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the fire of ft. America ,hi, mine rp-! , . h.., ... his brav - -r .;:.!,. n::.il ti e cd nt ' h.' id n! a- rax nillm'r h"ro if" im'sketi v ?Vo:;i i. :) ' i , o.s unseen ivance mv f iL-s uud.iuite 1 and : mm .. i " men,' he shoute J as ,.e reach ti: ; !-. o!" the . ij-i: J, he leaped r :r al. I .lime of f " foliOW l!K! s .'( rd th i ditch, an. I tuning, am; ! t tiie n ! ,1-,,'n.il ii.!.-.'h t. t-m.Air-A-'t h s m?n. Ik-Ih Id . . to his r'-ri. but a i:i-lj in in i hi' coiiiany ' ! . l !..,... f !l,,tj ilIimvi I he ha l -s. -allaMtlv led on ul li.e ...ack, had been ' shot .I .ni s h" w:i, ;...:( to Ion tuck from ' . . . . i his diii 'er .us sitaali :!, i.ts twr-rt! was fhiveic l Hi his "n'-j iv a ri!l hii th ; diri t iVii:!' -ir in , ;i i 1 i.i th'? sa ne i:il.U;t s' i r : i r iiii l tli-J par it.jI and i -ve'!d his d au'v we.ipo.i at his brea.it, calm-J occurred, and which has so dangerously eu.hr.. iled lv oh-?rvi.i " rrurrende.- s-l ranker, or I u'.iy p r-, tii? relations of the two countries. Mr. llies ob f nt- e.""" Oliari ied," said the ofli :or, at the 1 jected, unJ the treaty was concluded. do--: In.; rr-iifn . I UKC MM'i''..1!! tiOi:Vcr I 'J t!io ho! ! fellow i:iy ni i:i! '( d sw.-rd, n ut p iss iver iufo th3 American line-.." South st by a yan kee. 7 - i Special J2i?r?rt. SI'rJCH OF MIL C.XhHOlJ.N' On Foreign llclafrons ; ilrlh-red i i the Senate ni M-.mdatj, Jnxv.iry l, 1SW. Mr. Calhoun r.:e a- Mr. liu-hanau to-k Jiis seat. I ris-'; (said Mr. Calhoun) with feelings entirely di:T rent from tbosr of the Senator from P.-nnsl-vania. ile said he n ner listeneJ to any Message with greater satisfaction than the present. 'I fiat n-tiir'i ti is r-vcit.'.l .-'.'h aj-rceao'e .sci.s.: ns in his Lrea.t I hav; he;rd wii!i t!ie m -t pr f.und re - Never did 1 listen ti a d k-iiiii". it wiiii more, Cret melancholy feel'm's, with a singh evcep'iuii the. war oidsngrj from th" simoq iirter a tew years since, agii 7-t ouis of the s jvjr jia members of this !'r,fi- V-Oi i it .! riio I arrived here f-;ai'f Mr. C.) at t!ie b-ginning of sf:j ?ti.:i, t.-.t.. ' r imr :r I : Kill that then vvo.i! i he ;io war. I s" in l-e 1, nianv untavorahie and :i st'd'3 ii !.-ati ms : hot I t!i u 'nt the cause d,:r-r ice between t!:e tvo n;;to:is was ti.o trivial to ternii .ait; s ci-a-! r v. I c till not believe that t.vo grc;.t e i-.ateoel nations, hle-sed G,.vr!iiii"-fs aul lietween i.ilh i' i.i.-titutij i.i v.'Iio n s i m ..iv . '.i ! t igetli :r in ! :..n'.r iced" cti ih exi-ted to muiu ;! sy.i.M i'sy and kin loess, won! 1, a' t lis a v r. ' -t : ' I civi'.iz Uio i, plunge i o a w ir f r a c ois ? s i. iv I -us. v it Is luis i n puesi i), n'itv it!i-r.m !i:ig all I sa v ail hearJ, I ti!i heliev.-J p- :e w-mld be pres-rve l; but the Muis:i ant fie sp 'ec'i of the Saitor from IV.risyiva iia, !i ive di'spelle I th- .lcies:o:i. I will n t u rl ti i';e t pr loM ice w it!i c-rtaiaty war is i:ita i.Ie I, bat I will say, tint if fie rcuiirn ':i 1 1 ti ns ..f t.ie I'reiiJ .it be adopted, it will be almost inevitable. I f-.i ; (s .i 1 Mr. C.) that th ? cxi litioi in which the country is n v placed In been tlie result of a deliberate an-l s'.sL'.nHic policy. lam b mad to sp;a!c rnv s '.r . i.'-. freely. It is dm t my con stitu rits-a'! 1 lie: country to act with p -rllct can-d-r an I trn.n a p sti n in which t'i 'ir interest I- Ex CO i (i .'v involve 1. i -v i : I n t a vnM.e h is il !i' -rat.- y ai:n -.l at 1 11 iert 111 it toe a ir fro n the i:ii?nee;n-nt ; b it i w.ii s iv 'iirr' of tlie c nfi .iversy t tl t!i it, f, en the b'--: re- v:t moment, : i pui -,u ? I is pre t!ie course which t'i ' Frcsi i ;t h ciselv the ore c il-'nt ite 1 to tei:n: b -tween tlie two u iit:s. it h : cr - f eery p.r i d, t give th c- j lion bv vh:.-h t!iu p" . e ;? c preserved, '.vith t;t the least sier. or h ; :r: but be lias i.i f-rre'l f!l (sniJ Mr. (.'.) now p-.nm! it i ' c! .ratio;, s ; h w u:.o! it i.i tion wlilcli might by ;y j.issib,: in op-i i-ijfi i to iiu" - . .in s e conception, the Iir.n .. the i trv au only ' m r-t .. . ! !y ;i. t-.at truth a.i 1 j !-?! e ;:. ty r!i a t'ni- i nr i. I d .! .i'-sit.:te late i a otillict h e i in his j nv. t rovers v a !iree "i e i v t.iiglit be I -e of f ,'iit itioii ... . .ire. I fe-! ' : ; t he-e de euipv a po-i- br constrii'id o ; b it, in my - s of ihe coun- m . t.ie Course . cf in uri ler : t a s:u t, after : :!:. -ut c oimecte.l in r, if war ij-ost c ireful ex i oiniti 'i of t.i : e with this u:i!i:)'py c v.v iver-v co -1, we re tie.: ::t:t'..rs i-.ve partv. S;.orlio r, a- ! f-ar iv; - : t :ie resooi.sibie t , on the eve of a n i source of pi i e e o'ecln.-Miion : but condi e, it wen! t to me have an ! ;i n-ui t n m : v? a;: c :v. that si cred :e'iid lo 'rmn an 1 justice, which I tru-. -.v ill ever be mv !e u . !;r the imiot du'h cull cin-u :ist r cs, v. i! 1 r.i.t permit. I c in-tot fs-ii 1 Mr. C.) hit call hic' tn my re-c-S! -;tio:i the po-it!o.i which I .rci.jii"J twenty-fo-ir veirs since, ;-.- a r.-mb-r of th ' other II iise. We were th.n, tii I f- ir we are ew, on the eve of a war with a grit an! pr.veifi! mtio;. My voice t'e n wis raided for war, because I then believed il.at j isticc, hon r, an I nec .ssify i!e.i:an J-j-.I it Ii 13 n. .' mhtu i.ir p mc.', because t ain u i.J"r the most snle:Mi conviction that by going to war we would sacriiiee justice, Ji mor, n-:d interest. The same motive which then imjelled to war now im pels to peace. I have not (said Mr. C.) tr. r'e this assertion lightly. It is tne result o uinture and deliberate r- dction. It is tnt niv inteation to enter into n i r i.i mir.i!rt examination of that tnlnnpy train of even's. which h '.s brou :ht thecoun'ry to us present s!fli.i- ti-ju hi? I will hr.e.lv I -U-h on a C-.v pr om; . -::t points, b.-'i.u ling with that msr ent. t inate r:e o,. Ct'iti n which seems l-.-uined to tei iuin.rte s. dUas. trotisly for thecouetrv. From the a-; -es-iori of 'he p-e-:nt King, his Mii listr v r.vo-.ve J jise'f flr.. -ab'e to the seMlemorit if our claims. ?t .'" ' ! scarcely he otlrrrwis'?. Tiie Ki i" had j 1st l)e.-:i tithe throne, nn It a revolution g-nizing in pry.d :r i-npulses, which could n .t hut dispis tiiai fivorably towards us. 1j ifivctte, at lie time, p -s'-ssed ir.e-h power and i'll'i.ic", L ui . i 'nil v. ci k.i i v m l bad grnt v co;tn -ite I to elevate iti - t - his - -son strfio i. i;;.- ;e-l!rgs r .. .eel s.'d.y ' iv v i- i . i! . f i . . .- I : . r . . iii .:, tli Ministry j all this f inn!:'' iricun were fearod of cone' -lin'-e J tin fill n't ns ; tiiev i . t:e of ii lenviitv were, to tir ! . ?iy. Tbrtv o'rea 1 " h v o lious -ill trea ci tire Fieic!i nation, and hnw di hcult it won; I be to bring the Cham bers to aire: to links an nnpronri di m to carry a treaty of in h;-.i uty into etf ci, .'v;i with or coun try. V,' fit the," i nnress! , ,s, tliey fi i iklv staled t.j Mr. Rives, our Mi-Uter, that tin ddhVultv wris not with th-n, b it with th- Chind-rs: lliit if a treaty vvere mil, it could not be err::.! int ) cf- f.-ct without a vo'c of ii'nrt mriatioii fi aril l!r. c;,:ini. te.-5; an -I it was- v ry doubtful whether such avotehh conld be o'.jtai ied. T.: --e d'-elarati'ei:: were not made once, r r twice; tiny were repented again and agnin, r':r ughoi-t ever, tnge of the ngocia tion, and -,- r more emphatic dlv tlian in tfie verv last, ju-t Inf re tie conclns'ion ,f tin r-catv. i D-3 .resident o: tin x.n.ncil, tl. Pernor, in ccr.veri!iou with .Mr. liives, at that L.us period,! ,hcrc b - ' in ." ! in- the question, were it th:.i he tea ml ppes!- the part r.i the ChamLeis, which might . 1 . - . " ii lion on leace trie rei ill n . n. mIi ... Iul t ... t . . . . .in t ii: in :i ivrni IB v . v. v . lilt nr n hi i i i' - - mi. re dangerous state, by H Tu-ing to make the ap nronriation. How tr : .-belie ! a it he l.d h p'-sce: what has t-isicc C"u.' to pa.-s. I do n.t pi- !i -s In , 4 W t - . . t t ' civn his words ; 1 did not atst-cM ate me uim.iis-iou, and Inve n t come pi pared with documents; hut al.til I vt.Tf. i cnlit.'inli:i!!v I I'.es.liil. With this apprehension, he a-kel oar Miniver to wait the sli i t pejirnJ of two mo-.th-, Pr the meeting .t . . . .i . ... i . i . .1. 1 I t!,C -UuHmt-ers, tliat ll;ey iijiui i.-e cor.uueu ih-ioiu , the com !ui n ot the treaty, in order to avoid too 1 ' i;os:-ilili! V of the eu.h:irrasi.:eit which lias since Extract of a part of the correspondence he t ween Mr. Hives and the French Minister during tiie ncotiation, taken from the Report of the Corn- mitteeof Foreign Relations durinir the last tes- mcu : " It appears from a dep:xtch of .Mr. Uives to the Secretary ot JMate, under the date l-th t entem Ikt, lS-"iJ, at !iis fust interview with the Fiench Secretary cf Foreign Aliairs, alter tht; revolution w hich p'ac.'d t he present King of France on the throne, that this French Minister siid, thnt he thought that the principle of indemnity would be admitted, but that the amount of the claims was a verv co.-nolex question, depending on a great va riety of c nideratiw.s, and rofjniring minute and j dot. iihd examination ;' tli.it he believed our claims would encounter much less opposition with the Go- ' vernmei.t, (meaning the King aad his Miuiteis,) th in with the l.hatuU-rs ; tliat he had thought oi i an orgauiz itiori of a commission to examine the sulifct, con-i-ting of members of both Chambers, i i . .. as t!ie best mentis ot pieparmg thosi; tio(!ics tor an Ultimate decision ; and he should suhmit tlie propo sition at an earlv day to the Council.' In a sulw- oi i quent despatch ot .Mr. Rives, ot the 'Jtn ot .oveiu- her, 1"I30, he says, the dispositions of tlie King, as well with regard to this -subject, he American claims, as to the general relations b twren the two countries, are every t'img we could desire. The difficulty exists in the extreme reluctance of the u nion to pay any more indemnities, a mi the neces sity which the (lovernment feels itslf under of consulting the Representatives of the nation, and of securing their approbat ion to any arrangement which may be ultimately concluded. The com mission, of the formation of w hich I have already apprised you, has grown entirely out of tiiis feel ing." On the occasion of an audience with the King, Mr. Rives, in his despatch of the 10th of January, 1 "S iJI, says, that the King, in replying to his remarks, reiterated the scfitim -nf s he had heretofore rx- t ft-h' 'ft I . k mn 'i 'i.i i-orr rml flu iiinin rc lifft It'wl j i v i I l llHf i v in .-m I v. .j now taken, witti a view to tiring the uilterences iietween the two coutitries to a conclusion.' ' The King proceeded to say, that since the ren ding of the President's Message, he had 4 remon strated against all unnecessary delays in the pro s: ution of the business-, and assured me that every thing s!i..u!J l done, on his part, to bring it t the earliest termination, notwithstanding the disastrous tate of their finances," The cominis.-ioners at pointed to examine our claim m.me their repmt. i he majority of hair rejecting nor claims crow ing out of Ihe IJeilin and Milan decrees, as well as the ha:, b .uihet and oth- er sp cial decree-, estimated the Mini to w hicli they sijix.sed the United States to be fairly entitled, ac cording to .Mr. Rives, at between ten and fifteen millions of francs, and the minority of two. admit ting the claims rejected by their colleagues, at thirty millions, hi an interview between the French Minister of Foreign Ailiirs and .Mr. Rives, desrri- !ed in his despatch of the t-:h of April, I vU , the . 1 v:iCt Chambers to make the appropriation? j the largest in the world, in proportion to our capi Minister ' spoke of the intrinsic didiculty of all j Knowing, as he must, how much the acts to which tal and population. She may threaten ami harass money questions in a rr-pre-e. tativo government,! ,,xe loM r(.t 1;( contributed to the defeat of the j our coast, while her own is safe from the assault. increased in me present iora ;ce ;v ioe tlie present io-naae bv the al most unanimous report ot the commi i :, am ther interview With the PlCsid'-Ilt of ihe Council of Mill- ist'-rs, desci ilx.-d in the same de-patch of Mr. Rives, ir. i truer sain : lie all the import tnce o cultivating good relations wiiii the United States,; and that he was iucere!v desirou- of adjusting th:s ancient controversy ; but lint their tin inces, as I s-iw, were exi cedingly dcrangeu. and that tnere won id I great ddhcuhy m n conciung Ihe bh'ini. her of Deputies to an ad litiooal charge on the en feebld resources of the State, f.r ciaiios, too, w hich had not arisen from any wrong done bv the present Government of France." In ihe .same despatch, Mr. Rives reports; "The King expressed, s;s he has ahvavs done, verv cordial sentiments for the United Stales ; s. .: I I.,, i. ...i -.,.. ,i.- ,...m ..i i... , i... n. 1. 1 ihm..ii!i 1. 1. en ii.' aiieuii' ii oi ins .i misters to :ne nocesMtv ot set iling our reclamations; that tliev had alwavs ob jected the ciularrnss'ij state of the finances ; l ot he hoped th ny would yet find the moans of doing just ice.' In a despatch of Mr. Rives, of the 7th of May, 1 1 , communicating the off r f twenty millions ot mines, m il!l salisfactioii of our c! .iil.s, rmd hi ocvhntng to accent, (! states the I- ren h Minister j to have reph.-.J "that the otlT-r he hn I just ,a.!e w as ...:e o , xtieme hherahty ; that ii won!.! sub- t, ject the M.n.-P-rs t.ia severe re.-p-.n-ihilijy b -f -re tin Chambers : that .o : id b --o .-.lieM.! already :ir,:i d, . a from various quarters, that be v.oell be held to a ! strict accou it f.r his -r ttl nient of this atriiir." In ! ihe same i!epi?c!i Mr. I:vs ! aiis a conversa tion which he had ha I with tie; Pr- sident .f tie Council, rt spef ting the amount oi our claims, in w hich he sai 1 thit if was pa 1 1 icub r!y hard that ; th; h.'iru'e.i of tle-jr ailjtistnietit siionl I now fill up- j "' in" exisimg UovermiK-nr, in e present enp n a Ii its exoen- oa-o s: l.e :? resources, and v s s H it.' in o :i tv 1 r I f r I f I . t ; t .. ...... ..... ''i', .!. iii.ii ii ..in i.i fairdy rmt ti-e interest of eiti, r country to make an arrangement which the legislative authority here might refuse to carry info execution." In another despatch of Mr. Rives, of the 2Dlh of May, lVjl ,e relates a -nuveisalioii in nn in. tervicw with the President of the Council. That Minister, Mr. Rives states, " then said ihnt but thr the Chan. hots, there woi.U l.e less ';itr,cu!;v in ar ranging this question, b:it tliat he npprehcr.de.l a very seri ns oppoM'lioti to it on their pari, w hich might even m .re s -notify eudwoil tlie relations of tne two Countries. )V lefnsiier to enrri info nvci-ii. - n any arrangement which sh.ml.! be .:te " II,. adde-, 44 that two months s-mner or later could not be of much i.eport.-mee in the settlement of this rpnsth.n, and asked me if llnre wculd lie anv ob jection to rirJj. .urning its decision" till the meeting of tin Chambers, when tin Ministers rvill have an opportunity of consu-tir.ir some of the leadin r men of the two House,." TUU jostpoounciit was , ' M fiTXt 1 teg, ,jy and honor, whether p, i acci p nig the - - ... . . . tieatv alter -.Lose repealed deel irntions, mu noi at- i .i. .i ft it sll li'P 111 ( I'lill I K W 1 II mi nil mi- , . cd ; that is, whether, in point c.f fact, the stijnda- I f . , .a ti... I'w.uMve r.ii'T it nut to be tuir-ir.r Iv construed with these declarations ir.ai.e at t.ie 1 . . - I . ni.wiliMt ilttiltll' (A Ml. fill i in.auon i me irean , m uiukwui .v,u..v.. aneu.ei.t m n-e his het-t endeavors to obtain ll.o , m i t ol the (.'ham'.iers to the appropriation, fcuch , would cciia'mU Ixi the understanding, in a Mmilar , car, hv, w ten honorable and conscientu us muivi- I .1. . . I I. T I I .. :11 . I,.. l.Hitn !uuai; auu micu, i .ippn ueuw, m m.,. hereafter, when passions shall have subsided, of eve ry impartial inquirer alter truth. The question (said Mr. C.) is now presented, lias the Fiench Executive complied with his promise? Has he honorably, faithfully, and earnestly endea vored to ohliiin the assent of the Chambers? To these questions I si all not renlv. I have the an swer to our Executive and to our Ministers. 1 hey have explicitly and honorably acqui'.ted the French Executive on this important point. Rut (said Mr. C.) Ut us turn to the conduct of I. . .i-: .... our own lxecutive, in relation in mis nnpoi i.nu oart of the controveisv . It" I ho implied obligation on the paitof the French Executive was such as I suppose, there was a corresponding one, on the part of ours, to interpose no obstacle in obtaining tin sis-ent of ihe Chamber. How stands the tact f -Vlr. Rives, in communicating to our Executive the re sult of the negotiation, boasted of his skill, and the advantage which he had acquired over the French negotiators. I pass him by. It vva, jv.r haps, natural for him to boast. What does the Executive do ? With a fi ll know ledge of all the ; f,(:is, forewarned of the dillicnlty which ihe French Ministry would have to encounter in the Chambers, he publishes to the world this boastful communica tion, which produced a sensation which increa se! in the same proportion the dillicnlty of obtain ing the assent of the Chandlers to the appropria tion. The next step incieas -d the difficulty. Know- it. -, as he did, that the appropriations depended Um.u tiie Chamber, the then Secretary of theTrea- j place and tell us what is intended ? ury, without waiting for its action, drew a bill fori I might ask (said Mi. C.) for like explanation, the p i mt nt of the iiist instalment, before the ap- Why our Charge was recalled from Paris at the propriation was made, and U lore, ot course, it c.-iiio jwissiiiiy os puui. .v proiesi necessarily ioi lowed, accompanied with much irritation on both sides. With these obstacles, created by our own acts, the treaty was submitted to the Chandlers. Every I -.I. . . i i i ellort was made to obtain the appropriation. The i deep mystery in the w hole affair, which those only Minister displ.ived uncommon zeal and abilities in (who are initiated can understand. defence of the treaty ; but in vain, under these mul- J I fear (said Mr. C.) that w ith the message which tiplied diiliculties. The bill was rejected by a ma- j we have this day received, the last hope of preserv ioritv of oi-rht votes; a number so small in so large i ing the peace of the country has vanished. This a ho ly, that it may be f an ly pre-umed. witnout any violence, that hail not Mr. Rives's letter been published, and the dralt drawn before the appropri ation was ma le, the majority would have been on the other side, and all the unhappy train of conse quences which have since followed would have been prevented. So earnest was the Fiench ministry in their edorts to carry the bill, that their defeat dis solved the Administration. With these facts Ik fore us, who can doubt w here the responsibility rests? We bad thrown the imped iments in the way we, who had been so urgent to obtain the treaty, and we who had to profit by its execution. It matters not, in the v iew in w hich 4 , I am considering the question, to what motives the j :,,.,s ,,f ol,r I2Xe utive may be attributed w hetiier to eloign or tliotnilalcsiuci-s, it cannot shift the re- poh.-lbilllY. Let us now (said Mr. C.) proceed to the next stage of this most u. .fortunate afiair. 1 pi-s over the intei vening peiid; I come to the ooeninu of the next session of Con-rress. In w hat manner does the President, in his message at tin: opening of the session, notice the failure of the j i.jH and that his Administration was responsible j j,,r ,(,..... acts jt w;ls I1(llr;1 to expect that he e.-onhl have notice.-! ihe f.te..f the hill in l!,o e -dm , - - aa..u ', v - wi a ' i i lie v,iatia est and most gentle manner; that he would have done full justice- to the zeal ami fidelity of the iVeneh Executive in its endeavor to obtain its pas- ge, and would have thrown himself with c.nh- i j J,.IK e on the justice ai d the honor of the Fiench ' n:.t ion for the lullihn. nt of the treaty. In r a won that he would have dope all it; his power to strength- en the Exeeulive (iovernment in France in their future etf.rts to obtain the appropriation and care- fully avoid every thing that might interp ose addi tmna! obstacles. Instead of taking this calm and cousideiate course, so well calculated to secure the iiin'ilui.-nt ot the treaty, and s i befitting the dignity t ... ' , and lil- ICC Ot our ttovrrim;e!if. he sem s a mess:i..e to Congress, couched in the strongest terms, and recommending th it he should be invested with authority to issue letters of marque and reprisal in the event of the appropriation not lieing made a m 'asure, if not tantamount to war, leading to it by almost a neccssarycoiiscquei.ee. The message was received in r ranee wuh the doen fee hue of , irritation which mieht have been ev.iected ; nnr! j ,m,Jcr this feehp.r, uit, all the impediments which h, u.,s calrll!.lt(.j fo t.rfaJe ,,e iU , carrv lhe trtMtv j-.to efii-ct had the second time to make its rancc j,, lh, Chan.hers. The v were sur- ,,,. The bill pissed; but not without a con- dtt!':. a condition which causes the present difii culty. I d eply regret (said Mr. C.) the condition. In my opinio. i tiie honor of Fiance did not require it, and ti e only vindication that an be ollered for the Ministry in accentimr it. is. the necessity of the: objected to by Mr. Rives, and was not insisted up on. During the progres of the negotiation, the prin ciple of indemnity was early conceded. The French Minister first ottered fifteen millions of francs. .Mr. Rives demanded forty. The French .Minister ad vanced to twenty, to twenty-f ur, and finally, with extreme reluctance, to twenty-five. At the point of t w cnty-fi.ur, Mr. Rives ca me dow n In thiitv-two, as the medium between the two proposals. At that of twenty five, the French Minister announced it j as their ultimatum, and in a despatch of Mr. Rives t the 1 -It hoi June, ltJl, lie reports the French Minister to have said " that if was the opinion of the most erdightended and influential memlicrs of both Chambers, that the offer of twentv-f .ur mil lions, heretofore made, v'vas greatly loo much; that , , and other leading members of the one Chamber or the other, whom he men tioned, had .already expressed that opinion to him, and err.phaticnl'v warned him of the seri us ditfi ctdties to which this affair would expose Minis ters." - But is i i. ... r. tiit tne nris or cur taurtv, wc oug.o '"-"o' -- - ....... i.,,,i;v u-frp t ip cause ot its insertion. unil i i.v i v, - . This (said Mr. C.) brings us to the present stage i in nn haniiv controvers. i Mian uui uu-i opinion on tne message aou mn.uiin.iii.- .i . I , , . . . , at-Kirlt lini"f iust been read, til! I hae had time to read them at leisure, and more fully comprehend their character ;,ud bearing. '1 lie feunator Irom 1'ennsylvania na j probabIy had the advantage ot tne in knoying tneir contents. Here 31 r. liucnanan sigmueu ins. sent. I will not (-aid Mr. C.) make the remarks that I intended, but I am not sajisfuxl with much that I have heard in the reading of the message and the documents. I am, in particular, very fir from leing satisfied with the reasons assigned by he Secretary of State why he did not accept the copy of a letter from the Duke de Broglie to the French i jT 1 I.I. -I.. Charge d A flairs here, winch the latter ottered io put in his possession. I regret exceedingly that we have not that document. It might have shed much light on the present state of this unhappy contro versy. Much mystery hangs over the subject. There is another point (said Mr. C.) which re quires explanation. There is certainly some hope (that the ne ssagc at the opening of the session may be favorably received in France. The President has in it vcxpressly adopted the explanation ollered by Mr. Livingston, which ailords some hoje, at least, that it may prove to be satisfactory to the Fiench (lovernment. Why, then, send this mes- age at this time? Why r commend preparations , . , i i i v. ,i, and non-mtercourse till we h.ave heard how the , , - i s! -,, message has been received in 1 ranee f Suppose its i ii i c ii .! i reception sh..u!d be lavo.able, in the absence ot a representative of our Covernment at tlie French couif, nothing could he done till the message which we have just received shall have passe 1 the Atlan tic and reached Paris. How unfortunate would be the consequence ! What new entanglements and diiliculties would be caused in the relations of the two countries ! Why all this? Who can explain ? j Will any friend of the Administration rise in his . nine nc was. ny noi wan nu ine annual .Mes sage was received ! W horn have we there to re present us on its reception, to explain anv difficulty which might remain to he explained ? All these things may have, .a satisfactory explanation. I cannot, however, perceive it. There may be some compels me to look forward. Tiie first thing that strikes me, in casting my eyes to the future, is the utter inixissibility that war, should there unfortu nately be one, can have an honorable termination. We shall go into war to exact the payment of live millions of dollars. The first cannon discharged on our part would be a receipt in full for the whole amount. To expect to obtain payment by a treaty of peace would be worse than idle. If our honor would lie involved in such a termination of the con test, the honor of France would be equally involv ed in the opposite. The struggle then would b, who should hold out longest in this unprofitable, and, were it not for the seriousness of the occasion, ridiculous contest. To determine this point, we must enquire, which can intlict on the other the greater injury, and to which the war must te most 'xpensive. To both a ready answer may be given Tiie capacity of France to indict injury upon us is j ten times greater than ours to indict injuries on her ; while the cost of the war, in proportion to . her means, would be in nearly the same nronortion less than ours to our means. She has relatively a 1 small commerce to be destroved. while we have Look her over the whole ir round. I do not ("said Mr. C.) hesitate to pronounce that a war with France will be among the greatest calamities, greater than a war with England herself. The power of the latter to annoy us may be greater than that of the former ; but so ours, in turn, greater to annoy Eng land than France. There is another view connect ed with this point deserving the most serious con sideration. Iia I 1 ICIlla rl V lie lllO rf:mtni.r-iil irl ro v igtiting portion of the Union. Nothing can be J more destructive to our commerce and navigation, than for England to be neutral, while we are beli- - - - - 7 I - ---'- . . . . VUIIMIII. I 11. VI lli" gerents, in a contest with such a country as Fiance. The whole of our commercial murine, with our en tire shipping, would pass almost instantly into the hands of England. With the exception of our pub lic armed vessels, there would be scarcely a Hag oi ours afloat on the ocean. Wo grew rich by beinc neutral while England was beligercnt. It was thai! which so suddenly built up the mighty fabric of cur prosperity and greatness. Reverse the position let England lie neutral while we are beligereuf, and the souices of our wealth and nrosoeritv would be speedily exhausted. In a just and necessary war (said Mr. C.) all those consequences ought to be fearlessly met. Though a friend to peace, w hen a proper oc-aiin occurs, I would be among the last to dread the con- serpieuces ot war. 1 think the wealth and blood of .. . ii i . .. .icounirv ie weu poured out in maintaining n j .t . . 7 , s r J Honorable, mid necessary war; but in such a war as that with w hich the country is now threatened a mere war of etiquette a war turning on a ques tion so trivia! as whether an explanation shall or shall not he given no, vvi etner it has, or has not been given, (for that is the real point on w hich the controversy turns.) to put in jeopardy the lives and property of our citizens, and the liberty and insti tutions of the country, is worse than'ioliy is mad ness. I say tlie liberty and institutions of the country. I hold them to lie in imminent danger. Such has been the grap of Executive power, that we have not been able to resist its usurpations, even in a period of eace ; and how much less shall we be able, w ith the vast increase of power and patron age which a war must confer on that department 1 . i . i . .... .' in a sounu conouion oi me country, with our insti- tutions in their fuil vigor, and every departn confined to its nroner smIhtp w-o ...h.i i.. . en! ing to tear from a war from France or any other power; but our system is deejily dis. ased, rmd we may fear the worst in being involved in war at such a juncture. I have (said Mr. C), in conclusion, no objection to the message and documents going to the Com mittee on Foreign Relations. I fiave great confi dence in the committee, and have t o doubt that they will discharge their duty to the Senate and to the country with rudence und wisdom, at the pre sent trying juncture. But let mo suggest a caution I I I . Mtlliu II.1T I1I noth Vt.. siirclv, in Lie 1 ' - n"-ain?t the ha?tv adoption of the recommendations of the message". To adopt them, would be to change for the worse the position which we now occupy in this unfortunate controversy, and lead, I fear, din ctiy to war. We are told that a French fieet has been sent to the West Indies, which has been considered sis a menace, with the intention of frightening us into hasty measures. The French Government itself has said in its official journal that it acts on the defensive, and that there is no legitimate cause for war between the two countries. We would not le justified, with these declarations, connected with the circumstances of the case, were we to regard the sending the tlcet as a menace. We must not forget that we, in this controversy, are, as my colleague said the other day in debate, the plaint i'C", and France the defendant. If there must be war, it must con e from us, not Fiance. She has neither motive nor cause to make war. As we, then, must declare the war, it is not strange that France, sifter what has passed, should prepare for the worst ; and such preparation ought fairly to be considered, not as a iicnace, but as a precau tionary measure resulting from our own acts. But should we in turn commence arming, it must be followed on the part of France with increased pre paration, and again on ours with a corresponding increase, till, at length, the pride and pas-ions of both parties would be so wrought up as to burst out to open violence. I have (said Mr. C.viTiorx) thus freely express ed mv opinion upon this important subject, feeling a deep conviction that neither justice, honor, nor necessity impel toarnis ; and thatawarwn .- 1 . ' . 4, .at all times, and more especially at th ... ' . . .'.- won d be among tiie greatest Ca'amaties . t belad the country. it h r ranee. e i-resent. that could I rom the lialci&h Star. TIIE VICE PRESIDENCY. It is time the attention of the friends of Judge WHITE, in this State, should be drawn to this subject. It is known that in case of the death, re signation or removal from office of the PresiJent, tlie Vice President will be called upon to exercise the duties of the station. It is highly important, theref re, that the individual selected, should be a man of ability, integrity and sound principles. We want no such man as the nominee of the Baltimore Convention, selected without regard to his fitness or principles, because it was supposed he would give popularity to the ticket in the western States. In a late number, we published a communication on tiiis subject, recommending the Hon. John Ty ler, of Virginia, as a suitable person. We entirely concur in the propriety of his nomination. A re publican of the old Jetlersonian school, his integrity is above suspicion. We believe that even the Ec'i tor of the G 1. be, whose mighty malice, and mighty mendacity, permit hardly any person to escape, has not been able to say any thing against this pure and distinguished individual, lie is opposed to the Rank, to Internal Improvements by the Federal Government, to the Tariff, and to the fanatical at tempts to interfere with our domestic institutions. His experience, as a statesman, is very great. We doubt not that the supporters of Judge White else where will readily unite upon him. We would re spectfully suggest to our friends, whilst holding meetings to nominate a Governor, that they non i. nate also a candidate for the Vice Presidency. We again urge the imjiortaiice of sp,eJy action and or ganization. Let a central committee be appointed in each county, and sub-committees in each Cap tain's district. The caibe in which we are engaged merits an effort. It is a contest by the people themselves against dictation and patronage. It is a contest to preserve the voting privilege, the creat pillar of free Governments, free from an impudent and unhallowed attempt to control its exercise. - --- --..-. I'ron the A. Y. Courier and Enquirer. TIIE XEXT PRESIDENCY. An idea apjears to have gone abroad, that the nomination of Genera! Harrison in Pennsylvania and Maryland, may induce .Mr. Webster to wiih diaw from the contest. Rut surely those who en tertain such an opinion, have not calmly considered the consequence of Mr. Webster's withdrawal and its ctlict upon the prospects of .Mr. Van Ruren. So far from the nomination of General Hanison having an injurious effect upon the prospects of tlie W bigs and the triumph of the cause of principles, in our estimation, it is destined to render our triumph morally certain. We have frequently said that Mr. Van Ruren has no hold on the affections of the people nor their leaders, and that his popularity is founded exclusive ly upon his being tiie candidate of the President. .inu uio impression growing out ctit that bv reason of General Jacksons's influence and the ih'ects of Party discipline, his success is morally certain. Cold, calculating, and unfeehne, evi-r ready to sacrifice those who have rendered him the "n-atest services in order to cancel his debt , f ratifudo and esteeming the success of the smallest intrigue ot tar greater irnpfirlai.ee than ti e feelings andre putations of those who have served him it is not strange he should be surrounded by a st t of politi cians as heartless and calculating" as himself, and between whom smt-imtrkst constitutes the ?dy bond of union. There is but one individual cf all Mr. Van Hi-kex's friends (Mr. Rutli:r,) w ho does rv-.t h ri! I ..-v! I,s...,-. I . II iw. iiinn uciiec- uiui ne would sacrifice tl.ent at any moment it became his interest to do so ; and conscious of this known and admitted trait in hii character, they too, are ready to leave him to his fate whenever they discover that there is r:o lonoer. any jirospcct of his success. From a set of men adhering to each other by such frail bands of unhn as seit-mtercst and their ability to deceive the pub lie, there is little to fear under any circumstances; and fir less, when as in the present instance, their leader is in no Way identified with any great event in the history of the country, and hasno clain.s upon the affections, the sympathies, or the gruti tude of the people. We now state it as our deliberate opinion, that there is not only a reasonable prospect of defeating the election of Martin Van JWen, but that there exists a moral certainty of his defeat without even going to the House of Representatives. And to t fleet this great and important result, all that is ner cessary, is to preserve harmony and union among the Whigs of this State. Xo one, at least no weM informed politician, doubts, that if the elements of opposition in this State can be united, Van Ruren must loose the electoral vote. As an evidence of this, it is only necessary to remind the reader that he and Jackson together, only had a majority of thirteen thousand out of three" hundred and fifty four thousand votes polled in 1832 thr mWof the Jacks-on men were Clintonians and will never support Van Buret. that others are for Ilnrrkr.n. and will give him a rjeference ever the nominee of 0 0 0 0 0 o
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