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Em Our Opinion . . .
"Nothing Concrete, Little
Students Angered
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The value of the recent Reids
ville Conference billed as a time
for student-faculty study of the
student's role in University policy
making is questionable.
The Daily Tar Heel supports
the idea that students should have
a voice in making many of the de
cisions that so directly affect
them.
We would like to see a student
representative on such committees
as the Buildings and Grounds
Committee and the Faculty Com
mittee on Student Discipline. We
agree with those backing the con
ference that there are weaknesses
in the University curriculum
which student ideas and opinions
could help correct.
But we doubt that the weekend
at the Betsy-Jeff-Penn Four H Cen
ter did much toward the accom
plishment of these goals.
Most of the students participat
ing were ill-prepared to do so. On
ly a few of the conference's or
ganizers had any real knowledge
as to what would be discussed,
and, therefore, only this small
core of students had given any
thought to the matter at hand and
were prepared to express any clear
opinions.
The first day's discussion
group meetings and panel discus
sion left most of the participants
encouraged about the conference.
It appeared that everyone was
gradually coming to grasp the idea
of the problems with which the
conference should concern itself,
m Reidsville
and it looked like the next day's
sessions might produce some
guidelines for workable solutions
to these problems.
The second day, however, was
wasted on a "Case Policy Prob
lem" concerning the University
policy dealing with the consump
tion of alcoholic beverages on
campus.
So, instead of concerning them
selves with the general concept of
student participation in policy
making, and instead of trying to
decide how student opinions might
most effectively be introduced into
the University's decision-making
machine, the students and faculty
members spent Sunday morning
playing the role of committee
members who had to decide
whether or not to remove the print
ed cards which bear the drinking
rule from the doors of residence
halls.
Perhaps some good will come
out of it all. Perhaps enough en
thusiasm was generated in the
souls of some of those attending
the conference to keep them press
ing the issue until a favorable sit
uation is realized.
But, then, we believe just as
much good could have been ac
complished in a conference room
somewhere on campus.
Student Body President Bob
Powell lists academic reform as
one of his top priority goals this
year. But if the Reidsville Confer
ence is any indication of how suc
cessful his work in this area is go
ing to be, the future isn't too
bright.
D
an Moore's Claim To Fame
Durham Morning Herald
Evaluation of the Dan Moore
administration will be a matter
for historians to write when the
full record can be placed on the
table for an objective study in the
light of time. What the score will
total remains for history to decide.
Dan Moore may, or may not,
be written into history for endeav
ors in education, in peacemaking,
or in statesmanship. But at least
one achievement will stand as a
monument: Dan Moore, the gov
ernor who changed the color of
the auto license tag.
That accomplishment will be
reflected on every North Carolina
motor vehicle when tag-change
time arrives. For the green on sil
ver tag, replacing the monotonous
orange-black, black-orange switch
from year to year, will shine as a
Issues From Back Issues
Issues that made the news in
The Daily Tar Heel on this date
five, 10 and 15 years ago.
Oct. 11, 1961
To alleviate library congestion
and to provide better study condi
tions, a number of classrooms are
being left open at night for stu
dent use, according to Tony Har
rington chairman of the Student
Government Campus Affairs
Board.
Oct. 11, 1956
The men in Old West Dorm are
reportedly unhappy.
Very unhappy, in fact, their
president says.
Why? It seems that the girls on
campus fail to walk by the dorm,
President Teddy Jones says!
Oct. 11,1951
Carolina, the grandfather of all
state universities will be 158 years
old tomorrow. Everyone is invit
ed to the birthday party.
The colorful pageantry to be
presented at 10:50 in the south
court of South Building, will com
memorate the corner stone laying
of Old East, the oldest building on
the campus.
safety reminder as well as a new
look for motorists weary of the
old color scheme.
Governor Moore, hopefullv,
might press the issue for everlast
ing fame a license tag stamped
in the state's outline with a Va
riety Vacationland slogan for ad
vertising mileage.
Thought For Today
High school is where you find
out how much you know; college
is where you find out how much
you don't know.
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A Day
The Reidsville Conference on
the student's role in Univer
sity decision making conclud
ed last Sunday on a note of
cautious optimism from Stu
dent Government leaders.
Thirty students and thirty
faculty members and admin
istrators participated in about
15 hours . of concentrated dis
cussion, both in small groups
and in plenary sessions, and
they couldn't help but get
some idea of what their com
Danions were thinking about.
This was pre
cisely the mai-
or goal of the
conference as
expressed by
Student Body
President Bob
Powell. The stu
dents participa
ing had some
general gripes
afcout the Uni
versity and they needed a ve
hicle to get the University
power structure taking about
these problems.
.The patterns of the discus
sions may have been varied,
but initially they were con
cerned with how much of a
role the students' representa
tives should play in rule and
policy formulation by certain
faculty and administrative
committees.
The reactions of the profes
sors and administrators were
most revealing. Administra,
tors, from Chancellor Sitter-
4 Study
Im Leftist
ST. LOUIS (CPS) - Five
'New Left" organizations
have banded together at
Washington University, with
each group specializing in a
different cause.
University reform will be
handled by Students for a
Democratic Society, the
group revealed. SDS will
work for a greater student
voice in making the decisions
which affect them.
The Friends of the Student
Nonviolent Coordinating Com
mittee will tackle civil rights
work in the St. Louis area.
Alternatives to U. S. "im
perialist foreign policy" will
be presented by the Student
Peace Union.
A local group, WAGE, will
continue its efforts to get the
University to divert some of
the funds it now uses to study
and battle poverty in the sur
rounding area to paying its
employees higher salaries.
In cleanup position, the
W. E. B. DuBois Club, it is
said, intends to continue to
present radical views and so
cialist thoughts to the campus.
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son and his assistants to Dean
of Student Affairs C. O. Cath
,ey, gave indications .that
they would be most resistant
to changes in the University's
structure. They were support
ed by the senior faculty mem
bers, who very frequently hold
down administrative jobs in
their departments.; , . , . r i
Those who seemed most im
pressed with the students
ideas were the younger facul
ty members, who in this case
were usually in their 40's.
Maybe the older men who had
weathered all the storms and
dealt with the system for years
felt the necessity to defend it.
The arguments, however,
were all fairly logical on all
sides, and only rarely did any
one play the role of the dog
matist. On the key and all - impor
tant subject of education re
form, which basically had pre
cipitated the entire evaluation
of the student's role in the
University, the faculty mem
bers and administrator seem
ed interested.
One student after another at
tempted to let his elders know
that there are many students
on this campus who want to
express their opinion in class
on an academic subject just
as much as the professor does.
The old system of spoon
feeding may be perfect for
those who choose not to think,
but all too many students are
having their creative thought
processes stifled by the tradi
tional methods.
The professors countered
with another important point.
In order to establish an ideal
classroom situation, the pro
fessor would meet three times
a week with about 10 students
to discuss a particular sub
ject. With the given resources and
manpower of the University,
this is impossible. Professors
Scott and Sloan of the Politi
cal Science and Art Depart
ments ' respectively, advocated
the use of modern electronic
devices and closed - circuit
television to increase the pro
fessor's audience and time so
that he might be free to meet
with small groups of students
at least once a week.
All the professors favor per
sonalized education for those
capable of it, but, as Dr. David
Lapkin pointed out, the strain
this would place on the edu
cation industry would be too
great.
As for the subject of curri
culum changes and freedom
of choice in course planning,
the faculty and administration
leaders could make no com
mitments. They weren't press
ed for any, anyway. The stu
dent proposals were there as
"advisements."
Some were quick to say that
most departments would be
willing and able to set up at
least one course a semester
that was the product of stu
dent suggestion.
The professors also pointed
out that any student who
comes to the University can
choose any "major" he wants,
of whatever specialty or de
partmental crossection, provid
ed he develops a list of the
courses he wishes to take and
gets them approved by the ad
ministration. JJndes this litile
; known plain, 'Fstudent can by
pass all the "required cours
es and electives of the Gen
eral College.
It's amazing so few have
tried this system. The lack of
interest may be attributed to
ignorance of the program's ex
istence. The entire conference was
characterized by this give and
take, the kind that is so dread
fully lacking in the Chapel
Hill classroom. At the din
ner table, in the discussion
group and over coffee, pro
fessors and students were roll
ing up their sleeves and lett
ing down their hair about a
good many problems.
There were, however, some
who left the sylvan isolation
of Reidsville with many sad
doubts about the ultimate suc
cess of the weekend.
In the cool, bright air Sun
day morning, Dr. William
Koch snapped the inevitable
chewing gum in his mouth and
shuffled informally but briskly
toward the dining hall.
His intent eyes, those eyes
that make you think he is just
an uncomplicated farm boy
who somehow had been trans
formed into a trained botanist,
swept over the nearby lake
to the forest beyond.
"You know," He said. "We
must be in a different ther
mal line up here. There's a
lot more color in the leaves
here now than there is in Cha
pel Hill."
The minds of the scholars
too, had been a deciduous
splendor, red - gold and yel
low. For one brief day in the
wilderness, the understanding
and individuality had been
nearly profound.
In Chapel Hill, though, it
may be different, in buildings
of established brick bordered
by a uniformity of green, they
take up old mantles.
We can only hope that the
quiescent mists of the past
will be swept away by a new
spirit of communication, the
spirit of Reidsville.
y Phone System
The experience was just like being stopped by a
cop when you didn't have your driver's license. You
felt uneasy.
My roommate and I, while perfectly sober, were
calling up the operator pleading with her to tell us
our own phone number.
"I'm sorry, sir, you'll have to call back later,"
she said. "I have no way of finding that out now."
Alas, in an age when many complain nobody
knows their names, the operator didn't even know
our number!
Finally, Information was able to help us find our
identity, but we never would have gotten even that
far if one day I hadn't wistfully picked up the receiver
and listened for a dial tone. Several weeks after our
phone had been hooked up at the company switch
board, we still hadn't been officially informed that
the black box was operational.
Probably, in fact, we shall not be so informed
until the bill comes.
Our experience is typical.
We are victims of Chapel Hill's shoddy telephone
service.
Brag the phone company does about its direct
long distance dialing. Brag it does about the toll-free
University connections with Charlotte, Raleigh and
Greensboro.
But what good are connections with Charlotte or
even with Australia if you can't carry on a conversa
tion with your friend across the street without static
or assorted pops and crackles?
Nevertheless, it is with long distance calls that the
Chapel Hill phone company has its real problems.
For one thing, privacy at times is nonexistent.
Due to "cross talk," one sometimes can pick up a
phone, dial a long distance call, and while the other
party isn't talking, hear a boss firing his employee,
a wife nagging her husband or a student nervously
calling up a girl for a date.
Federal Communications Commission regulations
prohibit disclosure of the contents of telephone conver
sations without permission of the persons making
them.
But tell that to people like the newspaper ac
quaintance of mine who gleefully disclosed the inti
mate content of a long distance dialogue between a
Carolina freshman and a girl in Greensboro. In fact,
not only had this guy listened to the conversation, he
had also entered it; finding that the Carolina fresh
man had trouble getting up the guts to ask the girl
out, the eavesdropping stranger said, "Do it." And
the bov did., '
J, Of course, how , can youeVen l)e "a victim' oflong
'distance eavesdropping when you might have trouble
getting your calls put through in the first place? You
might find you'll have to wait five minutes for the
operator to answer.
Like the static and most other technical difficul
ties, that isn't the operator's fault. When she takes
five minutes to get around to handling your call, it's
probably because she's so overworked.
No, it isn't the operator's fault; it is the fault of
the company which apparently has not hired enough
personnel or installed enough equipment to handle
the message load.
Moreover, quite likely many of the messages
from the Chapel Hill area are going to Durham, 10
miles away. Real long distance!
This, perhaps, is the price we pay for having an
independent phone company.
Finishing today's column, I'm about to call my
editor to tell him I'm bringing it over.
". . .Hello, John?. . .Yeah, you see I'm not ex
aggerating a bit."
Just as it does when 12,000 other UNC students
use it, the phone is crackling with static.
LETTERS
The Daily Tar Heel ac
cepts all letters to the ed
itor for publication provid
ed they are typed and double-spaced.
We reserve the
right to edit for libelous
statements.
Grades No Measure
Of Success In Life
(CPS) There seems to be no direct relationship
between high grades in college and professional suc
cess in later life, two recent studies indicate.
Dr. Eli Ginzberg, a New York researcher, studied
a group of Columbia University graduate students
who had won fellowships to the school between 1944
and 1950. Ginzberg's task was to find out how success
ful the 342 students had become 14 years after they
completed their fellowships.
The findings showed students who had graduated
from college with honors, who had won scholastic
medals or who had been elected to Phi Beta Kappa
were more likely to be in the "lower professional
performance levels" than students who had not dis
tinguished themselves while in college.
In another survey, a team of University of Utah
professors found there is almost no relationship be
tween the grades a medical student gets and his later
performance.
There are numerous theories attempting to ex
plain these surprising findings. The most common
one affirms that the over-emphasis on grades which
begins when a student is in junior high school and
continues throughout his academic career tends to
destroy interest in learning for its own sake.
John Holt, an educator and author of "Why
Children Fail," observes that current school methods
destroy love of learning by encouraging students to
work for petty rewards names on honor rolls, gold
stars, for the "ignoble satisfaction of feeling they are
better than someone else."