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REPLY TO DOCTOR
IViE'S CHARGES
President Mclver Makes a
Detailed Statement,
IN THE CASE OF MISS IVIE
I
RESIDENT PHYSICIAN AT>VISED
AGAINST IIEi: REMOVAL.
WHY NO TELEGRAM WAS SENT DR. IVIE
President Mover Says Miss Ivie Left the Normal
Five Days Before the First Death Among
the Students cf That Institu
tion Occurred.
To the Editor: In yesterday’s paper
there apinured tin* following article and
editorial comment:
* * *
l UMTICISES THE NORMAL
Dr. <}. M. Ivie Declares the Manage
ment Should be Changed.
To the Editor: The silence of the
{tress in relation to the state of affairs i
sit the Normal and Industrial College in j
Greensboro is, to say the least, aston
ishing. For some unknown reason to !
the public, the press has had but little ;
to say regarding this sad affair. This j
being a Slate institution and dear to !
the hearts of the people of our State, j
Those who have not suffered direct iy
are shocked to know that there exists
Koine where at this institution a cause
that has darkened many homes and
made many sail luarts throughout the
domains of our State. What this cause
may finally be, and who is to blame for
same. I cannot say. However, 1 do
know that there is some existing eir- ;
eumstance that so poisoned the system j
of Lie young ladies in attendance that !
in many eases has resulted in death. 1
X have recently stood .by the grave of
niy beloved sister, who fell a victim to
this deadly poison. 1 was by her bed
side for ten days and nights, she was
also attended by five other physicians,
doing all that medical science and skill
could do, yet with no effect. The dead
ly poison which filled her system was
sufficient to have killed half a dozen
strong men. There is a side to this
sail picture that is hard to understand.
There is a question that the public j
would like to have answered. Why was I
it that these young ladies, our sisters i
and daughters, who were so near and ;
near to our hearts, were kept huddled
in this pest hole, as it were, until the ;
situation was so alarming, with scarce- j
ly no knowledge of the sad state of af
fairs escaping the college domains? it
is now known that several weeks pre
vious to the suspension of this school,
girls were falling in sickness almost as
soldiers in battle. Yet it seems that the
management, of this institution, to whose :
teiiderest care these girls had been en
trusted, all* the while was indifferent,
so far as the public knows, treating
this as a very slight affair, and is
known to have spoken contemptuously
iu regard to it even after deaths had
occurred in the college. When the
news of my sister’s illness reached her
hocus a brother went for her. They
~ seemed loth to have her leave, which
resulted in her remaining at the col
lege amid the poison some days longer.
Later, after my sister had grown much
worse, she was refused the privilege of
sending me a telegram, as to her con
dition. One of her friends wrote me
by letter of her condition. I went for
her at once and found her condition
critical, which resulted in her death. I
learn this has been the experience or
many. What moral or legal right did
the management of this institution have,
to keep these girls confined there under
such critical circumstancesV For com
mon sens*- or the exercise of the least
reasonable judgment was sufficient to
have shown any one that there was
something greatly wrong at this insti
tution. as many girls as were constant
ly falling, in the same condition. This
is indeed a serious affair. If it lie
criminal indifference and neglect on the
part of the management it is nothing
more nor less than murder, if it be
incompetence* it is surely a scandal.
Whatever it may be, it is to be greatly
lamented that our Estate institution
should be desecrated by a management
who for any reason would jeopardize
the lives of innocent girls trusted to
their care. Were not their lives more
sacred than the public welfare and
name of this institution? Again, were
these girls prisoners of war that they
should be held together under any cir
cumstances? And it is indeed heart
lending, either for criminal iuffifferenec
or incompetence, to have them kept
confined amid an epidemic whose start
ling rapidity was enough to alarm the
dull Arab of the heathen world. Yet
no word was spoken, no action was ta
ken. until the situation was so grave
as to force its own way into the pub
lic. If even common sense had ruled
at this institution, school would have
been suspended before my sister and
many others wort* taken sick. Tne
Normal and Industrial College has been
the pride of our State, and from this
standpoint, aside from the Joss of on?
loved ones, this sad affair is much -to be
regretted. Hut whatever has been oui
feeling in the past toward this institu
tion, however much we have loved it,
so long as it remains under the same
management, if deserves to become a
by-word and reproach among all de
cent institutions of *>ur land.
G. M. IVIE. M. I>.
Stoueville, N. C.
| We regret that Dr. Ivie feels called
upon to write in this strain. Readers of
this paper know that nothing has been
kept from the public, but that this {ta
per, along with others, has insisted that
the facts in the case be ascertained and
made public. We have no reason to
belk v* that this lias not already beet*
done. —Ed.]
* * *
It is a painful duty that compels un
to appear to dispute or contend in any
way. publicly or privately, with a man
unde:- sore affliction, but there arc* a
lew statements iiu Dr. Ivic’s article
which it would lie wrong for me not to
correct:
'lbis letter either charges dit igtly on
produces the impression: N
1. That'the management of this College
was unwilling for his sister to go home. (
2. That the management of the col
lege refused to allow his sister to tele
graph to him.
ff. 'That the management ought to have
seen the trouble and closed the college]
before his sister and others became illj
and that from some reprehensible into-:
live the truth was kept from those who
had a right to the information.
4. “That the nurnagemeuit was known
to speak contemptuously in regard to it J
tmeaning the illness of the students)’
even after deaths luid occurred a tne
college.”
In order to understand the conditions
it must lie remembered that .Miss 1 vie
left the college five clays before the first
death among the students occurred, and
when the management, including the phy-j
sii-ians, did not think that there was a;
case of illness in tin* college that was
critical. She reached hemic November
loth turd died November 24th.
'Miss Ivie had gone to the Winston fair
on Thursday, October 2bt.h. aind our class
records show that sire attended recita
tions on October lUffh and 31st, being the;
Monday and Tuesday following. She.
was absent from her classes the other
three days of this week, namely, Novems j
her Ist. 2nd and 3rd.
Otn Sunday, November olh. when s'he
had missed only three days front her
classes, her brother, Air. A. I). Ivie, of
Leaksville, living in her home, came to]
see her and expressed a desire to take!
her home. Fpon Ills telling me that his;
sister would he obliged to go several:
miles, (twelve miles, I think it was), j
across The country, I called liis attention!
to the risk he would be taking, blit said
that if he and the resident physician j
thought it wise for liis sister to be inov- j
ed I would make no objection. The phy-j
sician advised against her going on the]
ground, I am informed, that she was not
strong enough to make the trip. Mr.
Ivie was at the college the next day. the
<!th instant, and on the 7th from Leaics
ville wrote the following letter to the res
ident physician of the college:
Leaksville. N. C.. Nov. 7. IWK).
Dr. Gove, Greensboro. N. F.:
Dear Madam: After considering my:
sister’s ease I thought best not to try j
to bring her home, also I would not have!
thought of moving her against your 1
wishes after I fully understood your]
opinion in the matter. Will you not
please let me know the* first day you
think it prudent for her to undertake the
trip?
1 thank you very match for your courte
ous attention to my sis or.
Very truly,
A. D. IVIE.
On November Oth. however, two days
later. Mr. Ivie returned, and <m the
morning of the K'tli instant he aid ln<
brother. Dr. G. M. Ivie. of Stoueville.,
took their sister homo. 1 did not see I)r. j
I vie myself. Dr. Gove informs me that
sin* told Mr. Ivie that she sti/1 thought
it dangerous to move bis sister, possibly
more so than, it would hare been to move
her on the Monday lie fore. All respon
sibility for moving her, therefore, was
assumed by Mr. Ivie and Dr. Ivie. That
they did what they thought !>•>■' for
their sister l have net the shadow of a.
doubt, and I am equally confident that at
all times those connected with the man
agement of this college advised aa:,d did |
what they thought *wan for her good.
I mention Those circumstances because
the management is charge 1 with being
“loth to have her leave, which resulted
in her remaining at the college amid the
poison some days longer.”
Tile following letter to Dr. Gove \\ i 1
show that apparently there existed at
that time nothing but kind:v feeling to
wards the college:
Leaksville, N. F. Nov. It). 18W>.
Dr. Gove. Greensboro. N.
My Dear Madam: We arriv'd home
all safe with our sister just before 12
o’clock today. B’h- stood the trip as
well a.s we could expect, but got vt-’-y
restless and nervous just before reach
ing home. Bhe has bien resting fairly
well tliis afternoon, a little nervous.
I wish to again t'ha ik you an l also
others who were so kind to m;. -ister.
Hhe seems to appreciate it so much, says
she feels like she received even more
than her share of attention. With I e«t
wishes, I am,
Very sincerely,
D. IVIE.
1 have asked Miss Kirkland, our Lady
Principal, in regard to the telegram of
which Dr. I tie speaks. Miss Kirkland’s
response is as follows:
Greensboro, N. C., Dee. LS, 18ff9.
President Charles D. Mclver.
/My IK-ar Sir: In reply to your in
quiry .1 will say that on the afternoon of
tin- 7th or the Bth of November, Miss
Ivie sent me by one of her room mates
a written message to her 1 wot her. Dr.
Ivie. of Stoueville, which she asked I
would send by telegraph.. The message
was a request that Dr. Ivie would come
to see her. I went to Dr. Gove, wish
ing her endorsement of any step that. I
should take with refer*truce to one of her
patients. Fpon reading the telegram
she advised that Miss Ivie should write
to her brother, instead of telegraphing, as
he would receive the letter only a few
hours later, and the telegram might
alarm him unnecessarily. 1 went To Miss
Trie's room and told her what I had
done, and The advice that Dr. Gove had
given. She assented without demur,
saying. ‘A ery well, I will send a letter.”
Very truly yours,
S. M. KIRKLAND.
i )n Saturday. Deceinlier 2nd, I receiv
ed the following lot ter from Dr. Ivie. It
is the only letter received by me from
Dr. Ivie or any other member of the
family since Miss Ivie left the college:
Stonevillo, N. <*., Dee. 1. 1X1)9.
President Mclver. Greensboro, N. F.:
Sir: 1 wish, only, to ask you a qu**s
tion. Who should have looked after the
sanitary condition of the Normal (Al
lege? A week ago tonight..my dear sweet
sister’s soul took its flight to the God
who giveth it. She died of poison, due
to the infamous neglect of some one or
laxly of men. Was it your neglect, if so.
say so. If not, whose was it? Please
answer me at once and oblige,
Yours, etc.,
G. M. IVIE, M. D.
To this letter 1 sent the following re
ply:
December •’>, L>,)9.
Dr. G. M. Ivie, Stoiiw-ville. N.
My Dear Sir: In reply to your letter of
December Ist. I mail you a eoiiy of a
[ paper containing the report of Dr. R. 11.
THR NEWS AND OBSERVER, SUNDAY MORNING, DECEMBER 21, 1899.
Lewis, Secretary of tin- State Board of
Health.
I think that, if it has taken Tin- active
and almost daily investigations of ex
perts and specialists more than two weeks
to discover the cans** of the outbreak of
fever, it could hardly ho expected that
any one not aiu expert could Have fore
seen that eattse before even the fever ap
peared and showed that the cause exist
ed.
This is all that 1 shall say to you in
defense of the management of the col
lege.
I have no heart To argue with a man
overwhelmed by-such a bereavement as
yours has been. I know that I am not
responsible for your sister’s illness, and
at another time you would not write so
bitterly.
As I said to you in a former letter
(this was a letter of sympa
thy to the family addressed. I
think, to Mr. A. D. Ivie. ’wlw
lived at Leaksville, and who was the
only member of the family I had met.)
I have profound sympathy with you and
your family in the great loss you have
sustained.
Very truly yours.
’CHARLES I>. MeIVE/R.
I do not understand what is meant
by the statement That the management
had spoken contemptuously of the illness
of the students. I know of nothing that
has been said that would justify tin*
statement.
If. however, this is a part of a general
charge of hearth-ssttess on the part of
those connected with the management,
and of a lack of sympathy and consul- :*-
ation for The students, I am perfectly
willing for the students themselves to
pass judgment upon the matter.
Next to th*> families of those who have
died, the keenest sufferers in all this
tragedy and sad bereavement have been
and are the officers anil faculty of this
college. There is not one among them
who lias not l'clt personally tin* affliction
that has conic To us all. aintd there is not
one who would not have done anything
possible to have prevented the sickness
and saved the life of tlu* beautiful an 1
admirable young woman whose death is
mourned not it) rely as a personal be
reavement but as a distinct loss to tnis
college.
Before closing l desire to say that at
no time have 1 prevented any .student
from w riting or telegraphing anything she
chose to write or telegraph to her home
people or to others. So far from doing
so during the recent epidemic, 1 formal
ly ask***l tlu* students to give tin* exact
Tacts to their home people; and when I
was informed by out* physicians, that any
student’s illness threatened to become
serious, I immediately informed by let
ter or telegram the parents or guardian.
That 1 did not writ** to Miss Ivie’s home
people a bout her illness w as due to the
fact that, before she was considered
seriously ill. and when she had missed
only three days from her classes, her
brother spent two days with her. and
three days thereafter came with Dr.
1 vie and took her home.
There was only one ease of serious ill
ness in tin* college during the nnmtb of
October and tin* student who had Ib.it
ease recovered. In fact, there was less
sickness during that month, as show n by
lln* daily repniis of tlu* resident physi
cian and the daily records of the facul
ty. than 1 have ever known in the col
lege <luring tin* same month in any year.
CHARLES D. McIVER.
President.
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A CHRISTMAS CORRESPONDENCE
From her to him:
“Dear Jim.
I’m so perplexed,
So alto-ether tired out and vexed;
Pv,- tramped through miles and miles
and miles of store,
p ve handled, gloves and ties and trash
galore.
The girls arc all disposed of —any stuff
That looks exjictmsive's always good
enough-—■
But you men, who grow humorous at a
tie
And mock ns for the poor cigars we buy.
(This wisdom isn’t (Turned from out tlu
pater’s—
For my enlightenment, see comic papers:
You know a smoking cap would mak*
you mad:
Please, i-s there anything you haven’t
had?
Jnst mention any trifle you prefer—
What is it that you want for ‘Christinas,
sir.
And I ""'ill bless you with my latest
breath,
Most cordially, your friend.
Elizabeth.”
“Dear Girl.” he wrote.
“I’m sorry that you’re harassed,
Although you've made me frightfully em
barrassed.
Each Christmas of my life I’ve been so
haunted
By all the awful things I haven't wanted.
I hardly can believe the tale is true
That I'm at last to have a thing. I do.
In fact, your letter really seems to say.
You are to dictate. I am to obey.
8o poor, rash child, no longer 1 demur;
These are the little trifles 1 prefer;
Impriinus them': two certain eyes of blue
That tell unhid the hidden thoughts of
you;
Second: your'strong, young hands, tiler'
to lend
Their tender strength to help and bob
a friend;
And third: that laugh of j* urs the
rings as gay
As happy bells upon a holiday:
And fourth: your sweetness tmdemess
hud truth; 1
Tin* glory and the gladness of your youtn
Dear little Madam Santa Flans, a line
To tell me if this present may be mine.
Oh. child, be generous this Christmas
day,
And your petitioner will ever pray
The Yisrht to sign himself, with sweet
intent, . .
Always your grateful, glad
Theodosia Pickering Garrison in “Life.
Christmas Time in Bill.
By FRANK L. STANTON.
Thai* ain’t no times like <d’ times, hoys.
no matter what they say—
No times that’s ever goin’ ter come l’Kc
them that’s gone away:
An' sc. that takes me hack ag’in ter ' al
ley, plain an* hill.
An* all the frosty fields we knowc-d.
an’ Christmas times in Bill!
Thar warn’t a single county—an that*
wuz lots, you know —
Could show up finer ’taters. or a fuller
cotton row.
An’ as fer juicy Mountain Dew* —it flow
ed from every still.
An’ thar warn’ no punier women than
the gals we sparked in Bill!
That* ain’t no times like -ol* times, hoys!
1 min’ one Christmas night.
When tin* court house floor wuz sanded.
an*' the fiddles goin’ right.
How we whirled our rosy pardners in
tin* liveliest kind o’ way,
An* kissed ’em, in tin* corners, and
danced inter the day!
An’ how thar come six weddins’ from
that Christmas dance, an’ how
(I tell you. I kin feel it whar my heart’s
a-heatin’ now)
I didn’t mind the slipp’ry snow that
laid as white ns foam.
With my arms erotin’ the widder on the
high road, goin* home!
An’ how she said she never-never—
never could fergit
The Inisbnn’ what had gone before —wuz
mournin’ fer him yit!
But when I tol’ her that I’d keep that
grave o’ his right green,
She loaned ag’in my buzzorn—havin’ no
w liar's else ter lean.
<s S» O
Thar ain’t no time like ol’ times, boys,
no matter what they say!
Thar ain’t no Christmas times like
them we knowed so fur away:
But Christmas takes me hack ag'n ter
valley, plain an’ hill—
I’er tin* dancin’ tin’ the widder that
Christmas night iu Bill!
Christmas Chimes.
Blow high, blow* low! Across the snow
'l ln* joyous chimes an* pealing.
With gladsome sound they bring around
A soft forgiving feeling;
Tho loving cup to brim fill up
And toast to friends absenting;
W it h greetings sweet our lov’d ones meet,
With not a voice dissenting.
Blow* high, blow low! Across the snow*
We welcome w intry weather;
Lot datne and sire, around the fire.
Remember past together;
Lit youth from age learn lessons sage
And profit by the teaching
That Christmas < ln-et* rings once a year
The mirth without the preaching.
Blow high, blow low! Across the snow,
Whilst Christmas bells are pealing.
The thankful heart shall joy impart
To those ’neatb burdens reeling*.
Let Christinas time with thought sub
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The seasons ne’er dissever.
Though nil thy days the sad upraise.
Then joy shall last forever.
Cecil J. Denton in "Life.”
To a Little One.
There's nothing for thy little heart:
To ever ponder on:
Thou’lt have a dear, sweet Christmas,
Dear heart, when 1 am gone.
1 si<*> the Christmas children sweet —
Ilnur tin* glad echoes of their feet,
Aml .Toy their lit tle life shall meet.
Dear heart, when I am gone.
Yet still remember, when above
This heart shall break the dawn.
It was the sweetness of tliy Jove
That kept it beating on.
And still, when o’er the song-swept dells
Some memory of music swells.
Remember, in the Christinas bells,
The heart, dear, that is gone.
—F. L. Stanton.
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Potash. Planters’ Bone and Potash Mixture. Old Dominion High Grade Bona
Phosphate. Royster’s High tirade Acid Phosphate. Old Dominion Special
Wheat Guano, &c., &e. There are none like them. Ask all the largaat whtat
grower*. See your nearest Agent, or write to us direct.
OLD DOMINION GUANO COMPANY,
Braach Virgluia-Carolina Cheat. Oa.,
Norfolk. Va.
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Buys one Gallon of our famous Belluiont, Ivy., Rye whiskey, 10 years old
or Sherwood, Md., Rye whiskey, 10 years old. Express freight prepaid to any
point in North Carolina.
$3.00
Buys one gallon of our Fawndale Ivy. Rye or Nelson County, Ky. Bourbon
w 7 hiskey, both 0 years old and absolutely pure. We prepay express freight to
any jioiut in North Carolina on receipt of price.
We pack these whiskies in 1 gallon jugs or 4 full quart bottles in a plain case.
We ship goods with a full guarantee of their age and purity, and should
they not give entire satisfaction, can be returned at our expense and the
money will be refunded.
A price list of our entire line of high grade wines and liquors will be fur
nished upon application.
ACiVIE WINE COMPANY,
Raleigh, N. C.
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