Sunday, August 11,1963 A Love For Lake, Disenchantment With Sanford Integration Is On The Minds Os All By W. H. SCARBOROUGH And J. A. C. DUNN Political polls and straw votes are much like a box of cigars in which a few exploders have been planted. They can burn even and true, and they can soot the face of the unwary pulse taker. A tour of Orange County this past week disclosed a smolder- iog discontent with the political state of things in North Caro- lina on the part of rural voters. If what you hear is true and at all indicative of general feel- ing, the Sanford administration is in serious trouble past the Town limits. So are more taxes, present taxes, the Governor s ‘ quality education program, his racial stand, and racial dem- onstrations in general. By contrast the gubernatorial star of Dr. I. Beverly Lake has risen fast. He was the over- whelming preference of virtual- ly every person who ventured an opinion. Any Republican, and particularly Rep. Charles R. Jonas, would run Lake a fair second. The Weekly’s survey, which covered the bulk of Orange Coun- /• , ..: v. - ..ffußf' I >. -f Jmßn:' ' <#<■ I yj 'Vf > I ■R J - : > fttfl , ijljH John Kirby of NC 54 i..—-—L~.i. Sam Huff of Long Meadow — | ly -j yS’-SKT^MM 4 \* .l&'t ' :yi^ *raßlKlwp .; v 4 |Sp| |||PfP ' ? ' "\',V 'J’< ' L & $P'* r i ||j|p%L apt - Hr lr / ' r tliflllfe' "C IfH i ' Cf ® I»*S*a lltl§i| BRPr / Jp 1 £«H p/H m j 1 f Vy *" jjJSffT xj;? vv k ;;. f IpL 1@ 'Oan3sS*^HK| , '• 3 ;' Madison Cates of Hillsboro ty from the far north, near Mc- Dade, to the Southern border, *- urnw l up some strange pat *erns opinion, Some areas showed a clear preference and open side-taking, In others, people were extreme ]y close-mouthed, especially in *e far north. Some were vehement, some vague. Within the bounds of certain rural neighborhoods, people have not picked their 1964 candidates yet. They seem to be waiting to see who will run. In others the choice is clear and the trenches dug. Specific issues are few and far between, although integration is now first in the minds of every one c! C. Beal at Beal and Till man Grocery Store on the west «dge of Carrboro had not really gathered his thoughts on the sub iect °f the next gubernatorial election. "Haven’t thought that far ahead,” he said. “I don't know. I want to wait until they an nounce. I voted for Lake first, and then I voted for Sanford in the run-off. I guess Sanford’s AVX-f A w iVU'.O ' ’’ V -• A-. V' A . vNv VS VS , A-A aC « '' i ' ASA ' '***. Politics In Rural Orange County done all right. It hasn’t been smooth sailing for him. A lot of folks don’t like the sales tax, but then you have to have some kind of tax. A lot of folks don't pay any tax unless they pay sales tax. “A Republican?” He laughed. “Where would you find a good one? Os course, to get a lot of folks satisfied you’d have to have a Republican candidate. But some folks have been talking about Bennett. I tell you, I wouldn’t have Sanford’s job if you forced me.” On the question of the Ken nedy administration, which Mr. Beal brought up himself, he was more explicit. “This Negro question’s been inching up, and Bobby hasn’t done anything to slow it. I think Kennedy should have left his brother out of it. But I wouldn’t have his job eith er, not for all the money in the world.” LAKE SUPPORT Isaac Morgan, who runs a small general store-filling sta tion about a mile west of Carr boro, said he didn't care about political parties, end hadn’t be gun to think about a new gover nor at all. “I voted for Lake both times, and I’d vote for him again," he said. “We might get a good Re publican candidate, but people around here seem to be talking about Lake. The Republicans have a better chance every year. We might get one." He echoed Mr. Beal on tax es: "Everybody wants less tax es. I used to live on what I pay in taxes now. “So many people are talking about Lake you wonder how Sanford got in —of course, he had money. I don’t know about donas —of course, my vote wouldn’t get him in, anyway. But as far as I’m concerned, it doesn’t matter about the party. I vote for the man. A lot of folks vote the party, and it doesn’t matter to them about the man. You could take a fella from Snow Camp or Butner and run him on the Democratic ticket and a lot of folks would vote for him just because he’s a Democrat. But not me.” A REPUBLICAN SPEAKS Antioch Baptist Church near White Cross the congregation was having a general spruce-up session. Men pushed mowers, women swept paths and pruned bushes. P. B. Lloyd and C. R. Whitfield were resting on a pic nic table amid a thick cloud of sweat bees. “I’m a Republican,” said Mr. Lloyd, and laughed unexpected ly, tilting his straw hat back. "I didn’t vote for Sanford or Lake either time. I voted for Gavin. I think we need a Republican governor. It's good to have a change. If we don't get a change we get too many dictators that’s what I call ’em, anyway. I don’t vote the party, though. I vote for the man.” “That's right,” said Mr. Whit field. “Vote for the man." "You know,” said Mr. Lloyd, languidly brushing away sweat bees, "White Cross has gone Re publican twice. It went Republi can in the last election, and the time before that it went for A1 Smith. People around here are changing. I know a fella 75 years old who’s been a staunch Demo crat all his life, and in the last election he voted Republican.” “We need somebody who can beat Sanford,” said Mr. Whit Charles Stanford of Bingham THE CHAPEL HILL WEEKLY field darkly. “I know he won’t run again, but we need some body who can rise above him. We need a change.” MORE LAKE SUPPORT Sam Huff, a Long Meadow Dairy supervisor, was riding a rural milk route breaking in a new delivery man. “I think I’d vote for Lake,” he said. “If not Lake, I think Jon as is a good man. I think I’d vote for him. I think they’re both smart men, they’ve both got good records. I think the lib erals will split the same way— if their man doesn’t get nomi nated, they’ll swing to someone else.” At the White Cross Service Station, proprietor A. B. Web ster tilted back in a chair be side the front door. Mr. Web ster has bright brown eyes, a deep tan, and an affection for I. Beverly Lake. “Folks around here want a change. In the last election* a fella 73 or 74 years old came in here, a few of the fellas were sittin’ around, and he said, T just did something I never did before in my life.’ Everybody wanted to know what it was. He said, ‘I just voted a straight Republican ticket.’ ” Mr. Webster claims he keeps his mouth shut and listens, do ing little talking. But his opin ion of Governor Sanford and the Kennedy administration is terse and unequivocal: “I think they bought and stole their way in. Kennedy hasn’t done anything for the country. He takes orders from the Pope. The Pope’s run ning the country. “The Democrats are wasting too much money. But then, if we had a Republican adminis tration, it would bust the coun try. Wall Street and the labor unions would tighten down on the money. We’d have another de pression. “But the folks around here want a change. They’re Re publican. We need a two-party system.’* AND MORE FOR LAKE On NC 54 west of White Cross there is a chain of three groc ery store-filling stations all within a mile of one another: Kirby’s, Crawford’s, and Allen’s. They form the nucleus of a little community ranged along the highway. “TH tell you right now what I think,” said John Kirby, rais ing his voice for emphasis. “We’re gonna have a change if I have anything to do with it. I voted for Lake and I'll vote for him again. Jonas? I don't know him. But I’ll vote Republican.” A farmer sitting in a rocking chair in Mr. Kirby’s store add ed, “We'll vote for any damn body, it doesn’t make a damn what party. We vote for the man.” “Everybody I come in contact with, all the way down from Ashevillt,” said Mr. Kirby, ‘they all want a change. I don’t like any part of Sanford, I don’t like anything he’s doing, I don’t want any part of him, and that’s all I have to say.” And it was. / ANTI-SANFORD Down the road 100 yards, Frank Crawford put his feet up on the bench outside his store and said he didn't go in much for politics. “I’ll tell you. I'm 50 years old and I only voted one time in my day. That was for Franklin Delano Roosevelt. If ? dH HHPkm / mßm*' * a*? - 1 - ■■■ gjJ|R|r Small-Talk Gathering At Antioch Baptist Church 1 had nothing to worry me but politics, I'd be all right.” When pressed, however, Mr. Crawford did admit to a certain amount of worry about the po litical situation. “I think I’ll vote next time. I don’t know who. I don’t think Sanford's done such a bad job. We’ve got to have taxes. But I don’t want a man who’s going to spend too much money.” Mr. Crawford’s description of Governor Sanford’s concept of the average man’s ability to shell out money in unlimited quantities was graphic, but un printable. “What we need is a man who will strike a balance between spending too much and spending what’s needed.” But his hope for getting such a man in office is slim. "People cuss this'n, and people cuss that’n, but whoever you get in, he’s not going to make times any better. Times are getting worse all the time.” Lewis Allen, the third man in the chain, said he didn’t know much about politics and hadn't thought much about it. But his opinion of the gubernatorial scene, while superficial, was suc cinct. “Sanford’s supposed to be doing something for the schools and the roads, but in the last ten years I haven't seen so much mess in the schools and the roads ... I can’t find anybody who voted for Sanford. Some body must have, but they all must be ashamed of it.” A LEADER SPEAKS Charles Stanford, patriarch of one of Orange County's leading political families, father of the chairman of the Board of Coun ty Commissioners and himself chairman of the County Bolrd of Education, was cagey. A broad new road is being built past his farm in western Bingham Town ship, and Mr. Charley knows who he has to thank for the road: the Sanford administra tion. So Mr. Charley said he didn’t know much about the gubernatorial election, though he did skirt the edge of an opinion: "‘l'd vote for Lake if it wasn’t ; " "•■V :^\;P7P: :pP.;/-'o'-.:" " ij«f;K f -n-*-£Wh*:>; >J§' ' ' R 'fl f 1 :' 'V' jP ”l>{ '•’',r*‘4S/'ii}; 1 . ,' , 4', R' '*■'’ / 1& ’ ~ "'°», j p.dp■ ■. Isaac Morgan of NC 54 for his followers. He'd be a good man if it wasn't for the people who are supporting him. I don’t know about Bert Bennett. I think JonasTl run, but a man’d be foolish to run for Governor on a Republican ticket if he's already a Congressman.” He turned back to the fence he was working on, and then added, “It's just pitiful if a man’s born a Republican in Orange County and he wants to get anything done.” TOO EARLY TO TELL At the extreme western edge of the County, people seem less sure of their political thinking than people in the White Cross region. They may be more con cerned with a proposed new road in the area than with a proposed new governor. Carson Lloyd, a dairy farmer who lives just' south of Oaks Community, turned off the trac tor with which he was towing a hay rake across a broad mea dow. What were his thoughts on the next gubernatorial race? Mr. Carson chewed a straw thoughtfully. “I don’t know," he said. “I guess Sanford hasn't done too bad a job. It’s just too early to tell. If it could be Lake against Sanford again, I just couldn’t say how I'd vote.” North of Oaks Community, right on the western boundary of Orange County, a Negro com munity is strung out along the Mebatic-Oeks road. A. C. Wade, who runs a small grocery store-filling station, was highly circumspect. “I don’t know. It’s too early to tell." Albert Morrow, a young Negro mill worker, drifted gently across the room and stood nearby, evi dently wanting to be asked his opinion of the coming guberna toriaL election. Given a chance, he said quietly, “I don’t know who I’d vote for, but I know 1 wouldn't vote for Lake." 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