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s - - -"'""";J- - - - - . - "J . v ' '. '- ' : -vr'--; .v..'; : ii .1 ft ral: Thursday, Jakuart 19, 1809. 447. . . and ' ' . : '' North'Cdrolinm$iuie Gdzeiiei V L. X. COMMON COUNCIL OF LONDON. Brot.on, of this d.turhed nd m Jbeotulbod, of men, on r.c v.n. the ar Ute ddr to'tb King .on ih TubJct o IM Ute Portuguese Conren tioiC Vbe Lord Mayor nd Common JoancU Ktmto leixrd thu ocr iontoeprJ the r indignant feeling . tUec nrtirct f then Gutcr. meni Fi, ra :hee, aod other iirvurding, it is xiofekt that the pirent Ministry dp execrstrd b the PeopW. fXnotba. stin their UMjoitifiaolt roatie. A a forthet evidence of tie ireet.rg of the Stst CK.. foi the Mrtvot of BMn. ve tne following Speh of Mr Qp,n fn the oa.siov. It .sem.k.ble tact. That there were ouly three a.rntH.g voters to of the lUauiuions. xir Ouik rfi: mart scr.onrttd the rise in supponof the motion which has been ma untl 1 am motned :o do so in a mmncr that will do awaj aU prejudice in icnl to mc ai a re prcscntatiTc of L. tdon. W c rC cal led UH,n to decide 1 1 a question, la uhtch not only chRfiny, the coctMstency and h.nor of the ci.y of London, but of the whole lour.t. y, anrinvomd. 1 mi, a friend to th Minivers in several of thvi. foreign m a.urrs- 'I.howwter, upwn thw or. casint avowrdly by aside all mi rivcrial prejudice. I y e art bound to consider this answer as corn'me from the Ministers ana n-t from his Maj s'y ; far it is a well known principle in the British Con stitution, that the Kin :, as chief ma ri:rate, can do no wnn, hi" iih: Uin, conferred uiKn him solely for the public g od. Upon these, ground therefore 1 ror idcr he mswci piven to our ad .reas as tht an swer of his MajeMy's advisers, of ibc noble L'd ( HawKebnry ) fr.m fhoie mouth it reuJ. It was a proad day for this court, and for th. jhUe country, 'hat called f.'tb an address which told his Mj?ty suc inloubtd truths ; and the answer it is such s ouj; .t to be recciv. d not with sorrow, but wi'n tl -sdain and con.em?t, I see that acting js a UJy representing the ci y .it Lon don, we have a -est-an l lobit cause to support he right ol hv people to address and petition the so verei n. It was unnecessa- y f r Lr1 Hawkesbury, if he be a. all acqur.int. cd with the nature of the llruish constitution, to tell thr citizens of London, thst It wis inco.isiient with British justice to pronounce judg ment before iriaL It was vich a tru ism, that I would have thought hat noble Lord was dreaming when he dictated soch expressions. If such an answer should be read by poste rity, uncoupled witu the address, it m y be thought that the ciiize.ns f Linden were so foolish and &o igno-! T-n: ot tne consiuuiion and oi law and justice, as to have onc up in a body to call upon his M-'jesiy to pronounce judgment upon person without trial.- Such an answe m-:ht nurcly hare originDted from oir pro- nouncmg our stcti meats so stro.. j sj in a manner to antic pat-the ju: g wtnt that was to follow an enquiry, na mis supposition ts conhrmtd by thc concluding praKraph of thct a :.jhiih his rank, or exal ed his blood awrer, which says that thi expeidi ture has disatpointed thv hopen and expectaticrrs of the cou:::ry." The recent ocrurrencrs auudeu to, mut have been such as involved the honor of his Majesty's arms and the cha racter of the nation ; th;y must be the cases of Whitrlock ant! Caldcr, which arc well known : the Inter a merirorior's and g llant .fTicer, sunk! 2nd degraded to the utmost misery, for having gained a victory ; while the former, who suffered a ciisgtarc ful defeat, has been allowed to go Into a splendid retirement. Had Lord Hawkesbury recalled to his re collection the occurrences of the last 16 years, lie would h-ve found np OCCasion to fnrtrt url, irnumo Did he noi recollect the retreat fnin ' Dunknk, aud his own marh to Pa ris I It is truly remarkable, thai a man who has o many r.ppoi tunnies' ei Knowing and combning facts,) uuu'u -unauii nisovvn neart, nu askbirjiselfaheiher thetc oqgh' not to ! have been actions , 1 11 ltiC5C trans- 'ihe retreat ft om Diinkrik wascchductcdLyaRoya!Dukc,com-:j mandlng 40,000 men, who had no sooner landed than he found thejre was not sufficient artillery, that the balls did not fit the cannon, and therefore he rould not enter upon the" intended sieg, in consequence of which the enemy Rained a signal victory. That was surely a case which called loudly f.r enquiry, and how came it io pass that there was none ? We come now to the evacuation-of Holland ; and we find the same Royal Duke allowing bis troops to march tinder the Tdot Un exampled disasters, which, If pru 6nt measures and precautions hid been adopted, might havr been i voided ; hut during all that lime the Roy l Duke was himself in London I next come to the attack upon the Hclder where our troops were st n:. as it were, to the laugh'er, withou a commander in chief. The nation was upon that occasion murh ndebt d to one man, the gallant Aber crombie, whose menvry will i rer b embilmed in tin recollection ot pos terity. Dm these cass afford any thing like evidence of a proper sys tern of wavfare prevailing in the country ? Ai"t yet no investigation t ok pWe. Bji above all, 1 would ask, why there -was no enquiry as to Feirot? lthough our army be c qually well intmc'rd and disciplined as our seamen, yet there is always somi thing to tarnish the British arms, owing to 'he egregious mis management prevailing in our mili tary system, and such private en quiries as only tend to stamp our name with infamy, I come now to what is called - he interposition of the ityof London -an expression which only tends to make the people a kind of x)l between Ministers and his Ma jesty, and to create a barrier be tween thepcopl? and their sovereign. Besides the cilv of London, various o'her places have been guilty of th: interposition. The city of Wrst ntnster has also interposed ; a -d to morrow the county of Essex will be guilty of a similar int- rposition. There was certainly something lik-. th s form of words used in times not Very fivorable to British liberty Such was t- be f"und in the next ex traordinary answer ol James Fox. in 162 1. when his Parliament ad- j dressed him upon his abandoning the ; Protestants, and he t:ld them ht i wished for no interposition unless he J was wilting previously to desire i.. So much then t ir the word in'erpo si'ion. There were some men, so married, as it were, to prerogative, that th y even seemed to tet 1 respect for despotism, as a guardian of li berty. These mert tell us not to look at cne of our ancitnt charters, Magna CAartf,northe Bill of Rights. I have only, however, to refer to a plain act . f Parliament, the first of king William, ch. 2. where it will be found, thrt the subject is ernpow- ered, at all iimt s, to petition his so- veietgn, and thai there shall be no nnociiment to the txcrcise of it in a fair and manly way. If this act be not attended to, we shall run the riik of being treated in the same manner as ihe courtiers of Russia arc treated. It will be found tha: in that country, no subject, however can sena a w.titfon to th- throne, unles- it be hst presented to a mi nister of statc.-If rejected by one minister, he may prcn iv thvr, and if again rejected, he may, if he chuse, vi nuire to present a pe tition to his majesty, but he does it under the pain of forfeiting his life. I will not insuHt the court by alking of the times of Henry and Lrizabeth . they had a precedent before them, and hut little remains of British spi rit lo control in m : yet evn their answers to addresses and' petitions were much more satisfactoiy ihn he prcs nt repulsive one of- lord H.wkesbury. The city of London addressed Charle H, at the timu he was taking violent measures, und struggling wiih diffitulties, Tfty told nim many truths', one particu larly ihat he had done wnirrg in go ing to seiz. some of the members oi the Houi of Commons, nrri That h ouh: not to send any more persons to the tnwer. His answer was rmi h m ire resprcnui man nis one, con- -tl. i "inpr the nstnKatiitrsV of tii. imcs, wuca he wis supported by ercry tyrannical prindrjieV tt is ' . f . v. i now, therefore high tioie for ybu to make a stand to preserve your rghts, and to banish the vile system of con gratulation and Battery. You have used plain language, which ha been treated with contempt by minfetersj who have thereby ireritlered them selves contemptible. You arp per mitted, to frou&forth congratulitions to the thronT JimX to send theje jry labubs andjhtfi-hul wficn yot ven lure to send up'rf dish of g6odiEn&' tith roast 6'eef9'ht.y may.Utbut they never, desire to comega"m., Mr Qliin then read a passage from some of the letters of ihe late Oliver "j Goldsmith, expressive of the utjnost contempt for congratulatory address scs and fhttery ; and concluded an imnressive and eloquent speech by giving his hcany concurrence id the motion as first proposed. , congress; HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. Ft'rfay, J)ec. 30. Mr.Quincy presented a memprial from a number of mariners, and 67 masters and mates of vessels at Port land, stating thai they had not earn td a single dollar in ten months, and had been on short allowanct great part of that time; and praying em ployment or assistance. Referred 10 the Committee of Ways and Means. The following message was re ceived from the President of the U. States. To tbc Senate and Houte of Repretentativet of tie U. State. At the request of the Governor, the Se nate and House of Representatives of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, 1 com municate certain resolutions entered into by the sa.d Senate and House of Repre sentatives, approved by the Governor on tbe 23d ioat. It cannat but be encouraging to those whom the nation has placed inthe-j diiection of their affa rs, to see that their j fellow citizens will press forward in sup- port of their country, in proportion as t is j threatened by tht. disorganizing conflicts of ! the other hemisphere TH: JEFFERSON. Dscei'nbtT 30, 1808 Thomas JrrrERsox, Esq. Sir- la compliance witji a resolution of. the Senate and House of Representatives of the Common weaiih of Pennsylvania, passed this diy, I have the honor f tians mitting to you certain resolutions with a re quest that you will lay them before the CongTCiS of the United States. Accept assuraho s of high consideration and esteem, SIMON SNYDER. Lancaster, Dec. 23, 18Q8, p Whereas the situation oT the U. S. in rela'ion to foreign powers, ii eminently critical, and calls tor all their energies, una nimity and patriotism to' preserve those rhts and that independence for which our fathers f-ught and conquered; And wuereas, in such times it is the duty of the constituted authorities, to aid the corrt mm cause of our country,, by declaring anew the r devotion to the principles of the declaration of iudvprndence Therefore, Resolved 6 tbt Senate and House of Re presentatives of tie commonweatfb qf Pernio sjlvania, Tha we have the tuileat confi de nre in the wisdom, the patriotism and the integrity of the administration ot die general government, and we pledge our selves to operate with tUem to the utmost extent of our power in all measure which may be deemed expedient to ma.ntain our national honor and national rights. Resolved, That we considtr the embargo as a wise, pacific and patriotic measure, called for by tne best interests of the na tion, and Well calculated to induce an ob servance ot pur natfenal rights, without a ! ! i lome uorrors anu ucsaik.,. c 1 1 and the principles of a free government, j Resolved, I na. as the ocean is the com mon higuway ot nations, and as this com monwealth is deeply i interested in the pre servation of nstreedom, should those pain ful measures not produce the desired edect, we are xiimly determined to unite our ef forts io those of the general government iq the maintei a ice of its rights. , Ret'Uved, t'hat the governor of this com. mornx'f alih he rfauesteii to forward conies of t?ie foregoing rt-jo'otions to the Presi-1 dtnt of the U. fe. with a request that they may oe communicated by hin to the Con gress of the U. S. (Signed,) &c The message was ordered to be printed. f The following mesSagfc was also received h-ornr the Presilent of the I To tbe Senate ate arid Roust of Apre tentative-, j of toe u. states. . ; I lay before the Legislature lletter from ... overndr Claiborne, o the ibject ol a, U small tribe of AHbaraa Indians hi the VVes- tern s:d f the WUssissippi. drrsisting of iout a dozen tamuies. L.ute h her erratic tribes in that country, uia nainiood that . thy hve. hitherto moved from place J Dlace. accorrfino- trirtheir convenience, wun- place, according tdrtheircoiivenience, with out appropriating to themselves exclusively any particular territory ; but having now become habituated to some of the occupa tions of civil.zed Hfej they wish for a iiied residence . I suppose it will be the interest of the U. S. to encoiirare tKe wandering tribes of that courftry to reduce theniserves j io rucea naoitations, wnenever disposed. The establishment of town and growing attach ment to them, will fornish in some degree pledges of their peaceable and friendly conduct. The case of this particular tribe, is now submitted to tbe consideration of Congress. . THs JEFFERSON. Bci. 30, 1808- I s i . tostta ft Saturday, Dee. 3t. . t . , Mr. Macon pfesented to the House a copy of certain resolutions (JieTe tofbre inserted -in this paper) adopt ed by . the General Assembly of North-Carolina, approving the rrrea sures of the government, and pledg ing themselves to support theiri with their lives and fortunes. , Mr. Rhea I (Tennessee) offered the following resolution, which was referred 'to the committee of tht whole to which the non-importation bill is referred . Resolved. That it is expedient to inter dict by law, all commercial intercourse be tween tbe United, States and Great Britain and France, and; their dependencies, and all other powers having in force orders or decrees violating the lawful commerce and neutral rights of .the United Slates. The House .took up for considera tion the amendment of the Senate to the bill respecting revenue cutters, for striking out twelve and inserting Ihrcc. After some observations from Messrs. Newton, Taylor and Story, the House refus6d to concur Ayes 76. The Senate afterwards receded. Mr. IN el son observed that this was the last day of the year 88. For many years past our old soldiers had beeh applying for relief. He though it would be a meritorious thing to begin the nrwj year with A jUst ano generous act;)- He therefore asket. forth order of the day on the bill for ttfe relief of the infirm, disabled and superannuated officers and sol diers of the revolutionary army and of the present army of the United States. This bill it will be recollected contemplates the establishment of an invalid coi ps. J The bill was takiti up, went thro' a committee of the whole withou an objection, and was reported to the House by the chairman. Several amendments were then made to the bill , After considerable discussion on the details in which no hostility appeared to be expressed to the principles of I the bill, a motion made by Mr. Blount td re commit ?t, for the purpose of adjusting the details, was carried 58 to 25. Mr. Dana, from a select commit tee, to whom was referred a resolu tion on the subject of our navigation laws, reported a bill concerning as sociations, for the security of pavi- gation. Adjourned to Tuesday Tuesday. Jan 3. Mr. Macon fom the committee on so much of the message of J he Presideht of the V. S. as relates to the amendment of the militia laws of the U S. reported that having care fully examined the system they are of opinion that no amendment is ne cessary, i . The House; having agreed to con sider the refju'rt. 'Mr. Macorj observed that he had not concurred in opinion with the committee, and therefore intended to tmufce a motion to commit thp rp- port with special instructions to re port a bill for classing and arming the militia. ?If the report were to be agreed to, it would foreclose any proposition on the subject during the session. IThe plan which he would propose for classing the mili tia would not !go to destroy the pre- sent organization ot tire miutia : but merely to;cfass them accordhip; to age, so that youner men should ' trrsl be ca,lec into Service. It was f ; a rafe thtnig that old men and youn? men accorded well together. " Old men could not oear fatigue as -well as voutlg mem He wished t m- ,uu ? iu iu: . ?J,,C" .?uus.,u inc U wgtiner. tie Believed that were sucn a plan 10 De adopt ed, trom thlN .Xf t0 fortv thousand men would an. t nualy be added to. the liststthe arm ing of whom wpuld cost from four to five hundred thousand dollars annii ally." In the course of four or five years alt the men ih the :4rst clai$ wodld be armed for. dutyj and be. competent to repel any enemy. I? was the only mode whicH united great utility with great economy. He had before him a statement Itlade at the last year by a gentlerrian froni yirjginia (Mr, Clay.) The r.bserva-, tions oFthat gentleman, he said, werei well remembered by the House, and he could add nothing to thep; They proved that a large corps woud al ways be ready for service,! anot that the nu mber would daily j increased " Having premised thus much he, of fered th1 follovving resolution : RfisoLyEiThathe report,l&c be re committed to the edect committee and that they be instructed to report a bill to ctasi the militia according.to agei and to provide for arming such as may hereafter be placed on the militia list at the public expencevH Mr; D. R. Williams hopird nonob jection would be made to this reso lutibn y for its adoption would coni mit fiogentIenian bti the principle involved in it.- J I 7 Mr. Uesha wished a division of vhe resolution) as he was opposed to the first add in fator of the jsecbnd clause. J.-;. A motion ivas made to 'refer the report td a committee of the whole and carried. Some debate took place on tHis motion, in which Messrs; Lijron,.Macbn, Nelson and Clay, ap peared to be in favor of t$e princi ple, .and Messrs. Sturgei, lUrejl andTallmadgeagainst.it, 1 On motion of Mr. Jackson, the! Hotise resolved itself into a commit ;ee of the whole, on ths bilifrom the Sehate for enforcing artd niakinjj -moi"e effectual the several; embargo laws, with the amendments report ed by a select committee of this House; j The amendments reported by the select committee . were severally a greed to, j Mr. Van Cortlaridt, after a few prefatory oBscrvations, expressive of an opinion that the embargo should be repealed as soon as could be' con sistently with the passing other acts, and giving equal notice to all our s merchants, off jred the fol a neV section to the bill i j lowing' as " And be it further enacted tnat the said act entitled an act laying an embargo on all ships and vessels within the ports and harbors of the United States," and the Several acts supplementary thereto, be repeated from arid after the 4th day of March: net." . ! ' The Chairman observed, that al though he individually believed this motion to be in order, the House . had iwice successively decided a similar proposition to be out of order the other day1 because the subject was already before a -special com mittee of the whole ; and he felt himself bound to abide by their deci sion. . ? Mr. Gardenier appealed from the decision of the chair. .', The cxmmittee cohfiVraLed the de ciston of the chair. j A motion was made by Mr. EUi ot that the .a)rainittee rise and re? port progiress,--Neativid Mr. Jackson tnove'd that the com mittee rise arid fcpt'rt ths bill as a mended- ' ' : .:" JMr jfclliot entered upon a continu ation of hh speech whicfe he com menced a few dars ago After Mr. Etliot had spoken aboui : five min a quorum. utes,' it appearing that was not present- Mr. Dana suggested the nroDrietv of the. committee rising land report ing " .that there was no quorum." Mr Macon had no wish to sit her6 whilst gentlemen Were gone to their dinners ; and moved that the com mit tee rise and report progress. ;; Mr. Mosely said it was an old maxim that 4i dttlce ef dttorum cst ftrdp&iria ihori j' but he had no idea: of starvma: to death for iti The committee rose,and the Houset adjourned. utday.yantA h ; ' Mr. Newton offered iiit?'' J9!--. direcune. the Cdrhmiti&r,ih- merce and Manufactureab the relief ofdis tresd b axdJsab'iid V Si I it hi ii . . , .- i i ' ...... . ... : . I . . , j . . . - - -,. w.. ... ...... .( " " , . r.i . f I
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