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Congress of ihbU S JOHN RANDOLPH. Our readers, perhaps, recollect the famous Circular of Mr. John Randolph, to his constituents, writ ten at the moment of his depar ture for Europe, in May, last, in which he stated, referring to the Investigation of Ninian Edwards's charges against the Secretary of the Treasury, that it was "at his instance, and not without consider able resistance on the part of a ma jority of the C6m?nittee, that the Secretary had the opportunity giv en him, to file his answer to the ac cusation of Mr. Edwards." This statement was denied by Mr.Web ster in the H. of R. in terms which rather impeached the credit of .Mr. R. The following discussion which took place in the House of Representatives cn the 23d ultimo, refers to this subject: Mr. Randolph rose, and said, th.it a Ietter,addressed by him to his constituents haying become, on the last session of Congress, a subject of animadversion on this floor, he felt it to be due to himself, as well as to his consti tuents, to state to the House, as succinctly as he might, the facts having reference to that occas ion, leaviwrcverv thins like in ference or argument to be de duced by others. I say then, continued Mr. U. that when I entered the room of the commit tee, to whom was referred the 'memorial of Mr. Edwards, on the 29th of April I go by the dates on the Journal there was a naked proposition of an hon orable member before that com mittee, which it is not necessary for me here to recite To that proposition I moved an amend ment, which it is equally unne cessary to recite, when I was informed that a similar proposi tion had been already rejected by the committee; and I then learnt for the first time, that the original proposition consisted of two substantial propositions, the latter of which had been so dis carded, and pointed out the dif ference between mine and that, which was obvious to everyone who would compare the two. That proposition of mine, how ever, not meeting the favor of the committee, I proceeded to surest such considerations as occurred to my mind, why it should be adopted; and, during that discussion, the honorable member from Louisiana, (Mr. Livingston,) joined the com mittee. I stated to him the pro position pending before the committee. He readily coinci ded in opinion with me on the subject, stating his concurrence of opinion in these words: that "he could not see what other course could be resorted to' Then, and not till then, was there a general acquiescence in this proposition: then, and not till then, was my proposition adopted. It is unnecessary for me to say, that in nothing that I have written or said, could I have had reference to the ulteri or decision of the committee; and if any proof were wanting to satisfy the most incredulous, it would be found in the fact, that on theUth of the. ensuing: month as a'ppears on the minutes of the I self in a way better'than any o committee, a proposition was Ws rnnld indjro for him Th-n made by me to lay the minutes of the committee, including this transaction, up to that day, be fore the House. J have no wish to go further into this subject. It was incumbent on me - it "Was mv bonndpn dutv. to t.alr the earliest opportunity to make V; diement to you and to th H?rU!r;1 lm-e availed mv self of thc earliest moment to 4o so. Mr. Livingston, of Louisa-iwith na, said, that the statement of facts which had been matte by the gentleman from Virginia, was precisely correct, according to his (Mr. L's) recollection of what passed in the committee. The misunderstanding on this subject', Mr. L. said, had arisen from a misconstruction of the letter which had been written by the gentleman from Virginia on that occasion. That letter, he must be allowed to say, was so worded as to justify the con struction that a majority of the committee had, with much dif ficulty, been prevailed upon to give the Secretary of the Treas ury an opportunity of being heard. This he undersood to be now disavowed by the gen tleman from Virginia, and the circumstance, which he had stated, of his motion to lay the minutes of proceedings of the committee before the House, convinced Mr. L. that such was not his intention, and he took pleasure in stating .this impres sion. Mr. Owen then observed, that as he was a member of the committee on the memorial of Ninian Edwards, it might be proper in him to take some no tice of the remarks and state ments which had been made by the gentleman from Virginia, (Mr. Randolph). He had some conversation since lie came to this city with other members of the committee, and endeavor ed to bring the facts, which oc curred, to his more distinct re collection; and he believed that the statement now given by theljority consisted '.hat every in- entJeman trom Virginia was, substantially correct. When he! entered the committee room, a proposition, in relation to sub mitting the memorial of Mr. fjd wards to the Secretary of the Treasury might have been the subject of conversation, but he now felt satisfied that that pro position had been disposed of by the committee before the gentleman entered, and that his was a distinct proposition. The conversation, he believed, had relation rather to the manner of submitting the charges in the memorial to the notice of the Secretary, against whom they were directed, than to the meas ure itself, lie thought, (as far u 1.1 position of the gentleman from aaiiwuuuiu ouuci,, urn pro- X. York, f Mr. T.nvlnr n wn t,J submit the entire memorial, and let the Secretary answer such parts of it as it might be proper. But Mr. Owen's own im-r pression, was, that in the then present situation of that officer, it would be improper that all the language of that memorial should be submitted to his eye. It would submit various char ges which were unimportant, but which he might think him self bound to answer; while he might esteem others of two lit tle consequence to be answered, of which .the committee might think differently; and he, there fore, had thought it would be best to specify the particular points which he was expected to answer. To this it was re plied, that if all were submitted, the Secretary would have a fair oonortunitv to Judsre for hi m- it was, and not till then, -that the gentleman from Virginia of fered the proposition to which his published letter seemed to allude.' Mr. Web-steel then rose, ana said, that he had not had occas sion to refresh his recollection of the occurrences alluded to, 'nce the last session, either bv reierence to the minutes of the Committee, or , conversation other members of it. But, that he did not think a material circumstance. All he had now to say was that the address of the honorable member to his con stituents appeared to him, (Mr. V.) and he presumed to others, to convey plainly the idea, that it had been with difficulty that a majority of the committee had been prevailed on by the honor able member to consent that the Secretary of the Treasury should have an opportunity to answer the charges made against him in the memorial of Ninian Ed wards. If he, (Mr. W.) was now to understand that the hon orable member did not mean to convey such an idea, then he was willing to take the gentle man's statement to that effect, and ready, therefore, to say. that what he had observed on a for mer occasion, was said, under a misapprehension of the honora ble member's meaning. But if it had been intended to be repre sented, in the honorable mem ber's letter to his constituents, that a majority of the Commit tee were reluctant, or unwilling, or needed to be prevailed upon, by any efforts of the honorable member, to allow the Secretary an opportunity to answer the charges, then the statement which he (Mr. V.) had former ly made, was not only just, but necessary. lie (Mr. W.) thought then, and still thought, that if the honorable member iniended a reflection on a ma jority of the Committee, it was incumbent on him to be expli- cit to stile of whom that ma- dividual rcnticmaii migni. nave an onooriunitv to answer tor himself. The only matter, therefore, as he (Mr. W.) thought, which called for expla nation, was this, viz. Did the honorable member intend to re present, that a majority of the committee were unwuhmr to give to the Secretary the fullest opportunity to answer the char ges against him? Mr. Randolph 1 have sta ted, as clearly as I could, and 1 could recapitulate, were it ne cessary to trouble the House with it,thc facts as thcyoccurred. Mr. McArtiiur then rose, and said, that he should like to iiinlorcdrif! l'iiin tlio c-. nt ipn:in 1 " - - ,j , V 1 I1" wished to be understood as hav- inS stated that the committee consented, with reluctance, that the charges in the memori al should be submitted to the Secretary, that he might an swer them. If such, said Mr. McA. was his impression, it certainly was not mine. If thc "entieman savs that he did not mean to convey this idea, I am satisfied but, if he says that he did mean to express such a mean ing and to 'pply it to a majority,1 of the committee, I iteny the proposition of the geutlcman. Mr. Floyd, of Virginia, said it would perhaps, be recollected that, at the time the inquiry on this subject was introduced at the close of the last session, he was not in the House he was not present when the gentleman from Massachusctte made his; statement to the House as to what had passed in the com mittee, nor did he know that he had made -such a statement until after he had himself spo ken. At that time he thought he observed some reluctance in that gentleman to answer; but he was persuaded then, as now, that there was some misappre hension. The statement now made by the gentleman from Virginia was a true one. He believed that many supposed the language of the letter he had written to refer to a vote 'of the committeebut his own i i understands of it had always applied it to the general cort versation -which toolc place a mong the members offthe com mittee while in tne committee room. Supposing that, if any thing unpleasant should grow out of what had passed he might himself be referred to he had endeavored to bring up the whole of what occurred to his recollection; he had also had some conversation with other members of the committee, but had net reference to the minutes. He felt assured that there had existed a misappre hension in the exposition of the language of the gentleman from Virginia. The remarks of Mr. Floyd were made in so low a 4 tone of voice, that our reporter lost much of what was said, but the above is believed to be the sub stance of them. Here the conversation ceased. FKIDAY, JANUARY 7, 1825. Lafayette. It appears by a com munication from Mr. Tatnall, a member of Congress from Geor gia, to the Mayor of Savannah, that Gen. Lafayette will not set out on his Southern Tour till after the 4th of March. The legisla tures of Georgia, South Carolina and Vermont, have passed resolu tions inviting the General to their respective states, and appropriated ample funds to meet any expence that may be incurred in his recep tion. Congress. A correspondent of the N. Y. Evening Post, in a letter dated Washington, Dec. 23, states as follows: "The bill granting 5200,000 in money and a township j of land to Gen. Lafayette was read a third time in the Senate by unani mous consent, and is probably by this time a law. It is an act not unworthy the character, and one that must be responsive to "the sen timent of the American people. "It would have been better to have passed the bill without de bate, and such was the expectation and determination of its friends but it is well as it is Those who voted in the minority were gene rally not hostile to the principle of the measure, but, some to the form and some to the amount. A re mark made by the General on this subject is worth recording. Some gentleman was expressing his re gret that there was any minority at all "You are quite mistaken, said he, the minority ai-e right had I been a member of the House I should certainly have voted with them the sum is much mere than I merit it is much too large." "VVe have passed a bill, ayes 11:3, noes 57, authorising the estab lishment of a military post on the North West Coast in the third section we authorize the President, when ht thinks proper, to establish a Port of Entry there also. We do not exactly violate our treaty of 1818 with Great Pritain, by this section but we authorize the Pre sident to do $p, which is about the sam e thing. The Se;iate will how ever correct this as well as some other errors in the bill. South-Carolina and Geor gia. We republish this even- ing matter of ranch pith and moment respecting the two states of South Carolina and Georgia, and not without both apprehension and regret' Tr opinion given by Mr.Virt which puts those states in the wrong, seems to ds unanswera ble, but they are neither of them disposed to accede to it, indeed so far otherwise that they ex hort each other tq persevere ia the course they have adopted Jit: imperiously ..ui.cu upuu to oo so, by the law of self preservation, the rrcat law of nature. What will be the result baflles conjecture' A collision between the states and the general government in. relation to the subject of slave ry has been long foreseen and dreaded. JVeic- York E. Post The verdict has been set z side, and a new trial granted, hi the case of Clarke vs. the Cor poration of Washington, rea. tive to the $100,000 prize in the Grand National Lottery. A slave contest. X slave from the south having abscon ded, was recognized in New York by his master, and the police required to interfere and have him restored to his owner. The usual interference was made, by the abolition societv and colored population, and the slave was brought up on a writ of habeas corpus, before juuVe. Edwards, who went through. tha enquiry patiently, in order to test the point, whether he was a freeman or actually a slave, as contemplated by the act of Con gress. -The colored folks, feel ing great anxiety on the subject, and fearful, from thc testimony before the judge, that the' man would not be liberated, got out ii friendly writ, and Seaman, de puty sheriff, was required to take the man while the examin ation was progressing. Tha h'acks, not knowing the object of the writ, but fearing the con sequences, came to his rescue in great numbers, and while the officer had him by the collar a scuffle ensued, on thc steps in the rear of the city hall, and the officer was dragged from the top to the bottom, was much bruised, and the slave was finally rescued. So much for the force of law in New York! Narrow escape. Mr. John. Ellis, of Mercer. Me. a celebra ted hunter, recently had a dan gerous encounter with a large moose, in the neighborhood or Moose River. When discover ed, the animal took to thc river, and the hunter to his canoe ant! started.in pursuit of him. Ha ving approached within six or eight rods, he fired, and iht ball taking effect, the moose made for thevT shore. Mr.L. having reloaded his gun, pr0 ceeded in search of him. The moose was soon come up wun, and rather unexpectedly. Mr. Ellis had approached within twenty or thirty feet of theani: mal before he discovered him.- He instantly fired; but being somewhat agitated by finding himself so near the moose, mis sed his object, the ball entering a small tree which intervened between them; whreupon the moose immediately made at h:rn with desperate fury, taking hni hpttvfinn bi hnrn. one of W hiCll entered his' clothes near the waistband of the pantaloons m chin, and the other at the small of his back, taking the skin in WbllA in this dar. serous and critical situation, in moose made four or five bounds with him. clearing a rod or more-
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