats to tread, with th; heavens out of sight Vo sun. moon -and not a tint of light upon the path below ; when the only guidance is (he faith of brigh ter hours and the secret Hand , we are too numb and dark lo feel." Rut be- Okkice Cor. Dawson & Hakueit Jsts rates of advertising: Spare. 1 tkjuare. 2Siurei, 3 Squares 4 Squares i Ool'mi; hi Col nil. 1 Colnmb IWEtK., 1 Moh 1 3 Mo!U.6 VoHa.i 1 I.a $3 00! 70C 130O t30l 13 00'! 20 00 ' US 00 lSOOf, 30l 41O0 2soo as 00; go 00 30 00 1 60 00,1 7C. 0M 60 0t , 78 00 , 140 OA t 1 00 1 00 3 001 ool fi 00 9 00 15 001 6 00 7 00 I 9 00 li 63 ; SO 00 1 33 00,1 76 OOL 140 0.11 -J60 l0 AUvfriiaeuiam. will be changed oao aver, tbre. mthe without additional charge. Fop rttj oth. er Aange there will be an extra charge of tw.nty Oj Uaoinch. Twenty Are per cent. It ldd to tae above rate for ipeclalooticea In the Loral col umn Terma. raah In adTance, nnleaa etbrrmlar .greed upon Tu. above r.tea'.r. cheaper ,l..u those of any other nn in o.-s.-.v. . -. u character and circulation . SAY NOT FORMER DAYS WERE BETTER. (Weslejan (H,) Adyoca'e.) Every now and then we are told that the Church is in a languishing state Infidels say so because thev wish it so. And good men lie down under the iuni- por tree and wail out tludr weariness mid impatience. Toor Elijah! Trrand old I rancis Asbury used to write terrible things against 'the dco- ple called Methodists" in his dav. V ivc spent manv honr "Journal,"which is his best life, -and if his occasional predictions had come true we would believe that his criticisms of the traveling preachers w nose disposition to marry gave him ucti trouble, were just. We hoi we hall not he charged with want of rev erence for the memory of one of tho truest successors of the Apostles if we say, that the indigo tinge was most apt to show itself in his diary, either just after fatigue from excessive traveling or preaching, or in connection with his frequent illnesses. hi THE OLDEST ENGINEER IN THE EXITED STATES. At the house of the Rev. T. F. Glenn, on the Kingston Circuit, we formed the very pleasant acquaintance of Mr. Paul Stephens.the oldest living engineer in the United States. He was born and bred iu England, and is now sixty-six years oil. He ran the first lailroad engine ever brought to this country. It ar rived November or December, l&H, and was nit up in the spring of 1832. Win. L. Marcy was then Governor of New The weary traveler in tne south of Spain, who, after passiug many an aird plain and many a bare hill, finds him self, at nightfall under the heights of Grenada, will hear plashing and rip pling, under the shade of the spreading trees, and along the side of the dusty road, the grateful murmur of running waters, of streamlets, whose sweet mu sic mingles with his dreams as he sleeps, and meets his ear as the first pleasant voice in the stillness of the early dawn. What is it? It is the sound of the ir rigating rivrdeta called into existence by the Moorish occupants ot Grenada five centuries ago, which, amidst all the changes of race and religion, have never ceased to flow. Their empire has fal len, their oreod has been suppressed hy fire and sword, their nation has been driven from the shores of Spain, and their places crumble into ruins; but this trace of their beneficial civilization still continues; and in this continuity j that which was good and wise and gen erotts in the gifted, but unhappy race, stilt lives on to cheor and refresh their enemies and thoir eonqueiors. Even so it is with the good deeds of those who have gone before us. Whatever there has been of grateful consideration, of kindly hospitality, of far-reaching gen erosity, of gracious charity.of high min ded justice, of saintly devotion these still food the stream of moral fertilization, which will run on when their place knows them no more, when even their names have perished. The vision of a noble character, tho glimpse of a new kind of virture, does not perish. A thing of goodness, like a thing of beauty, is a joy forever. Wesleyat, Advocate. fore such counsel of confidence can In come of practical use, it is evident that as th.-y do of educatian, and thirty two al'rt lUnof t ...... .1 1 . . - - . . uajs 01 menu'! and LIQUOR TRAFFIC. We are glad to sec that our editors and public men are more and more dis posed to calculate the enormous outlavs required by the overwhelming monopoly, and to compare thorn with the expendi tures for the necessities of life and for those things that minister to the rPl elevation and well being of the people. 11 is a one sided question. Reason, con science, political economy, social and civil consideration, all pronounce the liquor traffic as wasteful, corrupting and destructive of all material and moral in terests, and the verdict will yet be pro nounced against the monster evil. The Raleigh Observer, in estimating that North Carolina pays $8,500,900 for its liquor, while it only gives about $1,000, 000 for education and $261), 830 for re ligion, logically infers that its people "think eight times as much f.i,;.i- ... : " NONE BUT A PARENT. Few can tell a pathetic story so well as Dr. John Brown, of Edinburg, or have so many to tell. "I never," said he, can forget an inoident during the cholera of 1830. One morning a sailor ork, and hurried up Mr. Stephens that came to say I must go three miles down me engine ruigu;, make its first trip from Albany, X. Y., to Schenectady, a distance, of eighteen miles, on the fourth of July. But he had it completed on tho first day of July. Marcy came up the next day, and seeing she had been finished, said, "I can't wait : you must run her out." And he ran her at the rale of eight and a half miles per hour, from Albany- to Sehoiuiotadv. on the as a substitute, the free-gift comes uron all Adam's posterity to justification (not rege.iieiatiG.u.) Here "wish to ex plain the term justification jn this sense. Some of the writers upon this subject have made the mistake of supposing that justification applies to no one hut a sinner. JSro. L. and others cannot be ignormt of the three phases of justifica tion as explained in the books: Justifi cation by force of law justification by lorce ot testimony and justification bv ! 11110 building. Who arc tit De pardon. ny infant regeneration, and who will In a religious sens,., mankind can 011- ! U,'U,gC th l,,atl,s ,n . c l-bnrffloter of ly be embraced in two of these classes' ' T "''"' "' h's si.-iu- ooiori; o.tiii.siu sum oner, when No! How dare we incorporate by baptism into the visible tody of Christ one u hp is in a state of corruption and guilt ? Jo the Scriptures authorise baptism to be administered to the tin regenerate ? I will let the opposers of infant regeneration ansver these ques tions. S. Church membership depends up on spiritual fitness for acceptance with God members fhat are fit to belong tohis b.ody stones that are ,r7 to enter. building J.agwcll seems to have the same view 1 third. Mi. Nhmhon w.-. ..,.. But in arguing far the regeneration of j vears old, when he put up that engine He superintended the tunneling of all infants m infancy, they do not escape the difficulty. All infants do not live to an ago .f itecountability. It is an act of Divine Sovereignty which con signs such a vast number of infants to an early death. According to Bros. Thomas and Bagwell, they are regen erated unconditionally; they are remov ed from the. world, and consigned to heaven, without being consulted. They are not exposed to tho temptation, the sin, the possible damnation, ..f a pro. Sand Mountain 011 the Nashville and Chattanooga Railroad : length of tunnel, 2,220 feet, bight 1! feet For his skill ful and indefatigable supcrintendency of this work the X. ty ". Railroad Com pany prosuiitc.d hint a silver medal in is-"i.' He has for three years been superin tendent of tho engineering department of tho Limatiu Asylum at Columbus, the river to a village where it had brok en out with great furv. Off I set. W"e rowed in silence down the dark river, passing the huge hulks, and hearing the restlness convicts turning in their beds in their chains. The men rowed with all their might ; they had too many dying or dead at home to have the heart to speak to me. We got near the place It was very dark, but I saw a crowd of men and women on the shore, all shout ing for the doctor. We were near the shore when I saw a big old man, his hat off.his hair grey, his head partly bald. Ho said nothing, but turning thom all off with his arm, he plunged into the sea, and boforo I know where ho was, he had me in his arms. I was helpless as an in fant. Ho waded out with 1110, carrying me high up in his left arm, and with his right leveling every man or woman who stood in his way. It was big Joe, car rying me to see his grandson, Little .Toe. He bore me off to the poor convulsed we must, in our spiritual health, really assure our selves of those principles jusd truth that are to be our stay and comfort in days ot weakness fm.oi gloom. It is often because we new t- really learn anything in the light that we hav nothing to sustain us in darkness. T .. uu-i urn- religious Delicts is one thing, and to realize them to our intel ie is and cousciencies is another, and often very different thing. The want for us all in these days, a., in most pre mous tiays, is a living faith a "laith that work by love and purities the heart," Possessing this. w. slmlt I.. able to walk even through the vallev of tne shadow ot death and fear no evil t hnxtian il oriel. ABO UT C'HURtirrSTrTEPLES. m fFram the Jourr.al of Commerce ) Ni:w York, October 20, 178. JFditor of Journal of Commerce : I lease state how, wher?, and when the custom of putting steeples or spires on church buildings originated; also, if they are intended t . serve any other purpose at present than that of belfries and architectural effect. J. T. R Reply The tower was originally a structure by itself. Feudal castles had a main tower or "keep" design for de fence, the walls being immensely thick, with narrow windows or holes far above the ground. Church towers were con structed after a similar design, and at first were invariably separated from the main building. They were designed chiefly to give an imposing appearence to the structure. After a while the tow er formed part of the church edifice, flanking or decorating the middle of the facades. The earliest were square, then round.and later of polygonal form. In this country the- were elected partly for ar chitectural effect, and partly not reveal at a greater distance the locality of the church. There was also, with many, a devotional idea, in thus pointing, as with a finger, to the heavens toward which all trito worship should arise. Ohio, but having been relieved of his ' bov, and dared me to leave him till he duties at that place, be is now sta ving ; was better. He did get better, but Rio- He had the 1 . .. a- - " """ w"l ,s 't ! wiin 1.1s son-in-law, ISrother Glenn, at ! Joe was dead that night ! unconditional election. the parsonage of Kingston Circuit, : disease on him when he earned me Again. All Arminians at this day a "roe lwlron 1 ""ici-ence. Jle is a member j away from the boat, but his heart was nevsr forget hp was." o '- - iiuiatwfi uueinoasc. isei'ctca. IllKlllieritliili lie lovi-.w.r 1.,,,. I , 1 " ' '"V "o'ee -., ,, . 1 ., ,. - ... - ....... ...in u mi- ,.....,,. t, ,,n,- ....,-. ,1 . f ,i fi.. ,...i ru ... "c .11. j,. , iiurcii, rsoiit 11. aiii is .m : set 11111111 his hov. I can ...1 i. . ... I---.- ftin. i (iic , " ........... ni "iiiuy, 111 U1C sensn 1 .,t: . , . ,,- .... . ' ... uoii. ...iniL i no nas coinmitteil sm y ,1 . . . 1 c, . . - vnv man ami an intelligent l. ii'isti.-in : tm-.i . v ... imi-umi - 1 II It IU 111 1 III I II II lllllllllll fl.nl .-1 L-i-n. AT hnillH..n1 ..i.i.ii. .. " ... ............. - .V .. - - ......v r.l.r... 1 I 'ivn'ri ' "il-l" IIIIIL'l i.S l',ri:ill.LTLIM.IX 111 nrtVlC-rt ' ifMillr. The Memorv. There is no better way to strengthen the memory than by the habit of speaking the e.ract truth. In some minds there is a strong ten dency to exaggerate or diminish, to magnify or minify. Various motives operato to encourage this tendency. Aside from its moral bearings, the habit of exaggerating is injurious as af fecting the memory. It is not enougl; that one is able to recall facts in a general way. Too much minuteness indeed, may not be desirable. But whenever it is important that details should be given, exactness is absolutely essential ; not the least coloring f a fact is justifiable. You may draw upon your imagination to any reasonable ex tent 10 illustrate a principle or a sen tinient, for the cases are not supposed to have necessary existence save in the imagination ; and if the ju-inciplc or sentiment is thus brought more distinct ly to view, the precise object sought is gained, the principle and not the imagi-iiiii-e or illustrative facts being the cen- j tral point ot observation. Rut it is otherwise with the relation of events that have transpired or objects seen; the imagination has nothing to do with the relation and should be utterly excluded, and the naked facts only presented. Exchange. times as much of whiskey as they do of vw.nsiiau laiui. in intelligent peo ple long submit to such a disgraceful anomaly ? Christian Weekly. Rut there is a way to be adding ever increasing beauty and glory to the house ofCiod. Oh, that wo may prize it more and more! Go jut into the lanes and highways; find some outcast wretch some stray fragment of the universal wreck of man, some trampled stone in the miry clay; sound aloud the word of the Lord.that harp of blessed music by which the (spirit draws mankind to Christ. Ry-and-by, under the power of God, blessing the word, that soul is awakened to a sense of ruin and want, m il i l.t 111 the strong captivity of the truth, to Christ. No sooner does he touch a man, than the virture of a new life comes unto him, and he lives. The love of God is shed abroad in his heart. Tho beautiful garniture of inward graces, more precious than the most fine imhl adorns him. He is united to Chrisr an, I through him to God. Here is the honor of the Church, the prcciousness of the gospel; and the glory of the grace of God. How wonderful that coiiiininiien- tion of life, that resurrection from the dead, that ascension of the soul "to sit in heavenly daces with Christ!" Look unto the lock whence he was hewn and the h.de of the pit whence he was digged! How is God P-lon'fio.l in such an addition to his Church? What joy is it to the angels that d j his will? Uy such is the Church l,.,;i.i;.. Of God. TllllS does it l-iso tnu-nwl They are thy iewels. dniirt,tr f Zion; "thy walls, salvation, thy gates iraise. Ifsctange. ' A SHARP LA WYElt CAUGHT. One of those shrewd, sharp, and sar tstic lawyers of that class who tak.. demoniacal joy and unspeakable prid-i in twisting a witness into a labyrinth of difficulties had occasion, some tine ago, to cross-examine a gentleman of some little prominence. The sharp lawyer manatred.aftor ' " --sv.a nivilinu liiaU" uvering, to so confuse the witness that the only answer he could obtain to his (uestion was, "I don't recollect." When the lawyer had this answer re turned to him a score or so of times, h.s patience gave out. "Tell me, Mr. ." he exclaimed, with biting sarcasm can you ever remember anything?" I can," was the response. Can you carry your memory back for twenty years, and tell me a single instance that happened then?" "Yes, I think I can," returned the witness, who had regained some compo sure. "Ah!" exclaimed the lawyer, gleeful ly rubbing his hands in orthodox legal fashion. Now, that is consoling. What is this instance which you remember so well?" Well, sir, I remember that, twenty years ago, when you were admitted to the bar, your father came to me to bor row thirty dollars to buy yon a suit that you might make a presentable appear ance at Commencement, and I have a listinct recollection that vour father never paid the thirty dollars back to mo, Confusion changes hands at this point of tho proceedings, and the lawyer dismisses the witness without more ado. Nashville Advocate. Renew your subscription to the. Ai- VOfATK. I Vice. 00 1K.. mill in -

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