Thursday, August 19, 1965
THE TAR HEEL
P3 3
if
I H f
I "It
i L
WILLIAM FRIDAY
. . . quiet listener
Legion: Faculty
Not Worth Risk
RALEIGH - With State Sen.
Robert Morgan acting as its
chief spokesman, the North
Carolina Department of the
American Legion last Thurs
day launched a strong defense
of the speaker ban law, favor
ing the retention of the law
even if it caused the Univer
sity to lose its accreditation
and its top faculty members.
At one time during the hear
ings, Morgan said: "We do
not believe that if their (facul
ty) service has to be pur
chased at the price of allowing
Communists to come upon our
University to influence our
youth . . . that their services
would be worth the price that
we have to pay."
During another part of the
Legion's testimony before the
commission, Henry Royall,
chairman of Americaism at
the organization's Chapel Hill
post, shocked the audience and
commission members by say
ing that a leftist tinge was
necessary in order to succeed
at the University.
Royall later denied that he
had said this. However, a tape
transcript showed the inter
change to have gone as fol
lows, with Royal answering a
question put to him by com
mission member Rep. Lacy
Thornburg:
"I can only describe that by
a feeling . . . sort of an at
mosphere, and I believe that
if the commission really
wanted to go into this matter,
you could get students to tell
you that they feel that to pass
their work and get good grades,
they would have to take a
leftist tinge."
"Are you telling me . .
Thornburg began and was in
terrupted by another commis
sion saying "May I . . ."
No, let me," Thornburg
countered, repeating, "Are you
telling me . . ."
Royal immediately interupt-
ed him and said, "That is a
belief and a feeling."
Thornburg was finally able
to ask nis question: "Are you
telling this commission, sir,
that in order to pass the work,
that is a part of the Univer
sity program, and in order for
a student to get a fair grade,
it's necessary for him to pro
fess or express leftist tenden
cies?" "No, I'm not saying that,"
replied Royall.
WHILE IN DURHAM, BE SURE
TO VISIT
HI
00K
Five Points
"The South's Largest and Most
Complete Book Store"
A Drama Unfolds In Raleigh
(Continued from Page 1)
strated avid approval of what
was said by Legion witnesses.
At one point segments of the
audience cheered wildly while
others, including a number of
educators, looked grim. Britt
then reprimanded the audi
ence, and called for restraint.
At another point a gasp of
shock and astonishment rose
from the audience in response
to a witness' statement. Fre
quently the audience would
express amusement at a state
ment made by either a wit
ness or a commission member.
Questions, too, varied from
commission member to com
mission member. Chairman
Britt usually supplied the rou
tine questions, those asked
of every witness, regardless
which side his testimony sup
ported. Wilson Daily Times editor
Mrs. Elizabeth Swindell, the
only woman member of the
panel, presented long, care
fully - phrased thought - pro
voking questions, usually de
manding a similar answer in
return.
Rev. Ben C. Fisher's queries
were soft - spoken and least
inclined to upset a witness.
Col. W. T. Joyner, wearing
dark glasses during the entire
proceeding, almost exuded an
air of indifference almost,
but only until the Raleigh law
yer detected a tiny flaw or
an apparent contradiction in
some part of the testimony.
Then he would probe the wit
ness on this point until he had
received what he considered
a satisfactory answer.
Rep. A. A. Zollicoffer's ques
tions, often accompanied with
a mischievous sparkle in his
eyes, were frequently found
amusing by members of the
audience, but occasionally up
set the witness. .
Rep. Lacy Thornburg could
usually be counted on to toss
out a string of rather harm
less questions, to be sudden
ly followed by a sharp, burn
ing one.
Other commission members,
Gordon Hanes, Russell Kirby
and Charles -Myers, usually
stayed in the background, fre
quently passing up question
ing a witness.
At times the questioning
took on the air of cross-examination
at a trial. One com
mission member would pick
up a line of questioning where
another member had left off.
Often several members, al
ternating in rapid succession,
would fire off a quick burst
of questions at a witness.
But usually, informality was
the order of the day. Commis
sion members and witness who
had served together in the
LOST
Ladies Hamilton watch be
tween Graham Memorial and
Wilson Library. Call Phyllis
Rice, 968-9002.
MUST SACRIFICE
1956 air-conditioned Cadillac
ambulance. Automatic trans
mission. Good condition.
New Tires. Used for camp
ing, beach, town. $495 or best
offer. Call 933-1211 Extension
Library. (Advertisement)
EXCHANGE
Durham, N. C.
General Assembly frequently
addressed eaach other by their
first names.
Reporters at the press ta
bles compared notes and whis
pered private jokes back and
forth. One UPI man chewed
thoughtfully on a big cigar
without ever removing it from
its cellophane wrapper.
Photographers, cramped in
to a narrow space between
r """""" " ?
KEEP THE BAN: That was the suggestion of member Col. W .T. Joyner listen as America
Duke assistant professor A. C. Jordan (left) Legion spokesmen tell the commission that
as he spoke last Thursday before the speaker the law must be kept at all costs,
ban study commission. Commission chairman
David Britt (left in photo at
THE 0FFI8IAL PMASEB
OF YOUH USED
TEXTBOOKS & OUTLINES
en oo
YOU BUY
the press tables and the stage,
occasionally darted back and
forth, literally having to cUmb
over each other in the pro
cess. Flashing grins and mut
tering apologies to each oth
er, they stretched their legs
whenever the opportunity pro
vided itself, and did not com
plain. All in all, the auditorium,
the glaring Klieg lights, the
quiet proficiency of the news
right) and panel
UNIVERSITY
OOKETERIA
STEELE ELOd. GMiPUS
on
LL. . .
men, and the varying speak
ers gave the hearings the air
of an unfolding drama.
For some of the roles in
this drama, the audience al
ready knew the words, for
other parts, it was kept guess
ing to the last minute.
At the end of Thursday's last
session, one almost expected
a curtain to descend. One act
of the drama had been pre
seated.
. photos by Ernest RoU.
AflD SAUl
".!-: I
.HkV r . I
n
w J