PUBLISHED KVIiRT THUaSDAT
trur.
T
2 -'i
a year will be entitled vbtesij ire give? power to .the
propose to extend ; the pointed'to &diourn the tletisii
officer
ion
:er an- j it expr?s a man to the influence of-bad 351
ttll the j "si and while it . preveutu' ba! iivfluenfca oVei
tfi
tgMx DojLtARs per artmitn; one hlf in advance.
Ttiose who Uo not,, cither-at the tioeof sub-J
scribin?, or subseotly; K'.ve hotc? ,
-,-.eK have the Paper discontinued it
pitattoni of their y ear,
:tk continuance uniiico
of their
the ex
presumed as, de
ounterin&nded.
Set eicreding inserted
- : 'l ', . 1 -'a
for ,ecM subsequent jpuWicaiion
inose pi
IS
greater lenRth, in the same proportion.
. t namner 01 inssniu? c w
v thrf kher.m fe:vl?4 pediency loudly c
: otfttn Jwf pVoced to tl
voting to all copyhold proper-lacst day. It shall be solarranffed thatlj?9041 Jtprevrnts j?ood imflueiK:epvejv tlue
iQeoflpayearfor Mnnbers no.yotersbli have more than fifteen miles f f i0"6'
. a alo all houlder to travel 5ate
dcrs of 21 -vears. wlndvhave distance shall be so contrived that there 1 nibns in the ace of dav. wmiM eve ieri?r to
leje of vrttii2 in Uwfis, celtin a countv. Ill the cotfntie to: which r1 'f'ejge;. I ani boniidsir; morecVer, to
rs of 2Q y ears,. where hve propose give two more TOemaefsHf:y&u
--jL -y JiU i it i ,8 ,. . w'. - T " pe yin-tne comrai)ity any -clasH of persona
forth 50 per annum, there shall be two divisions. " It w.oro-1 whM'irti., tt te k.iklio
instances it woatd be favorable to reform. I ing houses of
Vnav Sir, IS. tne case as .uow aiauus r iii a vum , we propose
The people call Joudly ! foi4 lietorra, saf- privilege of
inc whatever jo)l existed ; in.the CoQsti-ty of the va
tution' of this House whatever confidence of a county
iras nldded in It byi the people, bm- All leaseliol
nletelr cone.' : I will fsayJ that 4f such hot teen rene
rtowns as Leeds and ; Manchester are not J to have the privi
ahave tcpresenta tires,! when such places land alt leasehold
as Gatton and Old Saruni have, it is im- (the "pre per fy is v
nossible tcr saY that me representation is are to nave the-privilege ot- vounc at posea, thattn aH-tnose tdivns to be named
fairly and properly carried. 6h. . And tin-1 county elections. It will be seen. Sir, to send nretnbers to parliament; thatk the
ie3S sucn piaces.arc auovveu vo nayc iujt iiiisswieuieiii, mat we nave inoux"'- 11 iiwpci iy wuca a mao - reuuireSf to'scnanie
presentatives, the confidence which once expedient to disfranchise 1 68 seats. But him to vote for tlie town, will not enable
eilatedvbetwecn''-'thi8pBou9eWr-thosc!it is not pur intention to fill tlvem all up him likewise to vpte for thei-ountv Bo
Whom honorable- member! csi'll' their con again It is our opinion that the number lthat .where the towns have their votes for
8tttlient"is; wbolly; loi en this of members is inconveniently large-Anyj proper representatives chosen by1 them
ria-htiat is m :-favof M:;irefo&nf it'B&ml fore"thtnlonfth'lreland, at which time Icoun
aue5tionx)f reason It is In favor of reform J a hundred members were.added (whicli I es
if It e"a auestton of iexpediency-ex-1 will not say was a great eil. amb hW 1 possible With regard to the risht of the I this measure will
calls tor it. o i r, i snau ousiness was conducted betore-that tune, Jiony smiting rreenokiers, no alteration Ml""? u "e 8ris,oc,.'"'-'f ' "Ul tu;"' 8,v il537
to the clamor fhe -would not fca!l it a WnelB
cbmor) of: t he. People f'.r a reduction fthex- , "
penditure of the country ; bt.f, as rerfTed l'h r H'
TyjforrefirfrfHMi.buHy, thtnlesrtb V
ihe nejrutive whicli it possessftfl pi i Mo the Uei ' v",
tiji, thouph it Um suiTcred it to becuVtieV dead $.
letter by never m any Instance atl einpTinto e
ercise it ; ianles they, wer, prepajed to do tbt
they shoukl, still; ajro-: thrCroo to ea-qciev ?
that ipftnefceoa cdrtani ttejit which i hl 4
t il tioiea poKewThhonorabfeJ
then procejfle4 io comment on the impropriety
o UienoleJUr dr JAjtliJn tlie Hwtsn,
tftey . na wivjiet on&iience of iue(Hit ry ia
create an irresnonsible power.no'nuin cah douht-
I dqnoi thuikstiebaUott ;.ypi&feuwt3rac '
influence of different classes of society, tr,tUat
t wouiaounteract-arjstdcratic intSuence. ? 1 do
Oi-t tliittk it wmij with tire ad-;
the towff.tVlTitoi I bwa I dolibt flkel tSaiuistratiod of itfTairs.VNa aMf io iatIIoti$e
to see any irresponsible powt r . confided' ' the
naiids ot .any one mrf or of any. body of men,
. 1 knowitir, a l do. tuata'man isat bems? whose
i L li . , . .. jmicd cloude(lhra vyriety of errbrf. 'anu tr.fiii-
ty representatives, and the two class- v Asf-. J
Voters wilt be kept as distinct as p shall rn-rhana be tolttS ; ih that ;tlte eiT ctof
be todetf4v the'Vnflueoce and
BEFORV
DEBATE
IN TUK Bltl t lSH PARLIAMENT.
... ..'';Ri,l trf f v!1l fe. 11-i,a.'-w-s...-k. - . 9 ntanrM u K , ,..M, , e enmrary. a maintain um in
ij, au Ajjiauoiu - jij ii. wa uum. xi was ivcti kuuvu, wpuj ; vwiisiiicicu iiiai uiat ciass j menn that aristocracy' whlch miri"!
chirepreseniing me ivii- many memoers oDtained a seat sin swiflt. oi voters are eminently mtea to ne en- people, which knows their wantV.whi
wnlM am now about to House from iittive pnttrelr of nmbition 1 trusteri with the elective francmse. hi 1 u,e4" nfff:bor Ijoamtantv. nndfw
Houie of CommomMarch. 1,-1 8511.; ;
my subject, name
the measures whi
nisters o f the Cro
propose to the Housed . . landhe honor it conferred! 'Every one j Majesty's Government considering that
y opinion' rightly that it would not be if ihey did, it was only a manifest mcon-
nce to those who - took part in the
c Lusines3. borne memuers .nry
ulon, with tht-people. Sir,
e mmtenc'
m proved?? I
es with the
ch receives
hich mixeK
it Is not in human
i i i ii 1 ' I' . A
John Russet rose, tor-the, purpose Uufiicient to grant a passive ami insum venie
2 torwara his promisea moiion cjnt retnrm by lopping on some rew puun
lotd
of brihstin
nf Reform. I have, said he, formerly Utraff?linff branches. ; His Maiesty'slVlin- j came down to vote away the public money
brougnti this question before the Houseou haters are atistied that it n6t sufiicient j We therefore propose to make a reduction
raj own responsioimy 5 uui tue uiisuic t(Kgtopjtere, or 10 iop-ou a urancn 01 uie
1 1 now, bring forward is notmine,ybut;a
I government measure in whose name I apt
tear-r-the aeuuerata measure yi u
imous Cabinet," iii redemption of a pledge
eiv'eii br his1! Majesty to' Parliament and
to the Country.' ' It is therefore, with
franchise where direct ft&ery has been
and for the. convenience of business, to;
cut off several. That several large towns,
ty, send those members toxParliament
whom it would, be most desirable to have
With regard to the Welsh boroughs, the
only alternative that was intended: to be
made was, the adding of certain towns to
i 1 1 1 1 'i
mose uoroujms wnicn sena memDers ;o
Parliament, and the creatini; of a J;new
uiscrict 01 oorougns Dy Uiviume Swansea
nature that such an aristocracy rnvst not' have
ffreat intluenc'e intheellction of memberi dee r
ed worthy to serve their country. Such an
aTistocracy will alVavg"have such an ntflnt'oc
as every pond man will sav they . ought to hnve,;
but ifgreiiilfmen mean to say that ii'vrtll dt's'trfy
the influence uf an aristocntcv w!uch, does not
he felt assured, iCooid jret tip state,,! ha.t a,I--
bribe had oPrecent years beeiif jilvm.to any bo-. V ,
norable meraber, ti vote, for, 4 J?-"t Jiea
sure hhoiih it hi4 frmetJy been 5loean4
at o time waViheie lesi of twry i i4le - tJou8tt
pComnon lf then the. House ya gwJil J
ly b;t;o:nirrgnoriand more Iree fronvteumlue ?k,
influence the prown andlhe'Aristocracyv;ad i
SO
toe . Jeffitimaw nUuence ot tie Pspie$ a
conce led tothem tu if? rortlinary mgde, "'was ;
tWintiimaUv tricreainir. wht nece8-i'v wu them i,
orovpd : thev are convinced' that no half j now unrepresented, shall send two mem
measure will do llifey are, as convinced bers each that twenty other towns, not and Cardigan, which boroughs are onjy
that any faltering in tueif course would j represented, shad send one inemlu r cach-
be calculated not to give that which it is jTo the metropolis and parts adjacent, we
their wish to stve. stability to the throne, jnrooose tojrive eilit additional members,
preatlaoxieiy, that I venture to explain strt..grth to the Parliament, or satistac-las there Hre now nine hundred thousand
eii intentions Ito the House upon a. sup- (tion to the'countryi The; grievances of j individuals in these districts' unrepre
iecU the interest 01 . wnicn ; is Known -.DyiwnjCB the people complain Sir, are, tirst scnted. To the lower Hamlets .con-
tne ctowucju ;juicuvc (uiai,i is j;rtomjnations py inaivtauais; xinuiy, ciec-1 raining a popuiatin or uvo ninuseu anu
here, but still more ny Tne aeep anxiety itIOnS by close cornorauon and 3d I v,. the eighty thousaniJ. we propose to give two
which is felt by millions out of this House, ftYnenj- wr flections. With reirard 'to members. To the district of Hoiborn
who look withhope who look With ex- noroi nations, Sir, I admit that it may be we. intend to give two members. To
fiectationTttf the resnlt f; this day's de- exercised in one of two ways; first, where Finsbury and its district, to" give two
iberationsi-The measure ielf was firm there are but few or ho inhabitants, and members. To Lambeth and parts beyond
eu oy UK uouivv iuia uuuw w an extetisivc rtgni oi suiirage , mm nuy line waier, we giveanoiner iwo memuers.
time at the head of the government he where the place is ;arge j with a dense I By these means, we make four divisions
tommunicaieu ii to lus wiicajuts- "
rnmmunicated to me, and I have ever
since been .consulting, either severally or
for the nobltf Lord to mtrddocefc n me-ure anch
a.t tltat uhieU wa then Heforejho?IIne- ?--T
There jWerc now' two 1 infiuetieea Jin"1 exf.teci
which w.-r-f-ost sensjblv fejlDln ,tlt(itltovst-
pa mely Petit ioiudi heresa,riiJy means of iht 'I
pr.ss, t nveinVera of that Uouae were stibj-xt
e! to the conirojof t'e people ;wiUt. the'quiqk--
uess of lihfniniaicLV.ieTr conduct Was cauvas''
setl whet,everlherrnlisli lannOafre wSra knOWlw"
lit- telt confi-Vnt thaVihe measnretml KoehAnVa
live amontj the people, whicW knows nothintflbtrtof .Micces. ,Norfmanwbolknevv whae'trleaet
tlje people, ann cjres noth.njr tor the people :
which seeks rank without merit, which seeks
for places without talent, a id for pensions, v. ith-
u( services, tor such an aristocracy 1 have no
collectively, withTthe members of his Ma- secon
population, anu uie rigni; oi siiiirage very 01 iiie metropolis, anu us suourus, to each
lintitejdV ; Gatton, Sir. lunjishes an ex- of which we give two members. I am
.!. (lrlt Iffriil.' rild "I iatll r.f tttP tirA thtt urlian ihn tt,tftiU . n'l nniiiU.
UA . Lll V. .1 0 IK I. Jft" ... ... V. I IIHLII II .tftl Lll 1 1 V 1 Ull ill U"
il.. '" r.i Oatton, Sir, 1 1 believe the tilin of the parish of Marylebune is con- tlw occuptHm ot a house 10 a year, re? r.0 i? ..ipBort iii ise burmens :im tlie icrt oi
ofsuBVagei, tAt sidered, it U not be (Lught that; we
lis extenueu 10 an nousenoiuers pay iig tare going 100 iar, 11 l say that pansn isi. v"v"" "llJ ---" .f i.their gcofy.- hKh. ml 4moe tbeir pitfahe:
hrn' -jinVI In, h'tit"1 iti p'tV ' Ihe no'nul a tion fnl I v Pti t 1 1 .d tr. com! iv,,. mmhr ltead Ot torty-five, Will be returned foHkolriu. which wilt identify thetin for ihe . future.'
to!r.nnUtnn1voT fiversyn'S'to exercise I Parliament as th haroiih .nf Rornacrh-i Sctt,aD a ' I I withwthe peojdc around ihoro, to come ward
the right.1 With Bh th f case is Xto bridge, "'-therefore ppose that Ma-
lMt -thprte Jh town is larsre and the I rv phon hl pnd tw-A mMmhor: flnr to vPte snail oe extended to Ireland, as L J s o: - u... ti !i. .: ....u ..r
I i.i i i .. i l irv ocautr. atr. iiiavcyrr iiiaty uc me rcum oi
to refuin onel member to Parliament.
1 come now, Sir, to the representation
ot Scotland ; and, certaialv, it Eufflaiid
wants relornt, the sarae tluriir must be
said, but in a stronger manner, with re
ference to that eountrv. We oronole
then, that 22 counties shall return one
1 1T - . il a ?i
lottiour. e propose mat iidiuDurcn
shall send twu luemL. rs, Glasirow tvyA
and Aberdeen, Paislev. Dandoe. atvi
Leith, one member. -With the exception
of one, we do- not propose to alter the dii
tritts oUburg.is. each-to return one mem
ber. Peterhead will, however, ta'.:e the
place of Aberdeen,-and Falkirk, of Li
nark. The qualification will Sir, be
si.oiiar ro r.iifrtanu, oeing property m
sympathy. The; sooner thei1nfloence '-bt that
specif a of aristocracy is earned vwayjf w;th the
corruption in which that inftueiice has tVTiveit,
the.oeltftr forjthe country, and the' better for
every wholesome and invigovatinjr irtfloenf.e. .'
he quest um: is, whelhi-r, -without some nrg
measure of reform, -you can Cirry-on the affjirs
of the country, with the countenance anl ' with
the support of thejpeo'ple. Sir, I bfe'ieve we
cannot. It may be a qntfstion vyhethetf'we cn.
or cannot resist that particular' plan of Rtrform ;
but there is no question whatever but lhat:yoM
must eaher rcf.Tni, or.wah'thts Coiis'.itutioit7y3ii
must pf-risli. bir, I now ppea?, in my turnJ to
the aristocracy of England. My,opinior sir, of
the jfentLemen of EnUntl is, that in a e;reat cri-
sis. of the country, tney have neyerjeen found
wanting ; thai when the country was engxijed
iti a war against the natural enemy, 'they -were
almost toe foremost to come forarard ; thit.'when
barlliens were to be suppVted, t'.eyw'ereever
Inirs of Constim'ional Monarchy hadliitherio -done
for tlust ctmiivrywoMIgjre t.l$oiwenMrjr
such a mcHSurea tht whicfi the noble Tjort hd
tro3ncch ,The plan of a populri:j;pfs;'i1Uor,' v
oonSisieiit jvi'h monarctiy,"ha"d-neverucceeded.
The honraPte' llrtmel ald he wyaM conclude
hi oi!waton8 with: tterda'W.Uicfiihe llntitev.
had addressed-.to the-Throue atthe-.eornmence
ment of 'Ihe present session - Tnat we, will
.
aunij aiajesiy'areopieajiuiuy.ijippwciaw f t
th&full advantage of the happykfornf of novern V,1 VV
mem tinder, whicTj thvoujh tii;powvrof Divhm ,
Provklencei tbU country lias ctiVovedi tor a lorvj f .
succession of yt-arrya rate'rharp",.oi? Jitteriut:
pen and commerced prospertty-of' h"ue fi t
h;ri'has fallen ttf 'the Jot of any other Country bj V
tlie wbrl;L' 'lie' wdujd not-chango these adyal-v?Kt
tuires F.1 any of so., snecuUtive and specious ra
oatttre aslhi-wa hejdout hy the noble'trdJT "
air. a. j wtss pronounce uic uuiisii- l
ttfliowal atul absurJ,lt was ne;e$Sary to guard;"
oot against thtr'hrfloencesof the Crown or; the
Af Mttcrstcy, :putajramht tne inBucnce- t ine
People. Tliistoeasiire would not-Jet in any
great itieresta..!: It would promote tse ipnucnce
Mnrh cavil nas been raised upon an ex-
oression ot tne Home iora. wnoni 1 nave
alluded to, that be would endeavor
, frnme, such a measure as must satisfy the
r . .( . 'ii jl - j. ia. i 'L xi ' j.
purillC minu, Wiuioux ax uie saiue uiae en-
dangeringihe settled, institutioifs of. the nnnutation numerous, and I do not rnein next ohiectjSir. i to p'nnhti hiro-pp rnun-
F76?n?1,'. onc Party to say that the populationhak not a rightlties to senefmre representatives. I tan-
by the settled lnstitutionsortne country, to gend .tnembera- fo Parliament, and I (not think therelfwilllbe ihevleasfobie
k a. At .i a m w rnff-An : rvrvrvaif rrr oi .iTnniri . m t'? ii ai. . . ...
ai jcon to this proposition j tor this is a plan
to
ilnnrivnil ttf hr f ' l-Mrh f ? htl f hpr. thp
closd and rotten boroughs Avhich were jn- ri2llt jf suffrage ist so limited, 'that the
iow can juu jjicwiiu -o Bvn.c 4UI" voice at all. io both these evils it is
the public.mind, without endangering the eSsential that we should apply remedies
settled institutions of the country. We at tjie same itimei'each must be
With re-
oi iteiorm mat was proKseu tn the aays
of Karl Chatham, and has been advocated
ever since. Nothingxould be more fair
than.xthat: large counties, in which there
i3anE;iinmense manufacturing pbuiation,
such as Stafford shire find others, should
have additional members. We therefore
propose, in several counties to add two
members I he county of York is divi
th
casion
have so iVequently been gone over mtalent
mg I;
certai
shoull
niy tneprincipargrounnsiu ,1.; uiiA Jr,f W rio-l.t ftf
on which reformers rest their claims. Sir. 1l K w. ku.
there canVenQ4babt!the' representation
oi this Jriouse.f.as it now lexists, is not a
representation fitting-the j country at this
crisis. I need not so into the changes &
regards tlie value of property amounting
to iZlO a year ; that that shall give to evj-
ery person a right to vote who resides iji
a borough, sending members to1 Parliai
ment. 1 now come to the result of the
measure in regard to the number of memj-
bers altogether. The number now is 658;
the number to be disfranchised is 168.
Deduct the latter number from the fori-
rr A. n 1 4 rtA- .... 1 1 n t .. A Cf TOI.
tui, anu iiicic win icuiiiiii iyu. lllclt'
will then be added 5 for-Scotland, S . fo
Ireland, 1 tor Wales, 8 Tor London, 34
for the large towns, and 55 for the English
counties making in all 106. The lnfe
being added to tlie 490, will make the
number 596. . Now, take 506 from 658;
And there will remain 62; The decrease
oi the number returned to tins tiousewilil
consequently be 62. I will not state, i-t
is only a rough guess, tne number of peirr
sons who 1 imagine will be entitled to
vote by this bill for the different boroughsl
iowns, anu counties, l guppose that, roj
the towns at present represented, therb
will be about 110,000 ; for the new towns
50,000 : for Loudon 95,000 ; for Scotf
land 60,000: and Ireland. nerhansL40.00Q.
in counties,. I imagine that 100; 000 at
least will be entitled to vote under thiis
UMI 1 1.1.1 1 . :
Prs to Parlia. rmnllpd in mrl.o i;aV oil tUa ull' wno nevcj nan me aavantage ot yd-
TK;e ai. i.ttAi.lwl diafranr.UiaA fin IMmrSn hrtuao f in nnnA "nS ueiore : ana, upon tne wnoie, Jlical
i . -.-tr . T I.-. :.i J i m. , .. . . , -. A Clllate t :lmt ; th nnmhpr vvh?rh wi h adfl.
st we .cio inoifsiop nere ; we iney win oe oDiigea to maKe a return oti ,i V, .
boroughs udpr,4uuu innamtants, these to an otti
will hear all ob
VVhen this is gon
are t the reverse opinion ; oecause in at- yealt within a different way
P?Pllc, T1?11? !s gard to those boroughs which are utterly Jded into" three ridings and sends ifour
j ua"M,J r.'. "i 7 r i b Uecavcd, in wnich there are ne inuivia- i .embers. Ve intend to give two mem
ttiuger uie sruicu uum uuua yi,u.c uals to exerciSe the traochise, it would
try. ,Wre wisb to place ourselves between hft a fjll.p irt tat(, awjl v , the risJlt wh:ch
the two hostile parties : neither agreeing w xrrWo hir .nf individual, in
i .
, thel hundred j the
bers tothe other riding, making in
whole six; !
. I iiowSir, proceed to an other '.part of
my measure, u is to prevent the :great
only remedy that can be applied in Cases (expense at elections . where tlie poll is
ot mis Kina, is to aeprivepsucmpiaces oi protracted, w.e propose the taking ot
Ithe rifrhtot nomination altogether. I amithemoll m rtirtprjTit narta of th rmmtv.
olc" perjectly awarethat in making this pro-and thatjall ylectors, either for counties
waf( M W I' wlv'i'w I v tl II AICI OliUU UV I a 11V- I U it"
reform Is necessary, nor agreeing wth the
lanaticism ot -others, tnatl only 6ome par
ticular: kind of reform can by any means
be satisfactory to the people, or wh
some : but-placing ourselves between
two, anataKing wnat i nopio uea ciUed measure. We have decided to make chinery of this plan will bi very simple
arid steadfast ground between uiabusenjj a uMic reraedy . founded on the at the same time very necessary, in order
we wish to ameiid, and the rrvemons popuIiltin retbrn of 181 ; and we pro- to obtain the names of voters. At a cer
wmcn we nope to avert, - ggh i pose that' every borough which was under (tain period of the yearthe churchwar-
-. It ia tint npcpas!irr rnrr.Tinl V On tnistio 1 LWk 1 . . .1 n i t I i - .-.,' ......
. i T J : ;"T. rr T " - v; V auuu innaouanis in 4oai,,snau lose me dens ana overseers ot the parish will be
"t4V --Tr privilege of. sendinffmembe
rr mnro Ihnn iinni"vpmhpr.. VV t. Iikt
wise propose that Weymouth, which now
sends four members to this house, shall
send but two. The porotighs totally dis
francKiaed, wilt be those! wno now send
ihii. ill nip ffmeririioiW'iT ix rim Ammnnit' I
. j. i i ( v... wiw u v. j i i.. 1.M il v ill i. j iv. . i iiiiia.fii.-i . i
cer xo oe appointeci wno ;.. c n f,. , . . :t i
jections and adtude , ir " u ,.rllr"e,u' w. ciaimy e
Thmoo-h rh ifl,,a" w persons, ue u CT.erveq, a
w v..,yfc-, ww. v.v. ov . . .,v . , ?i.. .J li
ui i ne conn i j
try peace. air, whatever may
tljesex propositions, Uow'.vrr theym .y'be metbj;
t f louse, 'he King's Ministers wiil find, that
thev have d"ne their duty, i hey have hitherto
proceeiled in a Straight forward course! ne'ichjer-
look'uii; Jbr th? support one particular cla'ss, nor
t'eariiig the disanprobHtion and the frown.of-an-'
ftWer. 'lltev U'uk of Uefortyi, that it is the i)ri
;y measure that is calcu.a'ea to insure.-perma
nency to those institutions "which ':; have so 4ong
been the adaTLii-.ttian ot loroin parts, on accotint
i;f ihrir popular spirtjij but. whicfc cannot exist
much looker, unless by an infusion of due po
pular spirit, you show that yon are determined
not la be the representatives of small classesj "o
piitiC'Ular interests hut that you will 5Rrm a
b6i;y, wpich representing' ,the people, winch
snrineinjr from the people, which havinjr a
pathv with the ,peopier can tairlv casl upon the
people to support any future burthens, aud to
struggle with any; tjiture utrhcoJties hey may
hnve to encounter, confident that those who
seek it are united Jieatt and iandwmthem?
selves,; and they look, onlv, bite lh?mseves to
the glory, and welfare ot toglai.d.isMi; and
t htig co.merf cheering) . ,
Sir J. Se'mU !ecjntled the;,iotion.
S,r ft, In-lis said, the noble Lord hd told
them lhat thi was the - first ti e that such -i
measore had emanated froin the Government-
It certainly was the first time that a member,
ii : Minister, but who nevertheless, shone with
the rt fleeted light of the Administration, came
down to stigmatise that House as not represent-
inr the people. This was the first time that
suclv a charge, accorftparwed by such a threat,
iias ever been made tn rarliamenti'sby any indi
v'idual, whether, in or out of office. " The lnoble
Lord had told them that tve'was supported by
the people, but tie wbtild; deny the fMCtjjhaVtbe
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of shopkeepers1 and country atorueys."'4.JTh, ' p
teader of the' c'ountry J Club Would iwvy Je' ibe .
mrfn of4mportrtce in lHsdiric,,amlJblsnnterir ' '
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eits and influence, -would.be -represented ioiead
of; those important .interests nove let to., Tte r
plan would not save expensed at eleCWn4r antl.
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u woaifl not; satisty toe roicms, .wuji-e, or riotr -irono?6n
of the great interests of lb ctruntr f
4t would do nothiiiiT. 'I s iC . ' i 1 , ft;
I T& ChaMett&ef lbe Exchetpter agreed with ,
the. hon and learned gentleroan'that T?at mj
ery accompanied revolution- anu ue inougni it v .
s wourd remove all t:aus fordiscontent. Tlre - V ;
iT-rouftds of comnlaint were these; the nomtna
iron boroughs, and the grkjA ejrpcuse - of elev ,
ceea in convincing uic f gupie nut ii was a dfh'
honorable and learned gentUffnao trad observed
that it was by mean of aomiiiatitin bproglj-.
that men of ability fust obtained seats in Vuriia-Y
mentAWiTIe4 admivted.'1 that ia: a cer fain extent.
they were adyautaeoui y but he con tended that iit, 1
the disadvantages' ot-thil system --far 'ftounterbal 5 A i-t H
ancect the advantages. lift- systent Ot nomiita-v'1;
tion bovpug-as putyt in ine, power" .ot persona ot
lare property .to dictateto thej Ministers of lhe; t
dy. This dictation was such as jflust constant
ly inirfer with the' good pemment4 of thft
country. .This Was-n evil wnich an Jifs ; opid U
.ion, mpre tliao coitnlerbalanctd the advantages I,
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unc j&j.vow iiwi) tiiciiouuTaue, auaieanieu. .
gentleman hail so much praised.' .' :Thc , People
of this country. ttlKRii'h' Annrovmi!''v:ijl'':a '-nitf "iff
monarchy, ibfected td tht system of representai f-r
tion awrtiesi prevailed; 4?erceLvint that lhat -W4& 4 u
the feeHiig of the -middle clas-.es,arid ieeliujjVf i.
donfiient that thy Jud uo wish foy a change; io ,4 r
tlie form of coernrnent or anydesire for a rev-':; :
ro!ution,1iiil3jcsty'a Iinisters lttid'r thoughr it Jr
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U'mjt, fo-weulil ptace.lhe!leUo9'vf meitw'l ' 'J;
bers for the House, of Commons in'the hands 'vt 1 ' ir T.
the middle classes. t- It was his opinion, tftatiT:J'1? " Ii '1
the middle classes of this orrrany other coutotrV. H
people of this1 country Hid demand; reform The 1 we hostde to the torm of-g vernmei.t iiIer rf
s usedfc the same : wlllc" 11 nveo, wuaicvr ine sTaie o rep re j - r.
re-
n i : 1:., ...:n .p-micucn mm uie property
uvi,cuiuci in cci v Ycni, Liiciiai. will uc 1 i r, , . . , . - , i j
7- viayiiailftiHiil 111 luttuocil ESa Vxii
alteration' whicli liaveitakenCpla'ciii'the
representation or iattetsyears.syat as sujr
fieieht .for me to say, thatts'not
representation. And I havenQhesiitwni XvLt Jlur.f , r -ifio
T ii' il i A C 'H 1.-' ' 'V' "1.1 kt'-i I 1 ' 11 , '-J VVl IO, VfcMI vi 1 lUUj
W uiaJ which we intend. U !altef. We dohot
urc. uuu aa u ai preis can 5nendrto. aIter the Vemaming boroughs,
published, and every. person 'whose name
is on the list will have a right to vote,
without being asked any other question
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same argument had been alway
s.sertion sdwavsinsde, when hieasures ot
brm wcr& brought forward. F.In mahy" periods I
or our nisiorj, appucatious nau ueeq, iniue ior
,,u. c.i.i. : t - . ,.i 1 i s 1 rerorm t peHiions nau oeen nirwaruea wiui mai
uable stake m the countrv. interested int , .s. n..- v
; I think, if tJie reformers1,of an
cient days were now: in existence, and
were to see that a green inouiidj or a bro-
cu waii, scot io members to.irariiament,
they1, would be greatly asnished JKey
woald ,be still more astonished, were they
h go intovthe northern pajt of this coun
try, and see flourishing , towns containing
inimense .manufactories and; depositories
of every sort dC"me reliant tlise, anil learn
toat these plates ient hoi representatives
to Parliament. --But I will not sto here ;
they woultf be; still, more asbnishcil, were
ity taken to a reat and'iorjuleti tU3wh
I majr mention itsnameIl.
C told til it-f 4 Ar man no 1. Ilr ivhliTi n-irr
era! elections Vere theeVcoridu6ter; w,l
119 members ; 47 will be deprived of jlhan what is necessary to prove his ideri
7 f sending 'more than pne f member each : tity. This list will be accessible to all. 1
.1166 meinbers with, jl again repeat, two think this regulation will save much ex
pense and time in deciding on disputed
votes. Another evil we propose to re
medy is to shorten the duration of polls.
We therefore intend that booths shall be
preset v ing tlie property of the country, not, perhaps, so numerously signed as ontlie
anjd upon. whom will depend any. future present occasion y atill they were siiftcienHy
Struggle'this conn try may have to sustam numerous to induce able :and MurltfeVwitm?
io suppoH this Ilotise, to support Parlia- erapioy strong lunguaffe, which tbey employ
j?a , ,, rr . ? ed acconlragly.' The source ..f the excitement
ment, and to support the throne in carry- it waseasy to trace. It whs derived tOomtth
jngthe struggle, tu a successful termination, revolutions of France and Behn-'m 'Whenever
but we intend to alter the elective fran
chise. Some of them how are in the erected in different parts of tlie country,
hands of select corporations )fsomeof which will materially lower the expense,
them are irFtlie nomination bflndiViduals. We consider the machinery of our plan
This we intend' to; provide: against, -.and
to give the franchiset to personsf possess
vngiiterest anclf properfyj irilthoseibo-
rou ol. Wp nrnnoiip. Si r that the elec
five franchise should be4 extended to all
so simple,, that in all towns the polls-may
be taken in one day. . But, consntei
the disturbance thatxlsts during; con
tested elections, we propose to extend it
to two days, or, if necessary, to four.
With respect io the duration of Parliament.H
leave it to be -brought in by some other member,
or t a future time by Ministers, for future cdn
sideration. For my own part, I can only say.
that f think it 'rao&t desirable that constituents
should have a proper,contibl over their repfe
scritatives I yet think that it would be inexpe
dient to make the duration" of Parliament so short
that iHCRvberaof thisHose should be in a state
of pei petu.d canvass with the opinions-of their
Constituents, and therefore unable to advise. de
liberate, and decide upon. .the. great questions5
u.liy-"'-. r. - , j -y -- -- . - wiiicti iTogiu oe orougm oeiortttuem, witn ti.at
those-who pay reit of l0 : per annum, hvery one knows the enormous expense freedom which should prevaif in the Legiskttirc
wueuiermey occupy. sucupieiuisesor at present, incurreu 01 onuguig up voters 1 01 mis great, tnpirc; ynn.inaf connoencc-wmcri
otherwise-This plan will be carried in-lt.t the poll. In Yorkshire, for instance, generous people of "great country, ought
to e rlect under certain conditions to" be jit could not be done tor a
..vimin i jtyuiiiciflic t h Vnvm n"u Jiviu uunuivu . 1 nn ttlNtiTPl' IS m-irlMn till! rtill llljj io i rlit
to dejirive'tie!present Resident, electors (fifty thousand;-pounds. In Devonshire, tion wVh has obtalued of late.many sdvociu-s
. jof their fight to?tyote but Experience has jwjiere tlie voters' were'obhged-to be -con-land much "general supportImean the question
-1 h'ffi JjjVb 5 eqaall enurmouaji Tlies'eieiMiises SS,
: hy to the greatest exteht -He wauids-ce raabestand manifold evils, thatrwe are it was intended iirdway , , He tliere m W of the ballot, have never Wlenv.HlcrJmv
? I tuvn paid openlv DaidferHheirvbtei "rrminedvthey ,i hall Ino 3 longer ; retain foie proposed,, that tb&poll .shall be taken eycs,nd r hope .thi fiousewnr puse before
: Vlahe wouhlh(aX;U,l l'f vH thtfir yote&l'SoaieivotcIrs will come tin- in different hundreds arid 'hr differentia sanction the molioo bfjhe hononibre member
r VWe rertS places in such .hundreds," at ' Conyenieri
: Jwons of legislation Sir ifthenues one-. ofthe .elwj1 franchise during hi. thinkthewhoIemight.be takep 1114 one cockntio'ns voter?, ft, "p the aher hand: P
7 Wgoe of right; or ofrcaVori, lrfWhpfei J havesaitf thatjUUtpse;ocB,upiday 5 - bat-if-My dispute Tarise about Jfofdi ccr.rto mv;h:nt4andmwh-c:ip ;
the Continent was shaken i by convulsjon, ,tne
same, Viisease. communicated rapidly; fo ittnAi&
land, where popular tumults broke oat sinmlta.
neously. " Hid the call for fefotm at present
been much rmare lotid tfnd general .thaiv be be
lieved it to be, still her v.Tiald re-Vist1 the propo
sal t meeting' ft uy sucn a measure asiAU prtr
ten a measure sa replete witlfchape, x as to
subrert every pi-mciple;; of conSlitotidnat i Ifatjtu-
tttce, to place all power m the hands oi toe peo-
pie aixi leave noimnjr ot tne presenT monarcny
of Kr.tr land but the shado w ttiVh ame A ;The
'onorable Buroiiet then descaitted at length -o
ttie pr:iTcipl& on which meters .were elected;
and doubted, whether t-any period ot-history
)UuiiiuM uaq otren HK.(.'u as uic uwis. in carij
times this principle waa clearly recognisoJ that
mileas-ihe place happeued to be a borough, orf
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a raarKei lown. vtt j.ever was cot.siof-rea,vwuaf-cvuf
tl.eamotmt oi" its population.: rtext.ob
se'rvea," that towns not ; represented jRere: atioti-
risUmg as those winch 'Were-represented that
M'Tot)iee system had fever en followed rin this
cuntry ihathad it not beeafor borotiglii, itt,
I-' oxV liurke. anoT i.ht 6f.-oUier gemases would
aentaii(Hy might be, that governinetJtSwoul'it tt:
verBesa'e. He conf .Med himnelf'bnc oftltoe "
popolar theorists; who iboujjhi that the ; U lusej 5.'
of C 'mmons Ought JO be tlie genuine reproen-' is,
tatioa of Jbe People.' That.vraa-JiheCoiut ittr L. .
tion of the, country.' Honorable gentlemen m at
gojacK'ami. nno.. penoos in oaroarous tmies,
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when outritges wenrcoirwmited bv tb Orowti- -h VI
against privilege oT thatlHouSc,-yetlt Wl aW1
ways beenheUIto.pe coastitulioal fiocUr,V Ja - V 1)1
that toe House of Coiumgiia ougli tobe the rep 'j j i 1
rejwrltation pf.the I'eople.V'Hetho'ught tfiat thJ 4 ,i V
pfesent'J'proposi'ion Votild "have ihe'eSect'bi J? ' , f
EyinrtotBe' Peonle1 that' inttuencts -vV ItheJ - .
wished io,give Uiehitne: ws of- upioion ibaf-vA' '-'
uic n'uc? visKvnjiuvin aoyuiu ucunacr jiic Jtl ? - ; ' ..
teiceriot'4lie,KiiMocrad;.' VitW Cova
bat under lfit 'oftheetvbwly'ofullujeot T '
aiidf resectafle cla4ic-M6f - tins "ijbiirarv -the 1
targe'tnajority ot ,:ie. topkr cottiitij AioJer . lUit
distiftctrbn; -no . . VV'; '
-yurara woarcTvopposctt ie measure, ana atnuo
''JuBiiraut amidst 4 oijd ieabf! adjouro;.i ?
but -MutilfVfftY tegned id,akk;"belor-adjouTi. 1:
mgi wjie,itef inenoDie: wtsi ienuta to tnsfi:
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try-- tisaii in e inuuepce r he g row n ne ver was
test tin. iv Sii nfasnr In tutv. It tnitf ht be &aid n
Cfewe the ypiep pJiuf acoj loi la loua; ,
ttvw'ft'as tbepreanv.ive.'wrVat'X!-i,-! -
X.oTd'JC iMeWpl?ed1r(thea i; j
the :iauivWaitake'SetatfHcexpiti
expitati(Hv.'i 1
of the live of the. tours iio w liviuj -vUv! vv; '-f ' ;
The order ot tuc dy lot- resuming -the adjour- '""t .
nedfdebate 1 having" ; Vcfetif cad,'' J(uetr ' j
Sitid. t h it' the 1 mventlhilajure- r la.!rd oCl v ta'. j 5 . i
have ud existence arall-o-tattt;g the casevoT
E-wortlwOo hese- pointa',lj tlo teogttt.
agtaii4 and WatV'Tiaosnvvf theItouse'
wis bimeda'thietprvpoeiraUeitvwsh
hhoul I successive Iy moy to.1thfr'iftioduc"VH)n
aDu 10 reiorro uie ctKcurtpreseniaitoov! aia "
the refusal toreturit a certain; member fof Tam-f antVrdspr4hai of Ireland. Tfjee'tUrcft jbliU'
.wmdd't6M'ui ihcwhote ot ih tuaaaaxs WLicb
1 He did not blanae t!te tiqvcmmeaJ; for ytcliiinj , ituisijya paposed to adau
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