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. 0' ; . Qora .are tho Plans of fair deligJufal Petce,
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LOUISIANA TREATY.
'is the te dcote Mf. Gf jfwo!d tnstidri
caiiiT for certain papers rtlitie'to the
touWwi Treary, throwj 4:oBfideraklr
lieKt o hat fubjeft, ani eihiMts a fair
ieef tbe different opinions held rfper
,nir the cefHon, we (hall give it at code
riH!e length.
Mr. Grifwnlrl, Uidthat bvH vert
in? to the meffage of th Prcfidcnt
jefpcftin the treaty ntf conven
tions !ate)v concluded between the
United Stes. aud -the French go.
rerntLenr, he fund tha th.Prcfi
dent, Oak'ng on the fubjea oh
ferves " as perrr.anent arr3ngements
for this ebje& require ffm-s and de
liberation, it is for your confidera
tion wbsthr you will not forthr
tnsk? uich tfimpomv provi
foT the eefcrvatio in the
- -
fions
mn while, ofordet amd tranquil:
y in th country, as the ifc may
-co 'ire " He Tscornends to the
ir? mediate attention of Congrefs the j
nj(Tie'of fome temporary laws..
Th:s benff the cafe. ?nd the O.ihjett
bein abou t to be brought be l ore
:th-H-iff. itbccam': important that
tlipy fliuM.k.nQw d?(linftlv whi
tbey hsd obta?ried bv th Treaty ;
atd whether there were any territo
ry be'onaror to the United States to
take poftefllon oT, or any new fub
jirts to govern. InafmucTv as'if no
new territory -r fubjSs were re
quired, -it vs idle to pais 'ven tem
yTary laws for the occupation of
the one, or the government of the
other. He bdieved it would bv ad-
r:itted that bv the exprefs terms of
the treaty the United StUe$hd nei
ther acquired aew territory or new
fu'bjeas. Tif part, of the Treuy,
hjiving relationj-tpthis point, is thui
euprefted:
" Whtreas, by article the third
of the treaty concluded at St.
Hdcfaufo, the oh Vendemaire, an.
9 (lfr. O'iober i8do) betweeu the
I'irfl Cnnful of the French' Repub
Vr: and his Catholic M?ijfty, it was
,?red as follows ;
" HisCathdlic Majeily, prom'fes
and engages on his part, to cede tt j
ths, French Republic fix months zf- 1
ter the full and entire execution of
the conditions nd flipulations here-j
relative to his Royal Highnefs ' Connecticut in afkmg of the Ex
the Duke of P3r.-n3, the colony or ; cuti vet whether indeed wehd anew
province of Louifnns, with the ?m j acceilin f territory aud ofcitizeni,
extent that it how has m the hands j j or, ss that gentleoun had plealed to
of Spmp, and that it had when i eprels himfelf, fubjetts to govern.
France poiffiTed it ; and fuch s it liH" hoped the gntiema.i would -ex
fhould bn affr tha treaties fibf j j cufe a fin a 11 Sanation from his own
qsicntiy entered ipto btweeR-Spatn.'l ; pKrafeolnsy. fince ntwithftandiug
and other fttes.,r And w'hereais. !ri;; th preddeftion which fame go-
puriuance of tnt treaty, aud parti-
cularly f the third article, the j
t tench Republic has n mcontefli- Sj afked for himTelf th uTe of fuch as
hh. Me to the, domain and to the U were more fjmdiar to Amines ears
pofFaflion of the fid ..territory . Theljaad American conflituttor.s.
F:rftCoofulof the French Repub- ; The Executive has laid before th-s
he delvring Iq "give to the United ; Houfe an in ftruntat which he tells
itaies z Itrong. proof of his friend- us has been duly ratinedi Cotiveving
.fhiff, dcth hertby cede to ths faidiU tha United States the coo ntrv
united btates in the nime of the
French Republic, forever and in
full toyereiputv. the fa:d territory.
with all its rights and appurtenan
ces,a? fuM and m the fame manner as
they hava been acquired by the
French Republic in virtuS of the
abve mentioned treatv, conclaied
with his catholic majeftv.
ny this article u aooearsthtt iri a
ircaiy Dween 5pam V ranC?, bpaiT'ii
itipulated to cede to France upon j
certam ceQdrt,onS, th-. province of J
UMiiliana. 1 he treaty between ths' j J
United States-ena the French go
vernment does not aicertain whether j
the(e terms have been complied with j
by Frfince, or whsther the cefJ
on has aftually been made by
pain to france. All that
appears
is a promife made by Spain to cede.
if the ternasftipulatedby France have
not been complied with, and Spam
his nt delivered, the province to
-tranrp. tKon it v-f.ilt. u. c
had
no title, aad fcf conlequence
he United States has acquired
XJ. a 9- a a ia i. i a w m -w a -mm
that
t-tle frm Fraace.' If this be
corrcft, the conieqjece will be
tbtt w have a quiicd no new teTr
ntorv or new fttbjeas,- and that iTis
jcrfaiy idle to fpend time in paf,
n;T Uws for uofrafiin the terr torv
1nd Rverning the peopfe. In the'
treaty lately concluded with France,
ths treaty bet wee Fiance and Spun
rcterrca to ; only a part of it u
-'P"a. i he treaty referred to rati (I
tCa nitkl- t ".
A 1
- r--v uW)r, in ioB nature ov
the
province of Looifian . The o-
nr
'natnt mult .have s r
A-s there 'lis 'but a part reciedit is
evidemtly irnprfecK; -It b-comes,
therefore, Weceffy to bc furni(hed
with the whole, in order to afcer
tain the conditions "relative to the
Dukf Parma; it alfo feecome re
esffsVy to get the deed of ceffion ;
f-r the oromife to cede is no crfliop.
This deed of cfffion. Mr. G. alfol
prefumed was in the pfl"effibn of
government, It Was alfo important
toknow under vnaV.ircumftanccs t';
i to be taken pofiTe ffi on of,J aad wit
ther with the ccnfsnt of Spain,. as
fhsisftilh'n pofiXfioriof it. If it is to
be taken ofTefrion of with her coo
fent, the pofTefiion will be peacea
ble,and one kind of proviflon w;ll
be ncrflTy; but if it is to be taken
ofTffion of, la oppofition to Spain,
a different provinoriTnaybeaectfTry
From thcie confiderations bethought
it proper in the Houfe to ;a'l upon
th Executive far imforrnation on
th'S point. Oth'r important docu
mcWs miv, nerhapc, like wife he in
the hands cf the Prefident. . Hence
he considered it his dutyVbefore the
Houfe vent intr a confidaration of
the resolution laid on the table, to
fuh-r-t the following refolytion :
fHere fallows the refuluticn
wi:rh has already been given, j
Mr. Randolph hoped the ref.du.
tion would not be agreed to. H'
was well , apprized of the afteft
which it was m the power of ine..
1
I
1 nuity to ; giv to a ralulal, on th
part of that Houfe, to recpj're env
inforrpitton which gentlemen mfgh
think fit to demand of theExecutiv,
howevr reoriotely conr8ri wnh
ruhjetlsbeforc them. But thedreacj
of impa'ations vrhich he knew t
be groundless fhould navermduc;
him to fwerve from that lint of eon-
jduft'Whicb his raoft fober judce
went approved. Iiid he indee-;
conceive that the nation or tht
Houfe, entertained a doubt of our
having acquired new territoiy ' ant!
people to govern; could he for a mo
ment believe that even a minority,
refpeftable as to nvambers required
any other evidence of :his fact than
the extrac! from the titJtv which
h.KVjull been read, he would readily
ctuicUr with the eentlernan frorri
v,rnmcnta nd fom gentlem-1
i m,nfe&ed . fo'f ib,s fort Mr. R,i
j known under thi appellation of
L'u iian3. The fir fl article efflrmfi
lihe right of France to the Tnve-
rilignty of this territory to b d-.
rived under the treaty of St. tlde
fo'nfo,: which it quotes. The. th rd
arnclei makes provi(isn for the fu
tiiro igbvernmsnt, by th United
St?tes f its inhabitants. Ahd thi
1 ! f AitrtW a n O r 1 ur b:rk
this territory and thefe inhabitants
are to be traneferrad by France to
us. There has then been negociated
a convention between -us and the
French Republic; dating in the
French Republic,- Mating, in
mod Unequivocal terms, that there
does exifl: on her oart a riht to the
country in queftion, which ig (up
ported by the flrongeft pt7imevu
deoflej and pledging herfelf to pur
us' in poflefSon of that righ, f
foon as we fhall have performed
thofe ftipulations, on our parts, n
ccnfideration.of which, France h?
conveyed to us herfovfeignty ove
this country and perfple. From th
n3tura of pur government, thfe. ft:
DulatTns caa only be fulfilled by
Uws' ifhe pa fling of which t?
legjflatuic alone is competent. Anr
when Hheie las are about to b
, endeavors are. made te im
pede,- or f rii ftrate, the mafure,' by
letting em foot' enquiries whic'
-nean not Kin g4 or are unconne&e:.
with the fubjea, and this' is done
y th.fe, who have always contend
td that there was no difcretio"
veftcd la this Houfe by the Con ft r
lotion, as to carrying treaties tt-
-irect. 11, sir, gentlemen believt
that we tauft eventually do that
which reus With us, towards rf- if
reamg tnis oojea, i wnat pu"poie
r - It- I n l. rll.
is this enquiry ? Mr. R. begged
tha Houfe Bt . to impute to him any
dil pofition to countenance this men
ftrous 4oSrine whfe adyocates nw
found it fo djfEuJt.to praftice. On
the contrary, he held i a the higheft
veneration the principle f flablifhfld
in theafe of th-3Titifti treaty, and:
the m&? byt wham it ,W4is eftabl ifhed
that, in all matters requiring legif
lativeaid, it was "the fight and duty
of this Houfe. to deliberate, and
upn fuch deliberation, to afford,
or rfufe, that aid, as in their judg
ments th public good rnight require.-
Arid he held it equally to be the
right of the Hou to demand fuch
infrmztion frm the Executive, as
to thm appeared neeeffary to er?t
ble the'fji o fotm a found conclufi; n
orifubjei fubmitted by that d
pe rt (t:n , to, - t bet r chn fi der a lip n .
But thufeWo then e'en tended that
t bit Ho ufe . Y oT fT; t no djferetion
on he fubjeft, tnat'thf.v were, bound
iftipUcitly to conform o the fljpu.
Istians, rc'now in.ituting enq ii.
ries to ferve ?.s 'he bins of delibera-1
'ion,
(for f -ve are not 'to deliberate
up"n. the refuh, why iftitute anv
enquiry at ali ?) eivquines, wh-rh
are in their very nature deljberat ion
itfelf. Informti6 on fuhjefts of
the nature of th- t which thevnvcrf:
then d-JcufTir., might be req nrrH
for two'obj ds, to enable the H-nV
to de'ermme whether it wre ex-
.icdent to approve a meafuret which
n the face of it carrier! proof of it
impolicy : nr to purufh minifters
who may have departed from th't
inftrnftions : who may hive betray
ed the inter-fts confided, by the ni.
tion to her care.
To illuflra'e th s4 remark, let us
ad ert to the c .fe of th Treaty of
,o.uljn, genet ally 4W,-wn t-" Mr.
Jay's treaty. T&r inflrument had
excited the public ab'ionenre. The
objcions to carrying it into rfTift
wire behaved inluperable. This
fratimen pervaded the Toufe of
Re.ptelentati ves, and w-ien thev
demanded information from the ex
ecutive, they viitusly held th;s
language. u Sir, we deteft you;
treaty w- fr"l n alsnoft invinc b!e
repunanct givingitour fantin
but if, by the exfT'bitien ofa;:y
formation in pofTffiori of,th Exe
cutive, we can be convinced iha'
the.inicrefts of the United States
Have been ftypported to th utmofl
--xtcnt : t't wretched as th s m
i.rumat is. the terms are gd
,iS were attainable, and that
bad. s hof terms are it is politic
under exifting c iraum fiances to ac
cept them, we will reluctantly oafs
fhe hws frtr carrying it into effect..
The prefent.bafr, if he tmdHloi
?riv thin.w of th g-neal fentimfewt,
was haopdv, of a Jitfrcht nature.
Ffeis treaty wh'ch they wete. then
malted upon ?n ianftv30, had been
Hailed bv he icclmatjoits of the
naticin. I' w-aoL dirRcult to rore
fee, from the nion mariifefted in
ivery quarter, tt tt would rece've
the cordial approbation of a trium
phant majority of that houfe.: If
fuch be the general ouinion if ve
ire not barely fesfud with the
terms' of this tra'.y, bu loft in af
;nifhmsnt. et the all important be.
nefits which we have lo cheaply ac-
quired' to what purpoie do we alk.
a formation relpect.ng tneaetan or
the negociation ? Has any one
vent area to hint difapprobatien of
ha coftduti of the Mini fiefs wh
thTS nezociation ?
Mas any one infinuated that our m
lerefts hive been perrayed ? Itthen
are fafsfied as to the teirns of
'reaty, and wita th5 conduct" of
our miaifters abroad let us pafs the
aws neceffAt y for carrying it into
ffeft. To' re Cufe to delay, upn
ne plea now offered, is to jeopar
n(e the brft fnterefts of the union,
hall we taks'exceptioo to ourowi.
rillr ? Shall werefufe the offerer
j fL ftin ? ShHl this rrfuTal pro
reeu from thole who fo lately affit.
-ed that we oughf Jo uru tkis ve
. v obiecE at evcr national hazard ?
J I fh uld rather u"?pft he age rnei
r gentlemen wouiu ue rei-iy u
utftrip the rotm" of iw in making !
. acai fel ves ma iters or t n 1 s cou xt t ry
nan that, now wherr it is fferi'l
w ou r gra f phsJ y" fh? aid d it pf a y a 1
an Willing ueiV or at ieaft an imSii
fetcnccrtthstt' whca fo laiei
A .4
was all important to them.
A. Ft
fhe meffage yrhich the Prefident base
v
lent us, to demand if indeed w 4
have acquired anynew fubjeta, as;
the gentleman exprefle it, which
renders the exCercfe f our U.fli
tive functions necefTrv. wcn!d he
nothing lefs. than a mocker y of him,
of this foJemn bufttiefs and of cur
felves. Cautionary provifions may
be introduced into the laws, for f"
curing us- againft every hzard, al
tho fiom the nature of our ftipula
tions, we areexpofed to none. We
retain in our own hands the con '
fiderationmoney even after we have;
poffeffion. 7
Mr. R. exprefled himfelf averfe
to demnd the Spanifh eorrefpen
dence. The reafons mull be obvi
ous to $11 The poffcflion of Lui
fiana by us, wdl neceflarily give
rif?i to negociations between the Jj,
States and Spain? reUtive to its
boundaries. Theic have probably
rommenced and are now pending.
He hoped therefore the Houfe,
vmtld go into a comrruttee en the
refTage pf the Prefident, arid after
-elolvmgto pafs the req fite laws,
if further information fhall be wan;
!ng in relation to the mod of ta
king poiTeflioe, or any oherobj:cl
;f defflil, the Executive rmght.be
called upon to fumifhit.
Mr, Lyon, fpeke againft the re
f.Jur irn ,
'Mr. GoddaVd dfkd whether the
conclu'lcn followed ' that F'ante
had an iuc.onteff?be title to Loui-"
fiana. There was noluch evidence,
if in virtue f ,h;s treaty we pur-
. l . r .1 . r i
cn.iea prQnnir on me parr or n is
Catholic Majefty fo cede,and not TvH.1
nconteftible title,, he would afk . x
the promile Cnftiuted a, title.
rrance only iys, we ceae ail out
mle. This, and this on'y, s the
language of the inftrumn t. lf this
is the cafe, js it not proper to en
quire whether there are other aftk
.'V which Spain haaeeded Lou'fiana
'o F-anee ? Such acls may ex i ff .
Certain ftipulations were made by
France to Spain, oh wjhich ihe cef
fion depended. . Do we not , then
wifh to know whether thefe ftipu-
j larions have been fulfilled and whe
(ther they are binding, or whether
j Spa:n has waved them. Are there
! 'f. 'xileoce any dcurnenU te this
! eff.-itl ? It has been hinted that fuch
j documents exift in the newfpapers;
nutate we m an afiair of this migni
tudeo be referred to the difkum of
a newlpaper? He appiehended
thit this wis a novel mude of iegif
lation. The gentleman from Virginia favs
that the 41b article of the treary
ft:pulate for the delivery of the
country That article is to this f
fet . ' - .
" Thre Tnali be fent by he gl
yei .riici-t f France a coratnifil-ry to
Louifiana, to the end that he do r
very aft neceiTary, as well to receive
from - ths - ofRcern of hia Catholic
Majfly the laid country M? ts de
pendencies in thenaraeof the French
Pvp iblic, if. it has not already been'
done, as to trarfmt it in the name
"Ct he, French Republic totrje com
mifTary ?g!t of the UoitedS'trs."
Now yhat is the cemmiftary to
do ? Hf is, in the hrlt iy4ftance,
to 'Treive the province from Spam
i.2T tie tranitnit if to the U, Stares.
for he receives it from Spain ?
Vve, require to. know if Spam refu
fts. to dali vef Lotiifii'na td
jpramej
can France tranfmit it to us t
We
defire to know.whther there is any
j-.rofpeft of a refulal on the part of
Spain.
Suupofe we r.ccc:re the colony
from Franco under the dictation of
the F:rft conful to Spam, without
experiencing any pppofiUion from
h-- . Miy not th'e time arrive, on
a .'w lution iri the affairs ofEurope,
ocd fhe wui enquiie by what title
we bold it. Is it not proper then
fc r us to obtain papersj by which
jur title may He fully .under flood.
One Angular argument is ufed by
f'h'e geotteman from Virginia. This
Ka y he fays is hailed by the accla
fiti tior a f the country; But Mr.
G. would ask if the public had an
opportunity of examining it, 'and
S e 1 n g f u 1 1 y . q u a 1 n t ed w it h j ts
principles arnd. probable operation.
I hid been public only within e
"ew days cVaJhav evidence cf f bpu
u r sfTsjion rbr it c an t h ere . yet
vave &een manifefted ? Wiir the
people hail it wjth accUm&tieri'
t wnh aedtmatien;
when ther fhall learn thst it gl
fi fteea mdbons pf . dollars for a
promife? " vAt any Tate, a, alrr
agree in. iTi itnportanre of .theiru ,.-
jeft, md as we arecallfd up6atf
egifljts upon itTsritot proper If.
obtain all the necetHTy ?niornirvia..?
tbaV xtoubehad ?. Th "refelutiott f
gentlemen claim, our' confidence" ;
pugfitthVy not to farn-lh :s "with ,
information ? ;.n ' -
;'iv(Te"h.e t erti pH. T.-w'iex'r.) . v .
i-C-:Jim K It 1 " ' i. U
npHE Subfcriberinfoi mshisffnends
Z1- and the Public in generaU-TtVat hejaTi
general Affortrnentof DriGowlsBoek; vro '
cery,Salt, c. Likewifeen Comm"nit;StiSAy
'froos'3 to 130 Ca'lnV largeCih ao4 Mai
hogaoy Frame Looking. GlaiTef. ' I'roeuctiBf
C1H1 takeu in Payment. ; :, -l
.I..- :'..t Pttewfirry
Fayetteviller Sept. ifr 1SC3. .f. , ,'-
. y xrunni. rooks.
To bihsdt Qaxss's Store, ,
An.rAirnee ef the ,left, A uthrs in the
GeV latin,- FrencfcUBd'Ctatrili'Xabgtta.
es ochidrag Afithmttical aad Mathtma
tieel Treatifei, Uictiooaries, Sec.
WrfM aps t3 pRrms.i '
.' 3e feurlfteet Maps of Ae four Quarter
oTlneiote,'aBa n ine vioc iuh,
pleteiy fitted up en Canvas aad Rellert. ,
" f Alf twd &tet Maps of th farrfe kini, and
tif'fevef&tfinzle Countries. '
I , And eit at .aVie-y. , of Priets ; feme .9
tbemJarticularly SeriptHre, Pieces, finely
; sPVj i ;. STOLEN, 4:. "0. :
(fi&tir'Xtgto the 'i'Jtk k nil mi t rent th r
A'.f ,aiiAl Iach highixirijhjr,lUckv about -ten
Year iddjff t i.hoile baike ii: eCfcaad
iiiVne r.v&w&r the Sa4
weg1juedvinrcarrd a (U:tfwa$T.U
t Ad?aitaj,vTb :;;aVtt;.o( Harn?i ae
v .fi bie orKb si Rreafl wh taken away, Ch cty
teVatda lbeiff 5hoa?d?r, wa alio a L mp
or SaidjejCalioatht Mid'dte biJSajtk. ,
Reard of ! t e n Dei fart a t fo able
ExtAceiite'-:offered-"feir tine Horfe V Knd' Fiftv
Boliars'ilor tha HoiTe, i:?d fucK Difcovery ef
the Thief as thai! be cfl ftuil to oovift him
ElixaBilbtn, S C, Ob. so; rv- ,
n Efpecifully:mf'6rm8;tKe
that he Hag refamed the abeVe Bufioeffes
in Raieigbi ahi trill frf J tkem en here
tofore, in the Shop teenier It occupied by bie
Father and himfelf near the MTk -ft-Houfe
aod will be glad jto receive Orders iri elthef
of the faid Branches, which he pledget hi m-
lelf (hall be carefully and eapeditiouily exe
cu ted,'-and on reasonable Terma.
r A Lift of Letters
Inthe Poft-Oilice at Mount Tirfth, Oel-
t.f;. ;4er f iSej. 1 .(
yfSAorameiCbchran, John Cat
V :)eyi'f hiemat Heggie, Charles Si
Hurfti jai. Mercer t , Buckrier Sim.
..r; TUO. MOORE. P. M.
f , WILL 32 Wi,0 - ;
ytfl y Curttiufc yn Gf'manttM, tn tbtlith
'pHMfoilowihg Ttatls of Land,
or fovmuch iheret as ' will latisfy the
ranes due thereoa for the .Years 1S91 aa& '
1802 with tb- contingent Charges :
ri 96 Acres, givn in by Wtlham Gordon
lying on the, NVaten.efuddy Creek.
10 Acres, gtvea in by Jacob Knees,' ed
the Waters of Muddy Creek. l. :;
as do eivent bv J oha Lineback, in Capt;
Woodfork's Diftrid. .v . ,
, M5"do. given ' in by Robert Bailey. ert ,
Blues Creeks . . i .-i' .
2I7 do. given in by Benjamin - FueU I ed
Hufhen's Creek. -'? I "t'Z-K
190 do. given in by Jphn Sap, en Blues.e ''.
Lick Creek. X ,:s . '
250 do. given in by William Stephens in
Captain Mager's Diltridfc. ' ' r-.i '- -
7e,dej..givcn in iy .Richard Pratt7Jl Mti.. "
fy crssk: : - -t :
ieo do. given in ey John YiHiili ' ' sjj
3zado. given in by Thon ja! '
Mager'e Dirtnft. . ry.
i5oee. given in bjf Chti'Jiopher Taylor :
in Markland's Diitria, . ; t V '
'led de. given in by i.hn Shottb,i Veft's V,'
loo'do. by Joh,n Murray, on Lch Creefe -v"-oqdo.
by ban.elKufarIn-MirJtland's -
- iSe-o. not given in, tf tfreWterr f tB -''
Little Yadkm, fa ti .to be the Property of -Ohriftlaa
Farrow. f (.0 , v. '
aoo Acrct not gUt h ffr, on t tit ' Wrert: of V
BaverrHand, faid' to be the Property cf
Thomaa Bryant. " ' J'-V;-68
Acres, belonging ta the Heirt f HWitif
DobfauY on th Waterot Catf RfverVl -.
aoorfo. givj;n in by fohn Bieatiiii lj-V
lard's Diftria. ' 1 -f-A ' -
' 300 Acrei.. eiven in bv ffhim Eaiti ton tK,
Litde Ydkin. r vt
10 Acres, given 'in by Henry Aaron, W
loo Atrw, given in' by Robert Ne.m.V t
on Flat Shoal. f - , , - ... j' y
kao;Acre?, "giv en ia' by Jeffe,M aekint, on
Little Tad km. - t.r cJ,'- . rrs --"-'
j OQ Acresglvea in by Geerge Buris, er
fPetera Creek. . ' . : .1
50 JAcres given fnvby Ifraef Crfi
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feter'a Creek. IbAAC'NAl
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