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i -J, - -. ... r ' . f if c : ' c . Proa the Xnionil Intelligencer, OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS. The Document acconepanying the "Mes sage cfil PiesitU&t, bemg 100 exten ivt tor Insert on'ib one pautrr, wc have conulrmljt mosi tatitlactory, in the frst instance, to publish ihe follovrin;, wluch nU furnish a rokrable correct idem of the SKuitnin of our fcreign reU Ikwi, with, tbe ground ixken by oor go vernment. ,1a sutjrfuent papers tbe fthdc of the Dcuweni shall be giveu. Zxxrttctifa UtTr ram Cen, Jmutrcjio tr Secretary tf State, c td Bout ban l'Arm Since my arrival at this place, 1 have been honored by the receipt of your dispatch, of the 2 1 st ult. and Mould im medially return to Paris to renew my discussions with M tie Champaguy either personally, 'as f6u suggest, or. by writing, had I not the rnot solemn conviction that anjr new experiment made at the present mo mcia in either form, and of official cha actcr, would certainly be useless and piobubly injurious." FrenMr. Pinckney to Mr. Canning- Cieit Cumberland Place, Augost lSwtf. 3 Sia, I have the honor in conse quence of the orders of ihe Presi dent, to recal your attention, in the course of scleral recent irffemcs, to the British orders of councit of the t the uxr, ! 7th cf January 2c,l lib ofNovcrii ISC 7, and to the Various orders found ed upon or in execution oflhcm ; and 1 now take the liberty to renew, in the mode which I harve understood to ic indispensable, niy instances on Uut suoject. 1 ntcJ scarcely remind you, sir, that taw government f the United bu.ck hu never ceased to consider these orders as violating its tights, ar.d affecting most destructively its inicrcMS, upon grounds wholly inad missible both in principle and fact. The Utters of Mr. Madison to Mr. Er'atine of the 20. and 23th of March, 1 07, pioduecd by the cOiiaal ; caoiiiiunicutioii of that Minister of; the ord.-rot the 7iU ot Jan. and the! answer of Mr. Mad;s5n of the 25,-h ! i March, IBOSf to a like cumtnqui-! c-tw.i ut tncoidcrsof the ILh Nov. I cu..uucj inc iuot direct rcmuu-' sii.ct.c agains the system which ! tu:c ord rs mi oducc and execute, : aut. cxpiesu the confident expecta-j tun of the President mat it would, Q. be persisted in. j That expectation has not yet been J fulridtd, but it has, notwithstanding, j not btcn i-f linrittilieL lh- Pimi. dent i .till npr.ii .rte.fi iht ii arrom- phsliment will result from a careful .... u:. i :..., . ikIUH UJ 111! 1.JV.VJ a V.1 II IIJV.II, midc in the snint of moderation and ? equity, of the facts and considers 1 lions which belong to the occasion, j in thu note, the statements zuA rca-, tDuin contained itvthe above tbnd letter of Mr. Madison in s,m- pj.t of the claim.of the government of the United States, that the British j i ordcra be resoked. I content myself,' with referring to those letters for: proofs which it is not necebsary to j repeat, and for arguments which 1 could not hope to improve. But there are explanations which those letters do no: contain, k w Inch :. r . i rettrn atuirs nau tne nonor to re- u is proper for ine now tojnake. ,i ' V. l t . . j. ' ceive the ofliclal letter addressed to x.vcn these, hoover, may be very,,. f ... . britUr civcn, since you hac already oeen made actnuuutea in ou uri'vc conversations with all their bearings and details. These explanations go to shew, that, while evtry .ro otie fvjustir' conspires to pruldte a'disposition to recal the orders of which iny govern ment compfains it'is become appa rent lint even thetr ptpftsed object will be best obtained by tneir rtvo t cation. I had the honor to state to yourwr, that it was the intention of" the PresI dcMt, in case'Grcat-iBritain repealed her orders, hii rei;arcled the Uitited in him by the act of the laM session of Congress, entitled An act to an- thorite the President of Ihe United butes. under certain conditions, to- ' - " Ui.td f- nnrl iJ.r Pasnury iz 'Uicreto,'-' br'- sus- 1 vjspcpd theoperatidnof an act lay- ' V 11 in . ... -ij!:,: people, as it wot itls in t i- ..nrti in1 harrVVr nf lh fM Wjety S dli pendingthe embargo law and its sup plements, as regards Great-Britain. . I am authorised to give you this as surance in the most formal manner ; and I trust that upon impartial enqui ry it will be found to leave no induce ment to perseverance in the British orders, . while it creates the most powerful inducement of equity and policy to abandon them, On the score of justice it does not seem possible to mistake the footing upon which this.overture places the subject ; and I venture to believe, that in any other vie vrs there is as little room for doubt If, as I propose your orders should be rescinded as to the United States, at.d our embargo rescinded as to G. Britain, the effect of these concur rent acts will be that the comimicial intercourse of the two countries will be immedia'ely resumed ; while, if France should adhere to maxims and conduct derogatory to the neutral rights of the United States, the em bargo, continuing as to her, will uko the n!at tr of vonp orders, and lt-at' - j with an efficacv not merelv eoxal to I . , - rf M theirs, but probably much greater, to all the consequences that ought to result from them. On thcother han I,if France should concur in respecting thoe rights, Sc commerce hollld hus regain its fail immunities, and the law of nations its just dominion, all the alleged pur poses of the British orders will have been at once fulfilled. If I foibear to pursue these ideas through all the ilius'ralions of which they are susceptible, it is because the personal conferences to which J have, before aliuded, as well as the obvious nature of the ideas them selves, render it unnecessary, I cannot one I ude this note without expressing in y Sincere u isli, that u hat I hare now suggested, in conformity with the liberal senlimtnts and en lightened vuwsof thePreside it, may contribute not only to remove the more immediate obstacles to the or denary intercourse of trade between your cour.tr)' and mine, in a manner consistent with the hon.;r of both, ; but to prepare trie w .y tor a sa tisfactory adjust mrn of t very ques tion important to their future friend ship 1 hac the lui;o; to be, Vih the highcNtconside ration sir, Your obed't hunihle scrv't, Wm P1NCKNEY. Extract rf a 'cue' Jrem Jfr. Pir.thr.ey to tie Secretary btaic . dated 2-i.o .J Stj.;e in ter, lBOd, J-W-uuri. I am now t nahled to transmit lo you 4 copy of Mr. Canning's an SWc received oa.y iast night to my note of the Cd of August. UgU 1 regret extremely lhatthe views which 1 have been instructed to lay before this government, have not been met by it ax I had at first been led ; i cxi,cCt 1 cvture cannot far, men-l!hovvcr lol,,a,e'" a ong hgh. .lhc J,,st aml l,'Jcral Stntiments by v.h.ch our eovcrnmcnt is animated. .i I : .1 . l ri o. f uu " "cr rc5Wc5 llJ usciui to h .try. I1UUUIUUIC IU UUI C'JU From Mr, C&nning to Mr, Pinckney FortMgn Olnc, ") September 23d. ISOaj The Undersigned his Alaj'My's principal Secretary of State foi fo- r riJ; . . ... , peciintr me orders m council issued by his Majesty on the 7th of Janua ry :md llth of November, 1807. ii.. i i..t. i . - - i . e lie ii a iaiu inai iciier ueiore ne King, and he Is commanded to as sure Mr. Finckney, that ihe answer to'he proposal which Mr Pinckney was instructed to bring iT.rward, has been deferred only in the hope thu: fhe renewed. application which was understood" to' bar been recently made by he gycitimelitof the Uni ted S'atcs to thlt oi France, micht. in tnew tatc, vit tiS Avhtch has ariserr in Earopr have met with such a "f'W ? ."nce.as cuderconhe compliance of his Ma- lrsT wlh . proposal cons.stei. mucn w,tn ris .v.aje.Ty sown nig- .M . T " ic in'crcsts ox nis ild have been with ipositioi towards Uted States. Uohanily there 15 now no longer anj reason to be believe that sucbaliope I is likely to be. realized ; and the undersigned is therefore commanded to communi cate to Mr. Piuckney tbe decision which, under the?' circumstances as they stand, his Majesty feels himsejl compelled,- however unwillingly, to' aoopu " . t ' The mitif'ateimcasure of retalia tion announced by his Majesty Jihe- orders in council of the 7r JanftU and the iurther extension pliT measure (an extension in operation but not in principle) by :he? oideVs in council of November, were found ed (as has been already repeatedly avowed by his Majesty) on the ' un questionable right of his Majesty to retort upon the enemy the evils of hts own injustice, and. upon the consideration that " if third parties incidentally suffered by ih' se reta liaory measures, they were to seek their redress' from the power hy whose oi igi.-ittl aggression that reta liation wjs occasioned." His Majesty sees nothing in the embargo laid cn by the President of the United S'ates of America, which i varies this original and simple state of the question. If considered as a measure of im partial hostility against both bellige rents, the embargo appears :o his Majesty to have been manifestly un just, as, accordingto every principle of justice, that rtdres oughuo have been first sought from the prty ori ginating ihe wrong. And, his Ma jesty cannot consent to buy off that hostility' which America ought noi to have extended to him, at the ex pense of a concession, made not t America, but to France. If, as it has more generally been represented by the government of the United States, the embargo is onl) to be considered as an innocent mu nicipal regulation, which affects none hit the U.State themselves, and with which no foreign state has any con cern ; viewed in this light, his Ma jesty does not conceive that he has the right or the pretension to make any om plaint, of it, and he has made none. But in this Tight there apr pars not only no reciprocity, but :io assignable relation, between the u-ptai by the U. States of a measure of v .iuniary self restriction, and th? :;..iT-.nderby his Majesty of his right f retaliation against his en . mics. The government of the U. States i riwt now to be informed that the Berlin decree of Nov. 21, 1806, was the practical commencement of an attempt not merely to impair or check the prosperity of G. Britain, but utttrly to annihilate. her political existence, thro' the ruin of her com mercial prosperity ; thit in this at tempt almost all the powers of the European continent have been com pelled more or lesft to co-operate ; and that the American Embargo, though most assutedly not intended to that end (for America can have no real interest in the subversion of the British power and her rulers are too enlightened to act from any im pulse against the real interests of heir country) but by some unfortu nate concurrence of circumstances without any hostile 'intention, the American embargo did come in aid of l the blockade of the European continent," precisely at the very mo ment when, if that blockade could have succeeded at all, this interposi tion of the American government would most effectually have contri buted to its success. To this universal combination, his Majesty has opposed a temperate but a determined .retaliation upon the enemy ; trusting that a firm resis tance would defeat this project, but knowing that the smallest conces sion would infallibly encourage a perseverance iirit. ""f he struggle has been viewed by other powers not without an appre hension, that it might be fatal to this country. The British .government hds not disguised from itself, that the trial of such an experiment might oe arduous and lon ; though it ha never doubted of the. final issue. But if that issue, such as the British government, confidently anticipated, !has providentially arrived much ear lier than .could have been tropedjf the blockade of the continent as it has bven triumphantly stued by the iiicrnr, braised tten b'efen: it had established : and if that system, of which extent and .conti huity were the Vital i principles, is broken . iip into fragments, utterly harmless and contemptible ; it is nevertheless Important in the high- lest;degree to the reputation of thisi country ra reputauon wnicn consu tutes great part of her power) that this disappointment of the hopes of her. enemies should- not-have been purchased by any concession ; that not a doubt should remain to -distant times of her determma. ion and of her ability to have continued her resis tance ; and that no step which could even erroneously he construed; into J concession should be taken on her j part, while the smallest link of the confederacy remains undissolved ; or while it can be a question whe ther the plan devised for bet des truction has, or has not either com plerely tailed or been unequivocally abandoned. J . , . Tbese considerations compel his Majesty toj adhere to the principles on which the orders in council of the 7th January and the 1 Uh November are founded, so long as France ad heres to that system by which his Majesty's retaliatory measures were occasioned and justified . s It is not improbable, indeed, that some alterations may be rnade in the orders in council, as they are at pre sent framed ; alterations calculated not to abate their spirit or impair their principle, but to adapt them moie exactly to the - different state of things which has fortunately ari sen in Europe, and to combine all practicable relief to neutrals, with a more severe pressure upon the ene my, j . .,;;. But of alterations to be made with this view only, it would be uncandid to take any advantage in the present (licus5ton ; however, it might be hoped, that in their practical effects they might prove beneficial to Ame rica, provided the operation of the embargo were not to prevent her from reaping that benefit. It remains for the undersigned to take notice of the last paragraph ol Mr. Pinckney 's letter. There can not exist on the part of Mr. : Pinckney a stionger wish than there does on the part of the undersigned, and of the British government, for the ad justment of all the diflerences sub sisting between the two countries. . His. Majesty has no other disposi tion than to cultivate the most friend ly intercourse with the U. States, : ' The undersigned is persuaded, that Air. Pinckney would be one of the last to imagine, what is . often idly asserted, that the. depression of any other country is necessary, or serviceable to the prosperity of this. The prosperity of America is essen tially the prosperity of Great-Britain and the strength and power of Great Britain arenot for herself only, but' for the world., When those adjust ments shill take place, to which, thb' unfortunately- n ?t practicable at.this moment, nor under the conditions prescribed by .Mr. Pinckney, the un dersigned peverlheless confidently looks Forward ; it-will perhaps be no insecure pledge, for the continuance of the good understanding between the two countries that they will have learnt duly to appreciate each others friendship; and that-it will hot here after be imputed to Great-Britain, either on the'one hand that slie en. vies American industry as prejudii. rial to British commerce, or, on the other hand, that 'he is compelled to court an interccurse with America, absolutely necessary la her own ex istence, ' ' Hist Majesty would not hesitate to contribute, in any, manner in his pp we r, to restore to the cotnm erce. of the United States its wontedcti vity ; and if it were possible to make any sacrifices for the repeal, of the; embargo, vithont appear7h to, de precate, it s a measure oJtostility, he would gladly have facilitated its removal as a maasiire of incon.venienV restriction uponj the Ariferican peb pie; ; The ..undersigned:, is commancied, in conclukibn,- to' observe, that no thing' is said in MrV PlifcknjV it tcry.of. arijntention tgjjeat' proclanaatioft bywbich 'th ej shipsW war of Ureat-Britain are imerdictedi from all those rights 16f ; hospitafu been well J.fa the borfe oi Jhe ' . States wUcbP01? areireeiy allowed o tne smps oi;n W Mresty VieneeCrS-'v i r;Vli V The coniiriUcunce .which,!1 under -such circumstances amottts so nearly to direct hostUityfo . after the wi)lingnesf professed, and' -yr the aVteiipt made by his Majesty, to remoVe the causfe eh which thaft i v measure had ieen orinallfbund vc). wnM kCTinrA Kur.an inmin;r.io:1i ' omen-lot'' the commencement f a5$ svstem F tnntitfl! rnnritlal irtn "S.- ana 4 f the omission of itny? rlpUce of that M; measure in the pronosathich MrH:fe? P i nckney Hash ee n instructed to bri hg forward, would have been "of jtself a ' material detect in the overture ot ttist: w rrc'-idenj. . .v - .-. , .,: -; ;;: ' Dili- til A - ftlVk -l nsn a mM n A&k' i ' ed no further tatdyvell ubonthis sub ject than for the purpose of assuring a mi'K.iicy, iuc ou iut? uu c 4 , r; : s ry point in discussion between anov two governments, his 'Majesfp.fcat $3 nestly : desires her Ve&toratior perfect, good understanding, and tHa'i; his lajest 'woAiId decline ;nom; t sure for ihe attaiipmentokth ject, which . should vbecrrjpajtiaci!: with his own honor and just righfs : ' A and with the interests.of his people.' The undersigned requests that fytxi-&$ Pinckney wijl accept the ssuran4e5v f his .high eons'diratibn.''!lt:?;W-,i; r?.0Mr THjE EECAErART v Or STATV!- 1 - tr o mr. -ERskiN,-' ' " JDrfJrnttyMtfaiy '4: , SIR Paying President, yb'ur Irtter of the 23 d ot-;;,r-j February, explaining ' the .chatac i ttr of, certain British orders oF council issued ioltfbyerueC I proceed. to communicate th0 ob servatipns; and . representations . whichwill?' manifest; yo'u'o verninejit the sentirhents pfe.jtho' 'J&esidchi on sq deep af viofetiori : of the cotpmcrce and rights of thQ . - J United; States.-; , 7'v '$c These orders interdict to neuX iral nations, or rather to the Unl ted States, noysr tbnlpmmerW ; cial nation ui a sme-.'of npxtrsiiifyfiM G. Britain, now nenrly;ihe whbl&' commerdal wcarld, with fcertain ix?ijL regulatibns,but too eVidentls&Ml nufacturinc: andf thet fiscal policy of Great-Britain t and on that acA count.thje.rhore derbgatory Ironig uc ,uuv - Ma;; uiucpuuencck t ueuirai nations.; r-y The orders are irie rrVor ralli'fli. lated to wite fltlf prize in the States as 'they have disregarded wic rc uiuysirances .convevea in naiyv ; letters of the"p)th a,ndtii Mafej" ; 1 oragainstanotheirprdervof coUni cij issued on I similarv plea irr thct X month of UnJ.isOT To those maet S deed ever givenj: whilst tpordetfe ut,u vV"iJucu jirL ir,3; ptvrni y, , cious; operauorij agamst the lawful commerce oi tne lii .rur: nrf we nowfinded tp;if othemirS : . .. A : . 3? S " . titutini stiU more ruinous denre- Jimeuon trw.anrtitin '. ,':i brdeT'pfarv QTeatlvstn OVprli'lanr in L AfTrt2 :tf J y tMiu urn v., ..j,.-y !eikerao,pCUhe cree oh Vyhifch the ordr was tb'rc uliate, hacluhat decrie4ri its hte loperiMoe to. ihe U&tatthi0Mifa LTheist orderillike'that.of J nqary, riroceedonthe ''mostliaaiUiS stantialtbuhdatirmih- ror ij S retallatiorf 9Nhct2?S dhgerent aamn a nejitra Wnro ft ; which frr;r-Jr .4
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