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"VLXIV. -1 . '3 FRIDAY. DECEMBER 101813. ' . : ' V'y'
GENERAL ASSEMBLY.
r DEBATE
On the AdJreM to the President.
Com Inuct! from tur lxst
. Ir. .VcnPHRY. The gentleman
wo mrcVihc motion Tor an iodfcfi
n.fc pnftpontmein having assigned
ri aor. ioT U wil become the
thvv o! thoie vho bnve tabnvtted
:hr" rrport ii ht w to the Stnate the
rc.ur!N i d uliKh it ii founded. The
fn:U-mis principil ohjectiom to
t ie Krp rt srtm to grow cut of rx
ctj.iicna whuh he nwkn to the cor
rti?iK5b :1 clrtail. He helieved
ii cnt'nnrn wv;ultl lend him their at
ir i tit o unt.l he cxibittd rruin dncu
n:,r:u .hich xrrtv before him, ?nd
1 strn to facts huh werr uithio ihe
lcnovJcvr.e'f Mcmbemrf the Senate,
)r l-iiid li'h!c sstifjctotily" to
that this Heport rrmiinrhe
It had not K-tn the yr:sU of the- com-
II ill 11 amii."M.i;uunii. .!...
r.utree .Mt. M. aait!,to,mitic fart.
Their c4 ea had In rn (and lhr be
li.vtfi to he t'nrir tluiy) to submit
to ihc Sem!e and through the Senate
i; S:a:c at Urpe. an expofition cf
tr.c csp' rt"i uatuno( : ur,?cJ.rt;a?t,
and uhat h.-d hc-tn dcre by the Gt -reiiil
lMeinn.nt lor our dtfenrc.
'i he tomtnintc v.-; s opinion 'that
t;.i 3ute, ir.ce the lJcctartion t
U nr, and hi many jcars In fore, haif
hier. n; pVc!cci in an unmerited way
U tie tit rr: (tivercmtnV; in?uth
n f -S tn ihr'n ojir.ionden ardtti
the most decicjt d i xpiMon c.i ecu
pt4int and rxrr.t ntrcnt from the Ly
U:i!uri. cf :h Ca?liiv. It it
p? pr. fio hr, tH?i the pcopie cl
lctth Carclinn t-l uld kcow the ri
tuati n in hichthey stand as a mem
ber oi the Union.
With Eubmbsion to the Senate,
M. id, he would examine this
Report paragraph by paragragh ; and
exhibit such evidence of the several
fa.ts contained . therein, as inched
the committer to mi.k.- it; The prin
i iple o! the uho!e report is contained
:n thr frst idea rxpresi d in it that
it is the duty of Government to pro
tect its members o long as they &n Jl
remain nbrdimt to it, Jaws." . It
oes un to rxpress that the constitu
tion hiving vested in the general ga
vrtnrmr.t the right to declare war, it
U du ir duty to pibv:de for the gene
ral c!cleme. 1 his is ooltomed on
the principle tint id'egiance end pro
ttcim jr fec?p'o U 1 hen C4mes
ihr pn?praph to which theger.tlemn
hs made n-r excptH:ns. If du
ling the ptiiiKj or peaec piepa
ratiou lor defence have not been
m-de, twr." 15utwi the gentle mm
' ctid i f t aMro. the re-oilS on
th'uh bis objections to this ort ol
xhc report were founded, it nqtl
Vhi power to o!iviatt thiin. If cur
coast had been ftcg'ecud ' white wc
ere in a state of 'peace it no cioutt
bcumc thedu:? o! gcvnn ' h nt to at-
ftr.dto it as soon as e golintoa tate j
f ar t T I
J o the next pargrph wnicn te-j
rrescots th: State as left to her own i
(Tcrtf, the gentleman object as hi
corret t. MIe alledgr'thai at the time
rf thr irvaMon thtt.. was found on:
our coast -a company of Regulars
at Fort Hampton anc another it '
Fou Johnston. 'Mr. M. had not
doubt the Report in thi part is sub!
tuntilly comet. He was ; nab?c to
aicert.in the precise day on which
die Regulars left Fort Il.tmpton; but
it is a fact, thattheV marched nt or a
bcut the tir e thp rnemy invaded our
coast. It was a little extraordinary
that these troops should have been
withdrawn just at this moment, ac
cording to instructions no dcubt, giv.
cn before it vas known that the ene
my was about to invade our roast
Is it no; a fact, then asked Mr. M.
that N. Carolina was left to her own
iTorts ? Where was our cowt inva
led ? Not at Fort 'Johnston nor at
I:ort Hampton, where these new re
cruits weW; but at a place where'
'UcTejWas no means of defence at
the most vulnerable' poinl poiot
from which the moit dngerwU to be
be, that there was aft company bf Re
gulars at Fort Hampton, and akother
at Fort Johnston, would it havtbeen
prudent to have withdrawn Ithem
from this place ? It is true, then, that
in repelling the Enemy, the Stati hid
to depend upon nerown etiorts acne.
To what point did his Excellence the
Governor direct the Militia wich
were marched from this city anjthe
adjoining counties, but to the place
of invasion ? So that this part cf the
Report is literally correct. Indetd
it would b no reflection upon tbe
General Government to sav that this i
little force at Fort Hampton and Fot
I Johnston, was too contemptible tu
" . r ... 'u..y
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kind f troops he asked were thes
forts ? Has there not been a regula
mem anv rcsorit in,m ua rirtir
succession of raw troops- the com
mandicg cfurer,s'v of whom, if no
wholly incoinprcm, were so in
1!
rrct degree. lie wouiu aK n ineu
t tt i : f . t
guns have not been fufUred to rust
and the munitions of war to perish,
under their rare I When our fort are
thus !t ft to the protection of a Vouoc
Captain:nd a few raw young nouhers
what depeudancc can be placed upon
tnem :
As to tnr nve gun nors mat were ,
19 99 . SBli?M V W lllo W 9 W
, declared, and. afterwards laid up, it
i was not for him to accouat for it ; but
! it is nevertheless true. He did not
; turn to documents to prove these
facts because they are detailed m the
message of the. Governor.
L It must be evident, Mr. M. ob
served, to every gentleman who reads
this report with a liberal eye that the
committee had in view in miking it
that portion of time which has elaps
ed since the declaration of war ; and
keeping this in view, he enquired if
the fa els .stated are not Hterully cor
rect ?
The gentleman finds fault with the
committee, because they have not
stated what kind of Vesssels are want
ed on our coast ; and asks whether
bigatea be wanted I Certainly, not,
be.ause we have no water in which
they can float. He did not pretend
to know much about military orxival
officers, but would refer to 'the opi
nion expiessed in the message to the
Governor, and to trie opinion of mili
tary men who had visited the sea
coast ; from which it appears, liut
small vessel of war would afford the
btbt means of defence upon our coast.
i Such ins are found at Charleston,
j Norfolk and every enher exposed. k-'
! port.
j The gentleman from Edgeomb
(appeared to have hi sensibility most
eciteu by that part of the Report
which states, that thTre were no re
gular troops on our coast, except ii
company .f Artillery at FoTt John
ston! but which has becn hewn tone
ntcrally true '
The next paragraph in the Report
speaks of the detached Militia . On
this subject, he would read a few do
cuments, as they had not been narti-
cuiarly noticed ,by the Governor in!
! his message ; nut belore he did so, nc
would cialte a remark on what len
fiom th6 gentleman, by way of ac
counting lor the neglect of Govern
ment in not furnishing the men with
tents or hospital stores, attributing it
to the ignorance of the officers com- j
manding.the dctacnmcn.j, jana tneir
not making proper returns. Howe-1
ver painjui mc mivjh i
veitheless correct as stated in the re- j
port. . The truth "is, that though at i
the time cf the, invasion,-there was a
CorrTmlssary of Purchases at WiU
minnton. Yet immediately after-
wafrds,when the troop were placed at
Deep-wafer Point, the Government
had dismissed him Srom office, and
thus left the troopf destitute of sup-;
plies r and that the proper Depart
ment had due - information on this
subject appears from, a, letter from
Major Campbell to the Department of
War dated the 31st oi AugUit, (wnich
MrtM. read.) Mr. M also read a
cltter to the Governor iroro William
( King, Esq. our Representative: iq
ij Congress for that district, speaking
of the miserable and destitute siiua-
tion ofhe men. Mr. M. also read
a letter from the Governor to the Se
cretary of War ; and said that in ad
dition to these documentsheexpeV'
ed information woJd be given to the
House no this subject by a gentleman
who had an important command in
the troop's called out on this occasion.
Mr. M. adverted to the answer
which was returned from the War
Department to Iub Excellency's let
Xer, which takes no notice of the re
presentation made of the wretched si j
tuation of the SoFdiers ; but in rela
tion to the enquiry which he hd made
about the manner of paying the .de
tached Militia, the letter states 41 tht
tiie expence incurred by the Militi3,
will be defrayed according to the act
of Copgrftis-on this subject." And in
respect to medicine and hospital sup
plies, the Governor is referred to a
Deputy Commissary at Norfolk.
Mr. M. would not comment tipon
this reference of the First Magistrate
of the Str.te to a Deputy Commissa-
rv of Purchases in another Sate.
1 The th:?.u sneaks for rtr.elf.
I . Mr.M. isked how the troops which
ilhad been detached from other Stfes
-i
biid hen tieared?
Have any com
plaints been heard on this subject ?.
They have not ; and if there had
een the same cause for them, they
ould not have been withheld. No
o he States have wantrd the spirit to
:emons.trAte w hen they hvc been neg- f
e. ted ; but we seem to he a' patient
kind of people, and because we are
so, the General Government btlieve
we shall never raise our voices in re
monstrances against them.
The next paragraph speaks of the
Soldiers enlisted in this State being
Ull sent away. Notwithstanding the
senbibt.Ky produced on gentlemen by
ills remark, die would ask if it were
true i Have any of these men
bttn employed in our defence ? It
j mly be, indeed that Capr. Copeland
j wlh was a short time at Fort John
jsun might have enlisted his nn in
th't State. Uiu, 11 the gentleman Oe.
co: 'ect, 2s to th-s fact, it is notorious,
th? : ever since the declaration of
W x, there have be:n a number of
tr( jps .encamped at Salisbury i
for e. which if it had been employed
on ur fcoant, would have greatly re
liecd our rdilitia, rnd i)een of no dis
advantage to meo who had tnlited
intd the service of their country.
ilri M. read a letter from David
Sune, Esq. one of our Senators in
Cincress. exoressine surprise, that
ou of all the men enlisted in tjiis
Stlte, none. of them were 'retained
for the defence of our sea-coast ; and
staling that our Senators and Repre
sentatives in Confess had represent-
ed o the proper Department our de
fer ;elcss stated.
j iut it had heen said, that the troops
of lihnr h;irl bi-in nnr!r mairrhin'f
ord.rs ever smqe August last,' and
tha the General Government had
the: cforc good ren to suppose the
,tro( were then on their march and j
hadleft the State Mr. M. believed
be was not incorrect in statiocr
that'it was the duty of thejComniand
irig Dtficer to make weekly returns
to e Var Department, so that it is
net possible .that the Government
should be igonrantof the situation. of
these men. f .He'beiieved the first to
be, f hat though the troops were under
raarchirtQrders, their jrface of desti
nation was unknown; f rhe commit
tee thought, therefore) that the State
had jgood reason to complain that
th esq troops were withdrawn from lis,
at the moment that a probable attack
by (ne enemy upon the Southern
States was made known. In plain
language, what does the intimation of
the General Govern ment, amount tot
It is this, 44 The enemy has sailed
- ' i
from Halifax ; the southern states ajre
supposed to be their destination ; but
though danger is approaching you,
we will withdraw our troops from yon,
aud leave you to"shift 35 well as you
can fdr yourselves." v
Mr, M. in conclusion, said he h nl
endeavored to answer the objections
which the gentleman frorn "Edgcomb
had brought against the Report H'
hoped he had shewn that the facts
contained in the .Report ate correct f
and beir. so, Jie asked what reason
could(be assigned why the people of,
N. Carolina should not Ic now them.
It is, said he, beeause Gentlemen are
afraid that this Report will derelope
something thatxwili 'give discuietnde
to them, and produce dissatirfacVion.
But Ie,t the truth be told. Shall half
a million of people not be told of the
dancrerof their situation, lest the per-
sons wnoaa minister tnc ooycrnmciu,
should be offended ? . If, said hcj we1
are come to this, we are irt a state of j
humiliation which he never expected
to see; y
Suppose, said Mr. M-the lSnemy
should land on our coast, and the de
tached Militia should be again called
out, have fhey not a right to kno?,r.ow
it is thatthe requisition is made upon
them? Have tbey not a right to
know that it is the duty of the. Gene
ral Government to defend then ; but
that failing to do so, the citizens of N. j
i Carolina are left to deoenj Ui5on
themselves alone.
Shall we be always afraid' tor speak
the truth as a State, from a punctilious
regard to the President of the U'litcu
Sutes, on any otherpartpf th. Go
vernmeiU ? If, said he, we wih .to
have our rights respected ; to h-ive
our State hold its proper weight in
the Union, we must etuerttun and ex-J
press, on all proper occasions, a just
sense of pur rights and a determin
tion ti nuppors them. Th s question
has nothing to do with die unhappy
disputes which divide lis on partv'-po-li
tics : It is a matter between the U.
States and this State. It is, vvhetner
we have not the right to demand pro
tection, tp remonstrate if it be with i
held, ilelieving the Report con
tain a true exposition oTour situation
oe hoped the motion for an indefinite
postponement would not prevail.
Debate to be continued.
LEG ISLAT Olite OF SOUTH CAltOLlN.V
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The follcwinfj extract from die Meisageof
the Governor at ihe opening of ihe Legis
latare oy jdie 23d ylt. are worthy liFatiert
lion. To institUe measures df defence,
and to direct the energies of the nation
in such manner as shall produce upon
the enemy the strongest inipresionj
(says he) belongs exclaswely to thcGc
! ntral Government. The preparations, i
however, which shall be con -idered ne
cessary to the. belter secuVity of oyr
cOjst, as !iey cannot fail to i'e dcepiy
intereslitiij d us, so they wilj tpu.ut
e;s obtain f'rpm yoo-'ali lbs atiention
iu -y deserve;" 'Every tcingi jt is br
uevedi which Vltpchded upon the Ex
ecu. ive has bcc: d rne.'-j Purchases of
arms and 'the'muhuions cfrwar to tht
full extent of the appropriations subject
to the cOntroiil qfiliis Department have
been either actually nude, pr contracted
for : the General Sufi4 has.oeeh organ
ited : the mihia 'have been so classed
that, sllmild occasion require! any riim
Her of regiments ca.i lie gotten liito the'
nv itj wnnoijt cjfijy, ; ,anq.,suc4r n:iuary
positions as ,veii dejenjied .requisite,
iv been dire'eted to be 6c.c(QuedJ The
extension", or cor.tracncn, ol tlicse plans
of define will, of course j ne deernunf d
by it approp'ri'dtiohs which you shall
ih'k proper "lo cnakeV -C' , ,.
" In inviting' your ftntion to pur
mi'itta sys'.e'rni the '-subjCt has been so
often odder your rr-iew- It is -'scaitoelv
necessary to remind, y.ou,pt its. be:.
A'Renerai fevisin oCit rf strongly,-.; re-commeijd-d.
Ih doin Jhis, thc.neees
sity ot rendering more frequent, atthe
discretian of the cpcnVuandingjOfficexs,
musters by cQinp'4nle;V lajions, regi
ment, and brigaks,?nd also of making
at lyasl annual, ih&tirau of bienoial, fbt'
eDlampmenvof ihe olficers.of each bri
gade, w 01 not t'il to 'preseh , i tsef f.) t
saggestjo you.$Jsp the poUcy f tncrcas
ihg the 'number of our divisions. ; VVhile
these re atprcsent, so few;that . ;p tJit
event of our troops eanngtn conjunction
with thjse ejther.'of the llj. States, xr a
sisier Statej pur4geoeral ofTist-rs'-must
almost invariably be oiftrankerf; they
are so large and embrace such an x;
tent of territory, that thecommand of
; them is not only inconvenient butybtu'
; dersomj 1 v; ' '
" If is not in the i rnilitary syVrri;dn-t
ly that you witf'fiodjiT'Otiisr;!
menr; Our penal code cajlv l6uavibr
correction To adapt'lawaSjQe'iba.
racter of tlc.pcpple far whom theyvare 'r
intended is he-first m
gblator The paiiiical inUiloiiohsMe-
rived bom oiir aocestorsy haver beeft
long since liberalized Kandt.mfrnveiQi;:-
Let us not continue to cutra'the texK r
ip of on r 'countrymen by retaining
the barbarous ahd .unrqual systeijt of pd- ,
nishment jderived ironvthe same source.
That paishmtnt should be prcjhipn-''
edo ciimc. is ihe lauguage hdt bhly of.
fiumaniiy but 'jirce.ln a code, how
eVtir, where the nltifcufo upflieiiWM"
ajiot ted tp not less than:: 1 65 oiTertcesi
the idea. of observing this propdrtibn Is
idl list me earnesUy commend J to
youthen, Ja &ubsVirute far thefthtsh-Y
ment of .Heath; imprisdnrnent.lnd hafd' .
laboi; Pniteniiariesiiaveeenesta-'
bbh-d in so "many of pur sister itatesj:';
that the s u pe nor e mc cy of t hi s speci es
of pnpish men: is no longer theoretieali .
but d monstxated hyexeriertc It t ;
uTyre.l x -i -Fore w? h i hi more Colifi-;
dsi;ce fur y.ror.adopiion.f. . . , iV ;j ; ;
lixtrartof a letter from Maj Cenw V"ilkinon
' to tfie Secretary tt War; dated Mead C$uar
tevs, French Mi is,, adjoining the Province
of Lower Canada,, Nov. 16 li, 1813. -
" Vo h aye under cover a summary
bstracttof fie feiQed and wounded in
the tfiair of the 1 1 ih inst. whit.h "shall
sotfn;be followed by a particular. return,
in which i jast regard will be paid to
individual ''mVrirs; The dead rest in
honor, and the wounded bled for .their
:ouVry and deserve its gratitude.? 1 '-i
4tt of the Officers killed and wounded In
the action at Vidianfiburg; in, Upper - '
ijada ir the Ildi of. VAv'i Iblj. viz.
.' : ; : KlLLEb, ' '. 4iV-' ' , ,
lieuti VVm. Wr. Smith if 'the Light rtUWy y
Edward Oimstdloth ftegt.lnf. . - '
. - WOUNDED, v , ' ,
6 rig. Gen. Leonard Cbviiigtonj. feortalfv
(since dead) -"jr - t J . .
Major Talbot Chambers, Aisis Adj. Gen;
' slight). . rM, '-r . '
MajorrDarby Noon, Aid-de-camp .to 'ilriff
Gen, Swari vo7it, slightly; !; Si-i
Cbt James I. Preston, of thc 2JJ RegtVlnT
severely, h s iht thigh fractured. "1 t
Majqr VVm; Ciirnmings, 8 h Itegt Severely
Capt. Edmund Foster $ih do. slightly '
,; dvid S. Townsehd, dado. (taka
pris-we.- ). : ';-'''-;v;-v ' '
Mprdecai Myers, loih do. ' severjely,
' ' John CampbeJ I, do do: r lightly.
r John 13, Alurdock,25dtdi r s-Ho.
LieuU Wm. . featoa, 11th do. severely.
John Wdiiams, ' J3di do.:'7 altghtty
Jojirj Lyrics,- :i4di di severely. :
(taken prisoner) ' f
.eterPellram,?.:
' , ' (aken prisoner.) -.' ' .j,' of. " '
James U. Ui'own. , 25th do. sirghtly
. Arclid D Crary, do. . do. . sevcly
; bpFicii: ACCOUNTS. ; '
TJie following lhiportarf documents We'jJ
yeste rday receivtjd by, the ;Car of ; fleptuna
Gen. Harrlspn was' a passenger"iu the
steMm boat, having lefl hisarmy' in' 'winter
cjuarters at Sackett's 1 1 arbor. V-Gen( Arm
strong wa a passenger in the steam boat as
far as Hed Hook: ' '
' Coram: Cbatmeey, with his jRett, h avtnff
brought over Geh, Harrison's txrmvj will
is said, lay u his vessels for the waiter at ;
Sacliett's m?b ;; .;,V: V
Qffioial rCorrpandeefn$ehyiGfin f
.f .. pjm to the Secretary of .y '
tteat1.artefsfcFrcliUsV;
- iI beg lcav tp fV ou '
f journal which accompanies his lle'ttt r1 -for;
the panicularsipfi
the more strAhfeftinrranf Atittt
dents whtcH havumvena
wr.ww lis rrri wm rt m tii h lrntr ma a m . dt . .
editor baJt, iurn;aQou1 and Rdt an end to
myb -f Jlai. Gen. lwis
Jor,anyf aciiyt czertifin Ad above1 iY 1 1
e9 astne day tro03 the tprpsechtiort
pi ioe views or govejtinnr: IT bai ' -
written Maj. Genaiajnpuin pirihe
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