1 t iv4 4 a. 1 ' You vn. ' 'lihKoiiDAir May 26, 4806 v x i " i. u .-; ' ir . r ' in1" , ' i. " jar . u . au tit vii t. i - r -- . . Hci fcsJ -vr-i isrC-sj h'r R ? r- a a t t ' r a a . j . , aa m w - . r jpr.'.' r r . .t - i. tv- a a t a. t .a & .... -,.-.-."'. a Ti . t a ir. a t-.-. x - a . . ,.r 1 j - - a a. Tfl - . . r . ar x DISPUTE with G BRITAIN. ' Debate on Mel. Gkkog's Resolvtxov. r,v -Mkl MAOON'f SPEECH v 1 Concludedfrom our tut. ? k Taesday, March 11, ISOfly ' ; Permit mejMr. Chairman to re turn my thanks to the? committer for their indylgence yesterday ; I if as then too miich exhausted to Jiave concluded - tHe observations ' I wished ; to 'make I was then; shewing V- th fate of a few nations who had ; at tempted to protect the canrinj trade by war. ! ; It has,' I belieVe, been jbe fate ofiWho -thade the atiemptj Greatntain 'alone excepted, artd most tremendous war, atmost joTer- loaded with taxes, and tottering un der her public debt. Can any fact more clearly illustrate the advantage- ot the peace orer the war system, than a comparison -of the tomiage between the United States and Great B itain,in 1789 and now Ours has beeft the beace hers the war svs-1 tern, and we have probably increased j ten 'to her one' It.seems tome that it isamposslbl for any nation to car-1 ry oil the whole trade bfithe world ; j and every attempt to force trade, is acting under, the idea, that ft , can be done, ana every attempt made to engross th whole carrying traders acting under the simeimptv'?on. T h e I af g(tf;r'c pi t atist s in the U n fed Srates are concerned in this busi ness 'I vvbb not to meddle with-it, but leave it, iik evty other branch cf induury, tcr' find its own level. They may Otd read war, because they majr employ their stock in ano ther Vayf But what is to become of I those less rich, especially young be pinners ? They must be ruined. If the resolution produces any prejudi ciai;eflfccts, it rniist be on the carry ing trao. tt does no' appear to be intended for any thing else, and no one can believe that it will operate favorably to the seamen. The measure. yill not only affect the; revenue paid on - the tonnage of j vessels, and on the importation of; goods, but it will also., affect -the re yam? to be derived from Vheisle of the public lands ;Jt must ery consi derably lessen, the , number of pur chasers, and may ruin manyewho hn-e already purchased in vOhio. Many, no doubt, who h.iv removed to t h a t St ate ha ye ; sold thei r property- on a cwdit, to meet lhepay ments whish the'y wire to make fo the lands there purchased of the Statcs. Stop, by your measures, the sale of produce, or , reduce thepriee thereof .to al most nothing, an4tnwi i are these people to get paid for the property sold before they went to Ohio? Aisappojntmentq; -tnem may be ruinous y ifinay cause them to lose the lanjd and all .the improve ments made on it. They have not quite so quick a remedy against their unfortunatetlebtors, as the United States will have against them. You j may turn the people off the land, and nearly dipbulate the State, but you wiigetnp money. It Irett jjtndent, from an argu merit of tligentleman from New Yor;(MrrVimams) that the resoi 'luttiin isf'iid're'tpetl to bpirare Iri juriouslyn the exportation ofVuin frorji thev middletalea -H told us that Wemu&t protierct coinmsrce ; 'and thathe-;"a-- Ta?or of the resolu-. lin,mearljng I Suppose t tKere-; solution would protect it) or thepeo!-' pl in th backvct)untry wouidrtni too much wKiskey - If; therf tnere- solution Will protect commerce, and ? tnereby' insiire ' the exportation of grain,t1iere.will not be grain left in th country to make whiskyit This I country to maK:e wnisky. 1 his l n som d mea siir e ackno wi etf 0 ug ; tiat for whiehwe have been con-; vk-tiuiuc, 10 witv mat tne resolution dl operate- partially ; but I denrl ' . "T" mo people in mat part ot tne country are more in the habits of in toxication than.tbeir neighbours in ther bafts of the union Thiey are They s.raoral, 4s. industrious, and as ho nest;; as those living elsewhere:- I do not contend that they are superi p nly that ihev Safe eaua!. . , ; . Much has Jeenaid dbpuhpj vuc nation, ana mat we are tari tehind it ; 'meaning I suppose those j wh oppose the resolution; , As tol part. Z do not fcnoV how Uxe spi-i ntot the nation has been ascertain--) ed There is ho -manifestation of iti qw the table. It h howevertrue hat twe towns have sent rt solutions pledging their liyes and fortunes to support whatever measures Congress ma adopt There are also icyeral memorials from, the merchants and insurance companies ; but if gentle men take these for the manifesta tion of the national spirit, they are I think mistaken, t The national spirit is to be Found no w.here birt among those 'who are to fitrht your battles -These people may, for ought I know, be of that number. Thty may have baen before Tripoli, and they may be now ready to enter into the array pr iv Addresses, we well know, ;JIv$i6t fight bdttles nor fi J regi ments. VVe havef seen in former, days the Speaker's table loaded with addresses from almost every part oi the union, pledging also their lives and fortunes, to support anr mea sures that the then administration might adopt. What was done? A mong other acts, oqe was passed to raise tvelve regiments of infantry. There was no difficulty in getting of ficers, unless, intleed, it was to make the selection out of the great num ber that applied. Bui how was it a bout privates; instead of getting e nough for the twelve regiments, scarcely enough for. four could bt enlisted. At that time we heard a great deal loo about the spirit of the nation, and saw a something of the spirit then talked of in a. corps called - - Blues. Those who then spoke of the spirit of the nation, were de ceived ; they took the vapouring of the towris and the noise ot the ad dressers to be really the spirit of the nation. But, be assured, sir, that whenever the 'spirit of this nation m shall move, tht every individual in every department of the overnmcit will ' move too ! The ocean must be considered A common and (divided property, to which each nation has a right; hence the difficulty of affording the same security and protection there as on land, where each knows the spot where iris dominie ends, and ' his neighbours begins.' It is in vain, therefore, thel ptesent real sii.ua tion of the. United States being con sidertd, tQ.expect from her that per fect protection on the ocean, which she can afford within her territorial limits ; I believe this cannot be done even to that part of the ocean from whence we get a part of our ex ports ; other jialions' also frequent Ithe same place1, for the same pur- pose ; tnis nice tne rest is joint pro perty ; not so with our land, no na tion pretends to claim a right to cul tivate that." vV; Permit me here to remark, though, not directly connected with my last obser- at;on ; that I consider the re port of t''ie secretary of the treasury, to be as correct as any man living could make it iL And that from cus tom-house booki it is impossible to obtain that information, which could1 really shew the true balance of trade, -; ' -: . .' -A gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Findleyy nas 'gVaVely told us, that h would do more harm, since jHe v;resolution has . beeii taken into, consideration, t( reject it, than if it rhad " never been broucrhc. This is pfadn those ,wht)o not like it, or who prefer any of the other' resolu tioh, in a strange "dilemma. The friends pi it ought to have thought ofithis before they - went into- the (iiscussion; ' If any iniufy should be produced, cither by the 'rejection or me aaowipn, vncy are xo uiamc, anu ot those, who oppose it. It is their i measure,5 not, burs.' It is,: ih' fact endeavouring! to thfovr the:lblamewof n endeavouring thfo "th. etr conduct j on" i tleman hiade ' a us same gen- very unfephate wag- II. .1 . . . i v comparison, wnenne com gnusy, carrying out flour to .market; r to vessels engagca in me car?ynij5 tike. fcwaggon is only Jntehded to carrjf outiowj,po own ; jroeliiaildc; vessels .are engaged in carrying foreign prpiluce to j. " - J-i--it-:tei: u ' markets nation protecting duties, to encoi rage the1 owning; of vessels ; whi Lt to ehcou- the!wner of tthewaggon. is left to depend onlfci Industry 'todiUalU; And 4f.any man should ask the go- 1 1. veniBjent to give cucwujreiusy t. m !!-..? lv-'.. rt- ' . . the' employment of waggons, he would he laughed at ; yet waggonfe are certainly as necessary as vessel The one carries loads of our own productions, to our own markets:; while the, other, which is engagec in. the fair trade, for home, con sumption, carries cargoes of them, foreign markets. - C- c A gentleman from Maryland (Mr, M'C'reery) in Order .to induce us tr. adopt the resplution has informed us, that the towscJn proportion their, numbers, pay mare taxhan the country: He did not . prove the fact to be so;' hecannOf. XThe towns, I apprehend, pay little or no tax. Their merchants and mecha hies, who 1 act prudentlyalculater.: on, and generally get, a certain prH fit. You cannoi tax the capital of the merchant or trader. Impost whatever duty, you shall please oh goods ; he immediately considers ii like first cost, and charges the sarnt profit oa it. . The consumer not on v pays the tarvand charges on the merchandize, but he pays them with a profit to the merchant. Whenever a merchant live on his capital, we all know he will soon eat it out. To the naechanic the go vernment has giVen.prpJectingduties, which secures to him the sale of e very article he may make, at almost j any price. The eul ivator of tha soil depends on himself, and is often comptlled to sell the products of his land for any price he can get ; be- ' cause they will not keep in good condition all the year, like the goods of the merchant and mechanic. From these considerations, it seems to me, that it is at least probable, that the townsjdo not pay more than their proportion, nor even as much. The same gentleman told us that the nation sustained a considerable los by sending too much tobacco to England. This seems to me tobe u Uttie!ikc what we heard about tJhil balance of trade ; but it may be so. I will, howtver, state my sentiments on'the subject. If erroneous, I shall be glad to have them coriected. Merchants, like every body else, do business with a view to gain; and would they, vear after year, send to-' jacco to England, if they could do belter by sending;it to the, continent? I presume they would not. Thty understand their huwiness, , and ge nerally do thai which; is, lest calcu lated to promote, their, interest. In examining this subject, we ought to take into consideration the profit to be made on the whele voyage, not barely the priceof a single article t t a particular place The place where the, whole, exported cargo , can be sold dearest, and the imported oig bought cheapest, is the place which will always give , the midst profit. If a merchant'should send a cargo of tobacco JLO .England, and wished a few piece of Russia sheeting in re turn cargo, would it not be better to purchase them there, tfian send his vessel to Russia for hem, where they could be a little cheaper. He would,', I conceiv, actually $ave by doing. I vish the gentleman had tod us, thplaces where theobac COTrbight have been txorted to, so as to save ail that he now thinks we lose, by sending it to England. - I should have been glad to have been informed, whether the places were Lknbwn to ptisHss mercantile eapital, ana, wnciner mcrwiictni oi wuhji 4charactfer lived at them f thag cnp)f charactery to "which a prudeiff Jtnahhight wwith . safety; consign a valuable : cargbif He did not tell us that wi lost by sending ot,ton to G." prjtaint may, therefore, be pre sumed, that i could no sold any 9feielse atihis me, jftlmore ad yantlger Isth'ere.any other, . coun try in lEuropc, now prepared t'anja-nufacture- it ? Jrl believe hot hoi will it be purchased by any. to lay Up, until able to doit.. Before it Is pos- si Die to manuraciure, mecnamcs, who understand the business, must be obtained. -Neither cViL they,- nor necessary machinery be got in a cay. It is how well khownf 'that since the introduction of ' labour-saving ina cbinIiinfuinfabtures do not depend so much on the nuwber of people as formerly. v I as; whaVcbuntryton the i cbntiaent of Europe convulsed s'she is p'freeepri jcanffera rnarket' for this article', JWhatbun ivy is bow v tuuatioa W cominenc lirge; 'aud'eitenifve es tablishments, to manufactnrc" firx lortation? Tsh Germany--overrun ? 3r is it France, raisiiig:'e,very man he can to make neWionqiiests"? II hey have mechanics) merchants ioTh,is the skill of the? one or; the1 eputation of. the other 'know??, t fear not. Sir, I wtuld to God that ve had not sq much commercial in crest with Great-Brjtain, and 1 sm' rely wish our commerce wasmore qually, divided among tbtt nations f the eartK, than it is ilbut 1 Ifuow; lot now mis is to De done t rade hrives best when left to itself.- The merchant must be left to trade in the way he most approves ;' pvpvtd-, ed he shall not hazard the peace of the country thereby. . ' The; gentleman from Vermont (Mr. Elliot) has told us that 6y a lopting the resolution, we shall en courage other European nations to manufacture fbr us. It - is.TT con ceive, quite enough for the agricuU ural part of the community, to pay heir money to encourage themanu- uctures of tliis country . It is as nuch as I am willing to do. But i vjiat 'certainty huve we if we adopt ne resolution, ana give me propos- d encouragement, that any one of hem will leave their present occu pation, be that what it may, ."to take our advice. Each one ofthem -may think that their interest is as Well understood at home aswe'ean pos- ibly understand ii. The gentleman from Massachu setts (Mr. Bidwell) stated the case pi our prisoners at rnpoli, as a case ih point. He is I think a little mis. taken. We were at open war with that power, when the frigate Phila delphia unfortunately struck on the rocks in the harbour of Tripoli The result is knownthe enemy got pos session of the vessel, and the crew were made prisoners of war. There hen existed a state of actual war between the United States and ;(he PripoJiians. In the present Xase we have just cause of complaint a gainst Britain y and are en ieavour- ng to have them settled by negocia tion. 1 win state a case which seems to. me to compare belter with he situation of ur unfortunate. pouhtry.men who may how be im pressed cn board the British' shipV of war. It is the case of Captain O'Brian and his Crew, who were captured by the Algerines, and re m amed with them so lens, that I. lelieve the Captain in the latter part of tlie time, dated all his letters to4 his friend, by the year of his capti vity v, I have understood that they suffered as much as any people could bear... We. had then, I believe no addresses, no resolutions, hor mr- tnorials from merchants and insur- ance companies, out this case may. not be thought to apply to that pah of our complaints which-.relate to the capture of our vessels carrying coffee and sugar to France and Spain by the British armed ships. I will state one which r think has some; it is the case of Scott of South-Caro lina, Which has been decided in this house. He claimed pay for proper ty, taken bythe Indians at a time when no open and declared war, ex isted, le got nothing from t he na tional government.; The United States in a subsequent treaty . grave the propctty up to the Indians. ';f ofcf lieVe at the time it was,takehisome hostilities had been committed. Per? iit me hereto observe that no agent7 was appointed by thegb veniment to endeavor- to recover this property, and'Vhat I well recollect, when , the claim was under debate, that it -was stated by a memper ,of .the house that; one of the Indian agents had got tne treaty at ni oesir&vso. lornea, as 10 rennquisn a ciaim w mc pro perty. . 'w ! Si iiave endeavourctl to confine my observations, to the resolution how uuder consideration, and to n- tnat : wotie; ; examining uiis 1 nave also paid some Attention to thefotheirs 0n the- table i wish gentlemen before they vote, would seriously eonsl -er whether this is the Ue ? J tbinktt is jiot.. 3 WJien we reflect on the . happisvesss we enjpy, the pros perity rot: the nation, the growth 01 thev wllages,. towns and cities 'the improvio tu of 'frgicultur, the swer drie 'of 'the" arguments urged forispivihousfi! I confess, number of turnpike roads bridees. and canalsi 1 whic h are4ridertkn ii?: I many ( arts of (hej(fipi..and5 taljvJ one improper- act . ,vn t j 'alter ' for I ii nie.;imv;nappy Ktatew 7anci reiara riz :fy very im prove m ct&i . weought , to WT" cautious " before,, we chahfeithiv: ground on which we stand Cbin plaints have bptvt tn acr'ojT delay ;6nfv. ; Jhis irhportt. arejn " - my opiniohi.wiiho:it" fdWdilonr;? J "CT' ts i-A j . - i - Jt i euui red "st iii dehbe faiion"-; and no time hwsbeen li.sti ; It is 1-. .r .wajrs far .better to decide l ight ly thaifv-'i quickly fit is Jm material: tcfher" Batitins,.vhat esumate we &xmotC our own strength, thei e are two Tuh& by whhith will judge ; theniim--t .ber JfVhVva'))d.j$e state- of th ; ) ;treasurv'lhdiged; ;Uems of lat; to hve become mskim in .War, ? r' that the- longest 'ufsy-the longrist-r ? sworcU- It is' tide that we haveasirt-- gle million m the treasury Cdapare'f if is equally iftue- (hat resolutictn": .n are btfore usv'whichVif adopted,: will require at least mat sum to carry.' them into execution. In this sitiia-'. lion, xiught we to take meaiuics which may engager the;, revtnuet V WithouVprovidi noways iiifi' means " to mceV any deficieijiy Wetalk t war with an almost mpty trea, L sury ; no t w things can" be less coh K , . hecttd, except that they are both" bad. I have slated that, which l-. S. Reared to me, to be the best plan to"' i - secure bur amen from impress '1 me nt ; but the nuh who shall ac VV,. tu-tliy produce the plan, which. shall v -i? have that effect, w ill deserve the gray - j tittide of jthe nation. k . . ; J IfV this time of dilficutty we a?v . ; ! all embarked in the.. same ship mjr v ardent prayer is, that whatever shall ",2F be done, ma) promote the interest"' ' ' ; and happiness of all. -v m mm 0P Wk stern Lands. TTHE Subscribers residing in Mero Ditnc Sil ent, Tenessee, hare fatl, i n ttieir possession for some tiiTK.iaxonctXi. COpy of ail the warrants issued frofn the of i ate ot John Armsirong. -lat En try -taker '-f Western Lands, so far Is regards Middle District; as at of. all survey ' . v made and on. which grants bivc issued m,; he said district ; that from the possessfpii of those iWumerits, aarell as from ictuat surve s made on the Drtm.ses. thev hw nearly jmpkte4 t a , cy.iaecced la t of th : said Wye of the lands entered and not surveyed and of vtesVcaTt land on thtf a Duck aud ElKriyernd the creeks which. : make htiQ tM;sam. '. , : They are autn rsfd to infsrm those who ma be interes'ed:ii ands . lying in that ' ; part of the country, thahyxa shew the- ' umber 1?" eaci warrant.? to htm issued . 4 it" the landsaVe surveyed tij whom surveyed s J and when, the date ot the "grant,' where f j the lands Ue, their value, whcrajoJnUg invi?rference-fan),jind vdity of uije j A We.i-jt is' UfUerstoodtthat the Duck. f iMutikinrm, wnntneirtnbiufary streams,. -spread ttirough an, euer.ve . and thicklr c veried country of Carte, and that locator were m copstaut-aanger IfOm the Indians, ' it will natbe thpuht strange that lotatitXa.V- utwi iii4uc upun location n the same' . f -. crater course fienng only b the name. A ano iliatfrtn the same caase snrveyi have V wucHuwna periecied, the lines rtr -whereof, interfere iCpiajiy instauces j -tbatr ; nany of tn locajj6ns in, the .warrant -jet: ; o. be acted uppfare vague"and indefinite r r.i acscrmuon sftnce it ,hkk bfn Lfr..m.i 'Drivritv.ot fla.mti laborious undertaking titrate -the lines ToF 1 . surveys or to fix Hth;irtaiiy thep-'.. , i aity ow location or ith$prjvrhjr" of ciaima f ,t nis nowevet mey reel conndent t asgun 7- the.fub!ic they are .enabied to do,. as WellT " - fc 1 as to g vein formation in regard to the sitna-;;; ,1 on, quihtyaiid strength of claim r Wz'-J:'-' ! ' Gentlemen resid 1 n g 1 n Norih-CarbUaac ts e4sw iiere claiming lands by virtue of grant j, V, ; ar warransKuacea oil tat above describe j V iwaters, or hbklin;warfaftls capable of be L mg removed, aad$ whtfMay wistheir" inte xrrA V Jtamty, or warrant removed,' may berae- - " eomraodated W appliation to the wbscrU oers,-iuth chkraoer f igents,ojr byintea; r resting them in thelaads s v ViU" W ILL! AM P A NnRH!5nw -T."'- wfniii. to r. 5. Communications mairh S--- Kashvilie, postage paid.. ' . T;:t- f. tic Qantit cfjn " r In'AugUst riei.t. it Willie toelect one pi your feUowiCitizeitf toteprew sent you in the Coogressof the Cfnited-; 1 are hereby mfooned, tlia -V.v I oner as a Candidate for that honourable' v'r I Uppo&itraent. 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