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Editor's Note This is the
second in a series on the his
tory of the controversial and
much - debated communist
speaker ban law.
Friday the commission ap
pointed to study the implica
tions of the law recommended
to Governor Dan K. Moore
that the law be amended, and
Moore called for a special ses
sion of the General Assembly
to convene Nov. 15.
Throughout the hearings con
ducted by the commission, one
of, if not the most debated is
sue was that of accreditation:
what it is; how the speaker
ban might affect it; and what
the loss of it would mean to
North Carolina institutions.
Second In A Series
By ERNEST ROBL
DTH Staff Writer
"The commission devoted
considerable time to studying
the significance of accredita
tion on our state-supported col
leges and university. Suffice it
to say accreditation means
Tryouts
Tryouts today at 4 p.m. in
Playmakers Theatre for one
act plays to be produced Nov.
22 and 23. Sixteen mixed parts
are open. Scripts are available
in 307 Bynum Hall.
Vol. 74, No. 49
Student Group To Support
U. S. Policy In Viet Nam
A group of students an
nounced yesterday that they
will hold a gathering affirm
ing administration policy in
Viet Nam in conjunction with
Veterans Day ceremonies in
Polk Place Thursday.
Official Veterans Day cere
monies, in which members of
Navy and Air Force ROTC
units will participate, will be
held around the flag pole be
ginning 4 p.m. tomorrow.
The student group, headed
headed by Otto J. Reich, a
Carolina Takes Honors
In Debate Tournament
Four UNC debaters took top
team and individual awards at
the Appalachian State Debat
ing Tournament in Boone Fri
day and Saturday.
Another UNC foursome won
honors in Atlanta at the nation
ally - ranked Emory Peachtree
Invitational Debate Tourna
ment last weekend.
David Kiel, Craig Bradly,
Jerry Wagner and Don Bum
gardner compiled a 10-2 rec
ord at Appalachian. Bradly
and Kiel went undefeated for
six straight rounds.
This pair received "superior"
speaker ratings and Wagner,
received one of the few "ex
cellent" ratings.
IFC Sees
By FRED THOMAS
DTH News Editor
(Second in a series of ar
ticles on the status of the so
cial fraternity on the Ameri
can college campus.)
If social fraternities are on
the decline across the nation,
the trend has not rubbed off
onto the minds of Greekmen
at UNC.
"I think the fraternity sys
tem at Carolina is as strong
now, if not stronger that it
has ever been," said Frank
Martin, president of the Inter
fraternity Council.
Martin and Neil Thomas,
publicity chairman of the IFC,
expressed the opinion that the
decrease in the percentage of
campus men involved in fra
ternities is by no means an
indication of a break-down in
the system.
In 1957 25 per cent of UNC's
6,000 students were fraternity
members. Today 19 per cent
of a student body of nearly
12,000 participate in the Greek
system.
Necessary Decrease
Martin said he feels there
, had to be a decrease in the
percentage of students be
longing to fraternities when
the enrollment increased so
greatly.
Thomas pointed out that al
though representative mem
bership in fraternities has de
creased by six per cent, there
has been an actual increase
from 1,500 to 2,200 men in the
Greek system here.
Martin said his opinion and
the opinion of many in the
itation Chief Issue In
much, financially and other
wise. For any institution to
lose accreditation would be
substantially damaging."
The above sentences, taken
from the report the Speaker
Ban Study Commission pre
sented Friday afternoon, con
tain somewhat of an under
statement. It would be a con
servative estimate to say that
at least half of the total time
spent on the hearings was de
voted to the issue of accredita
tion. Almost an entire day of
the four days of hearing' on
the law was devoted ex
clusively to accreditation, and
every witness, regardless of his
stand, was questioned on his
attitude toward it.
More than anything else, a
threat to the accreditation of
state - supported institutions,
provoked by the speaker ban
law, was reponsible for the
creation of the study commis
sion. At its organizational meeting
in July, the commission de
cided to open testimony with
representatives of the Southern
Charlotte senior, has obtained
permission to participate in the
ceremonies from the Univer
sity administrators and the
ROTC units. The student
group is not affiliated with any
campus organization.
Reich said that the students
are attempting to "show the
American public and the sol
diers in Viet Nam that the ma
jority of U. S. students stand
behind administration policy."
"I feel that the student body
of UNC has been given a bad
UNC edged out such tradi
tional rivals as Wake Forest
and Duke;
Steve Kemis, Sue Whitt, Bob
Powell and Eric Van Loon
competed against more than
300 debaters at Emory, argu
ing the topic "Resolved: That
law enforcement agencies
should be given greater free
dom in the investigation and
prosecution of cime."
UNC emerged the eighth
ranked team in the tournament
with a record of 5-3 and 4-4
Among the nationally - pow
erful teams there were Penn
sylvania, Northwestern, Emo
ry and Davidson.
No Gloom In Frat
administration is that the fra
ternity system will function
best when it comprises from
18 to 25 per cent of the stu
dent body.
He cited schools in the Ivy
League as examples where
too great a percentage of stu
dents had belonged to fra
ternities. The result was a
strong GDI" resentment
among non-fraternity men.
Martin said he thinks this
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Association of Colleges and
Schools. Immediately after
this decision, one commission
member noted that he knew
almost nothing about the asso
ciation and its relationship to
member institutions.
Other Members
Other members of the panel,
including Chairman David
Britt, quickly concurred on this
point.
This raised the questions:
What is the Southern Associa
tion of Colleges and Schools?
Who runs it? What does it do?
And why are its decisions of
such vital importance to the
University?
Vice President of the Consol
idated University Dr. Arnold
K. King phrased it as follows:
'The primary purpose of the
association is to guarantee the
public certain minimum stand
ards in educational institutions.
'The association, which has
no political and no religious
connections, carries this out
by periodical evaluation of
member institutions."
The Southern Association is
one of six regional accrediting
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name due to the demonstra
tions by a minoirty of the stu
dents," he said.
The participating students
will make a public statement
and will lay a wreath at the
base of the flagpole.
The ceremonies in Polk
Place will be held in conjunc
tion with Veterans Day observ
ances across the nation.
The Associated Press re
ports that citizens in all states
will be using Veterans Day
ceremonies in reaffirmation of
American Policy in Viet Nam.
Some anti-war groups plan to
use the occasion for renewing
their protests against Amem
ca's combatant role in Viet
Nam.
However, an Associated
Press survey of many cities
across the nation shows that
most of the ceremonies are de
signed to demonstrate support
of the President's policy.
Vice President Hubert Hum
phrey will place a presidential
wreath on the tomb of the Un
known Soldier in Arlington Na
tional Cemetery, highlighting
the day's observances. He will
address what is expected to be
one of the greatest throngs
ever to attend such a cere
mony. A large part of the crowd in
Arlington is expected to be col
lege students in the area, who
have said that they will demon
strate at Arlington that paci
fists who burn their draft cards
are only a small percentage of
their generation.
was the main contributor to
the withdrawal of social fra
ternities from these campus
es. Solid Foundation
The IFC spokesmen said
the very means of selecting
members will continue to
make fraternities strong.
"We don't start out with a
large group of men and hope
they will find common inter
ests and build friendships,"
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organizations in the United
States, which now handle ac
creditation of educational insti
tutions ranging from universi
ties to elementary schools.
The organization was found
ed in 1895 in Atlanta, Professor
Edwin Mims of UNC being one
of the originators.
Original Purpose
The association was first or
ganized for the purpose of ac
crediting high schools, on the
premise that students from
schools which met certain
standards would be more ac
ceptable to colleges and uni
versities than students coming
from other high schools.
This program was later ex
tended to the accreditation of
Colleges and universities, af
fecting the transfer of stu
dents, grades and credits, and
providing a basis for admis
sion to graduate schools.
There are currently 411
member colleges and univer
sities in the 11 states covered
by the Southern Association:
Florida, Georgia. North Caro
lina, South Carolina, Virginia,
West Virginia, Tennessee, Mis
The South's Largest
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Alan Newcomb Tells Press
Club Of WBTV's Ban Stand
By DAVID ROTHMAN
DTH Staff Writer
Alan Newcomb, public af
fairs director of WBT-WBTV
in Charlotte, said Monday night
he hasn't compromised bis con
victions by broadcasting edi-
Future
they said. "Rather, we start
with a relatively small group
of men who have come to
gether because of common in
terests and who want to be
close friends."
"As the University gets lar
ger the fraternity will play an
increasingly important role in
providing a place where a
group of friends can become
a closely - working unit,"
Martin said.
Neither of the two seemed
to feel that fraternities at
UNC will be crippled by the
Residence College System.
In fact, they both expressed
their hopes that the system
will continue to be the suc
cess it has been.
Different Objectives
"Fraternities and Residence
Colleges are not alike, and
are not trying to offer the
same things," Thomas said.
It has been pointed out that
students today have access to
social facilities through Resi
dence Halls which used to be
expected to come from the
Greeks.
Martin noted that with the
swelling enrollment at the
University, 23 fraternities
could not possibly provide en
tertainment for everyone.
So if fraternities maintain
a social calendar for them
selves, they have not fallen
down in this department, and
it is fortunate that adequate
social activity is being pro
vided for non - fraternity
men.
"A lot of emphasis has been
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sissippi, Alabama, Louisiana
and Texas.
In addition to handling the
accreditation of educational in
stitutions in this area of the
United States, the Southern
Association also handles ac
creditation of institutions in all
of Latin and South America
5,r. Arnold Perry, dean of
UNC s School of Education, is
currently serving as chairman
of the association's committee
on Latin American relations,
and has been working with the
association for 16 years.)
Three Commissions
Most of the current work of
the Southern Association is
handled through three com
missions a Commission on
Colleges and Universities, a
Commission on Secondary
Schools, and a Commission on
Research and Services.
It was the first of these, the
Universities, which threatened
North Carolina's state-supported
institutions of higher edu
cation with revocation of ac
creditation last May because of
the state's two-year-old speak
er ban law.
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WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER
torials supporting the speaker
ban.
Newcomb, who says he is
against the ban, told more than
80 journalism students in How
ell Hall that he is merely "the
print on the page, the means
by which the message gets
across to the public
"U you analyze the issues
and figure out a better way to
use TV to broadcast editorials,
then let me know about it," he
said.
Anyway, Newcomb explain
ed, he does determine his sta
tion's editorial policy, but only
as one of six editorial board
members.
But once the board has made
its final decision, he said, he
would even be willing to con
tribute arguments contrary to
his opinions.
Newcomb does not consider
this practice a form of dis
honesty. He said single individuals
probably shouldn't determine
the editorial policies of a multi
million dollar broadcast sta
tions. Newcomb called TV editori
Doctors Won't Comment
On Condition Of Twins
Doctors had no comment
Tuesday on the condition of the
Siamese twin girls separated
at North Carolina Memorial
Hospital Monday.
A surgeon said Monday that
if the girls live, the operation
will be the first successful one
of its kind known in history.
Late Monday night the twins
were reported in "very satis
factory condition," but still in
danger. Doctors said they con
sider the next seven to 10 days
the crucial period.
The girls were born last
April to Mrs. David Allen of
High Point.
The girls, known medically
as ischiopagus twins, were
Ban
What effect would such a loss
of accreditation have on UNC
'Loss of accreditation for a
university is comparable to
loss of credit rating for an in
dividual," was the analogy
used by King. "It's not entirely
hopeless, but it is always dif
ficult to rebuild confidence."
Shortly after it was learned
that the accreditation of the
University might be endanger
ed, William C. Friday, presi
dent of the Consolidated Uni
versity, outlined the following
areas in which this revocation
would affect the University:
Individual departments
and professional schools which
are accredited separately by
respective professional organi
zations, would all lose accredi
tation simultaneously with the
University, since the accredi
tation of the University is a
prerequisite to the accredita
tion of departments and
schools.
Students of the University
would find it difficult to trans
fer to an accredited school or
to enroll in a graduate pro
gram at another institution.
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Turnout In Election
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A surprisingly heavy turn
out of student voters flocked
to the polls in the fall elections
yesterday to voice their opin
ions on a number of candi
dates. At press time last night bal
lots were still being counted.
No results had been tallied on
the class officers elections. Re
turns were incomplete in the
Honor Council voting. The
constitutional amendment has
been defeated. Here are the
returns as of 9:45 p.m.
Constitutional Amendment
(two ballot boxes missing):
For: 1137; Against 2,581.
Honor Council: WD IV
Checksfield 114, Burden 51;
WD V Appel 78, Bernasek
36, Merrick 46;
WD VI Runoff between
Caldwell and Chipman.
MD II Eastwood 51, Abbott
alizing "still experimental,"
though eventually "regular
professional standards like
those in newspaper work will
be established."
He noted that WBTV fre
quently gives opponents to its
editorial policies chances to re
ply over the air but usually
they send tapes or letters rath
er than personally visiting the
station to broadcast their
views.
Newcomb said the Federal
Communications Commission
"exercises a tremendous de
gree of tolerance despite flag
rant violations of fair practice
rules."
One station, he said, that
FCC claims has not given its
opponents equal time on the air
is WRAL-TV, Raleigh, whose
methods it called "high-handed."
He says he believes TV sta
tions should hesitate to endorse
political candidates, lest the
stations be called "the Demo
cratic station, the Republican
station, the Moore station or
the Sanford station."
joined in the lower hip region,
from the hip to the common
naval
Surgeons said that each twin
has two kidneys, but one in
each girl is abnormal and use
less. However, they pointed out
that human beings can live
with one kidney.
Each girl has a normal blad
der outlet, but a colostomy was
performed on each, meaning an
opening was created m the
front of the abdomen for bowel
drainage.
Surgeons said that the decis
ion to operate was based on
the danger of several diseases
setting in, among them kidney
disease.
Evaluation
Private foundations, don
ors, and governmental institu
tions which make research
grants, would turn to accred
ited schools.
Faculty recruitment would
become difficult and the Uni
versity would lose many of its
top professors.
Loss of accreditation from
the Southern Association would
not only affect the University's
relationship with other colleges
and universities in the South,
but with those all over the
country as well as abroad.
Loss of Prestige
The over-all effect of loss ac
creditation cited by Friday and
a number of other University
officials was a general loss of
prestige.
The preceding points, cited
by Friday were confirmed by
spokesmen for the Southern
Association of Colleges and
Schools when that organization
presented testimony before the
Speaker Ban Study Commis
sion this summer.
Dr. Emmett Fields, chair
man of the association's Com
mission on Colleges and Uni
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MD Ill-King 122, Taylor 67;
MD IV Powell 22, Lovell 17;
MD V Hedman unopposed;
MD VII Thrift unopposed;
MD VIII Mitchell unoppos
ed; MD X Branch unopposed;
MD XI Sheppard 144, Mul-
cahy 133;
MX All a recount, ruuey
245, Sawyer 241.
Students voted for these:
Officers for the freshman,
Woman Student
Is Found Dead
Joan Mae Conrad, 32, a grad
uate student in the School of
Public Health, was found dead
yesterday morning in her room
at 310 West University Drive.
A native of Clifton Heights,
Pa., Miss Conrad was found in
her bed by Mr. and Mrs.
Harold Weaver, the owners of
the house in which she room
ed. The cause of her death was
not known, but police said an
autopsy is underway. How
ever, Campus Security Chief
Arthur Beaumont said there
was "no suspicion" other than
national death.
Last seen at 9 p.m. Sunday
night, her clothes had been
laid out for the next day,
Beaumont said. She had com
plained of chest pains last
week, according to police.
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licity Committee members will give away free fortune cookies
in Chase, Lenoir and Y-Court. But these aren't Chinese fortune
cookies they're French fortune cookies. Inside each cookie
is an ad message for a French cabaret program called "La
Contrescarpe." The performance, to be held in Memorial Hall
on Wednesday, Nov. 17, is free to students.
versities, and Gordon Sweet,
acting secretary of the Com
mission, presented the asso
ciation's case.
Fields contended that the de
cision of who can and who
cannot speak on a campus
should be left to the "govern
ing boards." He further noted
that the respective board of
trustees should be "as sensi
tive to feelings (in the state)
as it can be, but must, by
standards of the Southern As
sociation, be finally responsi
ble." Warning that accreditation
was actually jeopardized by
the ban law. Fields noted that
a final decision on the status
of North Carolina institutions
would have to be made bv the
association's 54-member "dele
gate assembly.
During Fields' appearance
before the Speaker Ban Study
Commission, he was asked by
the Commission Chairman Da
vid Britt if the "action of the
commission (on colleges and
universities) was precipitated
by people in North Carolina."
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Cancel Rooms
Occupants of men's resi
dence halls who do not want
a room for the spring semester
must notify housemasters by
Monday or they will be charged
for next semester's rent. Fail
are to cancel may result in a
minimum charge of $10.
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sophomore and junior classes.
Vacancies on the Men's
and Women's Councils, the
highest student courts at the
University.
A controversial constitu
tional referendum which would
allow the student body presi-
dent to aDDoint the student
body secretary.
"The vote was much larger
than 1 expected," Elections
Board Chairman Alvin Tyndall
said.
Estimates of the size of the
vote were obtained by study
ing the demands for extra bal
lots made by campus pre
cincts, according to Tyndali.
Final tabulation of tne vote
was not completed until after
10 p.m. yesterday.
"Our results indicate mostly
freshmen and juniors voted
during the lections," Tyndall
said.
Friday Meets
With Faculty
President of the Consolidated
University William Friday met
with faculty and administra
tors Monday in executive ses
sion to discuss possible action
the University may take if the
Speaker Ban is amended.
The closed meeting was held
so Friday could give his inter
pretations of recommendations
by the Speaker Ban Study
Commission.
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