r -OJ - . 4 Ouri are the plaits of fair deliijhtfol pere, t Unwtrp'iJ by prty rage, to livelikc Brother!. - i TiitTRSDAT. Apri 23, 1807, K6. 39i . ..... ' ' ' : I 1 . EXTRACT from ; . Cobbttfs Political Register, For January, 18Q7. The Uti Possidetis. These are two words,, vbich have been re peated upwards of three hundred and eightv times in the debates in Parliament, upon the papers rela tive to the late negociation. In America, where they pay their i ..v. n lav when nre- memDers su mm. m , 1 sent and upon their duty, .they would have most bitterly complain ed of the expense of such debates; but we, happy, thrice happy we ! have no ground for any such com plaint : for, except in the mere tri fling article of candles, perhaps our members cost us just as much at one time as anothtr. The u Uti Possidetis," mean, the learned tell us, actual possession ; or the state of actual possession ; and when they talk about treating upon the basis of the "Uti Possidetis," they mean that the parties agree, by way of preliminary, or first bargain, that each shall retain all that he pos sesses at the time the, negotiators meet. But, if this be the meaning cf the " Uti Possidetis," why not give us that meaning in our own language at once ? , Do those who make use of such phrases, which the stupidest wretch upon earth might learn to use as well as they, in a few houis ; nay, which a par rot would learn, or which a high dutch bird-catcher could teach to a buU-finch or a torn tit, in the space of a month ; and do tht.-y think, in good earnest, tnat tnis last relic of the mummery of mon kery, this playing off upon us of a few gallipot words, will make us believe that they are learned ? Learning, truly so called, consists in the possession of knowledge aud in the capacity of communicating fthat knowledge to others ; and as far as my observation will enable me to speak, what are called tht learned languages, operate as a bar to the acquirement of real leming. I a ready hear some pedagogue, or pedant, exclaim, kk 'I hjs isprecise ly the reasoning of the Fox with out a Tail." But, to bring this matter to the test, I hereby invite the learned mtxx cf the two Uni versities to a discussion upon the subject. assert that what they call the learn id languages ate improperly so galled ; and that, us a part of general education, they are "worse than useless. Two month will aiford time enough for any of the gentlemenjust epoken of to dis pi ove these positions, I will, there fore, give them until Lady Day next. I will publish their defence of their calling; and if I do not fairly beat them in the controversy, and that too in the space of 20 columns of my Register, I will then beg their pardon, ancl will allow, that to he able to speak or write in a lan ;guage which the people do not ud derstand, is a proof of learning. -cvt, until then! shall notdissi nt - from the opinion vthat none but clear streams are shallow, and that Xhe muddier the water the deeper - the welU - To return now to th po litical topic' before us : it, seems. from the; whole of the published ! aeoates upon it, that,:had there been no such pretty words to be brought into play th ere could have been nothing to talk about which the public would have been able to bestow one moment's attention upon ; for, of what importance was it, in such a negociation, whether such wa, the basis or not I Every one must know, that,; long before a treaty could have been "concluded, there must have been cessions or surrenders on our part, cr that we could have obtained nothing from France in behalf of any othtr tate ; and, if such was the case, of wh.it consequence was it, of what u was ito have settled this mere form of ft basis ? The Ministers, for what reason I know not, and I can? not imagine, insist that they did begin to negociate upon this basis; and their opponents contend, as a matter of course, that they did not. Very little interest has, however, been excited by the dispute,.every man of sense clearly perceiving that the point at issue was not of the smallest importance, aud, at the same time, reflecting with sorrow and with shame, thatgiilewe were spending our time irf such quib bles, like Milton's fallen angels, sit ting upon the burning marle,wrang lmg about predestination and free will, our enemy was .carrying his triumphant arms, over newly con quered states and kingdoms. The I " Uti Possidetis" could n:t charm down ; it was not a spell strong enough to stifle the reflection ; & on hearing the gallipot phrase echoed from side to side, it was impossi b!e that it should not occur to the mind of every man, that, between the two, we had been brought to cur present situation ; the only question with us being, not which had done us mo3t good, but which had done us the least ?njury ; which had.had the smallest share in pro ducingthe ruin and the disgrace of ourrchintry ; a question which most men will, I think, decide in favor of the present Ministers, who must work1, clay and night for years, be fore they will be able to accomplish a hundredth part of the mischiel accomplished by Pitt and his mi nions. In the debate attributed to the House of Commons, there wa cousiderab einterestexcitedbvMr. Whitbrt-ad's differing from Minis ters, and even projSbsingan amend ment to the address. " The Op position, as the Morning Lhroni- ne caMs them, deslt in more cavil ling ; bur, in the objection of Mr. Whitbread, there was something of reason and solidity. 44 The Op poitin" said the Ministers had been 4 duped one of them said, they had been "bamboozled ;" they all said, that no negociation shou d have been entered into ; that no bc--icf should haVc been given to such nun as Bonaparte and Talleyrand that it was fortunate the negocia tion had failed ; and that we ought to resolve o be exterminated .to the last man, rather than treat with Bonaparte until he relinquished his determination not to suffer us to have any connection with the conti nent. But. Mr. Whitbread was of opinion, that there was not suffi cient crotiods apparent for break ing off the negociation ; that from ths moment Mr. Fox became po litically dead, an anti-pacific spirit began to appear on our part ; and that, as matters now stood, the pos sibility of a peace with France ap peared to be cut off. He therefore proposed to insert wods to the fol lowing effect in the latter part of the ad dress to the Kinor: w io as- sure his Majesty of the firm deter mination of that house, to co-operate with his Majesty in calling forth the resources of the United Kingdom, for the vigorous prose cution of the war in which thiscoun try is unhappily still engaged ; and to express to hi3 Majesty an earnest request, that his Majesty 1 will, in his paternal solicitude for his people, as fur as may be con sisten.with the honor of his crown -md the interests of his kingdoms. afford every facility to the restora tion of the. blessings cf peace " This amendmcntoughtn my opi nion, to have been adopted ; and, my Lord Ho wick must excuse me. if I think his closing argument, to wit, that, one man's blaming minis ters for too "much readiness to make peace, antl ?other'3 blaming them for too much readiness to break off ;he negociation, "-as a proof that the ministers had acted wisely, had ho force at ail in it, & was nothing more than. one of those old Pitt- quirks, by which, with the aid of a p'ace and pension majority, his been so many times answered. What were the opinions of Mr. Percival to Mr. Whi thread ? Sup pose I knock my neghbour down without sufiicierit provocation, and a man still more violent than my self, blames me for not splitting his scull, while another man blames me. for having struck him at all, am I to plead the contradictory o pinions of these men as a proof that I have acted wisely and justly ? As to the matter itself,- -what, I should like to know, cah jpossihly be gained by reviving the big talk of Pitt ? He hectored about car rying on war for even rather than suffer Bonaparte to exclude us from a.l connection with the continent ; but, he could quietly slip out of place, under false pretences, while peace was made bv others, giving up all the objects for which he had pledgedjhimself to contend For my nart, I am thoroughU convin ced, that the Emperor will, as long as our system of taxing continues, agree to no terms of peace which shall not be, in his convictioT, cal culated to work for our destruction as rapidly, and even more rapidly than war. Never, in mv opinion. 4 ' as long as that system lasts, will England know an hour of real peace. But, of what use are high sounding words, without deeds therewith corresponding ? And, hs it may become advantageous to obtain even a short cessation ol arms, why should not the way to negociation be kept open Thet e is nothing, whether as to its effect it home or abroad, woise than be ing compelled to recede, either in one's conduct or one's Words, and, I anv:greatly deceived, if Lord Howick expects to beahL to keep the ground upon which he ao t.inds or affects to stand, with res pect to France. I am lbr .no dis graceful terms of peace ;but to talk of recovering the continent is now madness ; and I would be willing to make peace immediate iv, leav ing Napoleon to take what he can in Germany, in Poland, and in I taly, Sicily included. 1 know ol no treaty of alliance ihnt we have with Sicily. I knowof no reason whether of justice or of policv, for our carr) ing on war for a day for Sicily any more than for Hano- vcr. I would give-up nothing that should tend, in anywise, to weak en ourselves ; but I would make not the smallest sacrifice for Rus sia or any other connection. There was a state of things, in which such con "irctions were amongst our best means of defence, as well as of of fence gairistourformidab!eenemy; that state of things, thanks to the Phts, is completely overturned, There is no longer a trace of it re maining : and yet, these Pitts now call upon us to carry on war, until the last man in England shall be exterminated, rather than give up connections with the continent if we will give up bur maritime rights, or only a part of them, Na poleon will give us a coniection with the continent : he will give us Hanover even now, and suffer us to have ceruin other connections and, though this would be to sacri fice us to those connections, and to the private feelings and interests belonging to them, I suspect, that there are persons in this country who, upon such term?, would wil iingly see a peace concluded to morrow That is what, in our ne-) gPciauons(witn r ranee, .e have to guard against ; and, we may be as sured'that all the big talk about our honor has in.it, at bottom, no thing rSore than the wish, if hot the settled 'intention, of Sacrificing England to selfish connections '; & that, as to the honor of this coun try, it never enters into either the heads or the hearts of those (I mean thenews-wrtei,of course) whoart everlastingly repeating the Word It was said in oneof those speeches that the people are unanimous in be continued. Yes, for the defence and future safety of England, Ire land and Stotland ; but to tell jhem that we are at war for connections with the continent, is. not the way to make them approve of its conti nuance ;Tfor while they are perfect ly unabimous as to a war for the safety' and honor of their own country, they are not much less unanimous in scouting the idea of continuing the war for. the sake of the continent, every part of which they plainly see at the feet of the conqueror. There came out, however, in the course of the debates, some obser vations, which, as published in the news-papers, are well worthy our attention. The first that I shall notice, relates to Hanover, ancl I shall give them here, as I find them in the jspeech published under the aame of Lord Grenville, as fol lows : fc Now, as to Hanover, tVa was a nice and difficult point, and no misrepresentation should be al lowed to go abroad respecting it. Never was the issue of the nego ciation connected with its fate Never did any interested feeling a rise from it. But should it be 'alie nated for our sake ? What if he thought that we owed such al debt as that we acknowledge to Russia, to Sweden, to Naples, how much higher the debt we owe toourown So ereign I And surely we would avoid the disgrace of sUch a sacri fice, which would confound us with those who made such shameful sa crifices to their own fears, or their own interests. Hanover was at tacked, not as a German territory, not as connected with the Germa nic corps, but solely because France was at war with Englind; & while we were invulnerable nere, the en emy was determined to wound m through Hanover, But to adopt the saying and maxims of a great statesman, it seems to be, that, un der such circumstances. Hanover hould be as dear to us as Hamp shire; and whenever it was attack ed, for British interests, it should bedefendt dby British magnanimi t . tBut the same feelings respect ing Hanover s prevailed at Paris as. hre ; and from the first moment of the negotiation, it was resolvelr it should be restored to its lawful so vereign. Indeed it was needless to do otherwise ; for thev well knew that British honor would never have consented to surrender it." Now I do not say that Lord Grenville uttered these words : 1 com ment upon them because I fi.u! them published iife&aewspaper ; and because I am convinced thai they express doctrines which, if adhered to, must accompiisn thr extinushment of the remains of .'w-.wy. ' A.O statesman 7 alluded to is. Pknow , Hampshire will thmk itself as little not; but be he Who he m.gy, wide- tended by Lord Grehville and the ly do I djfTer from him in feeling j whole of the njinistry, that Hano and in opinion ; ated; whatever m: y j ver, though his Majesty, bur gra be the feeiings of the adihof of this 1 ciou King, was the Sovereign of it, publication, I can assure him, that I was, and ought to be, reffarded aa indebted to him as to Lord l ra- havif:gno . dnnection whatever with pie. Hanover as dear to Us as Uh king !om of Great- Britain; and Hampshire 1 Tow, to this;acU 1 1 remember well, that when soma thor it may be,but; for my part, 1 persons, amongst whom was Mr trust I should be ready to shed my Sheridan, regretted that the paci. blood to the last drop rather thn '( fic example of the Elector of Hano see the latter a department of a vas- i ver was not followed! bv the Kihtf sal kingdom of, France, while of Great-Britain, they were calfed have no scruple to say, I care just Jacobins and Levellers 1 Butnow as much about the former as I do j .j behold, When Hanover is conquer about the Dutehy of Brunswick or i1 ed ; when France has gotten com the Principality of Hesse. Hano-!' phte possession of it; or when she ver a dear to us asHarripshire 5 Tj has given it to another power ; now know not what the people in the : We are to fight apd pay for it noMf North rnav think rf tVtts . s ' ra u nA , really and lijerally cdmes home to my fire-side ; arid a great conso-a- .,. ....... , uut it Upn it must be to one to hear, that ' one is considered, by this author. U..4.t . . M .-j -r - - 7 -"v. H (j.vvuujuia" wears it, they made the provision recited in our rna. kers of this taw foresaw the conse quences that would unavoidably result from leaving it in the power of the crown to make War for; fo reign possessions, belonging solely to the King ; and the Jair construc tion of the law is, that war should not be waged b this Country, with out previous co nsentof Parliament, for the sake of any foreign posses sion, oihe private property of any prince sittting. upon, this tnrone whether he were then born abroad or whether he should thereaffet be . born in EnglandV" The words "not being a native of thU kingdom, applied immediately to the success sor of Queen Anne ; but they also applied to hisdesceUdants. They applied to him as the head of the house ; for the provision made part of the compact with His successors as e.ljas with himself. The d ubt fui exprc &ion of i n the crowh should hereafter come, he. &c.' was used because it was not, when the act was passed, certain that Queen Anne would die without children ; and the whole terror bt the act clearly shows, that the obi ject of the provision was, to pre vent this nation from being involv ed in wars for , the., sake of tlomi-nions- the V&$$ of the prince, and totally separate in interest front the kingdom of England. Yet we have been at war for Hanover, and that the previous consent of Parlia ment was not obtained we all well know. Nay, if the French had stood out, we are plainly told by this author, that we should have been at war for, Hanover now. and ! solely for Hanoycr ; for, that, under? sucn circumstances, Hanover it as dear to us as Hampshire And what are these circumstances? Is there any thing peculiar in them ? Were we in aliiahce with Hano ver Had that gallant and gene rous nation lent us any aid, either in men or in money, pre vious tons being conquered ? No s this is not pretendjL The rc is nd pretext of obligation, either ex press or tacit, set up. The cin urn stance (for there is but one) ls, nanover was conauered 'hrcaux fsr i - . . . Wance was at ar xiitih England." Weil, and will not Hanover always be conquered under similar "cir cumstances ? And must we make war (or continue war which in ef fect is the same thing): against her every time she conquers Hanover ? And, must we never nike peace without oltaining the restitution o Hxnovcr, cost wnat it mav ? Du ring ihe List war Jlanover as well as England ' was encaeed apaimfi . France ; but Hano veff bought pro- i'u m,KCjcace wituout consuit- It o ur uur interests. Ihen it Uwas loud v and vk ii j - iiviii.uLir j 1 1 refrhrrlirl o I: a stat totally separate from onrl t. uui w uive it UD : nnttf We are tO look UDOn it. itl ehnrf of the counties-of England ! "Vfe i V " . K That ii. u .. . j utoi ami aear to us as one J Lordship's olid arguments had J ' i ..i :.',f - J.'5"..-..-

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