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I . .- - ..... . only - there ' detained but ! flogged, and af terwards': Bent oh 'boartj the Constitution, another Amencanhip; These 'acts' Were notorious, unpalliated r and undenied bv the American government. The practice of. the American government as tending to encourage desertion, was notorious. Their limit of five or four years citizenship in any part of America, aff jrdea a scope' for that purpose, which was obvious and incalculable. Upon ' what ground, then could the American govern ment, "or. M r. Monroe, obiect to a regulation which had for its object a clear and definite preven tion of abuses frit and acknowledged to exist ? The -right of search had long exis ted, and though it had at some times been disputed, vet it stood upon a basis of such solidity and general acknowledge ment in the government of this country, that until he should hear of some adequate substitute, he should hot be persuaded -to 1 tj L l U lt,st, ot opinion, might exibt in the minds 5ve " UP;.. nc UUP' .'T"."' r matters might prevail, there was but one sentiment of accord in the object and principles of the ADDRESS, which he should submit to. their lordships. Even PRINTED AND PUBLISHED BY SALMOJYthJI.L aT three dollars per annum, PAYA BLE YEARLY IN ADVANCE. dveRT'isements Will be inserted 'sgVENTY-FIVE CENTS AjSOJJARE, THE ' T beK, AND THIRTY-FIVE CENTS QllKCH CONTINUATION IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. House of Lords, Thursday Feb. 18. The order of the day being ready Lord Bat hurst rose. , It was not his in- :, .1 11" jention to detain tneir lorasnips long on sutjeci of the numerous papers which ),jc3 been laid upon the table, relative to the associations which had taken place be tween his majesty's government and that f the United States jf America. Uoon ne items or details of those voluminous! documents, which diversity or shades at oi many of their lordships andwhenever it should' be 'the pleasure of the house to 'tazcrioto an examination of those points, he felt not the least disposition to shrink j from scrutiny. His Lordship then briefly luted the 'well-known progress of the ne jrociitions, the early disposition,on the part ol -vmenca, so tany as m iay, towaras aggression. -The orders in council were repealed. He should not then enter into nv discussion respecting the policy which Urst originated, or afterwards revoked, those orders but there was every fair rea ton to suppose jhat as the alledged dissat isfaction of the American government or riginjted and depended " pn those" orders, their abrogation would restore amity , o at least a disposition towards concord and goodwill. -How far those reasonable pros pe'ets were answered, was too well known, lis lordship recapitulated, the measure sfthe armistice, and the spirit evinced by America on that occasionthe subse quent hlockade of the Chesapeake and hewed distinctly the difference acknowl edged by the law of nations, between the right defacto and the right by notification. An opinion heknew had been entertained, that the blockade ought to have been at enre adopted, and rigorously enforced but various considerations of a mercantile nature operated to precentor withhold such rfeor. Not less than five millions of West India property was involved in the questi ng and the pressure of such rigor would ave recoiled on ourselves At the period when America chose to declare war against Engl ind; she had clearly no object ot wise or national policy in view,.; but barely the irospect of surprising our homeward West India fleet. In. that pursuit however, their commander commodore Rodeers, failed Upon that event, yix Monroe, indeed, would consent to an armistice, provided &e British government would relinquish the rigtht of impressment--and upon the admission or reiection of that right, th question of peace or war was made to de- end, . He would ; here call upon their ordships to decide, whether a right always exercised by this country, and not only by, this country, but by otherjr?0i;as to be abandoned on the occasion, alluded r to? America affected to entertain, no tions of maritime rights thatfwere applica ble to general commerce, and the privile ges of independent states-but she had never brought for ward; or -stated specifi cally, or any way that' we had heard? her code of regulations Thernode, for iq stance how sailors belonging to England were to be prevented from entering ihtd the American j service, had never been described. " Of the abuse, in that instance of the American regulations, he should instance thd case otr the' Chesapeake; in which ir appeared, from his majesty's 3eet had been received . f t well as the tenor of the address, itself, that he should not witljpld! his freef assenttojt; jho at the same time, he wished to express his earnest hope, that measure, would be adopted to effect a cordial and effectual re conciliation with America. ; v , ' Lord Vcwfewoiild not detain their lordships Ipng. He should confine him-' self, to that part of that noble marquis's speech which referred to the naval force on the American station. That force was such as, according to-all rational and po litical calculation, j was adequate to its ob ject ; neither couljd itihave been increased or augmented, without withdrawing frim other services what could not be spared. The Baltic force, for instancs, could not have been reduced; without a sacrifice be yond anv proposed object ; arid if he could have anticipated the events that occurred he would not have advised the withdraw ing, for anv trans atlantic purpose, one ship from the f.ltie. ; Marquis Wellesleif fully agreed in the ge neral tenor ot the address. In its justice it V1' A' I induVercyetathcd. Application was tnade to theiAmencan commander for the eurrenderfof those men--and ; tne Amen - tHat no such men were on b6ardVhisship nc JZngnsn oincer oytBn tec vv was not his intention to iustifV)iiroceeded n his complete- knowledge of the fact & , UUUUHUIC lUUbU (tiVut UIVU - VIU C Wttuu The violence, in . the; first .instance, was loudly complained of bvthe American go- r'ernmenW ttut no steps jwhateven, were ta Baenitia v censure ;orx aiscouptenance me trance occured at Annanolis- . where an JmisK sailor had Beep vforcibly; carried on ITiid the Wain; 'Amtriw:!elupiadv'ti6i t different notions or opinions should he entertained respecting the rejection of the American proposition, let us not (said thr noble lord; appear so degraded from habits of trade, or so broken by the urgent and pressing calamities of an unprecedented war, as not to meet with unanimous ac cord in our address to the Prince ..Regent on the present occasion. Here the Ad dress was read. See Commons. rhe marquis of Lansdowne expressed his satisfaction at the statement which the noble secretarv had made, and hoped that the vote of the house would be unanimous in favor of the motioni But while he de livered thatdecided opinion in favor of the address, its principle and its object, he must nevertheless lament, tnat the modes of conciliation which might have been u- sed, were not at the proper season attended to bv his maiesty s ministers. The revoca tion of the orders in council was a measure which he, as well as all the country, could not fail to approve ; yet he, as well as the country at large, had yet to lament thst such a salutary and necessary measure had not .-been previously adopted. But as it seemed to be admitted that the hostile temper of America had been chiefly exci ted by the orders in council, it was in the same measure to be looked to, that hostile temper should abate on the event of the withdrawing or cancelling of that offensive measure. Upon the subject of impressed seamen, that was a practice which rested not Upon abuses. The principle was ac nowledgeci, and could not be disputed by America in reference to the government of En eland. Abuses indeed were always open to correction ; and America sub jects when ascertained to be such, ; were unquestionably exempt from the arm of English' impress He wished not to di Verge from the main question, or to offer any arguments or suggestions which could mp-ur the unanimity t whicn he trusttd would prevail in favorpf the address pro Yet he could not help expressing an earnest wish that notwithstanding all which had pre viously taken place, I whether in the,error or prejudices of ithe different government as spirit of conciliation might take place and-repair. or reconcile as tar as possible, all former diiTerences. t Tpat was, in truth, the clear and substantial policy of both countries ; and Whatever might have been tne opinions euner in America orfrmgiana respecting the justice or policy of the or ders ? in council, the , rescinding of them should naturally have .opened the door of peacel irthre wai a country in the world where the popular opinion had peculiar influence on the government,., that; country was America. ; Peace was the interest, both of America and this, country. ? But while -he professed himself an, advocate tor peace, ne was ,aiso jusx, ana wnereyer war nras jilst, it should be vigorous and ettecuve. i ne j navai rtgnts ; ot t angiand hab! never been disputed and if ever they, Were to be asserted firmly, the present was the 'time for that t assertion. -ilBut how; had the known and acknowledged, superr iorty of the British naveen; displayeil in America r A power comparativelv WeaV had bafiied us, and captured; our merchant snips wiuwui rcsistauuc. kxc: couia not but thinkthat 'ministers lyere" reprehensi ble on ihat ground and J iheyf r ought to naveTaugm; America , a aitterent lesson Heo farapproved of the generalbbserya uoa ot Ui noble mover ; of the address, as -M : ' f M ? v ; I1 I mi ' ft .I 1 1 was the actual cause 1 The right was, no jdoubt, -'an old and. : solemn aright bf Enfei ;ind 5J burfit-Wasnot of aature to admit df Iniodifications A miwoleiiscussibiia might have reduced the whole controversy; to nothing ;H)ut yas.it tb lBe belie ved ti&fcS i America wanted? ithis $ Whocried outhe loudest in tHat .country fbrirar ? "Was iff thei Eastern Srates ? Every man Jknew I VUA it na Wl l,.V.JJ, IUUV VtV J .9U V,; i- as it was, musebme. Almost all the Jm pressed persons, must? be natives of hi Eastern Statesbut they were almost u nanimoUs ; at least the general sense, q the country was distinctly forpeace. Take another point. On the question of the orf ders in council,; where was the war oppp sition to be found ? In those Eastern States which alone could be affected by the orders. ( Hear. Jlear.J These consire rations were of importance to the truth The war was not one of interest, hut of passion and inflamed feelings , He would not now go into the subject which haaV been urged in the debate ; when the-time in the importance of its object in the . should come for examining the conduct of importance of exerting all our powers for his majesty s governmenton that subject, -the end of bringing the enemy to a due s he had no doubt that they could acquis sense of their situation with respect t the themselves to the satisfaction of the housed war with England in the absolute neces- The fact was, that every, preparation, habl sitv, upon ail sound and r nionai views, of been" made consistent with the regarjfr being unanimous in the prosecution of the which we ought to have to other quarter: . present struggle, and pledging the legisla- in which our interests were certainly vnott tureto the governmebt ; no man on those les pressing and peculiar. ?, As to the;iq-' j)oints could be more decided than himself, putations of negligenciefon ourTaavyv fo On those noints, he jthought the call of the the escape of the enemvs squadron ; s noble lord (Btuurst) to the house wise & far from wondering that sich circumstan manly. But he ! wished that the address ' stances sometimes occurred, (he was onlf had stopped here ; that other matters had surprised that they occurred so seldunv not been Suffered to mingle with it: in Lobk to the life ofthat, perhaps siti& short, that it had not touched on the great greatest butf all events the most renowned and momentous question, of the mode in of our naval captains, lord Nelsou. Sefe which the war had been carried onLAVheth- his failures in this instance, and0ie greaS er it had been carried on with the fitting events by . whichVthey were , followed. V vigor, was the raa'm point after all ; though f Hear. JSee that great officer suffer a pow on this he should reserve himself for the , erful fleet, ; wjtf 40,000 troops on board, to occasion, he hoped a speedy one, when come out from the port which he wajs it was to be brought before their lordships, blockading, miss them perhaps ! by th f Hear.) The noble lord opposite (Mel- excess of his naval skill and intrfepiditv viiie) had said, that at the commencement give them time to arrive in Egypt and evets ot the war, the force on the coast of Ame- land their troops before , he, could ccm rica was vastly superior to any that could upwth and destroy them. Let the escape he brought to oppose it but did the noble of the French in 1805 be remembereo lord say how that force had been distribu- when they passed by Gibraltar, reached th ted how far it tfas in the power of the of- West-Indies, returned to Europe, and ne ftcers on th station to meet the enemy ? ver gave an oportunity to the British ad for without some light here, every decla- mini tilthey had joined the Spanish flecO ration of our superiority was idle. Was in Cadiz, and came out to give him! bat it to be said, that the American war was tie ; that battle, in which he consummated not foreseen ? Could there be a ddubt on his glorious life bv the greatesfyictory eve the mind of any man he did not speak of a gained at sea. On the question of neu man of peculiar understanding but a man trals, he (Lord Liverpool) did nqt denjjp ol plain and comnion sense, who perused that they might be pressed by the pressur6 the papers on the table that A nerica of the wir '; but if they were the would plunge into some wild exbess of drew from it peculiar advantages fiufi this nature The; noble lord (Vlelviile) had America a to right to complain ? Wad : asked, would 'We tre all the measures of there any country in EiirOpeH Iwhichf had war before war ? Would we blockade the . in the same time, niade the same advance ports-, shut up the rivers, parade our fleets , in population, commerce tkt"C products olf before her to insult and irritate I So man industry ? Aod; to what Siisheibwe tha pf common sense jurould fecom ileud this Very commerce of which; she was fsojealp either. Bat was j there no other mode ous, but to the superiority of r the navy- i m ist oovious, most easy most ettectuai wouia sne nave a snip on tne seas tnaft and was not that to down and crush, at the , divide her from the, tumults of Europo) first symptom of decided hostility, the na- but for the ships of 'Creafr Britain ? m val means of merica r Thej noble lord f flearf) And was it not reasonable to ha vp v (Melville) said, that instructiops hHd been expected,; that this might be felt by ; her f sent to our officers, to act with vigor im and that if there wa any casual irritation it wouia oe passea over ; anv utttp orjec of dispute, it Wrould be left to the decision of sober and friendly argument ? But,il? Americawas led on by passion. " ,It wati fit that there should be no passion here ; and that a war begun in justice should receivei the support the rational and unammouai 1 1 Y up , i i 'j- 4 !r,1 ( 1". 4l i i IT. 1 M v ,Hi- ' i .'.'it mediately upon the declaration of war. It miglit be so, but what was the use of in structions without the force to fulfil them When their lordships were sending up their address to the Prince, it would not be uawise to insert into it, m resolution to .1 . T - '.- press tne war witn more yi tnan had been hitherto done. He regretted having troubled their lordships even so long, but he wis anxious, that while he approved of tne general ooject or tne auaress, it snouid be nnderstood,Y: :at he differed widely from it as to theconduct of the war. j Lord LvocrbQol must be permitted to no t:ce some o tne concluding expressions ot Ithe noble Iord'N fWellesJey's) 'speech1, It was really to:; oe regrettea tnat . ne naa tbuchedbn subjects which might be dis cussed hereaffer and which onlv interrup ted unanimity so important! on-the present occasion. As to the war's not being fore ' seen, ne couia nut conceive tnat msnpoie friend (lbnii Melville) hear.himiiadsbex rcssed' himself.' The war witc America was' ibhg'foreseeni K"i It ifas lohgplaini that the governinep t of that country wasj Tabre. influenced ; by f passion than i policy raid tnat tne giaay ana 4 unwise step or coming td Open variance withVEfterandasr.be expected But for this thee appearedT no remedy. ; The' motives set forth by Ame- rica . were' nqx her motives. Who could mi If ttit-.. to? i support oi tne legislature. . - . . luOtd WeLeslu explained. He did not allude to the "scapes of the enemy's shipa his jonly objection was to the principles of distribution of our force, , which the nobla lord (Melville) laid down, i Lord 'MefviUe hoped, he should not hot so much wanting in the sense of kb situa- "i . " "... i r- . i i . - .v i:. ra tion, as to state principled oj tne aisrr wUV bution of his majesty s fleet Lord Lansdo vtnt explained. Lord Hoilandin a short speech, exprepi If -l sea rus oenei, uuurom mc extreme nicety n; j of the point pn which the negociatioii brbko lrt' off. it might not becaltother'hopeless jo !:? tioh there could be nooiibtHnathe kii F had a right to theiervicet of the AiKttives ogh 5 ; ' this country, and that the flag ot the merch- - !L t ant 'could H not prbtect; them. ; But; strong ag were-lthe demand America, Jsre"Hiaci.rV made atrbnger in our . day. I-He'accxdent ally, had taken ti'the .StatBobk-ou thei 1 i table.' tand found a Statute dAnhercriacVy. tmg thataoyiirtan nofitoerelv Who-resi; 1 ieyb that tfis rijghtWf impr&Sdht t tied m Eoghmli$ Vany otM''onari 1 L 1 if 11
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