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' DEBATE
.v Md Rewliition rrportei bj the Com.
On tbc 2nJ . ' - tt, That n
?rt!?l.? fnL of 10,000 rrguUiiroops
.7b; immediately rUcd. to
' . nd tbtt bounty to Unas
-for J t. . - .nliit.
ought to be girto i o". :
. iS V - .i-tr. Jli- not
icnKui ..w.. ; - . - . Dan from tueDcuirai grouuy c
French decrees-.exiw i ; -v .; nor wa theannoyance of ovu
kainst your Tiphilul comrorrc .
SDokx of the arfets or decree of the
French directory. ; tnese nu .
. .t-i r nnr mar me neutral
nr.cacaf.C3 on our marl tme ncu. . v ; in that of the laf
rights that the liritiah oroers ac u. g r - thesame. decree
a .,nrii thR lnt Tears 01 ir. jfut':
at ju u(uw -o v v j
Vs.
menu.
Mr. STANFORD the R- so
JaUonbtfore the Hou eor.ttmpUie.1
Ku-WBl my, and from he.vojr-
Sg.hreorWyo-e upon
lo ,lt . . Vnhiecu Hi was 'h
probably And .htmstu m - -.--
minority upon the question. lie was
umconvjnce uuitmuu
.xnenUhich vro
for him: tit, he uiruw e, -
rWgh to set his mind .gainst the me.-
1B if he enTw rote, he said, f.r
"...j, . CKV ihould vote in-
Sr-llh i fc. former op.nU n,
SSfrrindple. upon the ubj. ct , ?nd he
Vould neter .hiok of .ding . P wcon
Uh himself-and that more
Dtr vhen aU.hisexpeMence had
"Pe to cor-firm hiS first .mpre.on5,
ST bone vrejudice.
c.i.-K f-fttablishnunts na ai-
armies
rays proTcd the bne.of free govern,
ray yv how we
anu'tic tuuiu -
h them, and re-
vrcre to gcv a.w. 0 -
sumed nor was theannoyance
commerce less vexatious in his time
tbn tincev In like manner under Mr.
Adams1 administration .the same corn
warlaid the mouth
"" - . . A
urha.bori, and cptured your t-
fel ; and the n'i aucccsam. -
U. S after the quasi war commences
W84 the taking of one of these cruizers
in the roou'h of one of our habor. He
btReed leave to read the decree
and there were omen ptu :
,am tirne.no. less obnoxious : r
r veisels. in wbt concerns their quah y. as
sohs administration the same siaic ui
ihincs continued, certainly with an in-
ijj . fi.;itunrf. tn whir.h was
creased acgrcc ui .--
,.rl or tnt my. nu - -
. in cnnce. .ver J
i ...h..i nr in uaii -
sea l
also added tht more aggrayatininsuit
upon the Chesapeake V Mr. . Jcffertpn
had never been suspected oi parnaiuy
f-)r Grrat Britain, an'l thenf indeed, the
accepted time had come for a war witn
,hat g vernmeni allparileb were uni
a nA nlt-dced themselves to support
him in the war. The pulse of the na
tion btat high for it. But hfelt, be
cause he.knew, that peace vas the be'
interest of his counliy and iorebore to
call Congress together. He h d always
sdmired the man ; but upon tnat uuca
sion he felt more thun a sentiment of s?d
miraticn towards him. When at leng h
rood they added a further indignity to wltng, had thus accumulated and call
the nation in the persons of its envoys. cd Lr omc systein of cuuoteraction 5c
ThtrV relused to rtcciTc uicm i resisin&ct
cha'icter as such but clandesiindy tried, the embargo was resorted to
. K.nitr. ncrrnti tointricrue . rt'Umpr? 10 .war : and when that
:l tncir sutru" ui -o . w I ' i c ,
with thtm tor orto s, anu WAi jont. away a system uun-im.
. t ...t...i. in mrt. Wl
ikcen, iM r,,'.M h,P ncsseisions.shaJI
comxrz ww." l the
. .-I . .1 m.irtrl TO Zf. WW" moj "
Tn .Tihi P.iduc.oi or Md-;
"To the spoliations committed under
j . thi k nd. whicn tney na
refused to retribute und make
the nation in
m
,nA u,mner
?iderablc time willintia tnc nc-
nuin, heb.lietdWeWtre,.ne .ree?.
But. we re told, r iuo be dechred
-,1 " '. Uit od 'J the army
da;. Wc are then topassout of theli
. r .u- tToWd States, and wee a
. t r ofTniivt kind I II
war ol mc iuiuhm""' , .
7,2. w the conempU-ed use of th..
" K-r.niiid. he W5 Mill Itir more
opVd tothe meiW He ... .pin
:il ,tir. id -he policy of it, nd
'could by no mean, yield h.. oeto
bring it .bout, That there w.s .uffic
.e?t fue r war, he a ready to ac
:. So-ledge ; od he -as not d.spo.ed In
the sm.Ueit degree to pallute the of
r..rG.nriu.n.or.lhat of.nyo.h.r
bellicertnt. coromitttd on the p on. or
nrtr of oufdiiwnfc All -f them
hTdSved War ..our haodbu. , we
hid tt no t.me. "nee the commence
meot of our present R0Tcrnment. seen ii
"rihterestorpoiicy to g..c n'o-.l m he
orenand declared fcrm.mr that ,f any
ofh. form except that of . cha--racter.hich
happened under .Mr. A
?arnVa .dmin.s ration. Tlu qui.
Lr had been, -he-.her we hart or had
notcaue ot rar oui "ncu.e. .... ....
. interest or -he U. Stages did no , under
.1 "rcumstanc-s. call l?udup..n in to
chemb peace, .-d Toid war and us
eTu"t ihe last of the alternate, b.
fere a, ; sndlhWMr. bt,nfo d sa.d. he
iould be able to show. the repub
lican doctrine. well m the o d mino-
.. ri,y mes,'. since that mtnon.y grew
ta,irifi;ant.omTenne,,ee(M,
r had made direct appc- lu
.h'bUcn par f, -
rally and unite thvrnin this l
IcasO .'A. ocirine of war. If tte
peal ofhe genUeman n-u . . -
Khim. he.wculd beB Uw-to dey
some of his pmi.kns. He had h.rose I
i.a .mall .hre to act in the poll-
tical M:enes of 1798 Jc 99, and he was
i.a i.. find from the centleman s decla-
( ration that he had joined in the clamor
vl r.i.-,.fn null down the then federal
Xmutrmtioi for the unjustifiable war
trh.ch they bad gone into with France.
Mr. S. said, be knew hc bad ,mned I in
it most heartily. He belteved he then
"V:i.. in ftll he did to supersede
hL as richi. The best interests of the
uy forbid the war. and o the pec
c'd ermined. when ultimately they
caroe to decide the question. That par
I. -.u-. .f, hv the aublic voice, the
nuhl'ican, matonty was oru ,
- i in upon their own professions of better
ncles, the loveof peace andtconop
- mv: .But Dbwrgetting c-unold pro
VIJcssions under French ensis, we had
'raised the cry of war under a Brpurii
one, and nothing short ot it was
Mr. S. decbred if. there
anV difference in the causes of war
then and now, he thought it turned most
iwiderilv in favor of tne torroer penw,
since tbc more intolerable outrago .in
cvssary passports for their return home.
mtrn.. and indignities like these, Mr.
I Willi- o . - ,
S ssi(LHe republican minority of 9Z
and '99 did not cons-der of magnitude
enough for the U. btates to torcgo me
great interests of peace and give into
war, which was then made to redress
them. How the gentleman from I en
oessec (Mr. Grundy) could avow him
self the tdvocateof peace doctrines then
and those of war now, w mid be for him.
self to reconcile. He ft It that those in
terests were as omnipotent now, as tbey
were then.
n.. Mr. S. the centleman from
S. Carolina (Mr. Calhoun) tells us It is lo 5e repealed, and such, gentlemen a
i ..c knnor in a n&lion. as in II ri. .kJ,..lvHvariDoinUdin US tpcCts
m nrfTlClPlC vt hv" 1CIV vuriMJviifc---rr-
an individual, to resist a first insulu U
such d-ctrine is to be admitted, when
.,..in we have a moment's peace ?
From one or theother ol the Deiiigerenis
of Europe, since their late wars com
menced, we have never been without
just complaints against them for some
.-.:. r Aiir nrutral ril?ht!U and Ol
viuiauuu VI
course must have taken an early share
in their wars. The truth is, we cannot
liken, nor will the similitude hold good
between an individual's honcr, or his
and that oi a nation
course was substituted, and to that ugiin
succeeded the present alternative law oi
.hime kaid : the non importation sys
tern which has giown out of this with
r. Hritain has not been tried one whole
year yet. 11 gentlemen will have it that
fhi.-u the acceDted time for War, how
has it happened, that we have n had
it before. Our councils may be presu
med to have been as sensible to a,;grts
won, and as patriotic to rtdiess it as we
now are, .
He would beg leave to turn to a vote
cf this House at the last session of the
tenth Congress, when Mr. Jefferson was
iiiT President. The emDjrgo was au jut
eDsiblty to it
A s'p.gle imprcisment or cap ure may
be wctl admitted to form a ground of
isai Buu wi
rcpn
but we should have
. rtrtu.. il
tinn rniiini at-iiii i.1 w uw vv "
under the existing circomstances of the
WOl
,rld, and belligerent Europe, we
had
k'ness of StrnsibilllV,
and bad gone to war, for a first and sin
tie instance of aggression from either
of the belligerent. The same gentle.
- kk.t .trv thinrv now calls
man argue vv " .7
upon us to make a stand ; that there
was no danger to our liberties in a stand
me army cf 20 or 30,000 men, and that
a5 all admitted there was justifiable
cause of war, and he believed it had noV
become necessary. This wasdeclaim-
M . S. Said, very nanusomeiy up-
ti cr
nn thesubie t of war, he would agree ;
hi. vrrv well recollected we had
k.rrf the same docrines precisely, and
h ihoiicrht he might be permitted to
. - M...n nf declamation, at least c-
aay, a on - .
oually handsome upon the same sub
icct. L from the same state, in 1 7989.
Vt .ntnded as the then doctrines
i r & Ba m.M .
-o. and it must be admitted, the
..i of it were so alike in their cha-
riPrl it was fair to expect ihat in due
time public opinion would come to be
the same in botn cases,
Rul Mr. said, he could not per.
rrive how the present of ail others had
hr omc the necessary and accepted time
for war with G. Britain. The attack
nn the Chesapeake, friga'c hod been late
ly atoned for to the satisfaction of our
and he trusted had hot
hem ro done as to aggravate the crisis
ofrir hptween the two countries. If
calculated to do to, our government
n.dd not have received it. The im
prcssment of our seamen was. a jus
complaint Bgiu
m.nt t hut it commenced under the ad-
t.:.'.Hhon nF ftenertl Wjshincrton, U.
no one, would sy he was less sensible
to national honor, and independence than
ourselves. Under all the circumstances
-, This aUouorUs s apposed to be to Mrj Uar-
per, then troo i i-axouaa.
were disposed to substi uie a more cn
eicetic system than that of nun-inttr-course,
and proposed the following a
mendment to the bill and to cause
(meaning the President) to be issu-d
under suitable pledges and precautions,
letters of marque and reprisal against
the nation, thereafter continuing in torce
its unlawful edictsagamsiine commerce
of the U. States." This was consider
ed, as indeed it was, a question, of war,
and the vote stands only 33 to 74. rhc
..ffair of the Chesapeake then hu-go-
ver us, and all the circumstances unaer
which we found ourselves called more
imperiously for redress than they ever
had done before or since, and still a dif
fcren view of what was the true inter
est of the country prevailed. Again, he
wculd turn to the second session ot.the
eleventh Congress under the present
arf minis-ration, and mil we should find
that a Uige majority in this H .use were
. : 1 nM1tn nhmdonthe peace ol
the nation. They were disposed to
couniervail the Belligerent Edic.s by
commercial restrictions, ana to aaopt a.
6 hnrt of war : but
nothing which should endanger ih
nf the country. A bill, however,
. j 1 . itUnr.(inT t he Presi-
was mtioauceu aut"
War was no 3roafi consideration with
him. .In '98 ?, Jt wasv fashionable -to
coifnt the cost, arid, look at he- taxes to
fnllnv 's that doctrine now rowever,,was
ty to read, betore he sat down, a pa&sac
or two frorn a pamphlet pf Mr. Nicbo-
U of Kentucky, wnais now up iuu.m
but who was aV that timelconsidered or
thodox in all the republican doctrines
of the day. m In a war like the present
,v Mr. NirholasS which we have now
v--- . r
made an ofirnsive one, eyery tning y
thi kind (speaking of the tax) otigbt
to be taken info cojisideratibn, althqugh
it would be improper to do so it pur
n-ontrv was reallv attacked by a foreign
oower ; because we ought tnen 10 na-
.. - . . . . . 1
zard every thine: rather man Decomc
siibi-cts to any foreien power." Again,'
"If the lasting preservation of the honor,
'iberty and Independence ot America ts
our real object, we should caretuuyaToiu
war durii.e th infant state ot our coun
try. Sum premature efforts biing on
a state of imbecili y in the political: as
the human body, and prevent
either from attaining 'that degree of
strength which they would otherwise
c rtainlv arrive at. I wenty years more
nf neace. would leave America iuiiy
r ....... . . - I
competent to detend at. her jusi nguis
irninst anv na.ion. l,ive years war ai
,u!d. nr .habiv. Out it out of
IttlJ UltlV .t . j" J . . ; t I
her power to do it with efleCt tor one
hundred years to come.
Mr. S. further added, that as the U.
Stales was the only portion cf the ci
vilized world which enjoyed any share
of the blessings of peact, he: nad trust
ed the present state of Europe would
form an argument better than any he
cfuld use, and a lesson complete against
our having any ihing tp do With their
unhappy e nfiicts and wars. ,
I3ui, Mr. Speak -r, said-Mr. a. oppo-
sed as he was to the idea ot tne unuet
S.ates becoming one of the belligerent f
nations to .the linking our destinies
with those of the European powers ; to
h takirie- anv share Mn their present,
conflicts, if his country once determined
upon it, he would not then hesitate to
vote any force, or other means to bting
it to as speedy and as happy an issue as
possible; till tnen he should preserve his
own consistency ; and contribute in no
way to bring about that state ot Mings
which he believed would prove nuw.
ruinous to his country. 1
make not oilVf McOTiafsacrifives hut
toexpwen persp the. i;
rights ; and Jntem country, in i ;
my rpresen6tyer carVa.c If
dertake to say thap by constituents
w?Hdo no less v i Sirthe demon Ayance
w hich;1)enumbs everyrarip emotion ot
thesoul, has not; yet gained tne ascenq
ey in; thsbuth jhhe love of ojintry
an 1 mates every praai, sum ,uuim
unextinguishable ardor siry they feel
Mr. KIN (from N. C,) Mr. Spea-
ker, I should not htve trouoieu vu
house with any remarks ot mine, nao
it not been for the observations, which
have just fallen from my colleague trom
North Carolina, Mr. S.anford. I shall
ot attempt,, sir, to follow that gentle
man in the history which he has given
of the progress of 'party in this country
bu,t shall content myseit witn stating;,
that in our sentiments, we entirely an
fcr : His is the doctrine ot submission ;
the most abiect submission
m;nA t trust i not. 1 am in iavor vi
,i, - Mcr.hitinn now on vour table. 1 am
lilt. WIUW " " J
aware, sir, ol the mi';y important con
hich utnH naturally suggesi
r .
themselves to the mind of every real
friend of his country, when he views
t he t consequences which may result
from the Adoption of the measure now
contemplated. When, sir, the habits
r Miimn. ino-i afted as it were in its
dent of the U. states .0 cnj T -- . ut lQ 5e deDarted
armed vessels, ana peniiuung iuc .y . ' " r ,u ,nh.
lie
fence
1 m opm fnr the. dt.
M-t rr- nuiu tcia w w - -
of American commerce." The f-te of
this measure was simwar iu maw
preceding Congres, and appears to nave
been neeaiived by a vole of 67 to 47.
This too was at a lime when we were a
bout to repeal the non-intcrcnufss .Law,
which was done, and the nonimportation
system suostnuieu "
tute could be carrieu ai uny w pe
riods, and so far it has not appearea to
rrave been the; accepted time ior war,
and he trusted that uroe bad not et
come. i , 5
If, said Mr. S. the proposed war was
to be of the defensive kind, a war which
hid become necessary to detenu, our
selves at home, there would be no he
sitation about the cost or difficulties to
be encountered ; but it is avowed to be.
rnn.iMt. We aie to take the Ca-
nadas to insure respect to our maritime
rights J that we should be able to take
them he would,tiot pretend to doubt ;
h., it would orobabH be attbe expence
of much blood and; treasure, and , still
perhaps without corning', afry nearer, to
the object cf it, that'of sectlring respe
50 thoseights. To nation, youp
Growing; and prospering, as we were,
the burthens ana expenses o iwiwiu
from : when the destinies of the court
, ' - .
try are about to be launched on an un-
tried ocean, and when tne aouoi i
bout to be' solved, whether our repunii-
can government is alike calculated to
support us through tne inais auu uim-cultit-s
of war, and guide us in safety
.i.UM th, rvortip corretit oiDeace, 1 am
uurru : '
awire sir. that we should pause and pon
der well the subject ; that we should
divest ourselves of those warm feelings
which most generally take possession
of our minds orT viewing, tne upjusi
prostrauon of ,the rights of our country.
Sir, that interest which 1 feel jn com
mon with others,"-. on the decision of a
nuestion of such maenit'ude-and impjr-
.,fw ;u T trust induce this House to
k.V ith me: a momenu whilst m a tew
ivnrX T exnlliiithe motives ly which;
I am actuated in giving my decided an
probatiottp thfe resolution how tmder
nnilHration; It, Sir, a were tiucrcijr-
to turn my ittehtton to tne ioca.siiua-;
tion of that portion orinc -uuivijr M.
I have the honor particularly to repre
sent ; it extensive .anj? rexposed sea
roast. ; combined with Us present com
mercial advantages, I ; should, Without
hesitation eive ray Vote to the proposed
measufe. But, air, as p my individual
in common, J trust wth a great' raajo
rlty of eyerr nortion of this Union, the
degradation , of our country inubroit-
ting for a moroerit longer tofhe dis- :
honorable term, proposed directly or ' '
ihdirectly.by; the British government. :
Mr. Sneaker. I hold it to be1 correct,
j thatin :diwW''9ub)t' tsuch im"i ;
tportance, A view,, ot tne various mai s,. s,
ters .necessarily ppnecteu wiiu l
not be considered irrelevant ; out, sir 4
I , will not weary the patience of this
house with Vdetauof injuries urtparal i
lelied inthe iistory ofbrmes timcf i
wantonly, inflicted, onva nation which!
manifested t9 the whole 'World her,
sincere desire to support the neutral
stanrl which had bsen htaketl at the"
earliest period of her government and j
most tenaciously adhered to. We have
"restricted ourselves in the full -enjoyment
of our rights, lest by strictly en- ,
forcing them.'wCjmight produce a col
lisionwith ljany nation ho wer?, little;
her conduct might be guided by the
principles of equity. Sir, we have borne
with injury till, in the language of your
committee, forbearance hasceased ten
be a virtue. We have remonstrated,. -
we have appealed tof the justice, to the
interest of then wo great contending.
powers of Europe every effort proved
abortive, bur calls for justice .yere
drowned in the declaration that their ;
measures were merely retaliatory, and
riot intended to interfere with neutral
rights thus sir, the matter rested.
When paCinC proposiviooa ncni.auimu
ted to each yes, sr, by an acr which ,
has placed the Impartiality ot our coun
try beyond the reach of suspicion, we
demanded of each the revpeat'on of her ,
obnoxious edicts as the only means of ,
preserving our friendship. We all know:
what has been tne consequences i wnvc,
has met our.adyances, has embraced
our propositions ; Great-Britain not on-.
ly refuses a repeal onjher part, but
while she aff cts to lament the effects
produced ii neutral righ s, takes the
most effectual methods to render them
perpetual. Sir blindness and ignorance
itself can1 no longer be deceived by BiN
ush policy 1 ' i-tyv-yy
We have been told , sir, thatlhjs will
b- av3r for th support of the carrying
trad, ilet mej here remarkand wish to
he distinctly Understood as avowH?gmy k
deter minatiori never to give ayoWglso
long as I have 'the hprior o aiseat on
this flqifrS which will tnyolve-th1Wiil.
try in a war for the recovery or support
of thfs ex'raneouvspeHes of commerce.
I believe I shall hot be incorrect when
I assert, hat nine tenths of this country
n. rep did atd never wui, aerivc inc
smallest benefit from it But, sir; the
richt to carry in; our ships, the produce
of our own couritryf tq any quarter, not
thereby Yiolatintthe,. laws of nations.
or contravening legitimate municipal
regulations, is tone which never wui
y ield i' for, sir,ifi so doing-wef par. lze
thtirtdustry of bur citizens, we give a
fatal blow to the best interests of. our
country tyes,vsir, we yield the princi
ple, we invite tp farther encroachments.
Our country, sir, is agricultural, butxso
intimately blended with commerce, that
he we cannot long exist unaioeo oy
the other. Sir, I will not, yield an inch
of ground, w hen by so doing I dc stroy
an essential; right ot my coumry, orsap:
the fqundatibnDtthai independencete
mented by the.blood.of our fithers.
We were told by a gentleman irom
Virginia (Sir. Randolph) a few day.
since, that we . liaye a ,surnciencau5c
f.r war. Itask! you then, sir, why do '
vie hesitate; ? ' iShall vve"; alwajrs yield?
Shalpwe ; alw ays shrink frbmhe con:
tet3heT&p-ifn of this resplutiows
It&chstone by it -we rise or fall.-f
VYe have been asked, Mr. bpeaKer, wny
not lav upon the table a proposition to
go to war I 'Tis tberef sir, tis contained
ih Ihts resolution the momenrwgivc
itrsariction we declare our ifiited re
solvto rerid eflective the. fercjricon-,
tempiated lo be raised, esr, unless
Great Britain manifests ;q1spoition
speedily to ! do us justiceby her cts,
not by oer i words. The gentleman
from. Virginia calls upon' the jfetep
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