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moment the effects of the system we are aWout
to introduce. Take Wilmiwgton. as an example
for ill&svralibn, tier population iseqtuhto more
than a third of the aggregate number in. New.
Hanover, she pays more than !ilf the reveimv
whfelt wilt nt.tle that county. to' a Senator, and
we are about to deprive her iotelligent'and pa
triotifc ttitnofhfrpriyjlegif4be el'her,
heard or felt in UrLegWative Hlki!rlt U use
Jest to tell me,ht ptyinjf nftre-tho half he
ta A'he:'hHijM!rtkwhXi Ue Senate
t f;tHe f oiir ; hu mired; fruleM f i hit ton nt y ,
jabt more thanfifiyYate -to be found a morig tr, e
y juxpagtr of ilmhgtoniierever the inter?
;jL it the town aduunly come inC(41isUn,
it irq''t? hUtleorecast,ito pirceive,? that the
,4 liutere.ttuero'wiiiliiioWolr-he) unrepre-
?'. ftvtl but. mi r presented. -Kb,' ir, neither
VlroSnKtoil,lewb'rn7Fivetevi2leJor Edehton
wilf 6 bd rir 'mtet;iV protected in either branch
if "He ha dcairt-d to sf e county refsentat ion
?bolibed, and the number of nienTedncetl. riot
;tmplf Us change the hetin of power,-or be-
Miae?.the frg islariyef budy . wartbvtbb oik
-jneruslbAJt underlie Vpe that,, the alteration
wf eotityJinejt,f would4 destroy ; the imaginary
.boudrywbicb separated the interest of the
East and the V est, and thHt by enlarging the
rang? mnseiecium in tlie creation. ot districts,
greater intelfigence gml liberalitt would charac
tertsl'our, WgiUitUm4Ifmppointed in this
i5ti;un wcuui regreimore inaniumseit
the trnfer of barren aceptre.
V UmUMsioiv he rtinarked thi
rren aeptre f- , :
remarked that they had aa.
redhris pnb lie grievancea.
!el (err to
at ml '.life a h i . I.. . 'it i. .. .Jm
At?.Stitrl.;
2 ,UT repFcciwauve t iy werement
: Wiere correct yrhi i yras evilr not to tlest roy
1bt af hicfc wai geod i to act upon eolirged prin
ei&Iet.f liberality, not to thak uir.unon the
5Te J3 iieii-iess.,: S
Uiajhn frromv consideration the piiple of
nilrttirir.til ll - i J . i .
Y na Kica, ooea any one t J.eve tnai
five thousand vote would have been given for
me can oi i tnis Convention No, sr, not one
houaand .Thi$ . was jlie KPMt -object, nd if
they did hot command ua to atrip the biaot of
, Ins coif I ad?Strike ftie torch ffojp the hnl- of
perseutoh, thev did not at J!et
not at-Ieast expect ua to
Inch duru.g h.lfa cento-
itest lustre to our Public j
"extinenbh the lights
ty hie f hren the greatest
' toy ttaaxcii, did notx cons"der?the present
lri question w important as it had beea represent
. ed by the .Ktrttteman who had just taken hia
aeatf and vthers. lle ""'tboughf oneof the most
i iRtptfrarobjects tobe accomplished, a to
. ie itie the ejuettion of representation of the two
Housti, )n lespect, to theSicctional interests
r- eornplfirted of Hinder, the present system, he
. believed de evil isTiot owinir to : any defect
f io the original -formation of tlie Government,
- but had i isVn by degrees, to be an .odious fea
ture in it-v We have come here (said Gov. B.)
to lay a new foumlatioH for the Goverument, on
federal numbers and taxation, and he Iroped Ve
ahotild hK no time in fTectingit: Hcwaain
favor fpi the motion! fgr abolihing Bcrouj;h re
' presentation, as incomisteot with the baaia pio-
Judge Sfawtll a aid, he id Trot intend to
: have nc a' rem rk on this Mibject. -His mind
had been in doubt as .to which side of the quea-
tion he should take 4 and when a motion was
yestertuty made fcr the Committee to rise, he
was glad to hear it, as he, wanted time fur fur
ther consideration oh the; subject, tie had at
tentively listened o the remarks already made.
He was. sorry he Could not' hear the remarks of
. sthe. gentleman from Halifax, (Judge ante!..)
3He,spoke in a low tone of voice, and was at
, : aon.e distance from him. He should lurve o
tote on the auhject, and he wished to offer tire
reasons wiuiii wouiainnuence nis voie. ne
- tsr;nntit;uTomtvolmgut. 'kpril on the
jpietiih; Convention I'Vlbr " no Convention,'
froin scruples a td his right to do so. Hd he
voted, it would have been in the ntgattve
' from (Use conviction that the period was an in
auspicious one for, holding a . Convention ; but
a majotity of those who voted on, the subject,
v haying (Wcided in rvrof a convention, and aa
our Government can iret alone in no other way,
lhan the voice of majority, hecwas in favor
ofactngon the subject agreeably to the di
rection of the Act of Assembly, "
" Judge S. said, no gentleman who, had spo
ken on ihe subject, had met his viewa so nearly
as the gentleman from Halifax, (Judge Daniel)
so faraai he heard him. 'The Judge smd he
was ieithcr n Kastern man jiora Western man,
and he whiied to .God that every man in that
tConvetition could nike a like declaration, lie
did not : k now whet her . te propofed amend
ments to' the Constitution would benefit the
Kst wtUe Wtw He shcAikl ct from princ'i
plr, and he wished alwayito do 50.
Nothing has yet been dermined in relatiqn
toltfrming the Senate and House of Currnvms.
The proposition t present before, the Commit
tee, had relation to the Borouch members. It
U as id they are rtecessanri to look after Com
merce iri. the fieneraAssemi . This was doubt.
less rigfit, Vhrn the Constitution of this State
was (irstorrned ; but after the? Congress of the
United States dttei mined to tke commercial
matters into its own hands there was nothing
left lorjhifc State to do in relation to Commerce,
except to paits inspection laws. -
Oneiroiier areure.ent inJavorof the abroga
tion of Boroughs, wa that the Representatives of
the counties contaiinethese towns, were them
selves of .opinion that itshould be done. , Tliey
were acquainted with the laconvenjences pro
dnced b this .Kvstem. Thev have witnessed
the hostility existing between town .and coun
trv, and the unc.omtortsble feeling produced
bv this Mate of things.'; It is said, however, if
We aboliait Iktjrough representation, our men of
tlen, who reside in towns, ui l be excluded
: Irom Ibdls . of Xegisiition aa effectually as
if tliey ; tyere inhibitel from appearing there
S ir he thought tb a would be tne eflcct, it woubl
!, jiujit j nu iiini id uc lur rcianniig
the svstem. liut when the towm become com
po iein parts of the, counties w hen these dis-
.il,4 1. .. A. A.L. . 1 1 t
. y u resis critc io xisi' uicn inese ioot-
.i.h-jeah ities . wilt 'vanish, and. the strongest
menwi; be chosen as being best qualifjed to
serif the public. jVe; will not lose, these liv
ing light ho surround us, who have etna
Itatd tu spl?ndor frim the ashes of tbose whose
rn? mory he revered as much as ny individual
in;)Jbihuse. He should vote for the amend -fnet
ofTerd by the gentleman Irom Onktrge,
ainl, against, that, submitted, by ther gentleman
pm-Itichmond.
y. ;r. Mown said, he wnuM go hand in . hand
''. vUf thcgetitlentaii from Buncombe as rgarded
KdCMiion; but he differed with him in his no
lion abotil Internal Improvement. He doubted
'Hbe;capacity of North Carolina to become a great
&otnmrci) S&te. She had no pood lrt, and
the toer part of it was too tckty. For the
aMine reasons New-Orleaua Could never rival N
Vrk. ltut we could diffuse the blessings of
Krfucution and become vittuoftsif not a great
peppie. He expressed a wish that the Uuiver-
'" Of the Stut. uc liuilrll it Mfileiilh. for he
rtiu not Ivehtve in rhat kind of Education which
was obtained n cloisteta. - The manhera of bojs
should be aitendfd io m well as their minds.
We referted otl;e Civ of-Wdlianiburcr in Vir-
giniir, which wassaid to have been the rnost pol-
islw d i America, and whose College had Inrtted
out more ci lebrted merMhan any olifer Iabtiiui
tu.H Within his trnnwl-.i- . , v
iu was opposed, he ud, toe amendment, had anyseparate and disttnctlnterest requiring
it the people had not j irtue enough to select to bererlfesento l. There wasa cogent reason
their most talented men, this provision would wb 'they hbnfefiiot.l -i Who had not witnessed
J '",urf rt. Before the Kevolution, our teg- the excitement caused by these borough Etec
UUve HIU were graced whh diatingsu-hkd tiot? Who had not seen the worst pasaions of
tnert as wllfwm'CAuntiesB tbw&sV Ite instan.
Ced GoyX:asweU froni the small, tbuntybf tV$
Jioir.M !io he said, wa certainlr one ot the mont
mui .nn(Mv t in m Mr una or ny Olll
erj;onntrJ , . -r' -
M r. Docbery xaidv that g reeahle to the Rules
fote f oTertHnent of deliberative' Kodiea, he
bada right to tnodify hi ame&dnlent now under
discussion. - The rnotion Tof therntfeman from
Orane(Dp Smith) hd for ita object to deino
hh - BoKuKh jrpreFenratiorrJ akojrether. His
ftmendincH except ed the towrta of Newberri,
Y ihjiinftfon; anrf;Fayetteril4e ttenow moved
a modiflcatmn of tlint, nvotioh w a to.excludein
ComputinK ihe federal population of a einy,
contttinihg a HnrtHti entitled to representation,
tht.cJiHtenf;ef suck 'llunHtgh, '
ill MA11 111',, Ki.l I iL'. . . . . M. '
tfOte to ab rrgte Uoroiigh representation alto. '
Aether r but he confesaed the , disruvSi0n vliich J
TtUrl UlraW K..V... ....it;..U.I... .!... .1. I
termination dial he now feltdisposed i possible,
tw admit thrrn? at least in pH, to the right'lle
mored that the Committee rise and report the
Resolution And amendment to the Convention;
and that a select Committee be raised on the
subject.- ' Jr-f .v'": " -
Mi; TJrWiamst :f Pitt; insied upon some test
qneRtionbeinfr ptpented 10 the Committee.
No doubt, jrrntieRien hd nmde tip tlieir minds,
j. fxy
i nV
ana were reuriy to act cten-nniveiy. w ny pro-;
cratifafe matter f i inhere waK as he bellev.
a decided marjority in favor bf aholishtnp the
iMtgh s ai f rriy le t it he nrode to appear. If
Uf wanotihen U could be reierred to a
Dr, Smith, of Ontnpe, ssir rjo advantage to
accrue from a reference' ton sub-committee after
the elaborate difcuCon sduch tlie oncstion had
urmrinoiic. i ie Yiroiiiu me oBiiercourse wouia
j uu loW.. i...i..i:. t . . i. . ...
.t. i
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v rmintrrk
country' w, here these Boroughs were situated,
haaiullv expressed thetr views and some decis
ion was had. IF his amendment were rejected
some less exeeptiboable proposition might then
perhaps be offered Nothincr was to be ifnined
I bv hnrrvinc mof lrt. lift slinnlrt nrffr I h f.nm.
m;tte.et repnrt profress antt a?fc ieave to
;n and xh. - for thr nnvent;on
t!tke , sorne rtlber point for conrdeW.on.
It was an erroneoiis irleas, that the business should
be taken up in legislative order, and that a de
viation from this course would produee cHnfu
sion. In the Sbnyentipn w.hich adopted the
Constitution of the United Spates, this legislative
order was Jiot observed. J
' Mr. iY.er thought with the gentleman last up,
that nothing was to be guined by pressing m.t
ters. The mere work of determining upon
amendments was the smallest nart of the busi-
ness; but deliberation was necessary tcf enable
tiiem to say wuat was best to be done. When
that waa ascertained, the method of doine it
' would easily preseht itself. For himself, he
thoueht the subject had hot been discussed suf-
elently. He had heard 'many things,' which if
not altogether new to him, had yet been present
ed in so imposing point of view as to make a
strong itnpression on his mind.
Mr. F. sad his sittiation was a peculiar one.
The county from which he came .( Rowan" con
tained one of these Boroughs. He lived in a
town entitled under the present Constitution to
send a member,. and he had frequently had the
honor to represent it in the Councils of the State.
For these reasons, he felt bound briefly to s'jite
the principles which would influence his vote on
the nrODosition now under discussion.
t He would not go iack to the origin of Dorough
representation; for this there was no necessity.
fAlI admitted that it was a scion of the English
viiinnu I a 9 V4I Vt'TIMlUHUII I tix
material question for ua to consider is Shall
we abandon it wholly or in part ? If in part,
then what part ? No matter how it originated
whether it had its birth inthe bold strife of lib
.etty, or sprung from a spirit of traffic we find
it here. He would say o the Committee very
candidly, that he came to this city, with his
mind almost made up o abolish the system en
t'rrelyl With equal candor' he now confessed his
mind was undergoing a change. No one, he
hoped, came here with his opinions so firmly fix
edas to be de-f to conviction. )
Ie would in a, brief manner examine the prin.
cipal arguments which had been advanced in
this discussronf by gentlemen opposed to the
abrogation of the Borough system. v It was urg
ed with great zeal J hat the Boroughs had inva
riablv furnished the highest order of intellect in
our General Assembly, and the conclusion must;
be, that if the representation from the towns
cease, these distinguished gentlemen will be
banished from our Councils.. The inference he
thought an erroneous one. vile did not deny
the fact that the Boroughs had been ably repre
sented, and cheerfully acceded. eveiy thing
in their praise which had hi en stated by the
gentleman from Buncombe tbut he thought that
abolishing the system, instead ' of quenching
V these shining li&h's, would diffuse their brillian
cy oyer a wider space and enlarge the sphere of
their usefulnesa. - -. .
It had been said that there was always a jeal.
ousy; existing between the Borough towns and
the counties in Which thy are respectively situ
ate! wh'Ch would prevent the selection of town
gentlemen, as Representatives for the county,
however capable..-; He feared the admitted jea
lousy h-id its origin in 'Borough Representation.
Take aw-.y the Caus and the effect would
cease. Now the citizens of the towns keep
theirfeyes .upon tlst Horiiph Up'resentatives
alonef but takeaway the right of representation,
and they will hegin.to extend their vision they
will take greater pains io enlighten the people.
r than they how 'dbj being dependant upon them
for elevation, instead bf a few citizens of the
town.:
vThe next argiiment advanced, he considered,
had great force in i', f nd was the only legitimate
one which had; been adduced. It was this f
Tbatjthese towns; hating a separate and distinct
interest from the; country, call it Commerce, or
whitjou will, ought o be hentd in sthe Legis
lature. 'F.very interest he thought ought to he
represented. He dd not siy with the, gentle
man from Craven (Mr. Gaston) that the object
of Government was to protect the weak against
the strong. V This might beSjfoid with more pro
priety to be the prownce of the Law. T he ob
iect of Government might more properly be de
fined tof 'protect i the weaker -interesis against
the stronger interests. In all Governments
there are diversified interests, and; there can be
no security qrhite these interests remain' unrep
resented. This' is the -very principle of Repub
lican :Governmens. jf thire be then this sepa
rate interest, he could; not hesitate tossy, how
ever jMnall it might be, or wherever located, that j
it should be represehtetl that it should be heard
and felt m tloperattbns of the Government-f-1
he true question then is--l thefe this separate
and distinct interest ? He hoped to hear the
question fully dUicwsse , :lf -S
Het did not think that tjie' intelligence of a
coioromv'y should eigh aaythingj tih arrang
ing the fiindtmehtat lawW (he land, in favor f
extending the rght of Representation, 'when i-p-
ped by gret principles. iLjthis constitutea a
le'pitimate claini. fwhv not csrrV outthe' rule and
divide counties by separating the enrightened
f from tlVeijmorani tiortion civine a. Renresenta.
tiye tatlie foitner Mod drsnehisjng the latter m
tm-Pil iltj-rJ 'ilifij-J
pllrt Crfidufi fearfcedthafhe efltne here de- ;
w......iu v mr jrnrrai principles, flna in- j
fluenced hy that detftmination had Intended tnl
mir, nature brought into active' exercise bV them?
1 Vlntt 0 HVn.niW nrM;fi ia . ,1f,.,M.
no lias not neam tnat corruption ot ine rjasest
' . . .
ful content He kneW thesethinesatd howthe
whole ystem wotkedffJ Every tohi is known a
sre fn. tailing and necessities. Ilia weak SMie tfl
sotighx out, that he May be Miocessfuily. ap
proached. Sir, (to the Chair) you know all the
things. " Have you" not witnessed1 at theelf'e
tiona in yetrt ronglii , scenes of the - nioatvio-
lent c'ar.icter, 'Which not unfrequently terminal
-ted : in bloodshed. Have! S'oti not seen' mew
pressed for their debt's inorderto drive them
to pursue a. course in direct opposition to'theii
convictions of rght ? f llave yoit hot, ' sir, likt;
mvReW. aeen tne tiee'tve rranClme abnstfX m
every variety lf form t The asierti6n of the eel
ebrated Iiritish Minister, Wafpole, that every
matv has tiis prce, eems to ne the governipg
spring ot action in these; Borough contests noij
.always innvney, rirj No, no, the cri"nsid-r.ati6n4
are various. I havejseeo in these contesf him
ily. arrayed asrai nst family, carried to the ex
tremes of bltternes. 1 hVe seen n'eiguTjors se
pa rated and estranged Mid social intercourse de-
stved, ves, sir, even ; has this pestiff rbus in
floenee penetrated the Church arid disturbed
its hsrmnny and? brotherhood. 'This--is nut Iht
ca-se-rn cfountiep, jiml vhv ? Ti sphere-of ac
tion i enlarged lte limifs within which jhf
cahdidnte operites, arei not so circumscribed
and he: must contest the election on broaden
groueds..1
r 'These v'ffws brought1 -him to. the ennchtMorj
that the iWouch's in the lower narf of the StnteJ
having ..eparair and dihtmet interests, otight-tS
be represented i but so far as Salisbury waj
concerned, he wanted it, and other town's, in th.e;:
State similarly sittia'ed, to he clenied the right
Mr. Meares had not intended to say one worr
on this -'question- but, some - of ..-the observ
tjons wliich fell from the jrentlemari last up
induced himto make a few remarks;
in tn-a
mam, he agreed with him in his views - He wa
of opinion !hjt Borough Towns had Interests sejj
nara'a and nistinct trom ; the counties iu wlucl
thev were .located often adversary interests
interest
ests f which the Agricult.,r,l portion ol
immunity knew noth?ng--which cou Id no!
Ine community knew not lung
be protected by county representation.
'The. gentle
man from Wake (Mr. Seavel!) harj
1.. ik. u.i i S -
remarked tru
foreign Commerce we are dependent on the an
" ': r"'ll- "'T2L '
thonty of Cof gress.ibut ro,t ao with regard ti
the ordinary tnnsaction connected with oul
State marine. The domestic regulations gavt?
r'se to'a feeling of jra'ousy between the fownt
and h counties, which ail must have witnessed
a jealousy between the buyer and the selh
boh having the same tntetest but viewing if
in a d'fferent ligl-.f. : . j
He alluded to . the subject of Inspelim. V. )
ery year attempts were made in our Legislature
on behalf of the county to alter the Inspection
hiwsaiul resisted on the part of the town. Whyt:
The grower wants a loose inspection- the btiv
er a rigid one, because jn propott'on to ther?
gor of the Inspection is the value of the articl
abroad. Kvery Eastern man knew,'lbt Tu
pent ine, inspected at Wilmington, would eonri
mand 1 1 more per barrel in Liverpool than th '
same article frcm any of the Eastern couni,?s
beca"ure the Inspection is known to be rigid.4
The jealousy .which this state of tltipes P'odi
ces, will net he removed until every mihdjs er
lightened. There is no radical d:fierence,nv j
true, between these interests spoken of, if cot4
sidered in a proper fight, but they are regardel
as different and adverse
He alluded to the Quarantine regulations. 1
wm of the- utmost importance to Conl
merce, that tl.ev should be well understoq
ana rigidly enforced. What ni country go
n
3
tlemen know about this matter f Jt could
be expected to be understood by any but co
mercialmen. ion cannot enlist the uttentici
of men in the examination of subjects which ,o
not concern them. J
Again, what did the member from a eouny
know about the subject of Pllotape, so essen
tial to the safety of bur navigation ? He ref u.
red to members of the Legislature presen'.p
sav, what occurred "when any discussion toik
place in, the' General Assembly on this aubjec .
Why the great mass of members, being total
ignorant on the suhjecf, applied for inform!
tion to the commercial gentlemen. Thee
questions were often highly, important, not u -ly
to the towns themselves, but to the whdje
Stae. Here then were grfat interests whiK
could not propeily be represented, if Borough
members were excluded. He agreed in opt
ion with the gentleman from Rowai, (Mr. Fish
er) as to inland towns. The causes wh'ch i
dueed the framers of the Constitution to g'yje
them the right oftrepresen'atinn, no lonMr
exists ; but the large commercial towns shoiftl
have some person to place their interests irfa
proper light. j
Much had' been said a'out the probability cf
returning gentlemen of inform:ition from tie
counties, if Borough representation were abil
ished. These instances might occur, but thfy
would be rare., Who has ever known a me
Merchanr sent io the Legislature from a couni ?
So fur as neiknew, not once since the Cnd
tution was framed. Very frequent 'y, prnfs
sional men were sent, but it would most alw-Vs
, hefoundt that though residing in towns, tlf y
'ereextensively engaged in agriculturd aflijrs
also, and have i considerable agricultural inter
est at stake. But even when there exists his
Community of interest, the instances are re.
He acknowledged the heart burnings nd
bitterness Which were sometimes engendered
by. these Boroiigh contests. The smaller the
number of votete, the more vh lent.--. This fas
an evil, he confessed, but it was confined? to
the. Boroughs, alone. What should these in
conveniences weigh, contrasted with the geat
interests' of the State, which he was advoCrtfag
Interes's which required to be fosteredsnd
demanded to be represented.
Mr. Holmes remarked that he had been fir a
Jong time, opposed taM he system of BortgU
Uepresrtation, though a -Repreaentativ of
theenunty which cowtsined the largest ton in
the State. "Hi mind, it - is true, was yetjpen
to convictionand if hf-coud be satisfied, that
there was this sepsnte and distinct infere. of
which. 'gentlemen had spoken, hewoulcnot
hesitate- to say that it should bejepresented.
He understood some one i- to say, that it - was
not only the interests of the towns . whici re
quired thus to he represented, but thai the
greatinterests of North Carolina were concern-,
ed in the; issue of this question, lie thought
all the commercial regulations which exist in
this State, wer the subjects of private legisla
tion, and were fimiied in their application. ' Kiir
instance, Sir, the Inspection and Quarantine
ls. n Is North Carolina so deeply interested h
this local legislation, that her Boruuhs muit
be d gnified with the privilege of sending a Re
pre-rn'ati4ve to pr' tect tliat interest ini?sVLe.
gislaturein the face of all the ev Is y&td
been so admir ibiv described bv the4UKT
tt-om uowan f But, &ir, ai great vasftratriWe
evils which he 'pnurtyayed, thev are' wfimlejy
magnified in , our Commercal twna.- Our po
pulation is of a more abandoned cast we hare
more dependent and more pliable materials to
Work;Upon. 'He alluded to seamen and others,
who went tb their ethployerjijto know how they
should rote," Nothii'g was more oromv than,
a daVjoHtwb before the election, to house the
f voters as they; Imused their? Cattle., This was
no extravagance t ne nad participatea in inese
contents, and knew the, fact. ( Though living in
Wilmington, he hadever since 1819, been op
posed to Borough representation.
In reply to the argument,1 that if the sA'stem
was destroyed, thf men of talents would be o-
vcrlouked; he would temark, that the people
were Donesrr and woukl aiwavg'tiar what wajf
rights f tntilmmoiv the J sarnereittlemen
inu reprcaenieu own &mt cuiihij, ana inis naa:
teen jfjie cae elsewhere! - Tie was not aware
Jhati VVilminjrtofi iiVd evtf been rupresentecr"
by a mere Merchant t "d as ta any jealotisy.
hich existed, both 'aides' were eautllv .to
bfime. v C-mntry gentlemert " were nt "afvvays
treated with noiitenpM hv frte inhahtianta of
the towns in trade, they each strove for advan
tage, and thus, httle matters produce consider
!bjidifficultiesv' i.-f- - -.---.
with recard to' th Inanectinn laws. he rllf-
Jered wit h Jthe ge ntlemao frirrt S ampsoni f ( Mr.
litres. ) We thntirhrit would be better ifthe
Whole svatemuf Inspect ioa were abolished.
or it operated -unequally , On Jthe farmer as it
3owt es isteI. , Our 4'ur Pontine, it Was true,
commanded a higher pricein market han ' hat
iihuc ni ojner piaces,our - ior,a verjr poyious
reason the Barrels re larfrer,? and they -are
sphl by weight. fVery frequentlj', Turpentfue
was ij condemned,; as unmetcliantable, because
a: ; handful .of 4lrppings Was found in it j the
.maker; of it as put pff with an inferior pr-ce,
,aH the mech int profited bit. , ,
With regard : to Qiiaflfttine regulations, Ire
Ivel'U that "wherejver a ni.n's. busines or inter.
esi leads him, he: should go. When. a Vessel
arrives, it i tlesi table: to all eonceruer!, that its
cargo sjmuld be discharged as soon aaposMble.
H?e b?lievcd that if thexe Quurantine regulatioiis
wrCpCornrnitted to the guardianship of gentle-
tnjen repre?entingf both' .theagricnlturaf"- atu
comtnercid interest., much mor eflictcit men-
strc..would be adopted to pVeVent the 'intra
dr-tin ef diseases' than a' e, npv'ro force.
:Ato Pilotiige. it w:;said ttiat the Borough
members w-.re at homeliolh's matter, but it
wis a fact thaf , however con vernt with it, no
regulations had been made to give satisf .ciiotn
y'f ar ftr year were petitions circulated for
an- alierdion of the system.. There were two
ktjhds of Pilots, called Branch Pilots, and Bar
on Ocean Pilots. The latter exposes his life to
the fury of the angry elements and brings in
a Vessel to the Bur ; he is permitted lo go no
' ", K .iauge,
la?,e 'eing allowed
i-jMt. jii i csci in iie wuar t, ne is corapeii-
ri' tn T ? Jt X? , r? .n?
w?Tgt to aopVher.? I this tight Sir,is it fair?
'tfTW ne. genflem
genfleman from KuncmnheCGdv. Swain)
had attempted he ihought,tu army partiei here.
Fbjr himself he did; not com , ta produce excite
ment of any kind, or with the desire of influen
in any 5odyv Th'it gentleman remarked that
the compromise of this question was owing to
the magnanimity of the Members representing
Borough Towns This..was true, but what was
th compromise ? He could see no compromise
wltere jne party could possibly losefnothing
He; called it a "sacrifice of tlie interests of the
smaller counties. He had voted against i', for
he'would infinitely prefer an unlimited Conven
tion to such an one as this.
tr. Jltearrs k rose to a-ate a single f ct which
woUld show the injustice of proscribing the Bo
rovghs a fact no d.mht equally true of other
towns, but he would confine his remarks to Wil
mington. The c nmy of New-Hanover pas a
tax; of .abnu $2,500 to $3,000 a year, of which
suta the town of Wilmington alone contributes
abOut,$ir00. In consequence of this tax, New
Hajiover is to have a Senator,. Now how many
people in Wilmintpn own the necessary free
imtdiito entitlethem to vote for a .Senator. In
I88, he was a candidate for the Sen de, and at
thJ time, out of about 250 vo'ers, there were
only 48 possessing the right to vote, llere then
were 200 voters paying a I rge tax and deprived
of 0ie right of Representation. "
"file gentleman last up had advocated the opi
ntoi, that everj' man ought to be his own In
spector ! If there were no Inspection, we should
see Bbls. of Turpentine half filled with smd,
belapse the chances of detection would-be so
vsml'. To illustrate the value of the Inspection
laws, he referred to the counties of Columbus
and Roheson, the Turpentine made in which
was floated through Lumber River and the Lit
tle pedee to Georgetown, S. C. where they have
no inspection. This Turpentine , is as well
made and ; ti-om as good materials as ours.
That which goes via Georgetown, & that which
goes rfa Wilmington, both ultimately reach
Charleston. And what then, sir r l hey are
both sold by weight too, sir, and the Wilming
ton brand brings' f i more per bbl. simply be-
e-utse if Am ban inspected and the buyer has
conhdence that aHis right.
As to the dissatisfaction of the Pilots about
theiSjstem, it is' perfectly natural that men
should want to get $2 instead of $1. Not content
with conducting a vessel to the bar, the Ocean
Pilot wishes to accompany it river the bar to
town- But the Commissioners jof Navigation
say, and with great, propriety, ! you must not
come beyond your prescribed limits. The coast
must always be guarded ; you are bound under
a hetavv penalty, to be always on the aleit to
rendr assistance to vessels which. may require
you services, and you must not abandon your
amy under any pretence, is this not correct
policy, sir?
Oae more remark and he wasjdoh'. Lock at
the uluties paid by Wilmington to the General
G jvrnment. She pays, sir, $100,050 in duties,
a greater amount than is collected in the whole
Slat besides.- Is hot this another consideration
and ?a weighty one, why she. should be repre
sent'Hl in your.Legislature He Was'dope
Mir. IMmef said it wis true that Wilmington
paid U0O tax, but only about oUU were paia
by thetMerchantsT - With respect to the Heve
nue accruing to the Generrd Government, it
constituted . no reason whyvWilmington should
be represented in the Stte:Leiris!ature. The
Grtvrnment would take Care of their own inter
ests, and he wanted as little interferencert its
pari with our State concerns as possible.
, Ttie debate was further continued by Mr
Jllcfyt'eri, Gov, Branch, Mr. ffifstn, of Perqui
monfj, Judge Gatton and Mr. Toomer. Their re.
marrs mihII appear m our next, being shut out
this week by oitr confined limits. The Commit
tee havurg refused to strike out tor the purjose
ofinierting, ort Mr. oyou's motibnv Ihe whole
subject was referred to the Committee-raised
on the basis of Representation, to consider and
re port t and the Convention adjourned about
past 3 o'clock. r f
?Tbc Cbrnrnittei who were appointed bv
the Convention to consider ami report the
manher in which it wili;be expetlient to
take-up the business of the Copvtsntion,
Report r ; ; ..." r
It appear to youtfCommtttee thatfhe
business of the Convention will, be most
conveniently brought belfore th'e Conven
tion Ibv their proceeding to consider and
to afct upon the (oUowing Resolutions,
which are therefore Veprted'isi'mpjjr' is
presenting a pjan of ojierations and 'not
as iridicating &n 'pinion on the merits of
any f the Resciutiops: '.
1. mttafceci that so much of the Act; entitled
Ajh Act concerning jk Convention to amend
tlie flonstittdfon of ItSta'te," which act, has
heen'ratified by the people, as d-fects' amend
ments tojbe "made to trre ConstUution "of Hhis
State so as to reduce the number of t he mem
.be,rs of tlie Senate to not less than thirty-fbur
nor more thah fiftv. o be elected by thedi-
trKrto he latdbfr'at convenient and prescribed
1 pKrtoua by Counties in pruportioti to the public
taxerpaittintd the TreasfrVotate by the
dfizenstnrfre6rd1bxa i as
tlirectsari amendmenf toflie made to the Coflsti
ufiomwhereby to reduce 'the ntiraber' of rnerrf
f er iri f ue If ouse of Comwions to noilesa t han
Mnetvnor mote thaie hundred and twenty.
exclusive oflloroitgh MembenCto beprortiohed
apcording to federal, population aiwlf aU 'so
much thereof as relates to the reaKiepce and
Qualification of persons voting for5epators and
of peHons" eligible to the Senate, be referred tot
a Comrnittee of 15 members, one of whom shall
be selected from' each of the. Congressional pis
triets tf this State,with instructions Joj IVatne an-1
report the amendments as by said Act reqnied.
. 2. fiftfrarethat; so .muclv f fhej said Act Js
djrecf, a mode to be prescribed for Hhe ratifica
tion of sudh. amend not nts as may be recomrn,nd
ed by the Convention : aho, so much thereof ,
as directs necessary oriUoances and rei'dat ions
toTe prescribed for the pdiose Of giving1 opera
tion an reflect to the t'onstitution as altered and
amended - and also V aguish thereof, as directs
$.n the Convention U4I provides tn wiat man
ner anienIm:Mitssh ll in future be nude to the
said Constitution be referred to a Commit t ee 1
bf thiiieencmentritfris to he,se!ected as J'i Jbe 1
and report the necessaryprbvis5ons for thepur
po6etif carrying the stid direction into ex-;cu
tiotl. r i'--"' ' I: riff- ' N S-'
o. Itettfved thutVCommtee be appointed
to enquire arid report, wheer any and if ati v,
m haf amend-nents are. proper to be m tde to the
Custitut)on of thisSrateats t the exe'usiori iu
whAle, or in part, of Borough Merobetafrom tie
House of Communis. J ; ,
4. jRcsolved. that a Committee be appointed
to enquire and reportwhether anyv and if any.
what amendmiits are proper to; be mtde to'the
tvi lyiiiiMi iiiKin, aviu trie apnigauon w rcatriu
ion of the right of free negroes or raulatoes to
vote for members of the Senate or Huse of
Commons . ."l -
5. Resolved, that a Committee be appointed to
enquire and report j.whet her any,-. and if -ny.
wh it amendments are proper to be made to the
sud Colnstituti n, to disqu ldy members of the
Assembly, and officers ot the State, or itunse
who hp d places of trust under theutbority of
this State, from bein-; or continuing sqcli wnile
tbey holjtl :ny oth'T office or appointment ui
der the goverment of this Sia'e, or the United
aiaies, or anv otner g'lvem'nenu
o. Resolved, 1ha a Gommittte. be appointed
o enquire and report," whether any, .and if any.
what amendments shoti!d be mule to the said
Constitution, so as to mike the, capitation tax
on slaves and free white polls egual.
7. Jietaloea, that a Committee be appointed to
enquire and report, whether 'any, and if anv, -h:t
amendments be necessiry in the mode of ap
pointing and removing frm office Militia Officers
and Justices of ths Peace. : , . . '
8. Jietolnfd, that a Committee be appointed to
enquire and report whether any, aid if any, what
amendments be proper to compel the mmer
of the Genera? Assembly to vote viva tfpee, in
the elec' ion of officers. v
9. ?ootf, that a Committee be abnointe&to
enrjuireand report.5 whether any, and if anv.
what amendmtiRts he proper to be mule in the
32rl article of the Constitution
10. ficsoiverl, that a Committee be appointed
o endiiire and report whether any, anrd if any.
what amendments be proper to be matle in the
Constitution for supplying vacancies in the Gen
eral Assembly acc Ming before the meeting of
the General Assembly. V
11. JitjgoloetL that a. Committee be appointed
to enquire and report whether. anV, and if any.
wnat amendments be proper to provide for
biennial instead of annual meetings of theOener
arAssemblv , and for the biennial instead of tri-
annual eh ction of Secretary of State. '
12. Resolved, that a Committee be appointed
to enquire and report whether any 'and if arty,
what amendments be proper to- provide tor the
e'ection of Governor bj the qualified voters for
the members ot the; Mouse or Commons, and
prescribing the term for which he muy be elec
ted, and the number of terms during which he
snail oe eligible. ,-,.. -v
13. Resolved, Tnat a Comm'ttee be appointed
to enquire and report whether n, and if any,
what amendments may be proper,- providing
that the Attorney-General shall be elected for a
term or years. . . . s4--
14, Jtcsolved, mat a uommittee- oe appointed
to, enquire and report whether any, and if any,
what amendinents'snould bf made providing a
tribunal whereby Judges of the Supreme, and
Superior Courts and other Officers of the State
mav fe impeachev! and tried for corruption and
mal-praciices in office.
15. Resolved, that a Committee be appointed
to enquire and report whether any, ami if any,
what amendmiits should be mide vacating the
office of a Justice of the P-ace,and disquahtying
him from holding sucti appointment upon con
viction of an i nfamous crime orot corruption and
nrvd practice irt office.
16- Resolved, that a Committee be appr::nted
to enquire and report Svhetlier any, and ij any,
whatumendments should be mde providing for
the removal of any of the Judges of the Supreme
or Superior Courts for mental or physical ina
bility upon a Concurrenf ltesohition of two
thirds of both brahches of the Legislature.
17. Resolved that a Comrnittee be appointed
to enquire andtreport whether any, and itVanj ,
what amemlments should be made providing
that the s:fries!f the Judges, shall not be di
minished.during their continuance in office.
18. Rtsnltc(lt that a Committee be appointed
to enquire and report whether any amendments
oujjht to be made, and if so what amendments
are proper, to provide against unnecessary pri
vate legislation, .i ,
. .19. Resolved, xsX a Committee be appointed
to enquire and rt port whether it be proper to
make any amendment, and if so, what amend
ment, so as to provide that no Judge of the Su
preme Court shall be eligible to any office, hor
any JiidgjMof the Superior Court to any other
office thanthat of Judge of the, Supreme Court,
while retaining his judicial apgom: ment. .
RALEIOn, IV. C.
TUESDAY, JUNE 16, 3 835.
STATE COWVJEWtTIOif.
Our columns are filled, to t! , exelusion of almost
evsrythiog ele, with tha proceedings of the Con
vention, than which, we presunie, wecoUld gave
nothing more acceptable to our readers. &ut though
we use a small type and condense as much' aa pos
sible we aretmabl to keep up with the Debate
wrdch ha taken place- We will endeavor however,
txtVeekj to bring it u,'if praccable. '
: It will be that the question of; Borough Re
presentation, Jias bean pretty extensively discussed,
but no decuipn has . been. had.' 8hould a result fa-
-vorableto the interest bit Certain Borough "enaoe it
will be justly attributable to the zeal and ability with
which that interest has been support&L -. .
Thi policy of extending to Tree persons of color
the right of suflrsgCf under cwatn rsstrictions, as
been Utoroughly discussed, and the qoostioq has
been carried by a email majority fr abrogating the
rbi of persons of this description to1 vote for mem
bars of Assembljr A sketch of the Debate will his
iron lu bur uexfc
TUe Com:rjtoae to-w;h
havmade a Report, eonga?rsdiAg that the 8roat
shafl, eanaUt of 60 land &HSua jCmmoam a(J-
I20,m2mbers'.lt wKI detrbtless olie'it an ammafed -
--'a?-:; -v7'-!- -1 W.y
Hrtrar Wi Miit ::XtrJ has been seloefed te
deliver the Oration, iri tbisryionr aprosd
National Anniversary.' ' '."f
. JS WjT.
We Efiixcopal Convention fast faetd atlttuTav
borough; wavwelearrv ;
man, 25 Ijty Delegates, and a number of tisitorsj
Bev. Dr. Avery, of Edenton,; presided, The
Convention dec";Ad alnttist ttnanimoOsly o lert!""
the EpkcbpaiFund to the Episcopal $$jfa t
enable the Committee to complete the buildings
necessary to camr on theperationf ofthis 'fiouy.
nshing Institutiotv. Rey-Af essrs. Buxton, Jnt
Wiley, nd Davis, andcTkfcssrs.-Geo, .-141'DmttL'
C. Millett, E. L: WinsloV and Aferhr
son ' eTe(app6inted Delegates pt$t v'Oei?erl ! 1
onventin. ! .. V ; !
School and Standing Committees, same! ai taat
vear.
Thi nex Cbnyentioii to be..lwld'igerii, ,
The m ist ealamitotH Fire thkeVer Jt
uuaneston. s. c. Has iast taken niaca tnere. -
fit - '-r - .... .c- V" '!' ''T..- .i-vr . ' "I
JThe namher of buildings deatroved ta stiiatod''
at from three tfour hundred 1 "mw-"A ' , r
t1-- ' ' - VP- " .' ' r ' . I'. ' .,
Abraham Kencher and R. C Cottoit, of, Chat
ham, and Burton Craigs,' and R. G. Pirbn !,of
f Rowan, are Candidates for Congress,in the9a!iis
bliry district. " ;
" fop'KMtCwpJtiik H-Watsbn,Ncetn
and Thomis S. Ashe, of Uillsborbughi hare tteieA
a Imittcd to County Court licence and Balis
Ed iey, of Lincoln', Leonard E. lb.ompsan.;atMl
LJohn Gray Byndm, of Rutherfordton tb -9upa
nor uri licence. ; . '-.- f'-;. -1 '
'Saiith-CinroHta Ctdlegjt 6ryyij?EB! .
bf Columbia College, N. has 'jbeen'pind
Professor of. Chemistry and Mineralogy Or
Francis Leiber, of Pmladelphia r Professor of
H istory and Political Economy t Isaac W Stuf
art, oi cj. u. rrotessor oi ureeK anu .iaun f
Thomas S, Jwiss, of West Point,. P.rpfesaor or
Mathematics, and the Rev, Dr. Capers Professoe
of aaered Literature. The appointmenl of Pre
sident was postponed v"" ' .. j''-:-!
. ;
It is s id that the Baltimore ConTentlotj con
sisted of 600 members; of whorri 195,web from
Maryian and nearly 100 from Virginians that
twf States, and neither of themjf tie -fifft m'ig
n.tude, sent nearly a moiety, f the ektire (idele
gation! What a ridiculous faj$e, te prejtend tbat
a body, so constituted, could! give a fahrxgoai ;1
tion of public opinW'-y f- ' '1
rW.'--s'.
Tn thia'cityi on Taraday 'lsat;W? aniss : LltfihliJri,
Rw m iv.kr. n ,rftii.---jri-rJs.--'t:r--f-':-
' H ATA.. V PIAi4CT VV. VLWV ,
On Thttrsdaj.mairninkat, MraBVH. Osbornsv
CousortKof the Rev. MOsb
Presbyterian. Church, ta this' City. m The decpased
was a native of the, . ' :y of N-rfe ndsister
of the Roy. Samuel Hutchins, now a. ; Miaaonarj'
on the Island of Ceyfon. At anajsrl age, she tnado
a profeaeion of Religion and connectod birself wiUi
the Church of Christ. Itrlier JDhruau character,
consistent and exemplary, thrbb' jlbsfeb bbT
her last mckneas- with a meekneand alibasatoa,
Characurnatic.' of a child or Gotland Vjf elyifig oa
the merits of a crucified Savior, v aba descended ie
the Tomb in peace, sustained by the borjea'tad
consolations of, the Gospel of Jesus CSrisf. ' -'
Tlie State Convention haying adjourosd af art
early hour, a Funeral Discourse was- delivered on
the occasion by the Ref. Dr. M'Plxeeter ia' the ,
Presbyterian Church, and her remains 'were, attend- &
ed to the tomb by a large concourss of citiic. and
fto8.CotnmuMcatcd. ' Vv.J-
LOOKATT
- i ; ; , .; r, , 'i.' st'w
piio UCSCKIBEB is now opening ai
JL his Store, 3 doors above1 the Post-o&ce, a j
beautiful supply of - . ;
A- Stftio; &Suoifttr
" t -Consisting of-- V-?-- '
COATS. PAXTALOOHS andTCST
Of every ooloar and quality.
Persons; wishing to supply thenUelveat will do
well to call, asx he is determined to sell tbw,for-
cash onhv'- .;t-J ty-- p
Together iWith a general anortment of '
FANCYAITICLES, STOCKSy 'SCSCND
EKS, GLOVES,' SHIRT COLLARAND
: 1 bosoms. 'yf fr-'
KnA many other articles kept by Merehanf
TaiioTS- -' '' -: - '' - " ' i
; THOS. iU OLIVER; (aoaaY.) i
-- ' ' Merchant Taylor,
. r ayetteviUet. . "
' i. - A'.. V.'jRaleigb-;N.ar-
- - i t- - - ' -
Jiankthe StmJ Carolthai
- i DlVlilF.Nf 'bfiW i, -(fa&tfa:1at.
xV profits' made for the half year ending the v
Zj.l day ot. May last, has aeen declared, and wdl
be paid at tfe Bank, on -the first Monday irr July
nfxt, ada the Branches and Agencies fifteen
days thereafter subject to-the tajx off went v
five cents on each 8h re of S'Opk owned by io-
uiMtia-s, according u rue VOarier. -
u. ucivKY. casruer.
Raleigh, June 12. 1S35. t
SUtc-of JNTorth.:Crblia
Court of Pleas and Qusrter fls1oap
. ';MtyTermflS55,--, ":-p
WilHatn Hill and Cyrus Wbiby
5 ':: TheHeira of James Orard
Patition to sell Real Estate:
IT appearing to the satisfactibif of thli Cottft,
that Jams G' ant, jr. oneT)f tfte Defeifdants, ,
is not an irrhtbita.it.'of thilSnt It is there
fore ordered tfut publication be pridslefhe . !
ttdeigh Register for six. week,.ffloufingr the
said llefendant to be and appea, before ,te
Justices of our nei Court of Plesf '&i Quarter
SeVens to be held for the County ol Wake
at the Court !Ius in. Ralelgfiy en the third
MobdavluiAugnst next arid v plead, answer, or
demur 'lb the PlaintifPa peiUioptherwpte, it
wilt be heard ex fart asfohinwaird decreed ae
ceding to the prave tf-the ftdobers'rf t v
rviiiicss, u m, ,, crjw Wwnrfn,
tfaUethe 3rd Mtndty 0f IfjllSJt
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