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, ; r- : " r'","i.",. 2 " . , ' f-:, f--?- i - '" r - -. - J vu:: i 1 : 3 f J I, i ' 5 r-j IV baptism in the twelfth century, (they plunged the candidate in the sactedVontPto show them - rial operation that sacrament hath'oa the aouU? Also, Belarminey Cardinal Hossius, Montanus, Greteerj a. bitter? eniemj- and persecutor, Lim- kch Affii,'Mostieiiii arid otes , Epsalof tli& doctrines of the Waldenses as similar to those of ? Baptists at the present ;dajwr : , . TAtsevtestimofiiair6-- think, establish the fact thai the ancient Waldenses rejected-; infant .baptism, and would now be called Baptists., It is a humUing fact that historians have generally xnlsrepresented and soinetim.es abused that prlmu - tire peopled ' We cannot leave thera without dwelling for few ! inoments :npon tjba 'dreadful persecutions which they have experienced from thoss who ought to have been their friends and protestors. But we must leave : this for, the. next number of F 11 1 D A 1 F E B E V A E f 6V J 1 8 5 2 BtTir&l ia Baleign ? The interest in the subject of religion itill continue. Mora than UYjr. person hTe proreaaeetveon version, in connection with the labors of bro.lkynoldson. We eopy from the Raleigh Standard a notice of the meet ings. ? 'i '-r "j '." ' " - " j . W. learn that much' interest has been excited in several congregations in this City, during a few weeks jast, on the subject of an active and living Christian iaith- A oomber ofpenoiu ha-re jrofesel to be coa ,' verted; and the xeal of the Ministers and members of the Presbyterian, Baptist and Christian Churches -continnes warm anil unabated, i- - j :- ' We bad the pleasure, a few evenings sinee, of heat ing the Her. Mr. Reynoldson, of the Baptist Church. He Is a good speaker, and, evidently, a most effective Treacher of The Word. ... He possesses a fine imagi nation, hut the marked characteristic of it is, that he invariably applies It, so" far as we could judge in a practical and useful manner. We were not surprised, rafter we had heard him, at the. stirring and beneficial influence exerted by his preaching. ' - ... - ......... . ' ' ' t Reasons for Withdrawing from the EpisctH palCbarch; Published by Request. (From a Manuscript of 1S25, with occasional addi- . tions of present date. J . r : LtTTEl VII. agreeably to what y ou deem the true! principles and policy of the church at whose bead yoir are pladed. Should not therefore" a letter from you give me Rea son to change my purpose,! contemplate aesignjng my present charge in July if U can - make arrange ments with our . vestry- on that measure, i If ? Mr, Hathaway is ordained at that time, he might consent to riay &ni preach until tuft fcongregauta huuM siip- ply-themserves with another pastor, or employ-Sam if they were mutually satisfied. If I should retire 1 will not take any step precipitately. Should God spare ray.lifc I will by his hem examine and endef v our to find out the truth and if I am in an i erroii I pray that the spirit of truth may lead roe into. all;the truth and preserre me from doing anything that toll be detrimental to religion or to my own saryatioa. Will yoa he kind enough to write me ;a3 ;popnas convenient t This subject has cost me, many anx ious moments and the idea of - losing the friendship of those with rhbm I hare heen' associated is ,ex tremely painful to me.. But I know you love can dour and openness and I would wish to act and speak without disguise.' Perhaps I ought to have 1 spoken out 'these sentiments in the Convention when jthe motionvwas made to pnnt the Coayention sermott.? I have since regretted 1 did not. It did "not occur ! to me- The occasion is past and the present is the'on ly one-left -Be assured sir that I entertain a ainwre respect for yonr personal character and a firm per suasion of your disinterested zeal for th "causa, of the Redeemer, altho' I am compelled to differ so wftde- iy about the best means or promoting mat cause Veiy respectfully your obedient serv t, TO Till EDnOl.OF THI BlBLIClL BECORDIKi ; . I now send you the correspondence, promised in my last, between Bp. Ravenseroft and myself, occa sioned by my determination' to withdraw from "the church over which he presided. You will see that the prominent stumbling block and cause of alienation there stated is what are usually called " high church principles;''- that is a belief that the . ministry of Christ's church, as constituted by the Apostles, con sists of three Orders:' Bishops, Priests and Deacons,- ana ia lawful in no Other form that all authority to preach the gospel and administer the sacraments bishop,' and therefore that the ministerial acts and lerrices of men not episcopally ordained arr an uri-j jawioi assumption, onen&ive 10 uou j sou 01 cuuree, that the laity who attend on such ; unauthorized ad - ministrations, are guilty of the sin of schism, more or Jess criminal according as their opportunilies of en lightenment on the subject have been greater or less. This scheme of an exclusive hierarchy appeared , to rae, in itself a sufficient cause of separation f 'and . therefore, I suppose, I did not mention my other dif ficulties about the Baptismal and Confirmation Ser: ' vices to the Bishop in this correspondence, because, ' a I saw that high "church 'principles would Jdrive me froni thc Episcopal church at any .rate, f it was needless to enter into a. tedious " con tfoverpy about other 'matters of offense when ther would afi he got rid of by the dissolution of my present church ties and obligations. I say I sujTpose.this was the reason why I did not bring forward those other dimculties in my correspondence with the : Bishop ) because I .cannot recollect, at this distance of time, ' the order of succession on which this or that difficulty or griev- . ance pressed most strongly on my mind. ; secj from .thl JelUrft Which 1 lien wrote! tW 1 could not ha remained a. clergyman of the Episcopal church, " this Diocess at least, even if I had not had the scru ples above stated against certain parts of the ' Iitttr- . - When I first thought of sending ;you this corres ; pondence, I had some doubt whether I had a, right lo pnblish the ishop letters to me, as it might be said j rag over rt thft4 en9 , now given, ? Id f elt convinced ihat the writer if alive would, so far from objecting o its puhlication, he glad it should accompany my pari of the correspondence, as being necessary to do him justice ; and I think any of his friends who may . aee it here, will think it does credit to him, as being 4 another sample of that straight-forward honesty and that sincerity and warmth of heart which were such ... honorable features of his character. I have omitted v only a line or two-relating to a private matterytfot connected with the argument nBfGiti ; is Correspondence with Bishop Rax&iscroft.. ? '4'-- '451 'fxnxttWiXi May 20th, 1824. ' Rt- Rit. 'Asd Dfiia Snu ";4:?4K4tt " I am nbw aoot to perform one of the most trying " duties that f have erer been called to in the . course of my life: My Trews on many points fire so dif J ferent from' y oat's the sentiments proclaimeJ4in ; . your Convention sermon, as those which you mean to act upon to the fullest extent, which you wish us to act upon and .which it is your professed determin ; ation to breathe into all the members of our church iathe Diocess, are so repugnant to my feelings, that 1 cannot co-operate in the , maintenance and propa gation of them ' Placed here and a mfember' of the standing eonimittee I am called upon and expected to uo so -a pan m wmch i am conscious 1 cannot, act 4 J withany zeal or cordiality. Jjfjpi It is better therefore that some person should occu ' py the situation whose views are more coincident with your own. The tenour ofyour official sermons and yoqr free declarations in conversation show .that .you consider all othep denominations as inexcusable achismatics,- and out of the covenant of mercy. I looi upon tnenv as branches of Christ's church eqaal 5 ly with "Episcopaliaasr. evidently doing hia! work, " bearing his image, and owned and blessed by Hinu Thinkinff so I cannot hear to be alwavs stanum? ia - a hostile and militant attitude towards my christian , brethren publicly claiminz on all occasions an offen- . , aire superiority and casting contempt on their minis try and ordinances. "Holding such sentiments, I can not heartily wish success to the Episcopal church if characterized by and identified with those exclusive tenets urged in your Convention sermon. . . .-..r.. ' These tenets when insisted on and pressed .as of '' V4ch Tital importance and when other christians are .harshly ceasured for their dissent, appear to me cal- culatpd to mar the Terr end of our religion : heayenly aTsctis and hrolherly JoTe4 But as, you are so , decileilf of an opposite opinien, there seems to be r-o hope d a cordial concurrence between us in the promouon oj jn parucutar views m tne JK.piscopal church. Iwoatj Ihereforel rather withdraw from liia ta!ioii and give placf to one whoani act more'positioa who is to dispute 4 , . RxixicBt NC., May, 182 RiriiisD akd Dcaa Sra : . t P.Sj . f . . i i I have receired on i Saturday your favour of:ttjhe 20th instant I have given to the contents the eon sideratiott due to them and but for the intervention of the Sabbath, would have put you in possession jbf my reply a day earlier than you will receive thiif . ' The decided manner in which yoa declare your in ability to propagate,-o co-operate, in the support jpf "the principles hid ddwn in my Convention senaai, expressed in other of my official sermons, and in-the pre-declarations of my general conversationV could only require from me, in answer thereto, the expres sion of , the 6incerest regret, that in' points so funda- mental, and so essential to harmbny both of opinion and action, so insuperable a bar should exist between us. - And as I must believe, that you have not thus expressed yourself, "without the most serious consid eration, without a deep and careful ''examination jf the subject and a full persuasion, that you caiinet suhscribe to the dodrink of '"the cJnirch as held ;knd expressed by me, in the official declarations above mentioned, without doing violence, not to your feel ings but to your conscience I am bound to respect the candour and integrity with which your determi nation is announced ; while I acquiesce (with wiai ever pain to myself): in the resolution you havef ta ken to withdraw from your present situation, and as an almost necessary consequence, from the churchy -; But as a subsequent part of your communication, a.n ntniner fop the hone.' that a. letter from me. may produce some influence on your proceedings in ins case. 1 verv Mnw muti it t u mi ter on the merits of the disputed subject but tof re quest you, to let the present heat on. your mind sub- side; not to take your stand, and commit yourself on a subiect. which vou sav,l"if God spares your life, Hr6n will examine, and endeavor to And tlie train , .DUt orthwith. as vou are, to ' examine, and when. satis fied, to decide. " Thus had you done, the pain of this letter, from and to you, would have been spared me. For it is evident, that while the first part of youfle ler is decided, as that of one, who had searched hail was sati.sfied-4-the latter "part is that of one, acting under the influence of morbid feeling and unsettled t . - i ... " ii opinion, rr v. n v.. ; . a M v dear and Reverend brother, permit me to ksk vou. fas one ho trulv admires vour excellent -arid auiiiiuiv quuiies, anu louca y uui cumiuri auu es tablishment, irf what is precious beyond worlds) ijow ar are tne conclusions youtmnic you nave corns m on this subiect tne result 01 tnat senons examina tion which itTnerits, or the. proceeds of -early SSrpJ pression and popular prejudication ? Has the , ques tion ever passed under review, in that special desig nation, as a jnatter of fact, which precludes ail reas oning except from it 7 Have not the .workings of your mind, been . aprton, that is, from an exisfidg state of things in relation to the church of Got, id wnat snouid be the loundation ratcer man irocqftne foundation as declared in the word of God, to what should be the existing state of things 1 and have not the opinions of great and good men,' tho' dissenters, weighed heavily, if not pleasantly, against the plain declarations of God's word 1 ..These are enauiriej which enter into any fair determination of this sutl ject, nor can we honestly meet it. without giving them their due weiztit. .. ?;: : ,. : ' i.- f , Are the opinions which you consider as exclusively mine mine-only or those of that one Catholic and apostolic eharchv whose interests I am most soleinh- ly sworn to watch over, to subserve and promote- and from which, I stand engaged to drive away all erroneous and strange doctrine and both privately and openly, to call upon and encourage- others to do the same? . Here let me request you to reatl over carefully the office for ordering of Priests and cohSef crauon oi cisnops, with m comtnents 1 thereupon an uie new iamuy l rayer cook, parucuiariy me - mini and fourth questions put to you, at your ordination. Are inese opinions, so aesutute m sapport, irpm Scripture, from reason, from usage, 6ir times as old as that of any contrary persuasion-rthat they, may be put on and off according to the fluctuations of Ca pricious feeling t," Is the .vital, doctrine of the unity of the church cctnpalible ! with the present state f of the christian .-world S. Is the . opinion yon.. - express, that all classes of dissenters, "are branches Christ's ftuttftk eflJenllv Join? lis wort, Ua'rlnff kis imiee. and owned and blessed - by him, reconciliable with the articles, doctrines, liturgy and,, worship; of ? Ijhat cnurco, 10 wmcn you nave suDscriDea, ana whose commission in consequence you bear? ' ' And are you prepared to say to the world, that you took your or dination 'vows upon you, without due consideration-: that you now find you have heen in an' error that there is no such thing as a prescribed commission for the administration " of , things spiritual-r4)Ut, that ih'e un verifiable private movement of , every man's mini is the standard to which we are to resort for private comfort and public assurance in matters of faith,' and the appointments of human authority, fully sufficient to give effect to the unspeakable sanctions, under wuicu iuc uiiujsicrs 01 vurisi eniorce me conditions of the gospel 1 j For to this the 1 principle as avowed by you, reaches out, nor can you atop short of; it aor can you reasonably, refuse the . wildest enthusir ast, that ever perverted Scripture, as a branch of Christ's church. They all stand on the same level Quakers, .shaking Quakers, Millewarians, South Cbttians, &c &e. with Presbyterians! Methodists and Bapii5 nor can tne wit or man so modifr the f t;:- r-: i ; . 1 Dnnciuie as to avoH vuio tuuwuaiuu iroui 11. . i Uive me leave to, deplore, j"ai ?i nave frequently witnessedV in matters where feeling is allowed to su- percede judgment, especially in - re ligious. i matters that isthe making a person say more than he ex pressed.' When did you ever hear me say publicly or privately, that I considered all other denbmina- inexcusable. schismatics, and trat of , the. cove nant of mercy r That I consider them schismatics is strictly true ; but that ' I have ever failed to ex press my hope and trust, that he who knows, how to have compassion on the ignorant and them that are out of the wayywnuld make the necessary allowan ces for invincible prejudice and unavoidable igno rance, is not true-and yourself are ; my. witness for you have heard me invite them to partake of the symbols of our common hope, which you are sure I would not have done, had considered them as sin ning-against knowledge,-aniL therefore only; inexcu sable.., Jut am I thereiore to seep silence, and not to warn them of the danger of their schism I ' lias that sin, ceased to be possiblef or has it lost it dead ly quality T Has charity changed its character and come now to be projwfV applied to opinions and not, as of old, to persons, and a spurious, and insidi ous liberality of 6entiment,Hnake all classes of opin ion, equally safe, in the salvation of an immortal soul I - This you will say is "putting an extreme case -be it so. But where, I ask, are we to draw the line having once legalised separation where are we to stop at what point is human opinion to be taken as the standard, and with what character of certain ty is it to be invested to be sale what is to determine a perversion of .Scripture, or a true ex- yours, or . mine, or ahothers-hpw U a heresy to h detected-r-if the same' principles which! decide a heretick, and not available' U determine "a schismatic 1 iExcuse me for, hringing toyour recollection .a- question put to you by myself in Newbern, respecting that peti tion in the Litanyy which prays that we.may de livered from all ialse; )ioctrine Jieresyl and? scbistn, anl for asking you, If you nave neveHeriously met it and ascertained what: you ..really ? meant, when you presented it to God for yourself and the congre gation whose devotions you were leading. f well remember that I put fepestioi o you In ray way, as calculated to lead your mind to the truth of the present difficulty.. I knew you to be sincere, and that you ; would never again use it, until "you had some fixed notion of rwhat the? petition contained. What then is that notion t i What mean jou,.when you thus put up your, prayer to God, in the words of the fathers of the 'church 1 ' For I fear not to say, that it I embraces the whole .difficulty now weighing upon you and jne,' perhaps upon many others. . My dear brother, through wha strange optics do our prejudices and prepossessions cause ua to Jook.-i Is ther declaration of-the truth the pressing-our Ennciples on the authority of Scripture and reason a ostile and militant attitude ? ' Is vthe denunciation of error- publicly' made, an arTOgaossumption of suoerioritv over others 1 ; Is the ref. At to acknowl- fedge. a self-constituted ministry t?:&f church to he considered as casting 'c6ntempt;? e faulty sense oi tnat word, upon sucoa minisy fe ia meir wrui nances! Then were St Paul a ther apostles the most contentious, arrogant f oatemptuous men in the "world the most' h; fcto' heavenly affections that ever lived. ; - YJiagj $x censure have I uttered against any: denomma; of ' christians! Let the passage be. produced, in 4v.iwords, and "not in the Verdict of their ' consciericer Jwho' felt what was spoken as a general truth, to oepecially- true of themselves. I beseech you charge me. not .with any such fault laying at my door things which "I know not-bOYe all chirge Die not xrith 1 thd con- elusions of others, whether true or- false but show that what 1 take as a fact, is not so-that myt,au- thority is unscripturaV In reasoning - inconclusive, mv deductions unfounded. Then will I thank you, or any other dissenter or .churchman; and publicly read my. recantation ol any sucn sentiment i ever nttered.: Until this is done, let not the stumbling block against which you have fallen, be,chargeJ as- laid by me. No charge it to its proper account, an ill considered,' or an ill digested view of divine truth a leaning to the opinions okmen, you have -early been' taught to venerate, and. an amiable, but impo tent wish, that all professions, 'discordant as' they are--might nevertheless he found right- " ; ' v u Pardon me, I pray you, in thus speaking. I do it not to ofiend, but to. strike -your attention to re move the scales from your eyes. I wish not lo lose you- I wish not to excite the tumult which your in tention if carried into eScct, will excite, but I fear neither .the One nor : the other, but for your sake and however fearful r must hold fast by the truth, according to my best view of it. So must you also and if we thus act in simplicity and godly sinceri ty, itwill furnish a consolation against all conse quences, r ,: ' vWUcre you to thini me wronj, in tha at truths and interests of the gospel, take the wconand show it to me -not as a matter of private feeling, not as conflicting with the views or principles of other de- nominations- but as at variance with Scripture, with primitive truth and order with our reformers, with the articles doctrines and liturgy of that church, whose commission I bear whose interests I; am bound to guard. This do, and I will thank you : this do, ana yoa will render a public service to the church of which, you are' a minister, and to the cause ia defence of which you are set;en; i ) -.-. ' : In conclusion, let me ask you once more, Is there no long Standing difficulty on your mind, made more prominent by recent circumstances ? roiilthe very bottom of my heart, I pity the dilemmi innvrch you feel yourself placed, and would do "anytLiB shQit of a aereiicnon oi principles 10 renege jou. ,'i icojpevi , . . . i . , - j ; i y. t ,1 S ; I. I -.1 i principle in every man,' no matter how much it con- ilets with my own. J-loveJhejaan, wJ)iKia-apen- ly and candidly on his principles fnofc would , I take from any man, or set of men', the right which I hold sacred of? judging and acting for ' myself bo f orfei ture, of . esteem or loss of friendship with former as sociates, can follow a conscientious discharge of du-i ty nor can 1 conceive why you" should anticipate it, if such are the grounds of your conduct; y- : Let me beseech you .however, to be very sure that It Is conscience, and not feeling or cqnvenience, which actuates you; let me entreat you to consider the course ' yoa shall take,: as; the turning point of your-f utnre jespectability and happiness r-not to say usefulness and let me. again beg vou, not to be of- fended with the plainness and roughness of the poor creature who now addressesyou-i-who.id-very sen- sioie oi nis great aenciency in mar smooip ana con ciliatins address which' is not amon his gifts, but who most sincerely 'off ers you any help haiaay he sup posed to - possess and his poor nravers that 'the spirit of truth may preside aver all your meditations may guide you to your doty to' your comfort, to the purposes of God with you in this life and to his glory an a-better. . - - - T XT i A r "f - . ' ,.lur ouecuuaaic jnenu nu r-trr v Jill i, v w ' -'Jjrd. TCRAvtsscKort. i . , , , fiVETTETIUE,. JunQ.14lb, 1824. Rt. Rev. .and Dsar Sir ; , . , t IteceWed your favoaf of the 24th ulti and have given to it mach ceneideration. i I cannot say that it nas auerea myi sense pi tne course 1 mjjsti pursue : At tne same, time l owe you my thanks for the" sin cere kindness which marks the ' whole commnnica tion, and which would sooner disarm. my resolmions wan any rematna pi a omerent enaracter, J-lut tne r"! D7ffarf1,fL(,rmiiiiliiipij sentimo on Church government are such as disqaalify me1 for co-operating in. the promotion of your views in this Diocess. I am not enough pf a ; churchman to wbh to see the" Episcopal church grow, if tbse exclusive tenets are to be insisted-' on and ' jrocliirhed as the only orthodox sentiments of lhat churchi arid-of such fundamental importance that. we must i-bes constantly holding them forth to the interruption of peace among christians; On the subject of MismjyM bnly feary that I can most heartily pray to God tp deliever us from it J but in my humble opinion jh- very, venom of schism consists in the 'molestation of that' love which onght to prevail amonghrisf disciples J and that all the differences of judgment gJjm; the sever al denominations of christians do not produce as much real schism as the attempting to coerci men by harsh censures into unity of communion! -fThe essence 'of schism, I hold to be, in christians $ tiling and de vouring one another,", and this may Wdone as much among those of the same commamoa as if they were divided into two or three. cWi Indeed I doubt whether you will .not admit .that there is less kindly feeling between the high and low church clergy of the Episcopal church .both. in this country and England, than between them and dis senters inasmuch as civil wars are always the most fierce and implacable-even Popery itself 'with all its boasted unity has not been able to prevent, the most bitter animositiesamong its members. It real ly seems to me sir,that ' where christians agree in vnose main principles on which depends holiness of heart and life, they ought not to quarrel with one another about other things nd X beg you iof medi- uuBKuuiuiriw iu6 ifurauun, wueuer tne uiviue head of the cbnrch may not in pitnishment ior our anery, dissensions among ourselves, rive Tthe socin- ians an an vantage over us ana scourge US Dy ineit success. Church union I am convinced is not eoin? to be the-fiaus of love, butwill he the blessed effect of love when christians are more purified, by". faith tnan tney now arei it appears to me " that -church principles as you hold thert must' draw: one .into- a closer fraternity with the Greek and Romish church es than with our .Protestant brethren. Yotf considet it as certain that my present opinions ara the conse quence of my,having scales on my eyes. , If so; it is at least a mitigation of my disgrace to have such men as Archbishop Wake, BorHoDkiris. u and; manv Other Episcopalians ia company with me. " But itnf impossible to do any justice to these . topics in the compass of a letter." Nor would. a voluminous "corv respondence promise much, when th rtrrmprnii nrin. ted yolumes to which ave have, access fail to.prr duce conviction, t . -r..'" . , i ; I Will therefore pass da lo some questions 'put 'to me iri the Conclusion of your' letter You ask i if the late unpleasant occurrences in my , Congregation have not had a bearing on ;my determination l" 1 1 can without hesitation say, no. Had they'not taken placemrresolution would have beeh the same4 Tne .tor. r irv in that instance was bo clearly pennteu out by dutyy that I feel self-apprbbalion in .reflecting on it, and if any effect has been produced on the pub lic mind ifis in favor of the church and Of -my repu tation. Nor could I wish or ever nope to peBiuiaieu among a people to wnom my scrriw nvuw ftccVbtab e So' tia I can 'assure y 6u jmkw does not influence me, for I have no prospeots else where as good. But to another question, whether there is not some ,difBculty (of longer standing T I frankly answer in the nttrjnvel ; JhatI have often mentionea io you. certain - rinciu"j " .rr, tismal and Confirmation services have long weighed on my mind. But being averse to "change and to produce anv disturbance I have hitherto struggled with my difficulties. Now however,' since every EDisebnalian in the-Diocess 'must1 eiert'Jiimself- for the propagation of exclusive and .intolerant-principles, jus time for. those who are not' cordial friends nf iriA rtrin.?n1i in ici v whether thev are ready to along with them and whether they think them ofl such vital importance as to -warrant ue;eiwicuwi.. of that sectarian heat and uncbaritablenesa which they Win itokM mmmm UjYoo ask, "whether I am prepared to say. that ;my ordination vows were taken upon A me without dae consideration I'V rl cerUinly was ordained more has- tnTr thah 1 should have been, had it been left to my own choice, but I was urged to it a year sooner than I intendedand beiore l fiau Teaa suincienny v lwc point in dispute,' between the Episcopal church 'and others And when I was questioned about my views on the subject, of Episcopacy, I answered that I knew nOining UDOUI ll nu II lUC CauiiuauoM ui vvm as strict as such examinations ought, to' be,' -'they, would have advised me to delay. ? The, truth is, I never did consiJer church gpvernmenta matter on which" Scripture was clear and imperativeand had I of the stand I should be obliged to take Against other denominations that : itself would iave Dccn an pojecuon mil w. w " u; lAsnltnrv'and wantinar ihf arrangement : tot it would be useless to enter into a regular discussion of the subject before us, , ,: : m . After receiving your letter, I made it the subject of much reflection and prayer for divine-direction but I cannot see any other course or me. to ; pursue, than the one before stated to you,, .You say 4tbat part of mv letter indicates decision ana tne omer part, a mind undecided; "My indecision however, is rdm invDresent cause of disaffection. On that subject my mind i. fully made ufj. iun op- posed to high church principles from conviction:' I have read more extensively since my oruiiiuwu,.auu I am fully satisfied that Ixan never enieriain mem, nor wish to see them Drodaeated.' Whether tKe sen- ti'mont vnii havp nroclaimed as to be insisted-Orii are necessarily the doctrines of the church, or pecJiarljH; yours, I shall not deciae at any rate many, consci entious Episcopalians, even of Lngland have opposed them. " v ''' " : : 7 'T !v . But the Episcopal church in this country, I tind from the sentiments of the Bishops, is to take the rhigh jure divino ground of that order of Divines, on England ; and it so, i, never was juwuubu iw uuo v. its ministers. '. Hdow all these things ought to have been well wefAed lefore I was ordained, but I le many other young men,' did riot measnre . every atep carefullv and had no person to caution me aoout difficulties. For although you think Dr. "Caldwell and his associates at Chapel Hill so proselyting in their spirit, yet believe me neitner ne nor tney saiu a. word to dissuade me when I announced my disposi tion to become a candidate' for orders in the Episco pal church. They stated no difficulties, mentioned no objections. And although my stepfather was sor ry 1 believe tnat l gave tnat cnurcn tne preierence, the "others were rather gratified than otherwise;; as they( thought it would be an advantage tor the insti tution. I sent in my , resignation to the vesfry a week ago but they have not acted on it.'si t repeat mv sincere thanks for the kind expressions and true friendship vhich your letter breathes.-; I know- you i - . t - -. t 1 1 i . . . v. ' . r t are aevoiea wiin an your neari 10 me prumuuou tne Kedeemers kingdom ; (would that' 1 had naif yom ardour .nd -devotedness ana - tnat, you are strenuous on the points between us, because you be lieve them essentially connected with' that cause. But' my dear sir, I do believe that while preaching inegranaaoctrinespi.pracucai religion with your characteristic energy, you at the same time urge con troverted pointsof church communion with eaual ener gy; you considerably dilapidate withIyourr 'hand that spiritual bniiding which your right hand is so zealously rearing, while your Vtg?(f hand knowelh not what your left hand docth:p "Eicuse I pray- you these remarks- I may be wrong-rmayf God. forgive and rectify me if. I am. t . . . , ,- . ,r; t ' 1 o part with an attached pongrcp;aUon is grievous, lo otlend you arid my brethren Is no less' so. But to n.ct iu. oposhion to conscierice rhnd feeling would De worse.-. t, ( . . . . , z t v yerv resnectfnllv fcc'.1"" 1 ...... i,i J. : V: v , ;': . . . u 1. . - Fortttf wcoraer.. j.. f DXAK BROTHiR ToflET t ' ' t'v, S' ' Please give me Vour views on a small portion--of the eighth chapter of the Epistle of , the Apostle Paul to the church at Rome, commencing at the 19th verse of that chapter: " For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of Go ? 20! For the datura m mit subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same In hope, r ?ir Becausethe . creat ure itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of CJod. 22 For we know that the whole creation rroaneth,"and travaileth in pain together until now. 23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which, haye the first fruits of the Spirit, eyenwe ourselves eroan within ourselves, waiting for theadoption, to witthe redemption f. onr body VDS - Dear brotberyitt so doing, you will confer a favor on your - pbedient 'servant, or Jnof pur; beloved brethren 'who feel wilJingUo iastrnct, the weak;! would fee! thankful to havetheir viewS on the above versea-feyonrs ifl -the Jbdnds'of ; christian toccJj Kf 1 JQVIBEa AFTER A.VY Ut.uu. i --jrt-. Rom. 8: 19. Jiloomneia, a atstmguisnea -juigiisn commentator, has the . following remarks upoh the "There1 is perhaps, no passage of the Apostle more difficult than the present, or ba which the opinions of i ne sense uepenas W.-Howk::! Southern Literary1 Messenger. J C J The Jantrary number of this able Monthly has been tjAt v-strety oF iitereisiig "We copy its table of con t t received .'It contains tli u and useful reading matter. tCtltS. ' : 1. Hi.-tory qf Richmond. 2. A Pair of Poets. 3. Cupid's Sports. 4. Story of Good Mr. Bear,, ' 5. The Revenge. ' . :i,0. Plnoe-de la Concorde; -ri :Vii !i 5 7. Scenes Beyond the-iVVestern Border. S. Glimpses of the Route from Alexandria to Blue Rrule.-?-- J v lrrT A-i li ivi oun t Vt-rnon the 'il9, LCMi from PTdw Tort. Also severnl-pieces'of original poetryi and notice oi new: puoueations." -.r s : i i -it. Litteli's XiTinr Affc.1 Nos. 401 and 402 of this valuable work' havebeen received OtteU nbbly u;hiVowu: Weekly : fie givea u tbo :eTearh of the foreign -erlodicaIs; Six dollars' paid; tq him, wilL'purcHasa Jnibrmation. which obtained else wheroR would cost tens f f not? hundreds of dollan. . f . . ? ' . - ' . . , t i. Godet's Last's Book. Th February number o this much admired Mugabe ncrw ties on'our table. Oodey is constantly contriving surprises "for his lead ers. . t his month he has: tri ven thm n -Ka n I ?e W entirely new, style n imitation of the far. famed French colored crayon drawing.. Our Publish' er still continues his offer to send the Lady's Book and the Recorder for me year," to any ' bnV who Viu for wafdjto him four doUars.i: 1 ' ' u '7C,i ' J " 'ic-c c "?t 'New Papers. ffsri t V; 1 We have receivedroni' th'e tFohiishef a--' convl of Thje Live Giraffe, a new paper just started in this city. Lovers 6f 4he,umcrotti jvill he pleasedwith the, Giraffe.' .The appearance of the sheet is exceed ingly neat. unsuitable to. -the, plain .and di- 9 :J if,'. For the RftFA.. tBroim may n;;av taay:f -your readers, ebony t ' Baptist church pi this place- has ' .V tm. Person maniested ccfJI'i some 1 professed pardon throngh uu.1 Redeemer, of whom I baptized six. - With my advice, andin'perfertr1! my wishes and hearty co-ODeratinn 1 ..i ienaetj a au io oroiner Aaron, Joijes to v, whir.K' fins fen Uniti r.y..t n w te? J, t I with u& and Will enter nnoh r , 10 l-o-cl5k Jo-morrow, the 25$ 'j?M lie requestshis correspondents ., thi3 place in fatureV&A.!W- t fe--?'? Yours in christian JovW i. IP. -..hi commentators are more various. much upon the'-meaning assigned "to SrrYrtj (tf&nslated creation.) ', On which and the general import of the passage, there are ihree vieivi which chiefly tiaerit at tendon5 ;k. Sa-n : l.,That of the ancient and many eminent modem Interpreters who take xrCgif io -mean the whole visible creation, which bv -a metonvmic allegory proso- popaia i common uoui m me stniuuicii umj cidssicai writers is represeniea. as uoing w uai is .ajMicaun; only' to man, i.'e4" anxiously expecting and hoping. groaning kni mourning ' Over the prevalence 1 6fu slrt and misery, and looking with ' anxious expectation for some 'deliverance ; namely, such a rejiotMition a.s the Jew especially supposed would take place in the age of the Messiah, ; lo some this view has appear ed .in .its sublimity; dactive style, of the Apostle.-, , Some, take xtins of a pfiysfcql hut t moral crea tion", understahding by it the Christian .church, cou' verted from Judaism br Heathenism . . This, howev er, is liable to insuperable objections, Hence a third interpretation has been struck and adopted by 'sdrne wmcn steers a mime course netween tne two ior mer, andt it may be thought in media tutissimus ibus. By this, xiifif is supposed to mean '-oil intelligent arid sentient creatures-ixt whole creation capable of feeling the passkmsr above.; adverted toi,- t&.At- man race . of whom the , Gentiles formed ; the great balk. YettWlsno , necessity lo abanaon tke cient ana- commonly 1 received, interpretation, .espe- dally as it may incfafc, the last( meationed, for fi and 3tasa seftss may very well be rendered "the world," "the whole- world.' - ? SoJ"aspis says, " Fingit Paulus universum- muii- aurn vciu,t unam personam, cui sensura tnbuit, ut in Psalmis perpetui." Hence, both the tropical and the proper sense may have place in this sense the latter of. coarse being; the principal onei1 v- ft.... aL'i . " i i r i fus we sense win De,' a v. ,rii . " For the world (i. eJ God's creatures') , was made subject to4mperfection, corruption and misefy; (not by anywili of its Own, i. e. not as a punishment for a7 Jo)untory te but by Him who thus snbjecteMtt)yet with' a hope (on thir part) that this yery creation '(i. e. these his crea tures). Will be delivered from the bondage Of corrup tion and admitted to the ofibui liberty whicn per tains to the children of God." - s , ; i In regard to the 21 'verse,' Bloomfield gives T this as the; sense s ," Aiid not only? hav'e'ffobk e. Jthe world at large, almqstemirely heatheris) this feeling but, eyen we Christians, waiting for, our adoption, namely, the deliverance of our .body from mortalil v and corruption. The eeneral sense "of the nnskao-p is thus expressed ty. " Now that such a glory is j et to be reveaTed, (Tn other wordsfthat.there is a world of' PUfpassihslo- " 1 l.L "... . ... .PO ! ue grave) tne whole; condition iof itliinffs, or rather of mankjnd.m the present world, abun dantly proves! Here a frail and perishable nature serves to show no stable eotttCe of happiness can he feuhd on earth. ; iFrpra -the; cpmmenrjemenf ofifbe world to the present time, it has always been .thrt?. Iiii the midst of the sufferings and sorrows to which their eartbly existenceeiposes them,' mankind 'natu. pi fefJt ' 'P SSpW. where pSppineSS Wlthonl alloy1 and .wltloul eml may be en- joyed. -i;Even Christians- themselves' j'oyf at" as'their hope phould make them, find, thetnselveft still com pelled by. su&ringsand, sorrows to (sigh.and groan; and'to expect a "state of real and permanent Enjoyment only in heaven;5 so that they 'can only say, for the present, that- they are saved, because tbey Hope or expect salvation in another and better worlds The very ;fact," that here thej like all others around Iwmj are iff a'State of trial " nd that they only hope B'mfHiitto pWWoa of il M expected." , . : . r. : aJ rn l rFof the Recorded c1iJi; 'if Brother ITobev : To- refresh rtho - memory of tba brethren will you publish -aiin the i: fol lowing appointments for me.- tiftss n &. f y w Friendship-i-Saturday and: Sunday,' Feb. 7 and 8:-; Fayetteville Monday and Tuesday, Feb. V nnd 10l Spring Branch Thursday, Feb. 12. . I - f . . Smitheld Saturday and Sunday, Feb. 1 4" an3 15'' HepibahTueaday.Feb.lT..:; . : RolesvilIeWednesdayFeb. 18. , , . Waker Koads-iThursday, tjtbl 19. ' '' lc . New HorjSatUrtiayj FeD.'ST.'' .'.-.'v RaleighSunday, Feb. 22. ' " , t r Mount. VernOn TnoanW Vu' o ' " WakeForest-Thursday, Feb:' 26.' 1 't;4-J ' U0I:havejinade!'an appointment for ftotvnT Wednesday the 18th "which was not in the for mer list or appointments, For the Recorder :y. ? Union Meetiiip-f r-The first Bection of thJ RaieLAET wDl commence on Friday before the mS - earnest! v boned that all the"chnkV:jVl s ty section will send up their deierat' ness of touch importance! will come tn'l sion. The following u a query fc.h Union and laid Over to the next for - tt " Should churches hold conferences opjj Drsi;Ptmnn4&sli ia the iisciMwpTfer. far discussion.! Sk' ijThq Introduotpry moriiwni KMfL ReTj J: B.Jackson; and the Mionaj J January 3Cth, 1So2. Foribe Recofde'r; -From Wake BetiieV J Dear Bbethbew t - .- ,t.--'Your Committee appointed to "dra? test against a resolution, adopted by . V, number of the members of the last RakiA sociation; when most of the delegateVofi sociation had left for their hbmesj' relatiwb appointment- 6rf Com mitt ee to examine thfl rnnftfn'?rtiiTiIiH W. IU0 icyui 13 ClI UuldllDg again&l the Rev r, t)ffvd,' beg leave to veporfc the following : believe Hhairduly:6Mnizl,e Qhrt, having its proper officers, is tfie Kl V i r: i ..;!. It : . f . . . cuciuisidsuuiii tnuuuai qu cartD, iroufhos tiowu luci s w. iiv ij.pcai.- ji "King tDISTHl the subject, yonr Committee is'of opmica, i too ucb power has Tmjcd assumed by tbH tain few, who " introduced "and "passed fie resolutions and that m m rfninff tUi. manifested -a ' disposition - to interfere vi4 J infringo upon the inalienable, and: coakitiK rights bf the churchestfe We are also of tberfL ion that they Lave introduced a mtkM AssociatuiD. . whieh; if adopted and pasfc4 1 endangerthe liberties which the Baptist M has s t always - claimed.-? And fnrtherfflori r Com mitfee is of opihionlhata i esolrjuon ai jectionable in all of its bearings' is ho ilas be found on thd historical: pages of our Km tiuniiWa therefore enter 'ionrprott ipii the said resolution.I M WhU mts Signed jbyorderf,pf the .church iaGffli&aef aturday, before 4he fourtbSabbatb in Jjst 1852., ; , 3f ,,,,, A . i . We have also received a newn Jssue,ef Taa-Ri- UIG9 Times. VVe wish its Editor and Publisher much success. v . , From Wadesborougn, "we'ha've'received a c6nV of fThe N obth Carolt A Af A kocs." The"-" PubKshers-5 of Uri paper have engaged as its liditqri1 John YV. Cam- nolfrsq., S u J) irv (i v:i!l l-twy. uThecCHaisTi4K ScctSTsnT and' the MicaicAS CHailfiiK Hiraxd come to uagreaUy Enlarged; and improved in appearance-.-.i : w.i o -y, ? T.H? .Bapjwtp Pas A-CHEaof Janudry h beer - re ceived... Its contents art, I ,4 . - V Occasions oflarnchtation in.the death of a Minister. i'- . twt.'t.'U'? ""?? i .' - '' "' '; wf u r( a y m The expenses of Kossrmr and his suite at Brown's Hotel,; in WashinOhi amonnted it ik nti fAAA a day, .which Congress, will, have to foot. It is thought that the Magyar's, visit to the United States nct. W haiii. ! -a .it i 1 ""j . w vvuuuy U UlllllUU TJI UOUarS. - w w uu ggs UU, XU UllS U)Q "lHYOT Will the brethren of make' if generally known f, 'w r . ' weatherhag : "operated ifeyuch' agamst tny congregations ; but thoseWhO3 did turn out have contributed chWfyf6ftereoi tion xt Brother Yates honso r fivm u t-Chapel-Milfthe-PresD kindly offered mbitiufo hi'eUiei last Sabbath nighttoVcd out nj soliciUtion bn- my'part, thev then took trp-a hberal coUectibri fOT3me? liB jngondayftam 6f Dr. ; Mitchell andXJovernor Swain, ! Vemained and lefetaVetragain; Monday 'mht toriollhoiiye' i , " wcreauoui closing, Tine oia vovern or arose tnd wanted us to takeiip anolheFcoilection-j'but I ihought if nottbest as they hM contributed so liberally, the nkht before.? - Mir. C. Phiriios then Pgg61 hat if any persons, wha were :not pres- fcujuc.i Aiiufcueiurej.uesireu ia conmputo any thing, theypould. band it in after the ttneetin closed; Seveadollari;inore wero then handed in) twutvcu at vuapct ttuu viciaiiy aDOUl DJty five ollare. c&it'txi-civ e. .If I(caq get tho brethren, out to hear .-me I do not, doubt but . thatr the'.desired amount can be raised. "7 " " Yours truly," - V ' B? CXbVkiss, Agent s Mi BSJ tf. rB i --January 29th,1852. -S - Vl ,5 ; si? Si 'Tt 4 ' For-the Recorder. " In the Recorder of : t& 20th; f IacBrta writeriovcr.thagigriatarj "t)f More V$& cdL for' iinFoTTnation;resrectinsr the eomtaffliisi tion of Broad River &c. &eo ba,1 ?The Board f the Yadtin- Home iTwm S6ciety(with nil kindness towards Messrs. Light and Broad itiyer,and with an cjie? to the success -.of the , MiseionarT cause) law a dssire-.to withhold jk. good., from.. them; wkm 11 13 flae. 1 .Wto.lflM3.mai Gil 1 causei wheri he has donethem jio harm W all. occasions to , nse that moral.ene reflect licht to all around i and asligHid to be the rlesir ot the at ove;( writer j.Mi n Yadkin A ssociation , bavins the most; suoj tial, and far jeeipg; minister of : WesterBiVj plina. spendlngiJiis . whole time atchurfl 1 good standing, who have .regular supplies-. i fhe.r Board of F H !. S; component p said churchas; are fully prepared, to answJ enquiry Tf laiiyptq our, Alissiprjary ppcua 1 whole time at churches, who have regular ropp &e. i With rliiA rfsnprt tn bro. B, R- T8 H visa binr for Uift riitnrff not to call 0U the iH Associatn 4oproye ,tbe mismanagement Board of B. S. Convention of JN. u., testify amnst:htetortteirrVse3ing:Mr anr -tmnnKorl fhvaa JcTifnt nnnrcbcS, tB arm .with . reaching, also some destitute w 1 borhoods, and from the last of J uIy4to "e r 1 yctoterjimholcling .prptractea::ine3u5- Constitutionf theil'at i:adjurf of it Plnarr? ,r.1 lVin on his field Of UD? pporroorlJght What t.hi mn ? I What. 13 hlS.&eld.- This, field of- labor is at the destitute v J'?.tl 1 . . 5 ? At- T.nnnr7a nf tflC auu . umsnuornooaa m iub, uuu,-r .. . . ...... . . .- . jii w Association! Uboringdertheirec-: above Board, and, paid $25 per menw, Treasurer. ;Yu. can. judge whether. . .:..?. . .i ' 1.- TtacmrS t . sionary emDarrasses.tne,: re'jui!. ;- - if so they bad better tresignt . 6 - ' ' , By xeuest behalf tta tH JT sis: 4 1 on. ijThe shock i;cf an.carthquatijwa 24tnaltt'The'tobet ubstandatvfWl!-! diuuuu t ere causeu ju- tu, - ;nnd,'j toll i Nnm nnnuaworn tnTOHiiw o. inhabitants were much alarmea tant thu nder ' was heard ' for some shock was felt, tZzy ' ;. "s: i-.C--- tnni,;, s ' . V.J. Lean remorse, ti'P ;n h " i . 1 tLca dla-cJ t my nativity- rv
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