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1 U 'sLJTUJiE OF JQKiyf-C.MpLLYA
DEBATE
On tie Motion of Mr Wilson to proceed by
' iytnt ballot ofllzoihfiotises, tv choose
ficTtsn of president and vice president.
D.jUSB OF COMMONSTHtfRSDAYr-Novlfcr
ELECTORAL LJ1W J ;
wnen tn? consideration ot a. .resoiatjQnv
substituting Another mpde choice for the
one proposed Jn the resolution lof,thegeb
tleman ,frd(n Stores;- (Mr. Wilson ras
tailed for, thfcboase -refused .to.fieaif it.
(Now was a member o be pricluded'from
expressing his sentiments upon arfvfpropo-
sition he might bfinforward 2 Certainly
not.: Addyet, if it was not in-order to go
mt 3 the merits of the question upon the mo-
ibn'fbr postponement, suchwolildbe tte.
fFect of the ypte the house had given; ;ilr.
Camerqn
Mr. D. Cameron call ed)up ' the . resolu-
lion SJftniraeu uy4 nun n i ucbtiav, xo wu
?. fnf-ntiL That it is eXDedient to-'retJcal the -x-
r la a' prcscribiaqf thrt inod of chpqin electors M r. Steele Coi S
fora prrtinvaiid vice-president bf thUni- when such bate
u S'.rte3--"ana u jiuti'.ic uv law iui cjkiusiii, sucu ,
er on a sinipl qlestion?of postponement it'
werelin order to ko into the general merits'
of a proposition I If scu debate miffht-occ
rendered innnite. , - , , vtM
, Mr Speaker gave it : the opinion of
i f the chair, that debate on tMe meritswouId
not be,, in bgden
the? United - States 'is tho only authority'
vhich is, conclusively binding tn thesub
At all times.has bren considered essen
1 1 4I toth c prelser.v a ti cm o f th ose i n h titu tio
rwhich were designed to secure the welf ire
jnd. -'.happiness-,, of society, thafa constant
eve.be had to the views vvith which the
were established; Sq-iu the bill of rights,
t is declarect V that a frequent recurrence
1m'? -r a t :
if luuuamerJiar principles is: necessary , ju j
1
order tosecure the blessings of iibertv"v
wVs procedinrg whenK: EveVv one. ivill admit thar-ihe se ction oi
MrsStone enquired of the chairs iivheth-rthe Bill of Rights, which conniris thjsdv
cUration, directive referred to cases ..ir
whicn the legislature mignt transcend the
limits Vifj triose powers with, vvhich? -they;
were vested. The other - departments' t
government are so restricted in their; ppt!
rations, and so dependant upow the iegtsr I
bv laying out tne state into siirh mimber of a member could not, at some period,' cx themselves formidable W pahJicrnpem .
ijiereiorei wim recrara 10 a-4ic-
""iast census arid apportionment ofcTepresefuatives forward, the ruiesof the ioiise werexry
AV"n'L.JCi i ' defective.. If the' sacred jiitht of freedom
" --7"'i I 1 .1 f t, .IM.tL.. l-i-Iil- TL .1.' - -
biu.ion for tl.e purpose of taking up Me '. ' 8U i..c4.cK,,.,Vu,c. ; .u;
"on th, 3' me sxfbieCtofFcred bf himself the preservat.onpf hbertr, epold bejf. denufy AemVe. thpl2to
K proce.ing to morrow- morning to ded or trampled under foot-H they cbuhl .upp9?e lhat ..W.gltt:tt AJ
L'c electors by-joinlfianoT. . ' "ot be e.xtrcisel1 "f.- ;. the rS of thing the people,can:do. Uoder,the..nflu .
The latter motion rcas decided to be out . ..uu.a uyr u ..cu iu.W9v,-.
quent iecfrrence to fundamental pnyajifes
is not absolutely necessary Not'so;wuh
jo: motion was tlien decided bv yeas and ' -HV.Sr
a ul lost.-. Yeaf 64, nvs 65. . VT
The housthen to3fef'up Mr. WilsoVs
TK- nmtinn nn' tla tin Mr. fame uC w u,c nuui uS vcr uuiucyun granieuu iiicm, , wmiwi
and ,-'' r- i ., vt-- 1 w, i-r w - , ' 1
meritsror the-, question could not be peba- the people aiid,whjch"peuht?r tneyr;nort the
ted now hb would be thankful to be" infor- nrtSnle would ,in!erat in 4nv' other -flrnart
p iVir. Wilson's ., t H , . , . 1 4 r , T.. - , Z' , r
vk'rre mfl by tnc chair when they could be gone ment.,? It; was ;doubues.?wuh a view-taenr
w Kthn,tPSni,u,nfmne'nf in9 ' . , 1 croachmenfs nftthiR; nature, tmt the 7 caii-
Xnui 'Jiioi iiia." that tUey vproced on tomorrow ::i he. Speaker . dlpeved,' that 'ehit&. t tori .m -thcJiiUof yRight. VVhcn the le
aun iur, at ti meeting othe . two;' houses, to ap- would be in order on the question of.adbpM gislatiire encroaches upon the privileges
to,N,v jo,nt mu-cn elector to rote lorr.- $ the resolution - ''-"-'TwhkhV
id -n 'id vice-president of the Umte.l States, aree- tr c 1 -r 1 1 V . - . : u.1'u".u ...
Ax -i. iivm'im ofith'e-'act of assembly 'passed r said tl the general bursts on Jo the people thev ay'e.an undoubted right
riiir .. 1 -j - t ' . cwuii vucu nc uihcussseurne wassai(sn ; to recur totne iunaamentai principles upon
r ' Cameron theh.taoved to amend t Mr. iYie yaudJ?eJ sorry, lie observed which the : government' is founded.1, This
th; i lu ion bv striking out the whol th:it anv que$tioh of order ' s1iould'pT0 idea is supported bV Mr. in
ffirM in, m tne louowmz, worcs :
, . ( tin theVpover orappointing tjclpctbr
i sed bv MK of president and vice, presideht 'ofe, the XX
-w., " hv,i ii'ta m "luci w vJiic-i i4 4ijcu vjtaica .in mo preseiH icgisiaiure U,n
icsoution, thtjsame-, in substanctv as he constitutional, -'"and aif infringemferit "tipOn
tante.vled, with otW which the house had -the elective franchise o!f .tne free people of
fat fused ,to take up ? I r' . J "the state of jCaVoliiit C "V
Messrs. Steele, W. IK Jone arid Cam Mr.wrrcalfii
" cHucM.i uiiuue. j3rqposea.amena ' question on ctriKing out andinserting ;
inen.-v.s strictlvin order. ThVobjectdf Iwhich was agreed to.' : jvf
;s to have, a fair expression .. of the1 Some Jconvefsation'thenltook ; place, a to
ense ofthe House upon the merits of the the nroprietv of debating thVpeheral otie's.
the nroprietv ottdebatinfi- the ireheral'n ties
I topon ,anv; nronosition. he-irtitmalfft. thev l?terMak:ftiMAwirV tU Il.,
itcndtjci, was a rjghtvhich every mem-" tion Was open' for debate.
con?uentK ; all powers .not' grAn.rrfta" i j,
plainrand express terms, mst be rrtTiiVlrl ' V
'y ine people, 11 tfiis ptunt: sir, I xrvt(i -rj
mstand. r If he, power, of ;diposmgli-cV,7
f.irsjbe not grunted t the lisl uurt-in elTjf '
iirees terra's it 'niustbe retai icd by tKeVc Jr f
pie. -a,, A., 4r,y . ' f y . ? '
1 1 ywvimiso beconcede V; 'anoUirr of K .' :
the 'Msg nnncipls ,of a r-epuMiCaiK g -vem-; k J. f r
Wrtciwj toVitercisV ' direct ilji -iel e,ls tr : s'Jv
tlierf public fdrictmn-uV n -f: 5 1 1' fe : J J'ii'
- ...
-y-Piv t it is orctical)le -fOrhe jk.o f
peaatiarge. to. choose electors, has brert .; v;,-v
eltayhedjhy'a' practice f "tweinW ve-irs -tinder;
the federal constitution .' 1 'f 4 -l l'
, ll lmpklt will also be admitted, that tile . C YY
ca$8tituton, beiag a granrof tp6ver td
Ptdmoting the general 7 l&re-and pWr4 t: r);;
yiiig th-hiessingsofJibcrt as is exprei '?'
sed umongwotheT things in the preaiWe 4 U
u ine insiruuicn?, .js co oe construed -itt' ,!-;';
sin .manner, s'.-haUe consistent, witti .
m'd most promotivti of the deaicrn and ob V ll'
jeejof the peopie'ia1 mifeitiff the ''fivihU'
Jfiverv article musrbe ronsidere'dM'n smH M'1
5
au. tiiay'ijc-sL ira .in.vyiaiiestcnisr- ' l ;
fa;nedvb thecomhiumty .at the1 ti'moof itd ;M, ;
adoptiprt.r J-meanVsir, that, in ev;er in-,x Sj''
stance in. which doubts &h jU ante;: they are;: V : ? t
tobe JiberalJ vconstru-d in luvor of . thb V i
riWpfc tfc pebpe,id ' meet; iiictlVV l?-.f;i! !
gainst thetrustees or dejpikitories)f their 'a-Jr ' ' ii
authritWr The legislature mu't construe ; -i ViFl
every provision jn the mst adv in tagua
light: for theirconstHuefttgi heariija: in ,ijiiid ! J ji
that pi wh.ut is ot plainly deifcgads ? - :
questionably ret?rined they ' artl fcliii; in ' Yt V I
scancts connnea to- ne et
crant. V.sK!
V
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i: i
tfitar ot except the wori tk resolved, tor maturely tiecided, beigre it actua:Iy;octrtir i fconibatinc:. . in 1788 obiections ,. which
tJieDurj 'sejof insrtiJftri;vvtrd3, " f b t red. ihet psentws oiijv d simple qus ver raised to the Adoption of the fedea),
it b ndLnt to rep al vy existing law. tion-of postponement, and ' not ar gene: cohtitutipnl v-u'he legislative ,depart
fbr el t:inr eJectHr3, by joint balidt bf question on therpiution bdyoKheb0p4r jnajentliay
kt iv3 of the, General Asstfiub)yto ;Thek question on potpotvem.eiit yfi? now" tVirtr th?e snherVof itsactiv;u; and drawing
p and toprdvide,bv;lW oV;;Jlr.
I in r ,iUt th.- st;itx;,intf distrirts to choose 'r tteycaaanrj Ji.Ufebp theWibiLtiio-V-j-.sing ambttoadtbieparmejitV tlrit'the
in- .i electors ; uch' electors for the eu rrrjS thVrbi pfedpleAightAo
elation to ejected' by; the .me,n-fsMutr6npby;V
h is of th s gtfheral assemblyrpresentirigVetthe.Avor fc resolveHy "nclihsertingi was-the, iahgiiageoith present chief jhia
tieou.itir8 compwppg-sttclr districts; arid That epreshtge gistrate itfthViFealsiidir. itOwas
Ifcrraktrbv the treenien ql this statejin theact ofiher lf Ken6nKsnblv: ves correct and nroDcrm him and Justified b
Weir re spective districts. '
4 question was hereupon ra
Hone,
net letter p u
Il,jvingpr?nise3 rhse few prin i,j!(f.-
which, I-consider of importance," J Vo.ilih
ask of the house to-inve them a cani)Und "a vS
fair constderatJOn.' ' It thev be admitt-.rL i'J
as they, assuredly must;, and if thfrgaV
mept founds Tori them oe heard witrf tint ii''
uispusmon wnicn; ieaos me min t to. See ffit51
; V ? '"9 W1 ouv-o ugut i niaY ic Jt " v('r
tai
r--.. . . au . vu mc icjgui tjuc iur. o x u jujz. .: vki tne presentuiQ
Kit could rot otherwise be obtained; tion, Mr. Speakerictsbould consi4cnmy
fa bv somethinjt ' similar to the motion self as Derfectlv iri'or.ler in xoreaamVlVnv'
wjfB HTere-1. - It could , 'riot be obtained bv opinions upon" the: whole question bef ore
Jj'teoa the jresoldti offered by . Mr. the house. ;So mtichhawerVhasn
i!,on n-icher, tn; the c6nsi deration, pt said,an" tlie various forms ? hv wbich tne
at resolutionwauld it be in order to take electoral; layvTaf lasiessron fTas beedis
toview t:le whol&subect connected with ' cussedrtelative .tdLth'5'impropn
pectoral law of(la'st session. - ; expediency of thep measufeV- ttiiiW. shall
.lhe Speaker decidelMiv .Cameron's cqnnneTmVem
fion to be-' out of order f rFrom whiciimpoftan aspect in which' kfisu to b'e view
gon an appeal was made: to the house!cdUunttnsfitViocaHtV I trust
N U was confirmetl, yeas 7Sy9 54.1 &halS:bebie to illristratCbhe, rnbsUr
Hlr. Cameron' motioti -.was therefore resi
.received, s The!ffendem&ri then rnWrf ) mnnv. ' IlininiiWaCW tZXJZU:!
par xnai wie-jaci.passea.oy. ineiast :lsse,m
bly,f riot; only violVted: tne cbrisut'qubn.'.but
'stpone,th'exorisideratiOn ofMril
resolution until Mohdayext. uv tjt
lnis tion he idlarddidnorprri was.bbstile; to 'tKeerypiHt.afidgeniy ofN
in somq sadr;oth;buf :frninfc V t
!LUh afford timefor evervmeriiber ofvIn forming Un opipfen on all" ''cohsutur
r? house to fl'.rKVk:. ' :u' " iSitl J 2---Zl -1.'
- uuuai uutauu,j;, is : iicccssary xuai a rei--
1 2 wamly of great niaRnitudeSPerhap cUrrence.'. b"e had to first ririnciDles-V One
!&i 'v present ieit -aeiermineaioOt'inese linoia to pe.tnatvtne treemenot
' 1 u ouuiCiinauucr, to tnccnoiceoi
g7ted bu for the purpbsp.of allow
Ce to,aD to riVaketupa klmWe
Ik PJnioi Heished the motion for
qpestbn. ;so; far: as. to Ihew
tfrL adoptiilK onie'othe mode the.'cqur cf r
xneunnea.ptates nave.a ngnt to.enioy all
the bnyiliges they.can convniffiitlyeser-
circumstaricesrat. tnat; timeVI trus vshaH
nqi giyCvOHciiciti uis irienusvin inrsoousc
by making useof it Sr theCVesent ocaa
sion and -recommending; to ,their sen
bus consideration. ! :4y '
Aud , ,.navewe nofsirt .Had ui5ciept
'propfsot,opU in neigh
boring states ( that .eases reTnot $ 'wanting
wherein Jegisltative bodies haVe traxiscen
de the'powersvith which;! they wrc fde
signed to be frivested, : t need riot take up
the ti mei 'of , tthe 5 ,house5n -statirig thcsV
cases. ) They, will unrfues'tionbJ y bel recote
lectefl bt;the members pi the, housWV That
laws not warrented by theCoristituridri,haVe
Ifequfcntly J)een "passed,, does' noadmtbf
fererit icgislatures hairebeen' pronounced
by- theprb)er trfbuValstheju
a,i4Ur4 y hla.' f . i vihii)C vaoifa nave ,'gA9iEU
wlierem rpfesritatiypt-bodies T havebeen -f
aundL 4 capable of J so t - forgetting: or
mistxing tne'auinontyunaerwhicxi they
acted, as to;esceea their JtmitswilL-it be
presumptudus jnjus or in the present ; as
sembly 1 W:;W;;j that rih last lleffislature
no be. denied, that all political s power is
iy V;nd ' that ; sucli; portiorisof ; 1 f jVnaj;
be ddega&dfcrthVpprppses of govm-
I meritilcan, pnlybe edrciseliirithe pfoffnr
lii.i- 'l'Jj'-l rw-' :- " ,ir
urescnucu py,a,wrieu cq,nsutution.t?4 nat
the cnsUtutioiir-p tte U njted ltates is a
gTantbXpQwer9de:DV'tii.BepU in their
sovereign anu .unlimited capaditVvlitUio
tespect dependent vpntkr requmng; the
clear pand it M"ill; riot be cont-ndedthatl
the. choide of t cfors, i mmedi "?ly by. the
pjcpleV;;rs a? privile ivhic :eyVcould
not, conveniently ersreiss. " r "
, I-may .;ave occasion, til: Speaker, in
to :refer -.to: the
r Validity But' on the contrary bv the' a-
aopi' -in in ,ty copsntution, tne.; state: ie
gisJ;;turesHv;re:placed byUhV people Jtf re
rn
lation-tothe aliairs pfc the general'goVe
nient . u a secor: 1 iry, If ribt in ti, subordi
nate capacity; with duties, to peffprm', Ith'
powers limited and ccn trolled ,insorrie caT
sea expressly vproninitea'.ana in an others
to a pfoper4udgment, and-not;4ri the un-
ter myself- with the hopeof beinfiraDle tc wfl
maihtairr, ;o thesatisfcaon f thei lopse;; . V X rj t
the, posftion : t h We: assumed, on thisA ones- :V - f
ion. .Ihis-if that the act-.o last- sesiou . vi -u.
inyadedi'tbc rights 6f thts peopi tbar it VnUV'i
was notx'Only unconstitutional, but that it V ykwV
cucruacneu, upop.tnc nrst principles, or ireet j-1 ,j
representative cf(iVernriicrit i''VV'
- . 'tSetorft 1 Ysroreefi. to a ritir.:il pY'imtna.bvW!,i !i
t- i ' -i v' . t, jr
viviu ui iuq 34iisviwui.miiii jjryuuu, ll Will U0 ;J r it: t
house whil
brief ria
w,-f msk uie inaujsgenccr oi-inej".'i(j4
hile engaged' in it, -to fener;irito -. fl; 1
ialsis of the the ledllattve n ower
as oennea mtne consutution:ot tne, united.; rv fp,
States. When these ai e carefully ex :ii. 'ffL
ned, I think.-it will clearly be mani felted, .-iftrJ
rio'tf-Vi ir-l nPr' rwitJ Ur tr: i . Llisj rAv.jf'Mii
I 1' f
to- tranftfpi?Kf ti f-ht bf rhriosintr ' lrtorA ' i .-'
ucuptc cinaf wc; iv.'uv iutiici uauv -, ., .,tf ",
pfrmen; WiteverA ' ;V . " ";;;
. By tne- federal censtitdtion ihe legislaw 'if' I
tive'power;! confidetTida president enf, Jl
ateani houise- of ' representatives 'l;f'h?fv" $:-r "
president,' pTarticiptesHin he exercrse of . v.
legislative.
the constitatl
functios irrnree wav;S-Bt " -;, "J
tatioo it i Jnade his dutxto rei ? K4ir
power oi jpitiating prbxeedings It ia -
I i
cti 1 1 1 1 v itt.ii t lu ,li ic. iiitviictit. ui a .iiir.ui jci . - - t i v
ot makingX m9t0nf on the Udr of -ongres - y
He"4lsoNhas the poWerCbf Mnfeking treaties f
without vthc intervention- of the - hope vAf -.
.reptentatiyes., ,vhen tatified bythe sen- ; jv
ajte-treaties. made bv-he pre'sip'cht' arlTtjirivW A
dmsfoand bythe termiofsthe constttutioa txm
become the supreme laws of the land, t Thia t . , t; !
prerogative? then,- qv thdmregident y. l.b. -f...
admittetttpeayery.'g
er ;,;arid tKs isone : the; reasons V whjch; (jC
fnducesineionV'orinio that the!rriCiVi 4 ;
ple ought to- have ,a .dirextrngency the ' '
choice of soimroftantatoffic?V xeinV .
likewise. -another tlcislativepoweVvVliiff
assent is required to'-aU acu;pd6sedby.th'!jl
houses ot Cvj ;res before ;thev become fC;
laws jThisiL -'hat-has beetTeilled qat&'r"?
lined nec:"';ve y but ip all cases inlwhich it'
4oan
sne
sppojTLtment Qt-a pn
has yet n : exercised irhaaimqunteQ ; C
k a'; 36luta.vpte- 1 hese, zi j - stimcient. 0"Tf
to shV whatgreatlpte Hae? ' v ' '
xrthe6WolLtr-entoi-iresiien' if :r
,fgard werelori? had torthe Hst It islati vo :
P4QwersY$tH'w ,e-, cloth '"'lj
'-The mefc. bersof theenate''bih' tcnVi
ri the r!5litntiant$jre'tp. bf-ehcted v.. ; ,