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w. 1 ft " ' - - Vol. Ifj . RALEIGH, MARCH 16, 18 09i. . No.r2Q. : , kHMrj y, at ntscfrin or Faiett-wiUR-STar, xeak Casso's coaHfck Paux ! - TlUI. JJoLlAir ru AKt'M, PATAflLR HALF . ' VtAKLT l ADfXKCSlVM.E Pireft. 10 Ckxts. J. . -.UNITED SI VTES.. Ccnress.l: 't.iVp?tiX'fBlicounsE. . ;D E BA-tE ' "t Wioik to trik out Uxe.l3th section. . -"''.(ptxTtnvzB.) , ,-. Jt?jjppE.. : Ntr. Spiraker As it is r r diotvery frrquenily to vote in ihr and 1 may be rqualljr unfortunate in r on the present occaioot I risir to bf- .e House some of the reasons which vern m in ihe course I expect to pur ' ' aubjectr V I - voted , against , the a t . proposed- by the gentleman from .v .nia (Mi. Milnor) and I expect "to "1st the amendment now proposed bv !inan from Gtorgla (Mr. Bibb) with ,Vrt(V vote forv ihe;amendnjent of th; iian mm South Carolina (Mr. Willi x :Uidl the'8econd amendment, of th" gen t'i fromr Pcnnsv Ivania (MrifMifncr). J ' vot for the bill tinder consideration, sjre' jt may be o modified as to prevent. f ossibtej the ruin and disgracpof my coun- J? r-nr expert rote flrr this bill for its 'a'r s Vrijf for, I anf totcry,weH pleas, i iv.' system.; byt'I 'have long thought, l.ihin if: thi? j ReveVaacts laying an y.i a all QhsV4't'8iie.Is in the ports ' boars jofllie. United Siatcs are nevet id until we are 4 all pleased with what' tncn'cU a substitute lor the embargo, ltitry vtiii be ruined, tinder the upera f iU rneaKrev whkfi so1 muih resern- Vifl4i'5,J clock it never can Operate as 'niTe F,.c0ercvonp6nlTthe "European 1 f 4'escrjoe$ the'dotlt a most ex ibrmed in all "Its1 parts' but for tlie ,ci'c oji fo i" tit jrx W th eteyei til parjs to e ach v i co- !d hot le puf itj' motion. !Just so fju" e ' , : ,Vf hough its advocates repre ' ' . , . liil macKine-calculated to pre- ' "'"d Interest of the country, "mitytp the i habits jof the A- Uo the present situation of ,-.t, cl,jot be executed to ad van th pdiffer in political sentiment, ' t, ' estly differ, I deem a spirit solately necessary for the ... . ".4 "country. I feel willing to v.enrw ; who differ from me in senti ievf discover a disposition in lor sd O. 'iffAndil think ' it is time K.adjid l.tnat ; j)Ian which will be least , W i : fcoifipn of the American peo cr tli.u;' jt-jjrrBentattVes. tJrider these fesscnvafpect to vote for this bill as . ef aCle-! tJ Jytf&-i embargo system If thj -n(lrtventprpcsed by the gentleman from th, CaroIiJPi rkl Pennsylvania are adopted, JfeV le'ihaj ''derive some benefit from VsystemAhd should it fail in producing ; eip'ected good,1t certainly, will be procluc v2 of lss e'vil thjp the embargo; it will par illy. rCatiSre bar' almost ruined commerce. -dr hmfeyert ntlemen may difft r from me vthis iiibject of cowrnerce, I consider it a St !"citemeit'.;to indusiry ; a source from . tiiVrrcfi'defive, most of their opulence j thepopf ''derive : many of te necessaries e j :andgentlemen all acknowledges it to .at? source: frdhi whith we derive the whole ourfireybnuffo prove th s positions I 1 call the attention ol the House to the com. rtial : prosperity of the nation under the o ratiotv pf the treaty of '94, called JayJs trea .V This 'treaty ha3 been represented as ru ns and disgraceful Such weregthecla-, jrs against iftthat I confess I disapproved . it atur?Jf but under its operation we "were ' iappy and a prosperous people. - By refer, ''jjee to th'e several report$ of the Secretary of Treasury,' I perceive our. customs arising tn imposts sand tonnag during the four ' prior tc the adoption of that treaty, U. I 'fiVHi79"i"txA our lustoms ar,iing S - ' - rv--v-v ' : ' f X " from the tame; source thctfirst four yeara un- ucr uic operauon-ot ta treaty, averaged S 9,720,198, and the last four year, averagtd 12,340,491, and1 our, exports iicrcasei jn the" same proportion and we . encreased as last In individual as national Wealth: Yea. sir, under the operation -of that- treaty, pur larmcrs were toauceU to cultivate the soil," nd their industry wis. rewarded i our. teamen employed , in navigating the ocean, and our canvass whitened every sea. United at home and respected abroad, we held the secood rank among the commercial nations of th earth. But these privilerei', thouch ereatt trifling when compared with such as were to De procured by a new system, and wnvn m i hu, i-ora iiarrowby, the then Bri. tish minister, proposed to renew.-that treaty it was rejected. In 180o a partial oon-im portaiion ac was passed to exclude many artU cles of.-British manufacture from our ports-r- inis was to compel the urtttsh lion tn admit ttie-American eacic td' an eaual narticination in whit gentlemen call the great highway of nauons. nen mis , plan, so promising' in tneory, tailed in practice an embargo was ad ded -this was to compel not only the cavern meut of England, but the enlightened govern- ment ot f ranee to yield to tis m a state otdtff. nified retiremenf, what they refused to grant us whfle pursuing ouf usual course of honest industry. Sir, what Jiis . been the cpnse quehce what have we Pained bv this method ot dignified resistance X I am.c?rtain if the cr.izens of the United States were to be con- -ulted, and were to compare the political bles sings we enjoyed underhe treaty, with this poticical (what shall call it ?) curs; to which ive have been 'exposed under the operation the embargo 'syslrm -they would no hesitate h minute, but would decide in favour of such a treaty. :-';- But We are tol ' by the committee of exteri--ur relations we must have abject and derra- dingsubmission or war with both England and f ranee, or a continuance arra enforcement At thi einbarjro or nreseht RUSDefision of com - .tierce. And as the first cannot reouire anv iidcussion, and the pressure of the embargo is so sensiblv' trlt that the country cannot ot vill not much longer submit to the privations ji this system, gentlemen exclaim, whaOs to oe dme f Has toe nation no honour i maintain. Yes, sir, I hope shef has; I hope we' stilt retain some ol our national honour, but I trust in God we never shall make ai.n. the oning our rights. I shall perhaps be old Wt ave not abandoned our rights ; this system is not an abandonment, but a suspension I Sf .out rights. Be it so, Mr. Speaker, for although I conscientiously consider it "an a1andonmeni of our rights, I believe the advocates of the measure consider it only as a suspension. God grant that their expectations inihis mav be realized ; but I fear it will happen other wise. But gmtlemen exclaim, how are wt to avoid degrading submission ?, I hepe sir. that we shall do it by adopting some other mode of resistance than retirement. I hope, sir, we shal) abandon or modify this system. and resume Utt navigation Or the ocean, and convince the world we do not intend to aban don our rights. I am as anxious to maintain the honour of the nation as anv gentleman on this floor ; but 1 subscribe to the. position, that in an agricul tural and commercial republic, honour and in terest are convertable terms.' I believe, sir, that our honour is our interest, and our Inte rest is our honour. 1 am confirmed in this belief by gentlemen who profess to differ from me upon this subiecr Sir, our actions out weigh our vords, and while genttemen from the south and west, whose constituents are cultivators of the soil, exclaim against a repeal of the embargo as disgraceful-,' - they- sav the duty demanded by the British government must be paid by the growers or produce aud that the carriers will receive full freight and gentlemen from the north and east, whose con stituents, many of them commercial, others sea-firing men, urge the repeal of the embar go, because it deprives their" constituents 'of commercial find nautical profits. These ar guments prove to me that different habits and pursuits produce diversity or sentirner.t but that we all consider honour- and interest con- vertible terro.. f'.I tor one disclaim any share in that honour, which is contrary to our interest nor dp Iwislto' see, our national concert) governed by Jth taws of chivalry, and - see nations, like imprudent individuals, destroying each other without the prospect -of gaining any thing buta premature and inconsi derate death., f y ';: , , -fK. - :f) : But gentlemen enquire do you not prefer --j i--ci - . ' . :: .i war jo uisgrnceiui uurmssion I :t x es Birt 1 do prefer war to submission-ur l ever Wve preferred, and yet prefera cancUdjT atull; and friendly, explanation- , to the honour of dvinsf like Aboer, as a folfleth!'rhey;Ka- sons I am for andther attempt at negoclatioa. And as this atmpt, however hontst and '. sin cere it may be on our part, may fail, I am for adapting some method to unite the American rx-opte.' . And although, this bill, should the amendments proposed by the gentleman from South Carolina,' and the gentleman from Pennsylvania, be adapted, it not just what 1 prefer, for I am decidedJy in favour of repeal, mg the whole- embargo ' and non-impomtion svhtem, and for permitting our merchants to arm in their own defence, if is the best terms r expect tdjgct, and I am for accepting of iu And, should the- attempt at negotiation fail, and it prove, necessary, I wo'u!J then prepar io earnest for-war I would prw'ceed to" vindi cate the horiouf of the nation and rrpe! force by force ! The'n.iir, we shall have nothing to fear. The, br4v but, jieaceable citizens of the United State's, when convinced of the jus tice and necessity bf such a war, will unite as a band of brothrrs, ao tu support' the embar. g party, nor the" federal' party', bill as free Americans to vindkte the honoueof the na tion, and maintain "our. rights, and transmit t posterity the rights and privileges which our lathers lought. and bled, to procure for u. Hut theare not so fond of war as to prefet that conrse, when they understand that these !vilege9 coukl have been secured by a treaty tie.'ievingth'ts to be the desire and the interes of. mv constituents, and bf the majority of the tiiiitos oi every portion or me union, a, am jr pursuing this course -I an for makintr this oiu as perfect as possioie in ortier to satisiy the citizens in evtry:portion of the union.- Some gentlemen represent it as disgraceful to vieia to tne clamours or murmurintrs ot the people But I consider it the dutv of the re presentativeS to repeal ajav whenever', it it known to be enntrarv to the wishes of the'peo- pic. out gentlemen cu us tnis system is not displeasing to the people, that notwithstanding til that has been said upon the subject they u not believe it they do not believe the people disapprove ofUhe embartro,. Sir; unbelief ha ruined many, and 1 do awfully , fear it will be our rum I am certain It will, if .we persist mucn longer in tu 'Ji..' FEBitUAUY, 24. ilr. u. K. Wiiliams moved to strike out ht part oQhe law relating to. non-importation ;.-.t i j. el j- . iu. insert a provision lor uiscnminaiing au. fies. He - rose to rescae-himself froinan inputation of intejiding indirectly to har to th bilU; If U wcrif continued long ther ; ' ' would be no occasion for employing a -com4 .' . . mittee to enquire what disposition h3u!d baa " ' made oF the turptut money io the treasury -' T " f" He was in favour of Mr". WUliama amend- . " t , ment ts tending to increase rere nuej to pro T - , ". mote union and ; secure he Kappines's Vf x4 t i '(' United States. Ir. Slja spoke mure. thaa'. half an hour. - . $ ; J ." -;y "r;1- ' '. jMr. Lyon also spoke against the non-inte r ; coureytem and in faVer vf Mr.' Williams' amendment at some length.' -.Mr.' - Lvbn" watV ' x:' ' opposed to the HJU,' as tending to "destroy-re '."'J - T venue and navigation ;Hecvr had wantttV . a substitute for the etnbargo,one evil for ino ucr i oui ratner man continue me rmoargo he would' takVsuth amodificaMon of this till as that pYepo'sed by Mr. Williaraa," or even tho' bill itself. The former plan tn'ght be ter.1-" tiveDn G. Britain, whilst tha non-iritercourso.-: -X would be vholljr jneflkieBb-'.-, ' "v .' .Mr. Taylor best a poke on the aubject. It ?, ? considered the biir.tipon the table not to havo -the tnerit of resistance j it was submission to 1 V' wade? in the track pointed out by the order lit i-vV " -J council."' And yet gentiemcn saidey wotikl V" 'J' notsubmit. Could' gen demeb .' iodereVvo 'hemsclves as not toVee that thev were1 in fact" "ft4; - '' Uubm'ttting to Oie BritTsh orders . in council f .ft v U was a surrender of the navigSon'dfthei r ' ' wWrld'tp'Gl Britain ; it made heir ttij: t carrier K ofourproduce.v T hat this wa thtr!ect'4ould not be toncealedv Itwas'wbndef'J that,"l'.ko V.r; . Uie" ostrich, hiding its head !?d supiritho ' while bdyiai oiV sightgentf'rpen-h4Vitd(j ; Jt:ij.. thrusttheir headsinto a bunch of brambVs;, nd suppose" thit theyhid"th? effect' J:c;f tlii, J t' -' J system. -'Gentlemen said thatth't wpult hot v'X legalize trade toGreat Britain'uncle'r th'.ii.';::V Jeri n council 'at Itht'sae aathorise a trade wdth herthrough tbVdenbt-l Il ,ht circutMr of the . voyage only .Widtng io Vf oencfit of CT Britain, by ivWg her - th' - & 1 u carriageof our produce. Might not Swedii?-5fer-. an J Spain tpo went a liijtle profit, since mono'U" -poly was the order ofih dayyantllmposelu;-, ; er attempt t maintain our hojiouf bv aban frass the bill by this amendment because he mtenaeu eventually to vote against it. We so lemnly abjured any such an intention. Any member who would at this tfme make such R motion with a view to embarrass the proceed, ings of the House, would deserve a halter. Perceiving that a large majority of this House, was determined to repeal the Embargo and nut to fight, he h id tjfcen induced to offsr to the House that which, to his understanding, ap peared the best plan that had been presented. Mr. V. off red many reasons agxinst the non ntercourse bill amongst others, that, instead of being coercive, it Avould operate as a pre mium to the navigating interest of G. Britain j that two years continuance of it ""would be worth millions to G. Britain ;hat it also in jured the agricultural interest of this country, laying additional obstructions on the salr of its produce that it seemed as though, lest the J v.-,y ouwuiu ucueve uic cinuiirgo was a wise measure, they were about to - pursue the very course which would prevent the peojde from receiving a conviction of its protecting policy Fhe com se'which he proposed would at least prevent this evil, by practically demonstrating to the petple the effect of the orders in coun cil and decrees, which were the causes of the embargo, . , , . ' Mr. S loan regretted that, this deceptive measures was proposed nominally contempla. ting a repeal of the embargo, but whtchbifid produce little bro benefit. Het described the body politic to be labouring under atiis order as an individual with a dreadful cancer. When h beheld the situation of this distress ed country, he felt it his .duty agaiu to address the House, and call their attention to the re medy. Instead of the inveterate , passion for war with the belligerents, which existed in a part of the house, he. recommendetf r another species of war --a war against the' passions, in which though no friend to war, he had no ob-' jec.tion to engage as a volunteer. Heaprreed winj tneN gentleman trpra a. that -if tins hid passed it would be "just what the court ' of Q. Britain would-wish, : Mr. SUjan said he should proceed in iis remafls without 1 any fear pf falling uiider thf late substitute for common Iwiu'fafand ftatiefi'fii& tho' he wgs promised va ! full . suit , of' homespun from jxcad to. foot. bv some heroes b PhilaL delphia, and although he as well accjuainted with the power" and disposition of the.i-xecu- ues at the entrepots illt vfas a grcaobletV' ' CiOfj to this'systera tco'ihat it, cVjld "vpbt , ,o'v1 tv'J mair.taiued ; and hec'aleci pon.tie JXdus ; not to take a position fikeifciBwhic rs might be obliged to abandon -wuhfP . -France and"; England' dould see a' ;.' urselvet that -the svRte tii cohW Wr,t ' '. successors disgrace. well as ourselves that the aystehi could Sot 'oaf maintained f and if they shburd accumulats injuries on bur.headsthe sinews of wareniff -iAJ relaxed, we' should not be ina situation ffec -li i me- all Ad vantages intpth , band0f .tisiCrihi'lst France was deprived - of Siny '. -fny-tj - u- " . . i'!vjjjin'ii .ii.iltT - - w " vAkiujiuu jiifiii ft icni.ri nnrrs iti, . . - -i wouia be severtiy lclt by the planter o tottda e '; fir besides the'joss of imarkjetrsuWapro portion of the crop, ; the trhlttinsrof th-RrVVUli v . - market with so large a-surplus wrvicl idepreci vaiue cntjrmousiy ne caued xtpen gen- . lit-.:! pitmen iii a. at mis nmeto give-amoncfooiy: .to-"- ;, Britain at our own expence, ' 'Desivbua o.- -. -equal,, justice to "both; nations, aibjatdl fight them, and to dp '.'equal iustice WnurycIvoiM vl-? V 1 s a as a measure 'ot . rYia.tance ..-. benefit our Imerchanis'idnrfeUMeii '' '.Mr., rsijoke about halfan hourf and not to follow the very hieandTinVsf ih orders, in councils he wa ojpfsVd it tlieVbk.1' He also ibjectedto the pbrasVoifigv ofje fcU t&t G. Britain, and France; M&:ite& Je&ti dencies." ' Who -was to iudire what hr!..t. - t ;: were dependencies 7 . Wheth-T did the trVni include Holland, Spain. Pbrtuirrdf In retatibn . ; to Mr Williams's am?hdmetil lve xbrisideredl 1 which would .Increase pyr Jenu and byp, -r .... i., .v. nii.vic3v vi-uir-oeiiiiref, . t iuiu ic wctcer inao anv otner svs tem propo would treasury ; -. Mr. Gholson said that thtfhill cm- the1 table w-ijp vas not a favdurite .plin"- witHjhlroV'lidt as 'hiti? should probably, vote r jhe cue it from some of the" Imputations caon it,fT (Messrs. Taylor " and DJ: RJtWtitikitifhi auvocauu uie resolution reported by the cbm-;; .v.-i,i(v.iwimi4. uiuuuBiiiir univcrirr ' - t plan. As to the argunlent that this bill bbert ated to carry into effect thfi i Jorderj Tin council Vt" the same, odjectioti jmieKt m he aainT aiahhe.' "11 be made to theembatgo syste of. which bot; inose- gentlemen weretwnuousuppprtersV-fi This anruihettbeforeXiTd nOeiirh Ha v tt ticturuuiac we suomitlea to tiritmh. taaltnr . .r-r by the" bill, For supposing buf produce to gO- 1 to,.tIi"ehtfepbtj' the M''aV(rjther, 'l- purchasing it puld have to pavn Great Bri tain theta ct our jroducu: deadoeTortbft.v.is cpntirieotnstad orpuirpay way tnereiore -wedtdAOl as.dirtsCtly come tin- . 1 der the .operation, of the orders ' ie cottacil, a 1 by tradingdir ect td Great Britain.7 tVas there fe' H any vmrrican wno wmtid te willing to relume ryJ-fW 4, '..I T I our" usual ; intercourse 2with' th lllfrJvt. . lives of aorne states to scVetn , offender from I while fcl. the1 :blak Catafbgue: of our ji.juriea punishujent. Mx.S..!t yc.tlu abri . , - .-.I t' - ,. "X
