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""'"M' r w- j ii" "Tr " I m u r (J rii" "T" hi ""Y' lm '"'H j- jiriiiMyjjiiaMiMM.i . n mni g n- B -jpK,- ( M- - Kn-"aIj,rM M W - mimii " iiH-iii'JTaWM 1 roriii'iiiWWniiialMd w iii irlMWliy' ' "' i ti mufti M , if niifr " 'rnmj rr ilir-niiir"f'f liiWTnj " i . ,lM -vwtqau iui flip'" Jd' "WMMiil 1 1 1 1 41- "T """-'Wi'Tni 1 j.- nrWwST1" W . Wednesday, May 3, 1967 Page 2 THE DAILY TAR HEEL As We See It Tonight's Vietnam In The Mail Tern Questions For SeereMry Musk ebate: B A Big Chance To Learn A lot of people say a lot of things about the war in Vietnam. Some say bomb, kill, win. Some say leave, apologize, get out now. Some know what they're talking about. And two of those who know what they're talking about will butt heads in Hill Hall at 8 p.m. tonight. They are Daniel I. David son and Allard K. Lowenstein. Davidson will debate Lowen stein on the issue of whether the United States is justified in being in Vietnam. Davidson works as special assistant to William Bun dy, the Assistant Secretary of State for East Asian and Pacific Affairs. He will say the U.S. is doing the right thing. Lowenstein used to work as a foreign policy advisor to Vice President Hubert Humphrey. He will say the U. S. is doing the wrong thing. Both will walk onto the stage of Hill Hall armed with the facts to back up their cases. Both men have made in-person tours of Viet nam and will speak on first-hand knowledge of what the war is do ing to that country. Morrison's Morrison College is making a big push to extend the women's visitation agreement to allow co eds on the upper floor social rooms seven days a week frm noon until closing hours. Morrison's Governor Parker Hudson drew up a long proposal stating why the social rooms should be changed from Area . 3 ., j to Area 1 of the Women's Visita- ? tion Agreement, and then met with members of the deciding board for a couple of hours Fri day afternoon to see how his pro- - posal was received. As of late Tuesday afternoon, Assistant Dean of Men Fred Schroeder said "no decision has yet been made, either bffically or unofficially." But Thursday night, there will ; be a reception in the Cannon House social r o o m for Dean of Women Katherine Carmichael and other , administrators and faculty members to show them just how : ready these "dorm party rooms" are to have women students in : them. The Cannon house lounge was a particularly good choice of exhi bition rooms, for it has recently been decorated and furnished complete with sofas, rugs, lamps, end tables, paintings, et. al. And entirely with the resident's money, which they voted to spend on the furnishings. There are two major objections to the extension, one voiced open ly and the other mentioned among administrators only with quick glances and understanding nods. The expressed reason is that men really don't want to have women up there in their social rooms, regardless what the stu dents' elected college leaders say. Men students want a place where they can be men and not have to worry about coeds' presence. It seems obvious, however, that actions such as social room deco ration imply that men do indeed want coeds there. ' " Cannon House is by no means atypical of Morrison houses. Since the idea of the possibility of coeds' being allowed upstairs first came to mind, house meetings have picked up tremendously. Enthusi asm has mounted and decoration plans are being laid on almost every floor. Since the idea came to light, students have been thinking of ways to turn the house lounges into places to have a study date, a place to play cards, or, in Hud son's, words, "somewhere where yoiuan meet coeds as people" to sit down and talk with them and enjoy spending a few minutes Both are youthful, energetic, bright and articulate. Each will .have much to say for his side of the question and will say it well. Both men even though they disagree know what they're talk ing about. Which brings us to the purpose of this debate: it's a preliminary bout before the Vietnam Referen dum to be held Thursday, May 11. The referendum will attempt to gauge student opinion and let everybody see just what UNC thinks about the war in Vietnam. It will give an equal voice to every student on this campus who takes the trouble to vote, fairly testing the validity of an earlier statement that there is a growing concern among American college youth with the posture of their na tion in Vietnam. But if opinion is going to be ac curately measured, it must be in telligent opinion. And the only way to learn what . this whole thing in Vietnam is about is to seek the answers from both sides. Tonight, those answers will be offered. Big Push with a member of the fair sex without the feeling that every coed on campus has to be a prospec tive date. The whole idea is to have some place where young people of both sexes can meet and enjoy each other's company without having to divide up into dating pairs. And this leads naturally into the ather objection of the admin istration and its obvious refuta tion, i "When coeds get up onto the living floors; well., .the men's rooms are right there close by. . . and a couple of coeds might stray. . .and well, you know." The whole purpose of the pro posed agreement is to allow men to get to know coeds on bases oth er than as prospective partners. Surely it can and will be seen by the members of the visitation board that the proposal does nothing to promote an air of pro miscuity. Rather, it will create a badly needed feeling of ease and relaxation between the sexes in social contact. Bill Amlong; Editor Tom Clark, Business Manager Lytt Stamps, Managing Editor John Askew Ad. Mgr. Peter Harris, Stev Knowlton . Associate Editr Don Campbell News Editor Carol Wonsavage ... Feature Ed. Jim Fields . .. .. Sports Editor Owen Davis .... Asst. Spts. Ed. Wayne Hurder Copy Editor Jock Lauterer Photo Editor Bruce Strauch Cartoonist Mike McGowan, Steve Adams .. ; ' Photographers Steve Knowlton, Hunter George, Karen Freeman, Donna Reifsni der, Sandy Lord, Joe Ritok, Joe Coltrane, Penny Raynor, Joe. Sanders, Julie Parker, Mar. v Lyn Field, Ernest Robl, Penny Satisky. The Daily Tar Heel is the official news publication of the University of North Carolina and is published by students daily except Mondays, . ex amination periods and vacations. . Second class postage paid at the Post Office in Chapel Hill, N. C. Subscription rates: $4.50 per semes ter; $3 per year. Printed by the Chapel Hill Publishing Co., Inc., 501 W. Franklin St., Chapel Hill, N. C. To The Editor: At a recent speech by Dean Rusk, the members of the Cornell chapter of Students for a Democratic Society pre pared a list of questions that they felt needed answering. Rusk, of course, did not answer them. Read them and try to formulate your -own answers. 1) The President, Secretary Rusk, and other officials have consistently told us that we are bombing only mili tary targets roads, bridges, supply and oil depots and that the destruc tion of civilian lives in North Vietnam is only accidental. We would like to believe our government, and we have even tried to believe that the third largest city in North Vietnam, Nam Dinh, may have been only accidentally destroyed. But Mr. Salisbury has re cently written that he has been shown evidence that anti-personnel bombs of American make have been dropped on North Vietnam. Mrs. Grif fith (another recent visitor to Hanoi) even showed us an element of these bombs which do absolutely no damage to military targets and can destroy only the living. If we do not wish to wantonly destroy human beings then Victory Village Board of Whats? Dick Levy East Carolina - College Mas Inferiority Bent Consolidated University status for ECC has gotten an unfortunate boost from Governor Moore. Unfortunate because the main idea behind the movement is educational populism. Every child, so the argu ment goes, not just the smart ones, must have a University education, (i.e. diploma) No matter that substandard PHD's would be turned out, or that the value of a UNC diploma would be lowered. No child would have to feel bad be cause he couldn't go to a University. To be blunt we would be giving university degrees to people who don't deserve them; if they did deserve de grees they would be at Carolina, State, or WC already. The argument that ECC is as good as some universities proves only that there are poor universities already. More important, it ignores the con cept of varying levels of educational institutions to fill varying needs. Uni versities are established for one group of students, colleges for a second, broader group, and technical schools for a third. . Hence, were ECC to be a univer why do we use weapons which do nothing else? 2) It has been frequently stated that we are defending the South Vietna mese, who are victims of aggression from the North. At the same time, it has been also stated that our greatest problem is the pacification of rural areas. But if the South Vietnamese are with us and under attack from the North, then why do we have to pacify a friendly population? If . one believes that the Vietnamese peasants are ter rorized into supporting the Vietcong, the problem should then be one of driv ing out the Vietcong militarily and es tablishing law and order. But why then do we have to "win the hearts and minds" of people who are pre sumably our friends? 3) We often hear of the accidental destruction of "friendly" villages in South Vietnam. We also know from of ficial testimony that at least 25 per cent of South Vietnamese villages are under Vietcong control. Does this mean that we bomb the unfriendly villagers . un-accidentally? 4) According to official American figures, the Vietcong killed 8,882 civi- ! sity (anonymously called ECTU or UNC-GV, no doubt), a hierarchy would still exist, with ECC on bottom. What ECC is really fighting for, then, is a name. This reflects non in stitutional pride, but an institutional inferiority complex. The same is true of any institution embarrassed at what it is, whether it . be Western Carolina College or Guil ford Technical School. To attempt to alter the carefully es tablished balance of our state's higher education system is to hurt those thou sands of students for whom our col leges were intended, while creating an inferior new university, based not on need but on injured egos. Everyone loses in such a set-up. All because of a name and because of the vanity of Leo Jenkins, Robert Morgan and their ilk. Let them instead perform a service by improving the quality of their col lege and thus offering a better educa tion in the best American tradition to our average students. But we cannot allow them to tamper with a far older and nobler concept: that of the University. lians and kidnapped 33.SS2 between 1961 and the beginning of 1966. We would like an estimate of how many civilians have been killed by our napalm, artillery, and bombing raids. If such an estimate is not available, we would like to know why we nave not tried to estimate the damage we have done to the Vietnamese people in our effort to defend their freedom. In the most computerized war in history, we must surely have the means to count not only Vietcong atrocities, but , also the casualties of our own good intentions. 5) Our news media have given us ample proof that the South Vietnamese government mistreats their prisoners -of war. We have seen photographs and television shots of prisoners being tor tured and often killed in the presence of American military advisors. Yet we continue the practice of transferring prisoners taken by U. S. ground forces to the South Vietnamese government. Is this practice of transferring prison ers to an ally who tortures them in accord with our responsibilities under the Geneva Convention (Article 21) on the treatment of prisoners of war? 6) We are told that large parts of South Vietnam are included in Free Strike Zones. Could Mr. Rusk explain what this term means and whether or not some of these Free Strike Zones are populated? If there are some popu lated areas among the Free Strike Zones, are we not conducting indis criminate attacks on the civilian popu lation in these areas? 7) In underdeveloped countries which were under colonial rule, tradi tional institutions have eroded and modern institutions such as constitu tions and parliaments have not yet tak en deep roots. As a result, the legiti macy of a regime, comes from its na tionalist heroes and martyrs. So it is a Gandhi, a Nehru, a Bolivar, a Marti, Mental Health Problem Battled At Dorm Level By MIKE McGEE Last fall the Student Government ' set up a Mental Health Committee to study the problem of student stress and make recommendations for improve ments within the system. The commit tee was disbanded after Christmas be cause of a lack of participation and, evidently, a lack of interest. Being but a cog in the machinery, I, a member, could not stop it from folding. But I intend to agitate for the reestablishment of the group next fall and a kindling of student interest in the idea. Eric van Loon has stated that there will be a Mental Health Committee next fall, so now all we need is for some students to get worked up over the concept, and to do some manual labor to make it succeed. The committee is designed to collect ideas from all the students suggesting why they are under unnecessary stress, then publish a report suggesting changes which might be made in instruction, ad ministration, living conditions, etc, which could alleviate stress,. Two suicides in one year on our campus indicates that at least a few persons are pushed be yond their limits. We do not mean to suggest that stu dents should be relieved of all com petitive social and academic pressure. The premise is that a few of the stress es built into the system might be elim inated or reduced if they are found to be defective or not essential to the operation of the system. I am the proud possesor of the notes collected during last fall's sporadic com mittee work. The ideas, even in rough form, seem to have some relevance, so I'll go over a few of them adding some of my own observations. In every dorm there are a few stu dents who don't seem to fit well into dorm life, or are making poor grades, or whose social life is nil. Many are freshmen, many are "introverts". These, not the all-round Joe College type, are the persons under the greatest stress. In present practice this person just plugs along the best way he can, some times flunking out, sometimes moving slowly into things, sometimes remain ing on the borderline. What to do? A group spirit is need ed to supplement the present hit-or-miss social relations within a dormi tory. To get this effect, there must be some organization. The logical person to oversee such an operation would be the resident ad visor. He should be given some respon sibility for seeing that each person un der his charge participates in college activities and in donn life. It doesn't take a degree in psychology to note who is doing very well and who is doing very badly. , Of course he can't do it all him self. But he can enlist the aid of the active persons in the dorm, the leaders and a Washington who command the love and loyalty of a population. The Vietnamese fought a long war of in dependence against French Colonial ism. I wou!d expect that the leaders of this nationalist struggle would com mand the loyalty of the people. In this light, who are the Washington, Gand: his, etc. of Vietnam's struggle for inr dependence? What side were our cur rent allies, Thieu and Ky, on? 8) Until our decision to bomb in North Vietnam, nations fighting against guerrillas had desisted from attacking the guerrilla's foreign sanctuary. Ai bania and Yugoslavia were not bomb ed during the guerrilla war in Greece: The British did not bomb the Chinese for aiding the Malayan Communists and so on. When the French bombed the Tunisian village of Saluet Side Youssef where the Algerian rebel army was openly in training, everyone, including President Kennedy, criticized the French for breaking the accepted norm of respecting a guerrilla sanctuary. France desisted, and Saluet Sidi be came an isolated incident. We are the first country to have broken this inter national practice. The United States Is a great power whose example is likejy to set a precedent in international prac tice. If we acknowledge the rights of other nations to observe the same prac tice which we have followed in bomb ing North Vietnam, then do we recog nize the right of Portugal to attack those countries of Africa which are aiding the guerrillas in Mozambique? Or that of Nasser to invade Saudi Ara bia for aiding the rebels in Yemen? Or if and when a guerrilla war breaks out in South Africa, that of the white South African regime to bomb Algeria, Tanzania, and other African countries which are training South African guerrillas?, James Kalian Nash Hall to keep him informed about persons who seemed to have problems. He might then assign a Joe College to "look after" the man like the one who seems ill at ease and unfriendly, or who makes poor grades with or without studying a lot, or who talks and acts dejectedly. The result might be a kind of inter personal responsibility developing be tween those who So well and those who do badly. Like, a student who begins behaving strangely is often shunned or just ignored by the rest of the guys on his floor. This man should be zeroed in on. Such a system is admittedly arti fical, and effective only if it is pushed into existence. But it seems to work in some places as in fraternities or sororities. We don't want to make a dorm a fraternity, but some of the same methods of organization apply. We are all Carolina students, so we should try to help one another. If we don't, who will? Taking some time oat to help another student might even bene fit the Joe College who has problems he doesn't talk about. Concerning your self with another's welfare for a while sometimes makes your own troubles seem a little less pressing or monolithic. One student says, "The lack of or iginality here is frightening. At some colleges, students participate in organ ized activities." There is no real chance for many to meet new people on this campus, particularly those of the op posite sex. When you do get a date, there are not many places for the two to go. if you're walking. : The new student union will provide for some a place to go, but still the men's dorms need social rooms open to women, with planned activities. ; How do we get people mixed? Sorne ideas are: (1) Mixers at the guj's dorms, where the girls act as hostesses and don't feel "herded" itno the reis er. (2) More informal classes where everyone feels at home, and knows each other. In small classes each person could get up and introduce himself once. It may sound silly, but I took one class at a college on the west coast where the professor asked everyone to bring to class a paper name-plate for his desk. It helped. (3) Some regular and institutionalized form of contact between UNC-Greensboro students and Carolina students. There is presently 6ne dance in the fall where busloads '. of WC students come here. We could re peat that twice more in a year, and maybe our student government could negotiate with Greensboro to hold open houses or mixers there to which Car olina men would be encouraged to come. As one man says, "Those who are able to take the initiative in righ&Jo social ills aren't doing anything. Tws attitude is bad, nobody wants to w anything. Push it off on others." After all, no major changes can be maae without administration help. ; ft
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