DEBATE on THF. WAU W I HI AMERICA, 3 ,sTRE BRITISH HOUSCOr cqMUOKC toid Castfcreagh regrrUyH thj atrihc circum unccs .i tnc-ar, .1 . .. .i r.tional cl mii of the hoVutfh . vi wlih America Should havt i I wan an evil ihjt the war iiij. 1 .i.,..Wbc rxtemlcd. but particularly ii'cw tlirrction, for he ko.w ftoac in ithich itcouM happen with j i rin coanjaoii with Prlinment i icdthe nUioo, potwithstandiDg thr ,;i ami furice f tb'r'grouods on sich we had been obliged to tnttr ic.a t 1 was, however, 5 cono!a . r.-,c K2f though our sincere endea roo t prevent ft had fai:ed, thr jus tier ltd .oecessitj ol nur messures rrrc so ennnected with, our para tr. fst icirrest'. that ihc ft t lings of ihtctuctn mutt gq along. with fffmtDti ami form thr best plrclg c! 'corin tomlut ting the wa' an t fcr uU - f ing that pcac r wh'tch w s its cciv cijjc--1. Tuc Arocruans could fttc stideaf to rcaton," as that our tii; W.d not have itiuc Weigh; iib them and induce them to, call CJitcirgoernrornt for peace. His tjOiitiOLi would be, to a&are the Ktg.-ctrhatthev were confident. of the hicc of the war, .and relied to the Lit exertion of the countrv. In rfxiuR the necessitv of thc-?Und gf itmmcDi had tnude, he iclt confident Aat thwe who had recommended nc- f:utioojK:ih America, if they found dn ifce had ptefttitned upon mere iC'pcjed .''pinions in her favor, nould U lav .eg the most forwarti to resint ti, ilo to maintain tnc ngnis ano sctcniuof this countrv. America t tfton ste, that anxious to be her bud, We were rqaally dctt rmined .i w iarVnder tvtUr Wtss ru! r:tur ictcrcftis. Hcbmntcd. tlut i'a.ui tvcr anr un; Vubject of gric tiwt, though settled by 'auicble ?ry, and t vn bv explanation1 and :uno.tut io some cases, h.d been tcrrht torwuru : the tendenc if bth wjs to protract every reason a lx hope of peace," bv inQamit.c the p:! lie feeling. - The diflcren.estil o-, p&?cn here on the Orders in C:uu- arcae rather upon commercial t-x-fderct, thaon the rights of this tuxtn to throw back on the enriny let'em of his own injuicc. "He nc!d nave that subject at present ; ctxustiav, tht no rcla taiion of tce Order. prcc(:cd from -any di Fuico to suflrr our rights to be fcha itr. Government wa always, anx fcciso to modify the syitem, as to smodatcacd ccnciliute neutrals ittuth as possible, and toembjrk ;'fccrica, il it cou'd, iu 9 proper fed r;i the conduct of. Ftanct. Un 'wall forms, uc distinctly matnuin T5d pre?crvcd cur rights. ' He ti-u'dtver defend theju&ticr 3nd ne teMty cf the orders in council 'both fcinst France, and- in the con 'plaiion of sound policy for the U:"ts of the briiishA.mpue 1 The of the Ameiicpn markn fH.tt icjure trude in some pla en ; the orders, France would Teceii commercially triumphant! - c coatiucnu As to the. bio k ItUS, it icnuined for three lri -Dcomplaictd of ; even tHelA an Minister in Loncldn praised Muy of the governmentwho 1 dc Tt K Its justice hid been mce I my muineil by succeeding 1 '""''o. 11 was supporicu. aistraticns. t - l -r Uw$ of nations, and rested l - M.WWI V WTu1"1 P01" of . maritime tt" cxt great point rnadc jby . mcrcao govcrnmcnt jwaa on a hich Mve 'don.idciccl "19 be. U the main pillars of r.iniri-ueegth-.the right of impress titb V .crc01 orerturei t4jf American government ha 1 -upon thi point, he thought the- r eculd not sec any material dif. ant, howtvcr, to-oscrvc the compa", ia:ivc degree ol interest which hiidr, Pruset forward in so prominent a nanncr. tie could not avoid ac knowledging, that' thr sdbjects of A- ncrica, and the othfrr neutral ntlons must have incidcntall; sufTerci! fythe exercise of the rights of the betlistir '"'ot'powe rs. It wa natural for them t : feel 3 strong dtaireo protect their; .ubjv . s from every incti?V';nience ; nd 1 L-hfY vhad ur cedf their claimv .i'.h f jjnrwna)lecrinpert he wjtiM fue whic Uvy m'ioiiic&teti. At the lume tnpe k.mut tse TcC'4;ctted, that tnc questioQ 10 America was only of qmveniMitc or irjconvennpt-r whereas the questinn to this country wa one ofviul importince, touching the manner in whtch.our maritime jirength (iip .n wht h our" security rested) had hithei to 'been upKeld and maintained.' We were, therefore ju-uified in Viewing the subject with vtrrdifTcrcdt feclmgs with ut being justly liable to the charge ol uking a hght6he and wi' bipg to lord it over Amcrua as "a superior nation. He conct ived. that the Amerj. au-govern ment had acted in an unworthy and discreditable manner, in taking a tone upon, this sul ject not consistent with ! reason or good sense and which went so d'rcctU to break that harmony be tween the. two countfies'which' it wouM be so desirable to preserve. 0 , w been pleased to assume, that a very inc vmeii.arv cuvcrumciioi nau considerable : number of American seamen haclcti imprcwdjn board our ships of war; and the) had made out their list so far as to ca rul.ue ihem at 20,000. Id prdcr to give a ny colour to sU h a statement, they must assume, in the first place, that every man taken out of American ships was really an American sea man. The statement, however,' was jfioihing like a true account. Aithu !the whotetinibcr e mployed in our i fleets amounted to 145 .OCX), when the lords of admiralty, in Jat,utr, 1811, t called upon those sailors, who claim jrJaie ihetmclvcb, there were only o5VO who pretended to be American tamcn, and mis year there weie j considerably less. When the truth ol their allegations was examined, it did not appear that more than a fou th 01 those who claimed tube A tiicrican scameDi could -upport their claim in any manner : whatever. It tiut in the hopes ol getting their dis charge, many would have asserted iiieutscivc 10 le American seamen kvh were no;. Instead of twenty thousand, it would therefore appear, that, sixteen or seventeen hundred was thelfreati&i number ol American scanico which we could have in our h .vy.'How could any rational pet1 u ical y b li vc that this country would go to war wiih America 4idr the puipoie of keeping su.h a -small numtxr of Americans jn our fleet When the Amrricanj government, nuwevcr, et lorward in suin strong colors the number of American sea ne- impressed in our vessels, ij was rimarkable that air the J maritime sUttes'of A&ierica from ' which tndae teamen must be supposed-to Abe u I vinceson the c Mississippi, who joined U jn this ground of war ; the President but' the public feeling Of the maritime and commercial states of A oertca was iveryevident from their not ha vrogVivcn a singl. vote, for that'.Pre sident who made the impressment of their 6e-meu the . great" pretext of wi. 'tSQJajar hear.J ,'Xte believed that.it would be, very evident, on the jnerusal of ithe Daners. that this co- ( vernmpnt. had. acted throughout in tpc cpjr u pi xqncuiauqn uu 101 oeai nc9 but. that do such , dupositious were, manifested' ori the part-1 of the ia anv material degree, and disappro- jfcjia he believe Vbey ; could bave'' pie- ved ot , t.nc war4hat was underukco vailed on Cotigr ess -lastrycar, to have on that pretence."' It was the agrjtui- iicd otherwise th q they tlidr- Thei e tural states of 'the sobtb. and the p'ro- AV.rfc tu,n narties in America that ; the assertions;' of the' NoWe Lo'cd were correct as, to the hostile dispo t siii (Vis of the -jVrnerican government, j whose conduct iwas little Influenced oycuropcan sjstems 01 pontics. Me tumeauco in a mi c urucrs m ioun cil Wefe,intfoct with them, the grnundidf tbcdclarittori of War becaustr the J.Me Lord, . in one of his very last div-'lches to Mr. Fos tcr, wJiich Vaiuo -be communicated. m cxtenso to tm. nmerican govern tiat these Orders were to" begivtn; up,, wtiiic in lace iney were repcaiecr before therqispat.h arrived at its dee tmation. He wou'd appeal t that Hon. Grntlc man (Mr. Foster) who 1 1 I'jirn 1 i 1 s 1 oau luinueu witn so raucu aoiuty tne instructions he had received, and had now a seat in that Houie, whether it was not his rpinion, frorp his knoW tedge of the sentiments of the Anne rican Executive, that an earlier saeri . fi e of heac Ordeia woulcl have. pre vented hostilities? But the Nobh- L rd talked somewhat too lighilv of 1.600 Americans being in our Nayy. Hewduld ask, what would be the id- digoant fefling of the people of . this counu) , if they knew that so many of their fellow citizens were, forably compelled to serve in the navy of ano ther power rutting the ctse home to ourselves was, alter all, the true H way of viewing the question, and should induce us to make some al lowance for, the hostile feelings of America. The Hn. Gentleman then condemned the conduct of. the war. He said that the American . coast af forded great facilities for enforcing a blockade. In the Chesapeake, ships might lie at all titties in perfect secu rity ; the same might be said of the' Delaware, and nearly the same at N. York. Mr. Foster said, that as he had been particularly called upon bv the honorable 'gttrman who spoke last, he woulcl beg the indulgence of the House till he a hriefl) as passible delivered his sentiments' on those par ticular points to Which his attention had been called,' as well as such others as might occur Jo him as likely to iveany information to the House.' The honorable gentieman had asked his vpimon on one point, viz. whe ther if the rcvoca i-n of the orders in councihhad been known in America before, the declaration7 jol war, such knowledge would not have prevented that declaration I This, he said, was apoint on which he cou'd not venture to 'give a decided opinion. It was certain, that in 111 hiscommunrcatlns with Mr. Monroe, and the American government, gre.t'stress wasiard oii the orders in council and hevalwa)s looked on them as the grievance of wljrth not only the government but th--American people, complained most heavily. At the same time there were Various reports-in circula tion, of other matters ol. compla nt, arid contests were carried oubetween the several parties with great warmth. The war party, he believed, had ta ken great pain to keep alive and fer:. ment every subjei tf dispute which had for miiny'yeai a incidentally arisen bc.weaifhe two. countries. He tho't jhegove'nent were, uot sulBcTently; master;! tneir own couum c,; nor. , ft ! t f ;' . I m . u r. . . . I r. ...n. Wcrc Vefy wa, m agaihstthis country. I rj0c 0f thcm hadlccn in favor ot the h rrnrh r Onhition from US Com-1 its com mericenienl, arid were inclined yto-. wards the-intcrcsts- 61 France ; . the oihcr. was what is calud ?the Antn LAnglican partyihp were very' active. in - bringing about the war wun tnia Country - f ; : Mr. Whitbtead said, i .tne ttousc were much obliged ,r, tofthiC'honrjgen tleman' whd had given them can ac count . of matters which 00 ;one.cUe could have jdone. For his own part it was-grcat ;consolatton to hirn hear from the hpn gcntUnajri, . that not, , as they.had beeq rebresentect by mmister lt .t-rench, put.that botti ot them-eemed dispbseli toj conciliate. Doe part of he-hon'b e centlemanV speech he VfishedhifU been 'omitted, viz. -where he spokridf those who hadfwarml J'taken i gari-ajgarnst; the proceedings of this covernment, as nothing w4moe common than for men in public asseni'lits to be. mis understood and misrepretfedted. He' and those with whom hr bkd long act; had.oin heen thu misi prcentr 01 tne rv mce cuegrfjt; dateri jarr Zls of April,. 181;' in which it waV said that nothing but the Unconditional re peal of the'Yrench decrees wouldpro. cure a repeal ofthe orders -in council. U was from that period, probaV y that rhetAmertcan government determi nedron war ; yet he was of opinion that after all the insults they rcieivct! ( hear : hear ! httir !) if the , repea of the ordcrs in council had reached them before the dtclarition of war, tn .t war wou'd nave been prevented : and if the noble lord had acceded to the repeal When br$t pfessed to. it hi his honi frienttMr. J3rodcham) the intimatioawouldvh .Ve arrived in time tor that desirable purpose. ' He tho't that there would he cb aidnh e ,if ficuity in adjusting the article as io the imprest iog the s: amen , but he still hoped it migHt.be effbeted by ne-c-ociition. He lam otcd, that -with the immense navy, of G. Biitaip ' a gainst that of AiueiTca, ' which ucoh sisted of only four , fr g ites and a few sioops, two 01 ournnest ingates were owJn"their possession, captured by only two ot theirs, this was a reverse which English officers and sailors had not before been used to ; .kid from snch a 'contempiible. nvy as that of America had always beeu beld; no dne could suppose such: ah event could have tikern place' . " Mr. ir. Smith said, that- upon the t-sti jet of "tirt j 6.ni'tf-t;M'. Mudroe naa personiiiv txpressea to mm. nis sense ol the. importance of that ques tion, f He would ask what G. Bn tain, would say, if. any foreign powpF maintained a right to search her ships for subjccis ? And surely a government who could submit to Lsuch a right was not fit to exist as SUch; Remarks on the above. fn the Debates in the British Par liament on the war between the two nations, given, to day, the' respectable and, ' able minority in that assembly have evinced a spirit .ot " armony and conciliation towards this country but it! will be seen that tfiey, like the ministry, arc disposed to maintain in principle what they are pleased to term their right of impressment, tho'J tney appear wining to- suspenu us practical exercise. . . -. As to the- ministerial s partvr who will no doubt coatinuelo power, we cannot see ; in. their speeches any grouhd to hope for a justpeace in any short time.'. Their obstinacy in er- ror is equal to the flagitiousnes of Lord Castiereagh evinces his con f tcmpt'fbrtherights and libertiesyof America, i wnen he remarks mat. to the5;:Stet p&sVment was one bP mere . convey Oience oraincoovciiience 11 ne ieeis no regard for individual frcedom- let Hi mm icnow .inas iui. prevyu. a the b: igKtest jwej. whicli auorns the Am'e r ican boComiihcT that this ."go veromcnt will protect its seamen, as well as otner cuizeqs, .iu uJr , mehX0f.1t; i jrroughout his specK, the British Premier-, follows the Es- sexj unto in spiritatlclqi af umehtf f y Our tfederai wadcVi'ittpelv in tne speccrr at iir. r Mcr tnc j-nc Br itub minister ireiiclent Wahf ingtdnv3n;thc HoQse ofeCmnon ail Opinion, expre$sedf that our executive j COUIU -UOL UYe avuiu&u u uww aisnrovinc: theTeiteratedasseirtionpi iV-Vr O'-:.' ifLJEL .ui-w ..i'A,;.-t'Tf tne xcuera uaucf.- u wiaivij.v tfon'ot wariif they had beeo disposed to da iUr This VBHtish Sutnoriry iyr;, Foster thlotsery differently I he believes thtit Congress arid.the na Uoore jjjldediy invfav6rf resist ingEnglirqngi.V He secmsr net to -have believed tht federal calumny abqut the French predilections of the American cx&cXimtC Rime but po litical knaves, dupes and bigots be iieje the foul slalera- The foUoing infrpr ek V be drawn from the rf&ye deli says the; Editor o(t!fe JVitionat:Jvtetife , gHbturetf G .Brttj by 5. pniy minister,' that, at Last, 1000 native citizens of the tJ. States h-d-beenr impressed into th,Uhna'vi?siv: vice and were detained therein 'i the , breaking out of the present war.:; ;lt is admitted by ir. Foster, late B itish minister in Hhis coutitry now a member of the House of Com monsT, that Mr. Madison does tiot belong tpa French party m this cbun; try i that the . administration is not influenced by f?rance ' 3. The-reason assigned by the mi A;5tcrs for' sq jond . laying the, b'ock adcotthe .jCjesaeake.ftp'Oelawafe ba is, that it might hayeHtopped the supplies, of bread and 6rn toahe- j Peninsu'ji. ancf impeded the impdrta- tion bf British tnahufattures into this " countrv. .;-.r' .; 'H- , '- ... The language Mid by the m is precise ly that of the opposition on the s. floor of- Congress that the eastern'; jnd maritmtfstates have no interest in the war--i(i&t it wsproduTed Jjy the ' southern and agricultural sections1 of the Union, and the .ide is held out of couquering us bv xlivison.' . 5v That though th is orders tilrwere modified xi the .-23d ot Juncj ; -J$H 812, yet that the ""principle, wthxi -' f," J jwhich they were udedvfas abi -'rS '.thereby conceded. m wncjto W MM r wiujrcsenco, aim tnat. com mei oqvrfeh thewere condltionalf sus-. penaed. Wewillnot anticipate the result of cuceuyusoj ourreaaers upon, ; these in ferences; since the v are asJob- ' . ' ' M ... 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