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JUDGE'S CHARGE
TO COOPER JURY
VERY LENGTHY
Charge Read at Opening looi
and fate of Accused
Is With Jury
BIG CROWD IN COURT
Mrs. Carniack and Her Son Were in
Court This Morning Three De
fendants Came In Early An Un
usually Large Detachment of Po
lice and Deputies Around Defend
ants Judge's Charge Contains
1(1,000 Words and is Said to Be
liongest Charge Ever Submitted to
n Jury in This Country Resume
of the Charge.
(By Leased Wire to The Times)
Nashville, Tenn., March 17 Judge
iHiirt arrived at the criminal court
room shortly after 9 o'clock this
morning and Immediately went to an
ante-room to look over the stenog
rapher's transcription of his charge
to the jury In Cooper-Sharp case
which he read to the Jury this morn
ing. .,
. Mrs. Carmack, : the widow of the
slain statesman, and little Ned Car
mack, her son, were present in the
court-room early, together with the
attorneys for the state and ; some
close friends of the family.
The defendants came into court at
9:15 o'clock. Colonel Duncan B.
Cooper, for the first time, abandoned
his seat at the end of the table re
served for the counsel for the de
fense, and took a position facing the
judge, where he could Bee the jury as
well. He gat with Robin Cooper, his
son, and co-defendant, and his two
beautiful daughters, Mrs. Burch and
Mrs. Wilson. John D. Sharp, the
third defendant, and Mrs. Sharp took
their seats a little further back, at
the side of the table.
It was noticeable that an unusually
large detachment of police and depu
ties were stationed about the de
fendants. What this increase in
their personal guard means Is only a
matter of conjecture, but it Is be
lieved to have been made in order to
prevent any untoward demonstration
in the event of a speedy verdict.
The auditorium and gallery of the
court-room were both crowded at 9
o'clock, the convening hour, and the
audience carried its usual air of alert
ness and keen curiosity.
Judge Hart's charge, it Is said, was
the longest document over submitted
to a jury in a criminal case In this
country. His honor returned to his
8e.it on" the bench at 9:25 o'clock and
immediately sent for the Jury which
was polled by the clerk as to its read
iness to receive the Instructions of
tho court.
Judge Hart stepped down from the
bench, took his seat In the witness
chair, immediately facing trie jury,
and at 9:32 began reading his charge.
"State of Tennessees vs. Duncan B.
Cooper, Robin J. Cooper! and John D.
Sharp. Gentlemen of the Jury," be
gan his honor.
The charge contained 16,000 words.
It would make about 13 columns In
n newspaper, set In ordinary minion
typo'.
Judge Hart defined at length the
four grades of homicide murder In
tho first degroo, murder In the sec
ond degree, voluntary manslaughter,
and tnvoluntavy manslaughter. He
carefully explained to the. Jury the
law as regards malice and previous
threats. , .. - ,'.
He said the Jury entered upon
their Investigation with the presump
tion that the defendants were Inno
cent, but that this presumption must
he overturned If the proof were
strong enough to convince the Jury
beyond a reasonable doubt that the
defendants are guilty of some form
- of homicide. . ;,"
Judge Hart next took up a jdlscus
slon of the law regarding the doc
trine of self-defense. He went Into
this subject at some length.: Next
the judge read to the jury the pun
ishment, its various grades which
the law provides in cases of convic
tion of the respective grades of homl
y cldo.. He told the Jury that they
were the judges of the law and facts,
urged the Importance of their taking
the law as laid down to them by the
court. You are the exclusive judges
of the facts In the case, "gentlemen,"
said Judge Hart. "Yon must not im
agine that the court has any opinion
regarding' them." .
Judge Hart then went Into the law
ns applied to clrcuuTstantlal evidence
pa4 twUivJt upon ttt watiUnd
credibility of witnesses, which were
to be judged by the jury.
The latter part of the charge and
the most detailed portion, dealt with
the respective theories of the case, as
presented by the state and by the
defense from their interpretation! of
the proof. ;
It required Judge Hart one hour
and 45 minutes to read his charge.
Judge Hart devoted 41 minutes to
.finishing with the legal portion of
the case. Before taking up the two
theories of the state and defense, re
spectively. Judge Hart took occasion
to remind the jury that any member
of it was to disregard any fact in his
knowledge that did not come from
the proof in the case, and that it
would be highly Improper for such
juror to communicate any such fact
to his fellow jurors.
Judge Hart started In on the theory
of the state at 10:12 and finished it In
exactly 20 mlnuteS". He instructed
the jurors that if they found in ac
cordance with the theory of the state
it was their duty.' to. bring in a verdict
of "guilty" as to all three defendants.
He said the jury, however, could con
vict with or without finding mitiga
tion. The court then turned to the
theory of the defense, and devoted
40 minutes to it. He instructed the
jurors that if they found according to
this theory it would be their duty to
acquit all of the defendants.
Suppressed excitement, prevailed In
the court room as the final sentence
was read to the jurors and his honor
instructed 'the jurors to retire and
consider their verdict.
, There is speculation concerning
the probable verdict. It is practi
cally conceded that. John D. Sharp
will be acquitted, 'but there is a di
vergence of opinion as to the two
Coopers. The attorneys for the state
hope for a conviction In the case of
Colonel Cooper, and possibly of
Robin Cooper.
Attorneys for the defense say
Robin Cooper will be cleared, and
that the worst they expect for Col
onel Cooper will be a hung jury.
It is regarded as not Improbable
that Judge Hart will, if necessary,
keep the Jury together for days, even
a week, as he did in the Cox case sev
(ContlmiPd on Pace Two.)
EDWARDS VS. RALEIGH
Affirmed by the Supreme
Court of North Carolina
Mr. Edwards Was Injured in 1007 by
Falling Into Cellar Opening on
Martin Street Judgment of Xon
Suit At October Term, 1009.
The supreme court of North Caro
lina today handed down opinions in
sixteen cases. Among these (s the
case of W. W. Kdwards vs. City of
Raleigh, in which the supreme court
upholds the action of the lower court.
It will be remembered that Mr.
Edwards fell into a cellar opening on
Martin street by the side of the Citi
zens National Bank building in No
vember, 1907, and suffered severe in
juries. In his complaint he alleged
that, the fall so injured him that he
lost the entire sight of one of his eyes
and was otherwise cut and bruised
about the head and other parts of his
body. He asked damages In the sum
cf $5,000. '
When the case finally came to trial
the plaintiff was "non-suited" under
the Hinsdale act and appealed. Tht
opinion of the court affirms tne action
of Judge W. H. Neal, who heard tht.
case, in allowing the motion to dis
miss. '' . V j ':
The full list of opinions filed is as
follows:
Kinstbn vs. Woolen; no error.
Royal vs. Thornton, from Samp
son; error.
Rivenbark vs. Teachey, from Dup
lin; no error.
Hlckson Lumber Co. vs. Gay Lum
ber Co., from Lenoir; affirmed.
Hlckson Lumber Co., vs. Gay Lum
ber Co., (Pou's appeal); reversed.
Sloan ft Sweeney vs. Hart, from
New Hanover; partial new trial, each
party to pay own cost of printing and
one half of the costs' or supreme
court. -
Edwards vs. City of Raleigh; af
firmed.
Pearson vs. Millard, from Bun
combe; no error.
Taylofi vs. , Oates, from Cumber
land; dismissed under Rule 17.
Southport, Atlantic Terminal Rail
road Company vs Gossler, from
Brunswick; dismissed under Rule 17.
Page vs. R. ft C. Railroad Co., from
Robeson; dismissed under Rule 17.
Massengill- vs. Hodges, from, Har
nett; dismissed under Rule 17.
Lanier ys. Rayner, from Martin,
per. curiam; affirmed. ,
Mlzell vs. Miiell, from Martin, per
curiam; affirmed.
Koonce vs. A. C. L. Railroad Co.,
from Wilson, per curiam; affirmed.
Archie vs. Roper Lumber Co., from
oubIqw, get surlaui S.nueft
NEW TARIFF BILL
IS PRESENTED TO
CONGRESS TODAY
Bill Introduced in House by
Payne, is Minimum and
Maximum Bill
PROVISIONS OF BILL
Minimum Kates of Duty Are Con
tained 4n First Section and the
Free List For the Minimum Rates
in in the Second Section of the' Bill.
Third Section Contains the Maxi
mum Rates Maximum Rate Does
Not Go Into Effect In Any Event
Until Sixty Days After the Passage
of the Act Some Difficulties of
the Committee.
(By Leased Wire to The Times)
Washington, March 17 The new
tariff bill Introduced by Mr. Payne in
the house is a minimum and maxi
mum tariff bill. The minimum rates
of duty are contained in the first sec
tion, and the free list for the mini
mum rates is in the second section
of the bill. The third seel ion con
tains the maximum rates, which are
generally equal to the minimum
rates and 20 per cent, in addition
thereto and the articles on the free
list, in the transfer to the third sec
tion, bear a duty of 20 uercentum ad
valorem as a maximum';' rate. The
maximum rate does not go into ef
fect In any event until sixty days
after the passage of the act. By the
fourth section the minimum rates are
applied to all goods imported from
any country which gives the United
States as good terms by way of tariff
as that given to any other nation, and
the maximum rates are applied to
those countries which discriminate
against the trade of the United States
or fail to give the United ..States
tariff rates as favorable as those
given any other nation. This section
is self-acting, making It the duty of
the executive to collect the duties,
whether minimum or maximum, In
accordance with the terms of the bill,
leaving it open to the courts to de
cide upon the legality of the action.
. One problem that confronted the
committee was the question of rev
enue. The business of all commercial
nations has been depressed for nearly
two years, and thus has affected our
commerce and greatly reduced our
revenues, so that we have a large
deficit, but the revenues under the
present law are improving from
month to month, as business condl
(Contlnued on Pase Two.)
FAST TRAIN RUNS WILD
Several Persons Are Killed
in Crash
Boston and Mont real Express Dashes
Into Montreal Station Without
Drivers and Lands In ladies' Wuit
ing Room Twelve People Were
Killed.
(By Leased Wire to The Times)
Montreal, March 17 The Boston
& Montreal express which left Boston
at 8:30 last night and reached here
shortly after 9 o'clock today fan wild
Into the big Montreal terminal sta
tion at forty miles an hour and
crashed through a granite wall and
landed the . engine Into the ladies'
waiting room. Six were killed and
five seriously injured. Most of the vic
tims are women and children. Two
miles out from the station the break
ing of a stay bolt hurled the engineer
and fireman from the cab and the
train thundered on without drivers.
Five bodies have already been recov
ered from the ruins.
FIGHTING IN PHILIPPINES.
Band Of Moros Attack Detachment of
Constabulary. ,
(By Cable to The Times)
Manila, March 17 A belated dis
patch from Lake Lamar states that a
band of hostile Moros attacked Lieu
tenant Furlong's detachment of con
stabulary at Bordong on March 8.
After a sharp fight eight Moros and
two members of the constabulary
were left dead on the field, while two
soldiers and one civilian were
wounded.. .
A company of the 26th Infantry
and a detachment of couti have gone
IS
FOR STEALING
Young White Man of the
City Accused of a
Serious Crime
THE VICTIM WAS DOPED
Gordon N. Morgan Says He Was
Doped by Prwl Miller and When
I'nder the Influence of the Drug
That Miller Proceeded to Go
Through His Pockets The Alleg
ed Theft Occurred About a Month
Ago in Morgan's Room, Miller Fur
nishing Whiskey Miller Drank
Out of One Bottle and Gordon Out
of Another Trial This Afternoon.
Fred Miller, a young white man of
this city, was -arrested last night at
the corner of East and Davie
streets by Deputy Sheriff J. P. Stell
on the charge of robbery.
Miller was standing in front of the
little cafe, the only remaining place
of its kind : In "deep East." The
sheriff was seen approaching am;
someone said:
"Wonder what Bud Stell is coming
down here for?
"Coming after me, I guess," an
swered Miller. ;
His predictions came true. He ap
proached Miller and read to him a
warrant charging him with assault
ing and robbing one Gordon N. Mor
gan ,a young white man employed by
the Baker-Thompson Lumber Com
pany, of this city. Miller protested
that he did not even know Morgan
and had never had any dealings with
him. He TventWftiy with the offi
cer and was lodgud in jail last night.
He will be tried before Squire Batch
elor this afternoon at. 5 o'clock.
The Robbery.
The robbery took place on Febru
ary 15th, more than a month ago. It
seems that Gordon Morgan approach
ed Miller on the night of February
15th and asked him where he could
find some "licker." Morgan said he
was sick and needed some. Miller
told him that he could get It for him,
and, taking a five dollar bill, he went
away and bought two pints. When
he returned with the booze and four
dollars In change the two went to
Morgan's room. Morgan drank out
of one bottle and Miller out of the
other.
Morgan Was "Doped."
Morgan claims that he was doped.
He said that ho had only drunk a lit
tle of the whiskey when his head be
gan to feel queer and in a few min
utes he was unconscious. He did not
know anything about what had hap
pened to him until later, Fortunate
for him, others at his boarding house
were stirring. One of them, a young
man who is a student at King's Bus
iness College, came Into the room
and caught Miller in the very act of
going through Morgan's pockets. He
forced Miller to restore everything
to the victim. So far as can be learn
ed, he did not get away with any
thing. Others can testify to these
facts, it is asserted, and It looks dark
for Miller.
He will be tried this afternoon be
fore Justice Batchelor. Mr. B. C.
Beckw'ith will appear for the state.
It will be remembered that Miller
was arrested and held for several
days as a suspect In the famous
Smith murder case which is to be
tried next week. When the Idea of
having a hearing before the coronet
was abandoned he was released, as it
was not thought by those in authority
that he had any connection with the
murder. If he is found guilty of
doping and robbing Morgan, it may
serve to quicken and reawaken sus
picion as to his connection with the
Smith case.
MlHer is a very quiet, Inoffensive
young man and does not look the part
part of a hardened criminal.
J, E. COX WANTS
CONSULAR POST
Washington, March 17. J. Elwood
Cox, defeted republican candidate for
governor of North Carolina In the Inst
election, Is a candidate for a position
In the diplomatic or consular service
of the United States. Although a re
publican, Mr. Cox has the backing of
the di iioerats In congress. Ills name
was placed before the president today
by Senator Overman and Representa
F
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MILLER
UNDER
ARRET
tive SiUftlU
ANY DETECTIVE
WILL RECEIVE
THE SAME FATE
Death Warning Follows Report
That Detectives Will Com
plete Petrosino's Work
A StNSAIION EXPECTED
In Spite of Placards Bearing the
Gruesome Kscutcheon of the Maria,
the American Detectives Are Bent
I'pon Ferreting Out the Slayer of
. Lieutenant Joseph Petrosino
Prince Cuto, a Socialist, Intends to
Make . Revelations in Parliament
Concerning the Relations of the
Mann With the Sicilian Police Po
lice Are Powerless.
(By Cable to The Times)
Rome, March 17 With incredible
boldness the members of the Mafia
fhf.ve issued a warning to any other
American detective who may come
here to complete the work begun by
Lieutenant Joseph Petrosino, who
was assassinated A Palermo. This
death warning follows close upon the
heels of a report that other detec
tives will come from the United
States and not only carry on the work
commenced by Petrosino, but bend
their energies to ferret out the slayer
of the New York detective.
Placards bearing the gruesome
escutcheon of the Mafiia have been
circulated and posted in prominent
places. Notices bearing the insignia
of the deadly organization have been
sent Into the newspaper offices. In
the face of this avalanche of warn
ings' are threatening letters the po
lice seem powerless.
The Italian government has sent
its best detectives into Sicily to aid
in the hunt for Petrosino's assassins.
Impetus to the investigation was
lent today by another assassination
thought to be the work of the Mafia.
The body of an unidentified man,
well dressed and apparently educat
ed, was found on the outskirts of
Palermo stabbed to death and' with
two daggers still sticking in the
trunk.
The police at first thought that this
was a confederate of Petrosino's in
his Sicilian investigation and are
positive that the, two murders are
linked together in some manner.
Prince Cuto, a socialist, intends to
make revelations In parliament con
cerning the relations of the Mafia
with the Sicilian police. A sensation
is expected. ,
MANY PEOPLE TAGGED
Day a Great Success in
Every Way
Kltort of the Children in Behalf of
the High School Is Very Successful.
Many Dollars Collected and Kvery
lmdy Has Lots of Fun.
Tag! Tag! Have you been
tugged? Oh, such fun In Raleigh to
day! And oh, the dollars, halves,
quarters, dimes, nlckles, and even
pennies that have been tinkling into
the little cigar boxes today. :
The sun was very considerate and
shone brightly all dayr there was
just enough wind to set the tags
aflutter, so the children could get in
a good day's work. They were out
bright nnd early today, and before
the day is over they will have a glo
rious amount to swell the treasury of
the high school. The old debt on the
furniture has already vanished., be
fore the great result of the morning's
work. Soon this morning u little
bunch of eleven children came In
with all their tags gone and fifty dol
lars In their boxes. By noon a num
ber had as much as $10 and $12 In
their boxes. ,
One little girl had $5.00 to start
the' day with, her father, Dr. Cooper
Curtis, giving her that encouraging
start.
Another child was near Christ
church this morning, when the peo
ple were going and coming to nnd
from Lenten services and tagged 50
people before her breakfast.
Hurrah for Mrs. Barbee, tho first
one to be tagged. Master Miguel
Ellas, who was the first one to start
out, put the little green tag on her..
When the gentleman was found
vUo promised,. ilQ lor big lag It
proved to be Manager Weaver, of the
Gaiety Theatre. Mr. Weaver divided
his $10 among the crowd who sur
rounded him, and when he escaped he
was covered In the little fluttering
pieces of green card-board.
M. S. J. Wynne, who is always in
terested in everything for the good
of the city is vicing with Mr. Weaver
in the number of his tags. He even
has one pinned on the back of his
collar, and as he passed along the
street today he was a good example
for others to follow.
The Gem moving picture managers
were right in l he spirit of the occas
ion, giving a quarter for every tag
that was offered today, not refusing
any.
It. was worth a trip around the
city today just to t-ce the fun. The
tags swung from belts, watch fobs,
button holes, caps, lace collars, and
every conceivable place where one
could be fastened. Even the horses
and dogs were decorated. One of
the first tugs to appear' ort the street
was that on Mr. Frank .folly's dog,
who was lying; in front of the store
wearing his tag very proudly.
Mr. Billy Boylan was seen coming
down the street horseback, about
noon today, with a little, ugly, shaggy
dog following at his horse's heels,
wearing a tag around his neck.
The members of the Vernon Stock
Company were wearing their tags to
day, even the baby of the company.
But the real advantages of Tag
Day have been left for the men and
maids to find out. It was interesting
to watch the pretty girls as they
looked with the question in their
eyes, a smile, and then, May 1 tag
you?" "Sure," would be the. reply,
as the victim submitted joyfully to
any number of tags, waiting in de
light while dainty white fingers fas
tened the tags on. Then dropping a
dollar or more into the little box the
victim walked off murmuring it was
worth it and the fair one went on up
the street to the next willing victim.
Such a chance to meet the girl you
had been wanting to.
Mrs. Charles Gattis chaperoned a
merry crowd to the depot, and such
fun as they had.
The girls would like to know the
(Continued on Pane Two.)
SERVIARUSHINGTROOPS
Are Gathering on the Bosnian
Frontier
Servia is Wrought to Highest
Pitch of Enthusiasm and is Bush
ing All Her Troops to the Frontier.
Austria Also Mobolizing Army.
(By Cable to The Times)
Buda-Pest, March 17 -Servia Is
rushing all her troops to the Bosnian
frontier. : Austria has already mobo
lized a strong detachment upon her
frontier. Both movements are look
ed upon to be defensive although Ser
via is feverishly arming her men.
The men in the field for Servia now
number 75,000 men.
The Servians are wrought to the
highest, pitch of patriotic enthusiasm.
In her army are men ranging from 18
to 50.i Mere boys of sixteen have
been sent from their homes to bear
arms. '. ..
down Prince Will Take Field.
Vienna, March 17 Crown Prince
Franz Ferdinand is preparing to take
the field within a week as commander-in-chief
of the army.
Warlike preparations continue and
apparently Servia and Austria arc on
the verge or a great clash. Servia
has 125,000 men read to put In th"
field.
TREASURY OUTLOOK
GETTING BRIGHTER
Washington, March 17. Declaring
the treasury outlook today Is better
than It has been before in months, As
sistant Secretary oi the Treasury
t'oolldge has authorised, 'n '. statement
giving figures' to show a marked Im
provement co far as government re
ceipts are concerned. In It he says;
"Tliere Is no foundation for the wildly
circulated report that the payment -of
over J.'iO.OUO.OOO of ' claims against the
government now due has been post
poned by the treasury for want of
ready cash.
"On the. contrary, the department Is
abreast of demands upon It In honoring
requisitions, nnd no necessary .pay
ments are postponed for future action.
"All claims are met as fast as appror
prlatlons therefor are made by con
gress. While the appropriations and
expenditures of the government are In
creasing annually and the expenditures
for the current fiscal year are largely
above the revenues for the year, the
available cash In the treasury . equal
to all demands that may be made upon
It for some time. The revenues from
imports have recently shown substan
tial gains and should these, continue,
the treasury Is In good condition to
await the approaching readjustment
of the tartffV .,
THE SOUTH AND
ITS POSITION
ON NEW TARIFF
Southern Congressmen on
Ways and Means Committed
Urge South's Interests
FACTS BROUGHT OUT
Southern States Were Not Repre
sented on the Sub-committee of the
Ways and Means Committee Which
Framed the New Tariff Bill, But
the Democratic Member of the
Full Committee Made Every Effort
to Bring Out Every Important Fact
Regarding the Articles Named In
the Tariff, Which Are Produced in
the South What They Asked For.
(By Leased Wire to The Times)
Washington, March 17 Although
the soul hern states are not repre
sented on the sub-committee of tho
ways and means committee which
framed the tariff bill, the democratic
members of the full committee made
every effort, during the hearings
which preceded the deliberations of
the republican members, to bring out
every important fact regarding the
articles named in the tariff which
are produced in the south.
A number of congressmen from
southern states appeared before the
committee and the arguments pre
sented for securing protection for the
industries in the south formed one of
the features of the hearings.
The influence of the American Su
gar Refining Company, the so-called
sugar trust, on the cane sugar In
dustry, was Interestingly discussed
by Colonel D. D. Colcock, of New
Orleans, representing the tobacco
association of Danville, Va., urged
that the duty on Turkish tobacco be
increased from 35 cents a pound to
$1.85 a pound, which is the duty im
posed by the Dingle'y tariff on Suma
tra leaf. The further claim was made
that the Turkish tobacco is in a
large measure supplanting the bright
tobacco raised in Virginia, North
Carolina, and South Carolina, and
that the Turkish government prohib
its the importation of this American
tobacco.
The peanut schedule was the sub
ject for an interesting hearing, at
which Representatives Maynard and
Lassiter, of Virginia, and Clark of
Florida appeared to support the con
tentions of various peanut .growers.
The delegation asked for an increase
in the duty on peanuts to 2 cents a
pound. The republican members of
the ways and means committee took
occasion to banter the southerners
for requesting protection to the ex
tent of an increase of 300 per cent,
in the duty.
Representatives of the lumber In
dustry in the southern states pre
senled strong argument in favor pf
the retention of the duties imposed by
the Dinglcy tariff on lumber. They
claimed that the removal of the
t riff would bring them in competi
tion with the low grade of lumber ot
Canada and other countries and low
wages paid In other countries.
Mica, which is mined In Alabama,
Georgia, South Carolina, North Caro
lina and Virginia, was one of the
articles on which Increased duties
were sought.. A new classification
also was asked for this article.
Clay-producing companies in the
south earnestly advocated that the
tariff on clays be increased $1.00 a
ton. Representatives of the rice In
dustry declared that the destruction
of this industry would result If a
lower duty than that provided In the
Dingley bill r,ere placed on rice.
The growers of sea-island cotton
in Florida and several other southern
states urged the necessity for a duty
on their article, claiming that the
destruction of the industry is threat
ened. The citrus fruit growers of
Florida also asked for protection.
Child Kldnappfd.
(By Leased Wire to The Times)
Chicago, March 17 The police are
seeking the five year bid son of L. M.
Askley, an attorney, who . was kid
napped last night by, a woman. A
neighbor said that while the child
was playing in the front yard at dustc
a woman of dark complexion Appar
ently forty years old,, - Jed. the boy
away. She was Joined by man and
the three took a street car going
down town, , ,
ill-',